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Sandbox – 20jun14

20 June 2014

[Time for some fresh sand, the old sandbox was getting so full that comment threads were getting harder to follow. Apparently there is some dispute about what liberals are claiming about the Right not supporting college education, and other matters. gjr]

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91 responses to “Sandbox – 20jun14”

Todd Juvinall

22 June 2014

Joe Koyote | 22 June 2014 at 10:52 PM
I agree JoeK, all those leftwing militant terrorists training up here on Banner Mountain should be stopped!

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Bill Tozer

22 June 2014

Mr. Todd, there ought to be a law against the free association of those left wing militant terrorist truthers up on Banner Mountain. There goes the neighborhood.

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Joe Koyote

22 June 2014

You are absolutely right Todd. It’s crazy fools like that who take their politics too seriously and hurt innocent people, you know the kind, like Tim McVeigh. Just look at Iraq and Ukraine and Syria and Nevada and Edwards Crossing. Political and religious zealots are killing each other and innocent people over who-knows-what and tens of thousands of people’s lives are begin totally disrupted and destroyed. All because some ass gasket convinces a bunch of really stupid people that violence and hatred are the only solutions to their problems. I agree whole-heartedly with George’s general assessment that some people are sheeple (or better lemmings) being led over a cliff. The greater question is who?

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fish

23 June 2014

Points of clarification
I didn’t realize George and Russ were in the military during WWII:
I don’t believe either were. I said George was a child of WWII (http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/06/geislingen-dp-camp-years-1945-49.html).
Russ’ service was after as well.
You do, in a weak attempt to smear Todd, make reference to those conscripted. Given this I retract this part of my rant.

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fish

23 June 2014

Thank goodness for the sandbox. A safe place to unload one’s burdens.
Indeed! Tozer you are the Sam Clemens of Rebanes Ruminations.
My Fish, you really should control that anger. 🙂
I suppose so….I seem to lose my mind about this time each year regarding something stupid and self serving that Ben posts.
Do you need a Brother Ben hug to make your boo-boo feel better?
Nope…that what the alcohol is for. It is simultaneously the cause and cure of all our problems (Hat Tip – Homer Simpson)
Yes, I don’t practice what I preach and conversing or even reading what libholes write is an experience that could drive Carrie Nation to drink. Not for the faint of heart.
It would seem that it isn’t Bill.
Need a 20 ton boulder to pound your noggin against? It may not help, but it will take your mind off Brother Ben’s world vision.
Or render me as stupid as he is….no thanks on the boulder Bill I’ll stick to the booze!

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

JoeK, you overlook all the lives your lefty terrorists take. Why is that?
Fish, the left uses the “not served” as a way to muzzle anyone who did not serve even thought they themselves did not. I never have figured that out. They really do have a screw loose. I usually use Clinton and Obama as a retort. Hell, Clinton marched against his own country on a visit to Moscow and the left embraced him like a brother. Too funny!

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

There be many reasons for young men (kids actually) to sign up or not for military active duty. Some are true conscientious objectors to any and all war, some have scholarships to college; the reasons go on and on. We have a volunteer military now. When the draft was in full force and you saw your number on the list, that was different. Canada welcomed our draft dodgers. Some joined the reserves, some pursued higher education.
Once when I was hitchhiking up in British Columbia, a guy from the woods picked me up. He saw me standing on the road with my dirty military duffle bag in the morning when he went to work and I was still standing there when he came home. In fact, he slammed on the breaks backed up, and took me to his log cabin for the night. He was from San Francisco, a draft dodger, had a Canadian wife and kids and a good paying job and Canada was now his adopted country. We did not discuss war nor military.
The only thing he wanted to talk about was baseball. “Tell me about the Giants” he pleaded and quizzed me on every detail. Unfortunately for him, I was on the road for a few years and had no idea what was happening or had happened recently in the baseball world. He loved his wife and family, his log cabin they built with their own hands, but late at night in the stillness and quiet, his mind would drift back to going to the baseball games. He missed baseball, big hole in his heart.
Point is we all made decisions when we were 18 and some decisions follow us and/or change the direction of our lives, be it having a baby as a teenager or whatever.
Seems foolish to me to hold any one accountable after all these years for not being a dumbshit at 18 and ending up in hanging by one’s wrists in a bamboo cage and being dragged by water buffalo down the gauntlet. Whatever don’t break ya will make ya. Whoever said they draft 18 year olds cause they are stupid might have been on to something.
Now, this being the sand box, this is what is really on my mind this fine lovely morn.
1) The clash of religions:
http://freebeacon.com/blog/pope-says-pot-is-evil-rabbi-says-pass-the-kouchie/
Income Inequality:
http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-im-not-truly-well-off/

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

Here is the latest “global warming” expose’. Seems the left and the grant seekers have been manipulating the on ground temperatures. I think Russ actually proved this by finding the gauges in odd places around the land. But in this case the “scientists” replaced actual data with computer data.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html
As far as the draft, I was in the first “lottery” and my number was 326. They went to 118 that year.

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Joe Koyote

23 June 2014

Todd – 1) What is your problem, which lefty terrorists are you referring to? I agreed with you that lefty terrorists groups like Mothers against drunk drivers and organic farmers, along with right wing neo-nazi terrorists like Clive Bundy need to be nipped in the bud. As usual, Todd, you are just throwing up a shitstorm of bullshit to hide the fact that you really have no clue but have to assert yourself anyway. Were you the playground bully in elementary school who pushed the 2nd graders around and took their lunch money because you were the only 13 year old in the fourth grade and could get away with it?

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Joe Koyote

23 June 2014

On “did not serve” as a muzzling device. Damn right. This is not an issue of free speech but one of knowledge. I have talked to a lot of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan vets, not one of them ever condoned war or agreed with the powers-that-be as to why they were fighting in the first place. To them it was a simple matter of survival, politics had nothing to do with it. If a person has never personally experienced how utterly horrible war is, then they ought to keep their mouths shut when it comes to crowing about war and sending other people’s loved ones to die. If a person has never had their buddy’s head blown off right next to them, then they ought to keep their mouths shut because they don’t have a clue about what they are saying. This is especially true of politicians, pundits, and ex-politicians who are now pundits. They don’t call those people chicken hawks for nothing. If the shoe fits, wear it Todd. It has been said often and by many people that if those who call for war had to actually fight the wars they start, there wouldn’t be war.

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George Rebane

23 June 2014

At this stage of my RR commentaries there should be no confusion as to my role in WW2, it is all down in the My Story category. My active duty in the military was in the Army as an artillery officer during the so-called ‘Crisis Years’ when the US and USSR were confronting each other in places like Cuba and Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin (trigger pull from WW3). I was also stationed in the Fulda Gap area of the Iron Curtain. We fired the (tactical nuclear) 175mm SP. In WW2 the Rebanes were among the thousands of east European refugees who served as targets of terror bombings and strafings by both sides.

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

Golly Joe Koyote, I am shocked! You use a phony name while I use my real name and you chastise me and others for honesty? Too funny. You are the true coward on the pages JoeK, you are just a little weasel with a big mouth and no truth. I treat your comments as a “nothing” since you are a coward. I will never be muzzled about discussing any topic especially on war and politics. You never served and are the true coward because you don’t support your own country. Well, maybe you do, the old USSR perhaps? Since you are anonymous, I would suggest you may want to get some balls so we can see the tru person. Hell, you sound like a woman. Are you a woman? Too funny!

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Joe Koyote

23 June 2014

That’s right Todd, I never served and I’m not a cheerleader for war like you are. Who is the real coward here? And if you see my comments as nothing, why do you respond so vehemently? It is OK for “fish” to use a pseudonym but not me. What a hypocrite you are. I don’t use my real name because some right wing domestic terrorist with an IQ of 12 might read this and come after me with a gun and ammunition they scored at the Range on fathers day, while you stand on the sidelines and cheer them on in the name of freedom and democracy. Freedom at the point of a gun. Let’s start a violent revolution because you don’t like affordable healthcare, or early childhood education. Some of you folks are flat out of your minds and so easily fooled that it is scary beyond belief. Besides Todd, what does a pseudonym have to do with being a chicken hawk.. duh.. nothing. Keep throwing crap a the wall and eventually some of it might stick. Do you not like women Todd. Am I supposed to be insulted by being called a woman? A true reflection of your misogynist viewpoint.
Oh, and I apologize for the 13 year old in the fourth grade comment, you were probably 16 at the time and was the only kid at Union Hill with a drivers license, that is if you could pass the written test, which based on your comments, I doubt.

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

My,my, Joe Koyote. If Todd was 16 years old and had a drivers license, then that would have made him the one with the biggest dong in 4th grade and driving a car to boot. That is what is known as chick magnet, a curse that followed him to this very day.
I oppose the afforable care act for many reason and I am in the majority of this one. Latest bi-partisan poll: 59% say they wish the act never passed. Darn, I like being the underdog.
Don’t know much about early childhood education, but if it is anything like the Headstart Program, then it has no discernible advantage. Study after study shows that the Headstart Program does not prepare one for school any more or less than those poor kids in the same situations that do not use Headstart, year after year, now decade after decade.
Speaking of education, here is a public education story with a silver lining and it actually just might improve our schools. Win-win for the pupils and their parents, the only ones that really matter in public education.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/carriesheffield/2014/06/22/california-court-teacher-tenure-ruling-bolsters-public-schools-finances/

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

Joe Koyote, you are a troll, too funny! Yep you are a Jewell. But like all liberals you are just a coward. Use your real name like I do and get some backbone. You dish it out but like all effeminate liberals, you whine when you get back better.
Let me see, Union Hill? Never went there. Support war mongering? Never have. Cheer on someone who may read your comments and wish you harm? Nope, not me. I just crack up though when you liberal wimps run behind your momma’s skirts when it looks like you have to protect yourself. You are a nobody and you have to admit, with a fake name we don’t know if you are a boy or a girl. Oh, and unlike you, I love women as equals. What a hoot!

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Gregory

23 June 2014

JoKe’s 9:02AM seems to be saying if you’ve not experienced the horrors of war you should shut up, unless you agree with him. He never experienced them himself but he speaks for the vets he’s talked to.
Did I get that right?

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

Joe Koyote and Big Dong Todd (the guy with the valid driver’s license).
It is not hate mongering to state the oblivious which everyone coast to coast is thinking anyway. Our public schools are beyond sinking like a rock. They be beyond flat lined. Usually the deceased do no more harm. Yet, they somehow are continuing to wreck havoc and damage from a dimension beyond death with tubes hooked up to a machine and their brains in a pickle jar just to keep the tax dollars flowing to the Teachers Union Bosses.
Does that mean I hate teachers? Generally no, but some should be forced to give back their salaries and be put in stocks in the public square, close enough to smell the odor emitting from a public restroom on a hot August day with no shade. Generally, I don’t hate teachers per se. I do abhor what our public education system has become. A half way house for recovering brain dead Teacher Union Thugs and their sheeple who don’t give a rat’s ash about our kids or their parents. It is all about money and keeping their worthless pathetic solutions on life support. They do more harm than good when they show up.
So, here is just another sensible solution from one state….now make that two. Thank goodness someone is focusing on the reason there are teachers and schools, i.e., the pupil!
http://watchdog.org/155758/florida-school-choice/

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fish

23 June 2014

It is OK for “fish” to use a pseudonym but not me.
Truth be told Todd….Joe has a point. Since I’ve been here George has allowed me to post under a pseudonym…to the howls of complaint and derision from jeffy, Ben and Steve.
Only right to extend the same courtesy to him

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

Fish there is a difference in the anonymous nature of Joe/JosephineK’s personal attacks and your kind of comedic comments. But it is George;s blog and I stand by my view Joe/Joesephine is a wimp hiding behind his/her momma’s skirt.
Regarding teachers. I know many nice teachers and I generally don’t complain about them. Having raised a couple of boys here in this Nevada City school district I can say however the system sucked bad. I look at the criticism of the system as this. I recall when the commies said they hated our government but loved the people. Same thing for the teachers. I think we must remove tenure and go to merit. Things will change overnight. Just like they did when Clinton signed welfare reform. Two million off the rolls almost overnight!

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Gregory

23 June 2014

Regarding pseudonyms, they even got pissed off at my partialnym; it was then I was sure they were just trying to drag my name through the mud. The Attack Poodle of NSJ kept posting my full name until he got tired of it, and fairly recently, Michael P. Anderson of Clientworks was doing the same thing, until I followed through with my pledge to start adding his name and company to the mix.
If anyone ever gets sued by Fattius Maximus (good one), be sure to look into the sock puppets used at his sandbox; I’d bet serious money on some of them being figments of his own imagination, conjured up to give him a hearty ‘atta boy! when he needs a friend.

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fish

23 June 2014

If anyone ever gets sued by Fattius Maximus (good one), be sure to look into the sock puppets used at his sandbox; I’d bet serious money on some of them being figments of his own imagination, conjured up to give him a hearty ‘atta boy! when he needs a friend.
Yes..there are a couple of painfully obvious examples that jeffy operates both at his site and when he drops by Todds.

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fish

23 June 2014

Regarding pseudonyms, they even got pissed off at my partialnym; it was then I was sure they were just trying to drag my name through the mud.
Joe also has mentioned that he has been threatened off line….I understand perfectly why he wants to minimize exposure.

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

It is not possible to be threatened offline since no one has his address. He is lying. But since I use my real name, I am subject to that. One must let their nuts drop and become a man. Joe/JosephineK is androgynous. LOL!

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fish

23 June 2014

Uh oh…one of jeffys regulars is getting spun up….I only hope jeffy is responsible enough to denounce this hate speech.
Curtis Walker says:
June 23, 2014 at 11:40 am
Blackface in a Parade here tells you all you EVER need to know about the GOP/RIGHT here. After That, Move along…
WHEN THE MASSES DO GO POSTAL, OLD WHITE MEN AIN’T GOT ENOUGH
GUNS TO DEAL WITH THE MASSES LOOKING FOR THEM. PAYBACK WILL BE UGLY. THEY POURED THE GAS AND LIT THE MATCH. IF THE PLD WHITE MEN START VIOLENCE, it will backfire. Being old and white will not be cool. Thank FOX TOO.
OR AM I WRONG? SANE FOLKS ONLY PLEASE.
Can’t really tell if old Curtis is making a threat, offering a warning, or trying his hand at posting an online personals ad.
SANE FOLKS ONLY indeed!!!

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fish

23 June 2014

The Attack Poodle of NSJ kept posting my full name until he got tired of it….
Attack Poodle…?

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fish

23 June 2014

It is not possible to be threatened offline since no one has his address…
With enough time finding out someones “real” name is not that big a deal.
Frankly I’m surprised that by now I haven’t been greeted by my real name here following a little detective work by one of the local lefty regulars.

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

fish, they won’t find you. Josephine/JoeK uses a madeup emeail address name as well. You are safe as is she.

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

Curtis Walker? That name sounds kinda familiar. Oh yeah, isn’t he the dudette that ran for public office and LOST big time? Think Bro Ben is his prodigy. Thought Queen Nancy landed him a job in DC, or was that some other loser. The left has so many losers littering the streets of our local burgs is hard to keep their bodies lined up all nice and straight and properly identified.
I love the detective work of some of these sock puppets. Just fed them a line of bull and flush them out. Yep, even Fattis Maximus is too stupid to realize he is still dropping phrases and using the same sentence structure he did when we had the old Union blog, lol. Hee hee hee. Gawd his hee hee hees were annoying. Glad he finally dropped that habit. So beneath a professional journalist.
Once I had Fattis trying to find my real name on the Union blog. There I changed names like a fat boy sweating in The South changes shirts. He went straight to the phone book, then straight to the voter rolls, then quizzed for more infor. Just like Gerry Fedor did. What a coincidence. Hey Mr. Maximus, you are “so transparent”, hee hee hee.

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Michael Anderson

23 June 2014

George, remove my name from Gregory’s comment immediately.

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

That did not take long.

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Gregory

23 June 2014

Mikey, you forgot the magic word, not that it should make any difference.
So, does Michael P. Anderson (I’ll not add his company name this time as his cage is sufficiently rattled, even though he failed to mention tha) think George should have, with my demand, deleted the mention of my full name (and sometimes even the name of my alma mater) from posts by the likes of him and his buddies?

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Gregory

23 June 2014

fish…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_poodle
Regarding the masses going postal, I recall the Rodney King riots… armed Korean shopkeepers (by Korean, I refer to folks who were born there) on the rooftops of their minimarts were a match for the mobs threatening them and their livelihoods. I also recall a gentleman living in the toney hills (think Beverly), amazed at the firepower he and his neighbors had brought out of the closet to bear in the blockcade of their neighborhood stating something like “I always thought I’d be on the other side of the barricade when the revolution came.”

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Michael Anderson

23 June 2014

Gregory, please go fuck yourself.

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Todd Juvinall

23 June 2014

Careful Tozer, I think the Curtis fellow has stated he is black. You could be setting yourself up for a hate crime for even murmurring opposition to his views. I have read some of the fellow tripe over on the bigboys blog and I must say, he is simply an ignorant man regarding present day life. He is still 160 years ago.
BTW, I post to the BB’s blog and he never publishes. I even commented using Bambi and Thumper and he booted it. Too funny!
I see Michael Anderson still reads here as well. Burning Man is coming up. Lots of fun I heard if you are a de[praved nudist pothead. LOL!

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Gregory

23 June 2014

Just taking a measurement of your hypocrisy, Mikey, and it’s as oversized as always.
Between Clientworks, the Black Rock Travel Agency and the “Starport”, I’d have thought you had better things to do.

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

Mr. Todd, don’t know about the color of his skin as I judge a man by the content of his character. However, those incendiary hateful words of Mr. Walker’s (that were reposted on Dr. Rebane’s outstanding blog) were full of hate, anger, discontent, frustration, and venom. I hope he is a person of color because if he isn’t, he must really hate the image in the mirror. That boy has some serious issues. If ONLY he were born black. Life is so unfair.
Life is too short to hate. Another libhole coming unglued. Could it be another victim of Climate Change? Must be hard being a libbie these days. They sit around with farts they think do not stink and knowing they are on the side of truth, justice, and the Greater Good. They b the good guys. Tragically, they actually believe their own bull puckey.
Then they look across the fruited plain and amber waves of grain and see they are the butt of jokes from almost sea to almost shining sea. They do own the population centers near great bodies of water, excluding the Gulf Coast. That I will glady grant them. And all the barrios, slums, and crime infested soiled areas. They can claim those urban blights with glee, but I digress per my MO.
So, they look across the horizon and realize that if they drive 100 miles East, South, or North, nobody thinks their farts don’t smell. Nobody thinks they are on the side of Truth, Justice, nor the American Way. Must just drive them looney that we dummies just cannot grasp what they are trying to do FOR us. We dummies can only grasp what they are doing TO us. Its going to be a long hot summer I tell ya.
Reminds me once I had to get a fleet of trucks together, asap. Used Teamsters cause they had the lock on the city. I noticed one truck had a new bumper sticker on the back bumper that said “Teamsters Fight Drugs”. The next day I noticed some one up to mischievous mischief had taken a black marker and inserted the word FOR on it, reading now “Teamsters Fight For Drugs”. The following day I saw some silly prankster in different penmanship crossed out the word FOR and added ON, so the bumper sticker read “TEAMSTERS FIGHT ON DRUGS”. Later I noticed the bumper sticker was removed. Heard the shop steward came by and was none to pleased. Like libs, just can’t get no respect. What to do with a box load of new bumper stickers I pondered. Oh what to do? Wonder if they ended up at the Goodwill.
BTW, Mr. Todd, Paul E once stated that he knows Joe Koyote and that is his name. While you and Paul may not see eye to eye and Paul vowed never to respond to me again, I believe that Paul is a truthful person of good character. Maybe Joe Koyote is not a real sock puppet in the sense that we know and love the other sock puppets and their schizophrenic natures. Besides, his writing style is true to form. Just throw a barb at inefficient government or piss poor educators or mention The Constitution of the United States of America and the real sock puppets slither out from under the rocks where Mr.Walt buried them.

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Michael Anderson

23 June 2014

Greg, go fuck yourself.
[Mr Anderson repeated this exact exhortation in the sequel many more times, and promised to return and repeat his performance. We hope that he will not. I have unpublished the repetitions. gjr
PS. Just discovered one more very long invective along the same line from Mr Anderson that TypePad had properly put in the spam filter where I’m sure it will keep.]

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Russ Steele

23 June 2014

Good lord, this is an Adult Blog, not a second grade school yard! Grow UP!

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Bill Tozer

23 June 2014

Mr. Anderson, perhaps Dr Rebane is currently taking a nappy-pooh, or reading a physics book with lots of k’s and n’s and r’s and graphs with big words beyond my pay grade or perhaps visiting some beautiful historical sites on this lovely day.
You should have taken my advice and gotten a room. I would say I told ya so, but that is sooooo beneath moi.
I am currently on staycation so I am always here for you. I can listen at times (or pretend to be listening intently). A trick I learned to pacify the 2nd and 3rd wives.
Have your secretary call my executive assistant and arrange for lunch. Dutch ok?
This calls for more visual aides without big words.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10426603_907446549271922_6013924743129084325_n.jpg

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fish

23 June 2014

Good lord, this is an Adult Blog, not a second grade school yard! Grow UP!
I confess Russ there are days I have my doubts…..let’s at least attempt to put our best face forward once and a while though.

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Michael Anderson

23 June 2014

George, I stopped commenting on this blog 2 weeks ago. I said my final goodbyes, even wished everyone well. Since then Greg continues to cyberstalk me and you continue to allow it.
THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING, GEORGE. YOU WILL EITHER STOP GREG FROM CYBERSTALKING ME BY MODERATING OR REMOVING HIS COMMENTS, OR I AM GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM FOR YOU.
I will read your response in the morning, which will determine my next course of action. I’m done fucking around with you, George. Capiche?

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