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119 responses to “Sandbox – 5feb15”
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We have all heard the Lefty rant that ” FOX news LIES!!!”,, yet nothing to back up that claim.
Well the proof is out there (all over the place) that NBC sure does. Just add the latest
“fib” to NBC’s list of “not really the way it happened”. From exploding pickup truck gas tanks, to doctored 911 tapes. Now Brian Williams eats crow.LikeLike
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And how about Hillary Clinton claiming to be shot at as she landed in Iraq! These libs are so bereft of heroism they have to steal it from others or lie that it happened.
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Scott Pelley, CBS News, lost all my confidence when he claimed to be in Antarctica to demonstrate global warming, when he was 2,000 miles North of the South Pole on an island off the coast of Antarctica. The BBC pulled the same trick, using a Canadian research ship. Antarctica is not warming, regardless of the CBS and BBC lies.
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I think the Hillary story was Bosnia. She claimed that she and Chelsea had to run for cover when exiting the plane. Video showed that to be a complete lie. She later claimed it was just a mistake. She has never been shot at – she just made it up. This was the woman that was fired by fellow Dems for ‘unethical behavior’. When lawyers fire one of their own for that, you can believe the reality is that she is just plain immoral.
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Fox news successfully appealed whistle blowing charges against it by arguing that FCC policy against falsification was not a “law, rule, or regulation”. I’m not trusting of anyone’s reporting of “news”. They all lie, distort, and fabricate and Fox proved in court that it is legal to do so. Brian Williams’ lie was so blatant and outrageous that it might be excused as a fairy tale rather than a serious attempt to deceive. The fact that he still has a job speaks volumes.
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Poor Joe,, Remember “Rathergate”? “If there IS no evidence,, we will fabricate it for you”.
And just how old is that cut and paste job?
You find one burp, yet NBC has a long history of made up stories.
Now go and find another straw to grasp.LikeLike
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Seems “O” has been talking to Paul and Ben.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/05/the-future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-christians-by-harping-on-the-crusades/LikeLike
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It’s noble cause corruption… they think they know for a fact the underlying truth they believe in, and so the little white lies are just production shortcuts to get the truth out. I’d bet that Rather, to this day, believes there is documentation somewhere that says the same thing as the forgery he fell for. There may be, and somewhere, pigs may be flying.
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OK, dope smokers,, another reason to stash your stash in “high” places.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/animals/pig-eats-owners-pot-879041
Hummm. Since there is a glut of dope in these here hills, I wonder what that bacon would taste like. Indica ham? Sativa chops? Nevada City might be able to capitalize on this.
“medicinal” sausage?LikeLike
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“Brian Williams’ lie was so blatant and outrageous that it might be excused as a fairy tale rather than a serious attempt to deceive”
Joe is just amazing – Williams stuck by that story for years. Of course he just made it up out of thin air and yes, he was trying to deceive.
Joe again repeats the line about Fox news being untruthful but has no examples. Funny that no one seems to have any.
Everyone should always filter everything they hear and read through a process of:
1 Common sense – is what is being reported even possible?
2 Double check with other sources.
3 Is there a contrary story or another side of the story with facts.
4 If a speech or article is quoted, try to read the full text.
5 Is audio or video available?
By following the above as much as possible I’ve found all sorts of stories to be either false or completely twisted from the truth.
As always – the biggest frauds are the left wing publications. Mainly by not reporting or even mentioning big news stories that are embarrassing to the Dems.
No wonder the Dems want more govt control over the internet. Too much of the wrong kind of info goes out to the people.LikeLike
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Walt 05Feb15 at 03:04 PM
The article you reference, Walt, begins thus:
After his pet pig ate all of his marijuana, a furious Ohio man went on a drinking binge that resulted in his bust Saturday for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, police report.
It is unlikely that this person’s conduct would have been sufficiently disorderly to lead to the arrest he resisted if he had smoked marijuana rather than drinking alcohol. Similarly, I have never heard of anybody who got so stoned that he started a fight.
Alcohol is an ugly drug (Yes, it is a drug!) that often brings out the worst of its users and marijuana tends to mellow its users yet drinking is legal while mere possession of marijuana can lead to imprisonment. Nobody capable of rational thought should find this appropriate, right, or just.LikeLike
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Scott Obermuller 05Feb15 at 03:24 PM
Joe again repeats the line about Fox news being untruthful but has no examples. Funny that no one seems to have any.
There are plenty of examples, Scott. One that seems fair and doesn’t pick only on Fox News is the Tampa Bay Times’ “PunditFact”. Check it out here. Note that the TV tab leads to television’s “Big 5” outlets but the Radio tab only to conservative programs. Oh, that’s right! The liberals have proven that they cannot maintain radio audiences!LikeLike
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Candy cap-
Google the principle parts of my first sentence and it will take you to the court case (yes, Fox was sued by whistleblowing employees for lying). Fox didn’t deny lying, they won on the technicality that it wasn’t illegal to lie.LikeLike
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Didn’t read the whole story there Kesti? His Mamma said he gets REAL upset when he doesn’t have his MJ.. ( the pig ate it) That’s when he went for the Everclear.
Hummm. someone has an addiction issue.( among other problems)LikeLike
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So,, what was the “lie”???
And that ALL ya’ got? After all this time, it’s LIB news that can’t keep the lights on.
About one person in each town tunes into Lefty news based on ratings.
CNN and MSNBC are in a battle for cesspool status.
Yaa dude, bash FOX all you like. They have all the Conservatives and most of the Dems that actually care.
No go tune in Sharpton. he needs every viewer.LikeLike
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joe smith 05Feb15 at 04:45 PM
Fox didn’t deny lying, they won on the technicality that it wasn’t illegal to lie.
That’s no technicality, Joe. It’s inherent in free speech and freedom of the press. Besides, if it were illegal for a news outlet to lie the courts would be overrun with cases that result when just about anybody disagrees with reported stories.
The rights of a truly free society always include negative consequences. This is one reason why one must reside in a “home of the brave” in order to live in “the land of the free.” Another reason is that one must allow others’ freedom in order to be oneself free.LikeLike
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Walt 05Feb15 at 04:56 PM
Wrong again, Walt. I read the entire story. This person’s problems change nothing concerning what I wrote.
If getting “REAL upset when he doesn’t have his MJ” is reason to criminalize then alcohol should be criminalized, too, for there are many people with alcohol addiction issues who get REAL upset when they don’t have their drink!
Please try again, Walt, but do try to present logical and rational arguments, if you can.LikeLike
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OH…. So the dope would have kept him out of jail, and being a menus to society.
Great logic. Nope,, not good press for weed users. ( look what happens when they “lose it”.)
Did you send him a note to acquire that pig? Just trade him some weed for it. Porky HAS to go. ( no second chances there. Eat my weed, and your done.)
BTW.. Ya’ got a Labrador? I hear they like to eat weed stashs too.
The morel of the story is,,, Don’t leave your weed where it can be eat’n by critters.
You might fly off the handle and go to jail. ( Or let your Mamma keep an emergency bag “just in case”…)LikeLike
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Michael 04:45.
Unfortunately, it is a technicality. There is no first amendment protection when broadcasting under FCC regulations. Try showing full frontal sex scene on NBC or saying fuck during FOX news at 6:00pm. Worse yet, allow a nipple slip at half time. When the internet becomes a utility under federal guidelines, I can only wonder when the censorship begins.LikeLike
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“There is no first amendment protection when broadcasting under FCC regulations”
Court decision? FCC ruling? Are you saying this is a rule or a law or are you being sarcastic?
Joe still can’t come up with a Fox news lie. I checked out the Punditfact website and the Fox items I found were quotes from the CBO or guests claiming things that might not be correct.
Didn’t find any examples of Fox news deliberating making something up to deceive people.LikeLike
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I think Mr. Smith is incorrect. The airwaves are where the protections seem to be the greatest.
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It is interesting that the feds have been considering detailed content control( review is likely in full effect now) before they grab the throat of internet freedom. Then failing to follow the party line will be hate speech. A pox on pc. Sounds like france. Given recent events and 0’s prayer breakfast talk it feels like france or iran are setting policy. We don’t want to bomb too much or give too many weapons, it will make things worse in Ukraine and the middle east. The current average of 7 air sorties a day right now is less than we used to have over football games on any sunday for decades before 0. It takes hundreds and hundreds of sustained sorties a day to actually degrade such a dispersed force. How about selling some A-10’s to our friends to engage in offensive tac air as it is meant to be?
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Hmmm-
My last post got deleted in under 20 minutes. It appears GR is all about free speech unless he deems otherwise.
We’ll try again.
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/obscenity-indecency-and-profanity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_AkreLikeLike
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Yup, those pesky FCC puritanical regulations. Now there is a can of worms.
They apply here,, but not over there. Actually,, the cable Co.s (like Comcast) play by their own rules and the FCC have minimal say. That includes what commercials are run.
Hell. Comcast still refuses to give The Blaze ( Glenn Beck’s baby) a slot.
LIBS love that kind of control. Anything to keep another Conservative news and programming network from reaching the masses, the better. No point in crying foul to the FCC,, that also LIB land.LikeLike
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Walt, about 55 minutes ago.
Speaking of Lib Land
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/msnbc-tv-media-ratings/2015/02/04/id/622810/
This guy has the President’s ear. People are currently in prison for owing less.
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-morris/reverend-al-sharpton-bustedLikeLike
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Yup,, saw that about Rev. Shakedown. With “O” and Holder around no dirty LIB goes to jail.
” his people” ya’ know.LikeLike
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joes 743pm – That was not me who deleted your 647pm, but TypePad’s algo that apparently thinks that naked URLs posted as comments are spam. Try to add a little editorial content if possible. And cut the snark about my treatment of free speech. There is no blog that has the march on RR when it comes to free speech.
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Walt 05Feb15 at 07:48 PM
You frequently decry liberals and their policies, Walt, but you so often express liberal opinions. Here is yet another example. You complain that Comcast will not carry The Blaze and that there is no point in bringing the issue to the FCC.
Why shouldn’t Comcast be free to decide which networks they carry? And if they are to not be allowed to make those decisions then who will? You seem to be suggesting that it should be the government that decides.
Is this, as are your opinions concerning drugs, another example of your duplicity?LikeLike
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Joe needs to read the articles he posts links to. The Wiki article contains only an accusation by 2 people that got huffy about Fox not letting them run their story. There is no proof presented of any kind that Fox ran misleading stories. Why not post a link to the actual story that the Fox affiliate ran and then post links to a reasoned rebuttal.
And I’m not concerned about the FCC trying to censor obscenity. Free speech is about the freedom to hold and express opinions about the govt and our leaders. I realize content control by the govt is a slippery slope, but the looming control of the internet by the feds is all I worry about.
The FCC controls objectionable images and language largely to the favor of the broadcast corps. Without their controls a large number of viewers would be ex-viewers and the ad revenues would decline.
Bottom line is that if you want to hate Monsanto, there are plenty of ways to get your story out there without govt or Fox interference.LikeLike
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There is a documentary video called “Outfoxed” by Brave New Films that documents numerous Fox news lies, distortions, exaggerations, and memos from Roger Ailes telling reporters what spin they will use on stories, and what stories Fox will and won’t cover. The information comes from former and current (disguised to protect their jobs) employees. The suggestion that Fox is clean and other networks are crooked liars is absurd. They are all conglomerate owned and produce “news” to the satisfaction of their owners; conservative white billionaires. Fox is just the worst of the bunch.
http://www.bravenewfilms.org/outfoxed
http://www.alternet.org/media/outfoxed-film-exposing-fox-news-right-wing-propagandists-rereleased-new-sectionLikeLike
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Posted by: Joe Koyote | 06 February 2015 at 09:03 AM
It would seem that your “side” lost Joe, might as well just get used to it.LikeLike
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JoeK, your link is to a FOX hater. It bears no reality. You are simply a misguided troll here. Try harder and maybe next time your ilk will pick up a couple of Congressional seats. LOL!
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fish — I have no idea what on earth you are talking about. Just what is “my side” anyway? Your comment is as stupid as Todd’s, no relevance what-so-ever.
Once again Todd attacks the messengers because that is the only response he can come up with. The relevance of congressional seats to a conversation about Fox news is zero, much like Todd himself, an irrelevant babbler with nothing much of substance to say about anything other than name calling.
Have any of you ever seen the documentary.. probably not.. the truth is not part of your reality just as it is not part of Fox’s reality. You simply want to believe what they say because they tell you what you want to hear. They call it segmented marketing (appealing to disgruntled old white males), I call it right-wing propaganda. But that is OK, it would be too mentally disturbing for some of you to confront the truth anyway. You don’t want to know the truth, all you want to know is that your beliefs are valid and Fox gives you that.LikeLike
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JoeK, you are not a real person so how can I attack you? You are a troll. Anyway, your link is a bogus liberals opinion not a “fair and balanced” one on FOX. You libs are too funny!
Oh, and I am a relevant babbler, so get that right. LOL!
What is your real name JoeK. Come on, you can do it. Stand up and be a real man/woman!LikeLike
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fish — I have no idea what on earth you are talking about. Just what is “my side” anyway? Your comment is as stupid as Todd’s, no relevance what-so-ever.
Yeah….I know….no relevance whatsoever!
Just what is “my side” anyway?
Your “side” would be, and correct me if I’m wrong, leftist populism! How’s that working out for you?
Have any of you ever seen the documentary.. probably not.. the truth is not part of your reality just as it is not part of Fox’s reality.
I do so appreciate you leaving these little dollops of your preferred flavor of propaganda around and then whining when we simply aren’t interested.
JoKe….for the record….I don’t watch Fox news.
They call it segmented marketing (appealing to disgruntled old white males), I call it right-wing propaganda. But that is OK, it would be too mentally disturbing for some of you to confront the truth anyway. You don’t want to know the truth, all you want to know is that your beliefs are valid and Fox gives you that.
Correct me if I’m wrong JoKe but you aren’t in your “kicking it wit the people” years any longer. A bit long in the tooth as it were. And I’m pretty sure that you are white as well.
Welcome to that most hated of demographic Joe!LikeLike
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Poor Joe. Can’t come up with an example of Fox news making up a news story to deceive the viewers. But claims they are the worst. I never said they were perfect or didn’t make mistakes. And I’m sure they don’t breathlessly cover news events that are soooo important to the tin foil hat lefty crowd. Then he makes reference to disgruntled white males. That’s ageist and sexist, Joe. Naughty, naughty. Sounds like a micro aggression to me. I watch Fox business now and then. Hardly ever watch Fox news. My only ‘side’ is that folks get a chance to put out info without govt hindrance and that I get to choose what venues I want to receive info.
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GR 21:34-
Sorry for blaming you for deleting my post. I was unaware of the robo delete mechanism.LikeLike
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Here is some info with gov’t hindrance
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120967/wall-street-pays-bankers-work-government-and-wants-it-secret
Darn gov’t employees, their incompetence is overwhelming.LikeLike
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Come on JoeK, what is your real name? What a chicken.
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I see Joe Smith apologized for blaming others for his own weaknesses. Typical liberal.
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Well, everybody makes mistakes. Been thinking about Obama blowing kisses at Fidel and his brother Amos. If we we put out the welcome mat, do you really expect to be legally huffing on a fine Cuban cigar? Nope cause the good cigar makers saw what Communism has doing to them and their business and snuck out with the best seeds and expertise to the Dominican Republic. They use bat guano to fertilize. Not just any bat guano, but only guano from a specific bat that eats only a specific fruit. Fidel and his brother Amos are stuck with the floor sweeping from the socialist cigar plantations. They lost their craftsmen.
However, there is more Cuba has to offer than a few once primero cigars. Cuba brought us “One ton of metal, my Chevy is one ton of metal.” And the Cuban hombre wrote it in 1895. Amazing, ahead of his time. One Ton of Metal is a classic, like an old Chevy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1GTbqevebZoLikeLike
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Joe at 7:37 – Yes Joe, we know. We’ve been trying to explain this to you for quite a while.
“Darn gov’t employees, their incompetence is overwhelming.”
See – there’s a difference between hating govt over reach and incompetence and just hating govt.LikeLike
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How could it be anything but made worse……..
President Obama’s plan marks a monumental shift toward government control of the Internet. It gives the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works,” Pai said. “The plan explicitly opens the door to billions of dollars in new taxes on broadband… These new taxes will mean higher prices for consumers and more hidden fees that they have to pay.”
and in keeping with President Bunny’s “Mostest Transparentest Administration” eveh!
In a statement released Friday, Pai lamented the fact that the 332-page plan, which he tweeted a picture of himself holding next to a picture of Obama, won’t be released to the public until after the commission votes on its implementation later this month.
You’re right JoKe those government employees are pretty sharp…..and ethical too! We shouldn’t forget that.LikeLike
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We all have heard the diatribe from the Left about us “evil” Repubs.
Then we have “O” crapping all over Christianity.( and some Progressives right here who will remain nameless… But we know who you are..)
A little refresher of Lefty “dirty laundry”.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/07/people-committed-terrible-deeds-in-the-name-of-democrats/LikeLike
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WOW! I guess they’re right….women aren’t very good drivers!
http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/07/bruce-jenner-fatal-car-accident-pacific-coast-highway-malibu-photo-dead/LikeLike
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It was going to happen sooner or later Fish, now that many of his stories have been revisited, and are not holding water. When one ruins his own credibility, he will go find a rock to crawl under.
OH the field day some would have if Williams claimed to have personally viewed and authenticated “O”‘s birth certificate.LikeLike
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Hay Fish!,,, The buzzards are starting to circle. The smell of a dead career is stinking up NBC.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/couric-williams-exits-source-article-1.2106268
Hell,, her own gig there went tits up a while ago. ( her viewership tanked )
NBC would be REAL desperate to give her the job.LikeLike
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Put Katie in the mid morning time slot between reruns of Jeopardy and the soaps. Or, have her go head to head against Immus in the coveted 4am slot before you wake up and have your first cup of Java. I think Keith Obberman or Mr.Ed could step in the fill the void if Mr. Williams actually departs for more liberal greener pastures.
Rumor has it that MSMBC is dying…er….dying to break out into more World News. More news about international events and such, not just insider politics. They are going through another shakeup just as the dust has begin to settle after last year’s shakeup. Time is not on MSPMS’s side. Boy, they sure got arrogant after Obama won again in 2012. MSNBC’s future looked so bright and rosy at the time.
NBC coulld give Connie Chung another shot. Old evening newscasters don’t go too far so they are easy to find and rope back in the corral. Dan Rathet is always available if duty calls. So is Pierce Morgan. Maybe NBC can woo away one of FNN’s hot and extremely popular babes, but Fox’s foxes have character and standards and would not want to tarish their careers or reputations by sinking into the slime pit of the Big Three. They ain’t that desperate nor are they willing to sell out. Yep, Katie is willing and ready and never let incompetence stand in her way. Katie would fit like an old shoe on MSM shallow reporting. She can read a TelePromter fairly good.LikeLike
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