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26 January 2015

[Economic development season is rolling around again in Nevada County. What directions should it take and how do we do it in this small mountain county off the beaten path? Our ERC will kick things off this year with a confab on the topic this Thursday in the GV vets hall. They do welcome ideas, so sally forth! – gjr]

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113 responses to “Sandbox – 26jan15”

fish

29 January 2015

Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 January 2015 at 04:13 PM
Remember jeffy….”You are petty because the stakes are so small!”
…and as always LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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Michael R. Kesti

29 January 2015

JeffPelline 29Jan15 01:34 PM
If it was about who corrects mistakes then a polite reply on R.L. Crabbs’ blog would have been sufficient. This and the matter of who are philistines made it the disgustingly petty product of an astonishingly small man.

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RL Crabb

29 January 2015

Michael Kesti 4:46pm – Oh, I did find a sarcastic note in my spam this afternoon, but my filter keeps the trash at a minimum.

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JeffPelline

29 January 2015

St. Francis “Woods.” That’s just plain ignorant, not just a typo. Like Smartsville and Smartville to the “locals.” LOL.

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Don Bessee

29 January 2015

I think lefty jeffy would make a good campaign manager for Furth on his what 25th try? LOL

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JeffPelline

29 January 2015

Don,
I’ve voted for Republicans and Democrats over the years. And you?

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Todd Juvinall

29 January 2015

ROTFLMAO

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JeffPelline

29 January 2015

Todd,
And you?

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RL Crabb

29 January 2015

Funny, but the rant by David Talbot I posted on my blog about “San Francisco values” could easily be about people like Jeff. They move in with money and a diploma and throw their weight around. Only in JP’s case I guess he would be classified as a “Cal Asshole rather than a “Stanford Asshole.” http://48hillsonline.org/2015/01/26/dont-stanford-asshole/

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Bill Tozer

29 January 2015

Oh Jeffries, thank you for sharing. Splendid thought provoking comments you post per usual. To put the cherry on the banana split, may I add that lately you look marvelous, darling. Simply marvelous. Quite ravaging, you tiger you. Big kisses coming your way.
You are such a funny man! You have me laughing each time you do your hilarious comedic routine here. And with such manners I might add. Thank you again for sharing your invaluable insights and charisma. You rock. Keep coming back and don’t be any stranger, honey bunch.

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Don Bessee

29 January 2015

Crabman, the difference between the hate for the SF tech nerds and lefty jeffy is that at least the tech folks do something that matters. 😉

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Todd Juvinall

29 January 2015

Pelline 5:51PM,
Yes, in my life I have voted for all kinds of people represented by many parties. But since I voted for the Tom Bradley in 81 or so (for governor), I have decided that the closest people and party to my philosophy are the R’s. So, for your attempt at somehow thinking we would think you are a great guy because you voted for a R or whatever, have at it. You provide a constant belly laugh for me and others here as we know your positions and favortes from what you write. Anyway ROTFLMAO as usual when I read your ditties.

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JeffPelline

29 January 2015

The un-Beverly Hillbillies! BTW, David Talbot’s sister, Margaret, and I worked together on the Daily Cal while we were going to Cal. LOL.

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Bill Tozer

29 January 2015

Over In Saudi Arabia, the new King is issuing Royal Decress.
http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-king-announces-major-government-shake-royal-decrees-220346263.html
Not to be outdone, Obama is turning up the heat with his Royal Decress. A decree to make a decree.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dorian-de-wind/obama-issues-executive-or_b_6573644.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

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Don Bessee

29 January 2015

So is lefty jeffy telling us that his alums family were sick of him way back then?

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Bill Tozer

29 January 2015

Well, this is nothing new. Two sides of the same coin. This dude really speaks dear sweet Brother Ben’s lingo. Frankly, I can’t tell the difference between the hard left extremists and the Commies. Never have, never will In fact, there is no difference. Damn those private schools.
http://news.yahoo.com/communist-party-usa-chairman-vows-cooperation-democratic-party-141019868.html

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fish

29 January 2015

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 January 2015 at 07:00 PM
Really?? Nothing from Mr. Bachtell about proposals for the forced labor/re-education camps, punitive use of the psychiatric profession, and the collectivization of the kulaks….err…..small business owner class?
Some communist he is!

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Bill Tozer

29 January 2015

Yep, Fish, the pinkos today are not like the pinkos of just a generation ago. Sure, there are some exceptions like Cuba and The Santuary City by the Bay, but today’s commie bastards are cowardly hiding under the cloak of “progressivism” and for so strange reason have concentrated themselves on college campuses under the guise of being “tenured professors”. Hardly worth bombing the shit out of them or wiping what’s left of them from the edge of a good knife. Sad times, bro.

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Bill Tozer

29 January 2015

Ok boys and girls and Jeffries, time for a game! Can you name this tune?
Who said it?????????
1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
2) “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few…… And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity.”
A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
3) “(We)…..can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”
A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Josef Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own … in order to create this common ground.”
A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”
A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
6) “I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”
A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
Answers
(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005
Me so bad. Picking on a little old lady with memory lapses is unconscionable, even below my low standards of engagement. Me bad. And to think she once was a Goldwater Girl. Alas, that day ended never to return. Woe am I.

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Barry Pruett

29 January 2015

Great dinner tonight George and Russ. Great speakers re economic development. Talk to you guys later at the meeting. Thanks for sending me.

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JeffPelline

29 January 2015

Oh no the “shining white knight” who is going to save us! LOL.

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Bill Tozer

30 January 2015

“Shining white knight”. Oh Jeffries, you are cracking me up. Reading your comments is pure delight! More big kisses and hugs coming your way. I can’t stop laughing. You are a genius, pure genius. Again, don’t be any stranger here. Keep up the great work.

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Barry Pruett

30 January 2015

White Knight? I am just a very small piece in the economic puzzle, as we only have two employees. There is no White Knight that is going save anyone, and furthermore, we do not need saving. We need to work together as a community. Jim Firth is whining about the lack of internet connectivity. When is the last time he spoke to John Paul? They are on the cusp. Jeff Pelline is more interested in division rather than unity. Last night was truly amazing. The whole community seemed to be there simply evidencing a strong team with a vision. A speaker did comment on how this whole community seems to get along so well. The audience chuckled and someone at my table (whom I had never before met) mentioned the FUE. Apparently you have a reputation that precedes you. In stead of shouting nastiness from the cheap seats, you (and Firth) need to get with the program and build bridges as opposed to dive bombing them daily. If you cannot work with the people who grew up here, you should consider relocation or simply retreating to your lovely home eating chili fries and not bothering those trying to make our community better. In any event, the community on display last night was inspiring. Don’t soil that with your pettiness.

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Todd Juvinall

30 January 2015

Even though Firth is a lib shiner at last he tried to run for office. Pelline is unable to leave his own home and has to have the chili fries delivered. LOL!
The community has morphed over time into a service dominated/government employee dominated place. The same thing was happening many years ago in Lassen and Plumas and Sierra counties as the state and feds locked down the natural resources of their counties. Nevada County is now a predominate government employee county. City, county, schools, Ca;Trans, Forest Service etc. The fact we cannot seem to even get local government to allow the legal process to create a business such as the San Juan mine shows there are no longer any people in charge except the staff. I hope I am wrong but the inexorable move to tax eaters like all the “non-profits” and eco nut groups does not bode well for keeping the young people here. The Pelline’s of the community certainly drive away any potential employers as his nastiness turns them off.

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JeffPelline

30 January 2015

Barry,
I’m doing just fine. Honest. I’m worried about your temperament, though. BTW, instead of speaking to John Paul, I have had regular discussions with the CPUC — the ones that will approve the 1G contract. There have been some hiccups with that project, including opposition from a “WISP” provider that hasn’t been reported, but it will be approved. I expect it to get on the agenda in March. We run in different circles, to be sure, but I get around. LOL.

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fish

30 January 2015

HEY W. Kamau Bell…….how ya liking those SF values (I assume the Berkeley values are similar) now!
http://blog.sfgate.com/inberkeley/2015/01/29/comedian-w-kamau-bell-victim-of-textbook-racism-at-berkeley-cafe/
Frankly I’m shocked…….!

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Russ Steele

30 January 2015

Jeff@o7:50AM
Jeff, what is John Paul’s view on a third party, you, with no financial stake in the out come holding “discussions with the CPUC” on a very delicate negotiation. It seems to me this kind of meddling might have a negative impact on the out come. Thoughts?

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Jeff Pelline

30 January 2015

Russ,
“Meddling?” What an asinine remark. The CUPC is a public entity. The project is being funded with taxpayer dollars. I identified myself as a journalist/blogger and they answered my questions. It’s all about transparency with the CPUC, and that’s a good thing. In fact, they asked my opinion on the project too. I said I supported it. Good probing questions. We had a great conversation. We also talked about the days when I covered the CPUC for The Chronicle. If my conversation had a “negative impact” on the outcome of this project, then it wasn’t a very strong project to begin with. On the other hand, it’s enlightening because it shines a light on the great sense of entitlement and provincialism that exists in some segments of our community. Think of the glass as half full: Instead of blaming me if the project isn’t approved, how about crediting me if it is? LOL.

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George Rebane

30 January 2015

BarryP 944pm – Thanks for taking one for the team Barry 😉 we look forward to a more complete take on that occasion. I and other SESF board members will report on the ERC confab in a separate posting. SESF has worked on and off with the ERC for some years on approaches to and metrics for local economic development. SESF was a co-sponsor of yesterday’s conference. Readers should know that Russ Steele, Fred Buhler, Barry Pruett, and I are on the Sierra Economics and Science Foundation board. More on SESF can be found at sesfoundation.org.

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Jeff Pelline

30 January 2015

More detail here too: http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2012/03/02/county-cites-erroneous-methodology-in-column-by-a-ses-foundation-board-member/

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Barry Pruett

30 January 2015

Thank you George. As you will see in my email, the event was awesome…a united community around a common purpose. Love this place.

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Ben Emery

30 January 2015

I think the disdain here for Jeff Pelline is out of jealousy. Why else do you spend so much time and energy on him? He is a successful journalist that has been trained to asked probing questions and how to digest and process the answers. Some of it has to do with ongoing personal fights, which I will not get involved or participate. Just because we do not agree with each other that doesn’t mean the other person is a clueless moron. I will admit I do not extend that kind of respect to Todd J. but in my opinion he has earned the treatment and label of “moron” from those who oppose his views unless we are talking about contracting, then my guess he has lots to offer.

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Gregory

30 January 2015

Read this silently with your eyes closed, thinking Eric Cartman’s voice and character:
“Barry,
I’m doing just fine. Honest. I’m worried about your temperament, though. BTW, instead of speaking to John Paul, I have had regular discussions with the CPUC — the ones that will approve the 1G contract. There have been some hiccups with that project, including opposition from a “WISP” provider that hasn’t been reported, but it will be approved. I expect it to get on the agenda in March. We run in different circles, to be sure, but I get around.”

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fish

30 January 2015

Read this silently with your eyes closed, thinking Eric Cartman’s voice and character:
I do….but I need to be prompted. Whenever I see jeffy post something the default voice I hear is Eric Stonestreet from “Modern Family”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsF3ZpSNcRA

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Todd Juvinall

30 January 2015

Ben Emery 10:47 AM
I thank you for the compliments Ben Emery. In my world when a leftwing nutball criticizes me I know I am winning. It does my heart good to know a liberal calls me a moron. Wow!
Anyway, the reason Pelline is criticized (as are most of you loons on the left) is becasue you are the gift that keeps on giving. Every time you libs open your mouths we gain many more adherents to our common sense policies. So, please Ben Emery, I encourage you to keep on keeping on as well as keeping your nose pressed firmly into the small space of your hero Pelline. And as usual, ROTFLMAO!

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fish

30 January 2015

I think the disdain here for Jeff Pelline is out of jealousy.
This is as stupid a statement as you stating that the reason that we “old white men” were so difficult was because we hadn’t had a “great” war to fight in.
/snickering!

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Ben Emery

30 January 2015

Todd,
Winning What?
Do you remember thinking people in their sunset years not understanding the modern world?
You are that person in their sunset years that got stuck in a world that existed decades ago.
Fish,
Who else here at RR have a degree in Journalism?
Who else has professional covered energy, natural resource, and tech giants of the silicon valley during the boom of the 80’s and 90’s?
He has the training, experience, and understanding of how approach an issue with these issues. The jealously shines brightly when criticisms are accompanied by personal (school yard bullying) attacks on him personally.

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Todd Juvinall

30 January 2015

Ben Emery, gosh, I guess I must be stuck in the past according to you. I am kind of nostalgic for the days before you libs started over-regulating every little thing and taking the freedoms from the people. Yep, I get a little glassy eyed about that. Also, you libs have taken opportunity to prosper away from entrepreneurs by stealing their property and giving it to others. I get teary about that too. But hey, I am a self taught computer guy starting in 1986 and have come to realize their value in getting the truth out. Of course the libs never tell the truth so it is a full time job for me and others to ensure your farcical views are contested.
Lastly, since I probably put 40 million bucks through the local economy over my construction years, and hired hundreds of locals, I would expect a little more sympathy from a social “taker” such as yourself. And as always, ROTFLMAO!

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Joe Koyote

30 January 2015

“Every time you libs open your mouths we gain many more adherents to our common sense policies.”
Kind of like every time a drone kills an innocent bystander 5-10 new jihadists get on board.

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Todd Juvinall

30 January 2015

Yes, I think you are right! LOL!

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Joe Koyote

30 January 2015

Who else here at RR have a degree in Journalism?
I have two in Mass communication. Same difference only my focus was propaganda not news.

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fish

30 January 2015

Posted by: Ben Emery | 30 January 2015 at 12:22 PM
Who else here at RR have a degree in Journalism?
Yes because if there is a discipline that really impresses me it’s journalism! Hah!
Who else has professional covered energy, natural resource, and tech giants of the silicon valley during the boom of the 80’s and 90’s?
He shouldn’t have….I’ve seen some of his old stuff…..an eight grader could whomp up a “Jeff Pelline Randon Content Generator” that could have produced output of equal quality. Ironically getting out of the newspaper business has allowed him to do what he probably should have been doing all along…..writing about food…..on that topic he’s a regular Mozart!
He has the training, experience, and understanding of how approach an issue with these issues. The jealously shines brightly when criticisms are accompanied by personal (school yard bullying) attacks on him personally
Again more psychological analysis of questionable quality from Ben the erstwhile nursing student. The saddest part of the whole affair is that of every one who posts here jeffy has the worst command of the written language. Northwestern should ask for their degree back! George, Russ, Greg, Frisch all write better quality posts and responses than the great wordsmith! Hell even Tozer and Todd bring more to the table than Nevada Counties answer to Hedda Hopper.
But hey…If he impresses you…….

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Gregory

30 January 2015

Show me a BA in Rhetoric and a Master’s in Journalism and I see someone who couldn’t get into law school. I understand how someone with essentially no postsecondary academic experiences might be in awe of a masters in journalism, but the average salaries for journalists should take care of that.

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Jeff Pelline

30 January 2015

Ben, I think you’re right! Dr. Phil would have a field day with this blog! LOL.

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fish

30 January 2015

Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 30 January 2015 at 01:31 PM
…and like clockwork he weighs in with more mediocrity….and I say this a a man of average talents at best…..in a world populated with also rans jeffy could be our king!

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Todd Juvinall

30 January 2015

fish, Dr. Phil would be more interested in the Pelline blog in his pursuit of blog-nuts but Pelline would moderate him off. LOL!

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Gregory

30 January 2015

I will say a Masters in J beats an Education doctorate any day, except the Ed guy will retire with a six figure pension despite a probable two digit IQ.

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Joe Koyote

30 January 2015

Todd 12:34 –Same mechanism, different sides of the fence. Back to the old saying that one person’s freedom fighter is another persons terrorist. It is all about point of view created by culture. That is all that separates one human being from another and that is what war is all about. One point of view trying to overwhelm another point of view. It’s crazy from the get-go.

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George Rebane

30 January 2015

JoeK 259pm – “crazy from the get-go”?? Really? Since in war, it only takes one to tango – was it crazy to resist the Ottomans in 1683 Vienna, Nazi Germany in WW2, Tojo’s Japan in WW2, Stalin et al during the Cold War, Caliphate-bound ragheads today, …? Admittedly, I am speaking as a child, student, and defender of western civilization. And there is no enemy I respect more than those willing to sacrifice themselves so that others may practice their beliefs unhindered.
While all wars do not resolve and may lead to other wars, history does demonstrate that the course of human events has always depended on the best swords and people ready to wield them. In short, wars do settle things, else no one would spend treasure to arm and fight.
So from the point of view of my beloved culture I resist those who seek to destroy it. I reserve the right to judge Islam from a distinctly parochial perch, as they do me. I believe that humanity would be (and has been) better off practicing the tenets of my culture, than those of Islam; they believe the obverse. And therefore we fight while pundits with neither commitment to nor understanding of either withdraw to the heights, look down on us, and cluck their tongues.
However, there is a difference. I and mine will fight to enable and protect your clucking tongues, while the ragheads would cut them out. You are fortunate indeed.

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Joe Koyote

30 January 2015

I and mine will fight to enable and protect your clucking tongues, while the ragheads would cut them out.
— what a crock of shit George.. get your panties out of a bundle. The worst form of racism is super patriotism.. just look at what the Nazis did for proof. Ultra-patriotism is what allows atrocities to occur.. my country right or wrong is not the answer. But I digress… My point, that your lenses filtered out due to your patriotic enthusiasm to condemn anyone remotely associated with progressive thinking and thereby defending your vision of America, is that war is atrocious no matter what the reason and historically seem to be more clashes of culture than anything else. One group declares another group the enemy and away we go. Nowhere in my statement did I say that war was always unnecessary, although in a truly civilized world it would not be (humanity, as a whole, isn’t quite there yet). The notion that progressive thinking people would let evil doers go unpunished while the righteous defenders of freedom, such as yourself, would be the only ones to act, as you insinuate, is pure crap, heaped and steaming.

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