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FUE on CABPRO (updated)

09 February 2014

Do not exhibit your sore finger; for all to strike upon, and do not complain of it, for malice always pounds where it hurts the most. No use to get angry, for this will only add to the general amusement; evil intent goes sneaking around to uncover the infirmity, and prods about to discover where suffering is greatest, in a thousand different ways, until it hits the spot. … Gracian #145 (Fischer translation)

George Rebane

Just got back from travel, and after we unloaded the truck I fired up the ol’ laptop to check my emails. Our ‘designated reader’ (a dirty job, but someone has to do it) emailed again the latest blog post by the Former Union Editor who has recently been all over CABPRO like ugly on a bear’s ass. His latest gleeful message excoriates Russ Steele, Todd Juvinall, and me for not hanging out CABPRO’s current internal machinations for all to see. All of us have been or are CABPRO members who support the work of the organization, and we see no reason to advertise the internal dust-up going on in this private advocacy group. (Jo Ann and I are members, and I am a former board member of the organization. Jo Ann’s cited piece in the CABPRO newsletter was picked up from the NC Republican Women Federated newsletter. Jo Ann is a board member and an officer of the NCRWF.)

As they evolve, such problems occur in almost all organizations as longstanding as CABPRO, and there is no legal or ethical reason why these must be made public. The organization’s supportive members always want these matters to be handled internally and discreetly, and get their group flying hot, true, and normal again as soon as possible. Therefore we let others, those who work counter to the organization, carry that water – a job which they will inevitably and happily always seek to do. FUE is just sailing under his true colors.

[update] Apologies to Todd Juvinall, fellow blogger and arguably the founder of CABPRO, who has some important history on the organization that I failed to pick up before posting this piece. You can access it here.

Posted in Critical Thinking & Numeracy, Current Affairs, Nevada County

102 responses to “FUE on CABPRO (updated)”

George Rebane

14 February 2014

ToddJ 950am – Yes, it is a sad kind of ‘funny’ when the FUE is so desperate for traffic that he turns cartwheels in how he represents and maintains his blog. But the biggest comedy comes from his ‘scoops’ and ‘scooplets’. My designated reader emails report his outrage that The Union’s reporting on the CABPRO kerfuffle did not give him credit for ‘discovering’ what at least half of our community has been aware of for quite some time. Apropos to this, I refer the casual reader to my comments about journalism and journalists in the addendum here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/02/economic-bombshells-muffled.html

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Todd Juvinall

14 February 2014

So true George. He is a true narcissist and I am really scratching my head why he thinks that way. Check his picture out. Sheesh!

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Ben Emery

14 February 2014

Todd,
As the lone founder of CABPRO “I started CABPRO from whole cloth to assist.”** and was the predecessor to Mr Shea as the Executive Director of the organization, what is your role in all this? I know you wrote a blog post about the issue trying to distance yourself from the controversy. In such a small county and even smaller population center it is hard to believe the sole founder and Executive Director as recent as 2012 walked away completely and cleanly from their organization.
Who’s in charge of CABPRO?
http://www.theunion.com/news/10188854-113/board-cabpro-shea-organization
** http://www.sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/2014/02/cabpro.html#comment-form

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Todd Juvinall

14 February 2014

There is no there there BenE. I turned over the Exec role to others after about 1998 or so. All were women except for Light and Shea. I was an equal opportunity fella when it came to power for women. While you were changing your shorts in gym class, I was organizing the community into a true “All American” county (I was also Chairman of the NCRCC, an elected position). But, when I turned it over it was because I decided to restart my business and spend my time there. CABPRO was in good hands with Margaret Urke and Sharon the office manager and the bevy of volunteers.

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Gregory

14 February 2014

The latest Peeline is ghostwritten by Frisch…
“What is different about western Nevada County is that certain people have adopted a philosophy of ‘divide and conquer’ and have used divisiveness to hold and maintain political power.”
Begs for a Crabbman blast from the past:

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Ben Emery

14 February 2014

Todd,
Thanks for a genuine response. I know with the small organizations/ businesses I have worked with the founder has a hard time letting go, it was their baby.

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George Rebane

14 February 2014

Gregory 1145am – Good pick-up. For the complete image of Bob’s cartoon, see here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/03/beware-the-rl-crabb.html

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Ben Emery

14 February 2014

Greg,
The funny thing about RL Crabb cartoon, if a couple words are changed it fits you perfectly.

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fish

14 February 2014

Greg,
The funny thing about RL Crabb cartoon, if a couple words are changed it fits you perfectly.
Ben,
The funny thing about RL Crabb cartoon, if a couple words are changed it fits you perfectly.

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fish

14 February 2014

Hey look….A group of Bens peeps engaging in a ramndom act of community service.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/14/knock-that-white-boy-out-arrests-made-after-mob-of-teens-attack-disabled-vet/

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Gregory

14 February 2014

It’s nice to see Ben in full reactionary flower in defense of his patron. Ben, just what sentence do you think fits? BTW, I can’t stand Chardonnay and chili fries are only a treat when I can get to the original Tommy’s on Rampart in LA, so it isn’t that one.
George, in my browser I can right-click on a partial image and choose “view image” to get a full view. I’ve tried html that should carve out a full view but RR doesn’t cooperate.

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George Rebane

14 February 2014

Gregory 1257pm – RR is at the mercy of TypePad. However, copying the complete HTML code patch for the image from my 2011 post does seem to correct the problem.

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stevenfrisch

14 February 2014

Posted by: Gregory | 14 February 2014 at 11:45 AM
The comments on Mr Pelline’s blog were not ‘ghostwritten’ by me they were proudly posted there under my real name as an individual this morning under the CABPRO thread. Mr. Pelline chose to highlight them at the top of his blog. I stand by my observations, and the quotes embedded, 100%.

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Bonnie McGuire

14 February 2014

What Greg Zaller and Liz Keller had to say on Mr. Pelline’s blog were like a breath of fresh air? Isn’t the truth wonderful?

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Todd Juvinall

14 February 2014

Yes they were Bonnie. Pelline went apoplectic. Zaller is a nice guy.

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Ben Emery

14 February 2014

Fish, 14 February 2014 at 12:42 PM
I advocate for equality and that would include for the disabled.
Your right on par with the immaturity level of your fab five cohorts. You guys are sick little kids. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if you all abused animals when you were young.

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Ben Emery

14 February 2014

Greg,
If you want to pick a person apart for their opinions or positions go for it. The problem I have with almost all of you at RR is you attack the person in ways that have nothing to do with opinions or politics. Very immature.
If you haven’t noticed you go off the deep end every once in awhile attacking an individual relentlessly about anything and everything. It is kind of embarrassing to witness.

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Todd Juvinall

14 February 2014

Ben Emery 7:18 PM said
“Your right on par with the immaturity level of your fab five cohorts. You guys are sick little kids. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if you all abused animals when you were young.”
Ben Emery, I will give you credit for being quite the obnoxious little boy. You are saying we abused animals when we were young which in modern parlance means “serial killers”. Are you sur you don’t want to withdraw that?

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Bill Tozer

14 February 2014

Hey Brother Ben, you out there? Happy Valentines Day. Day is named after a massacre, but who cares. That was then, this is now. A kiss on yer mug for my sweetie, my sista from anotha mista. I bet today there is a blue bird on yer shoulder. Happy, Happy, Saint Valentine’s Day!! No school Monday! Happy, Happy White Presidents’ Day! Oh, I simply get all goggle-eyed this time of year.

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fish

15 February 2014

I advocate for equality and that would include for the disabled.
Phfffft….another Standard Emery throwaway platitude…..you’re like a doll with a cord in its neck….pull the string on any issue and get a canned response.
pull: …..I advocate for equality and that would include for the disabled.
pull: …someone poisoned the water hole.
pull:….you’re just a FASCIST/CORPORATIST/AUTHORITARIAN…
pull:….there’s a snake in my boot
pull:…..Very Immature…
pull:….math is hard… Oops, Sorry that was Barbie…..must have been your feminist string.
You do realize that nothing posted on a blog is required to conform to the standard rules of debate, honesty, or good manners don’t you…..If they were Pelline would have to take his site down. And to your point about, ….If you want to pick a person apart for their opinions or positions go for it., Nigga please! The progressive side of politics (your side) invented attacking the man, the progressive side of the blogosphere perfected it! I’m sure you’ve seen and probably participated in a Tuesday morning KosKid swarm against someone who had the temerity to interject an opposing opinion during one of their discussions…….RACIST!!!!!…..HATER!!!!!!……HOMOPHOBE!!!!…..TEATHUGLIKKKAN!!!!!…. ! You just didn’t notice that they were attacking the man and not the idea because it wasn’t your ox being gored. We had a real opportunity to discuss the “ideas” that you treasure so, when you posted your 14 points that you thought qualified one as an authoritarian. We had an assertion: regular commenters at Rebanes Ruminations were Fascist Authortarians, and we had a standard against which we could debate: the 14 points provided by your academic. That would have been a great place to “pick ideas apart”.
Finally to your point about my inclination to abuse animals. There has been much animal abuse in my life…..but I own Dachshunds and they are, as near as I can tell, cranky little fur covered cylinders filled with urine and fury directed against those not in their circle. Those stubby little Kraut bastards abuse me incessantly, so I’m the victim here dammit…..I’m the VICTIM!

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RL Crabb

15 February 2014

The scaly one has a point, Ben. It is rather disingenuous of you to complain about name calling and then from out of nowhere throw animal abuse into the mix. Even a lowly cartoonist like myself would never suggest that conservatives molest collies.

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Todd Juvinall

15 February 2014

Cartoonists are always prepared with their rubber boots when in Wyoming. Where men are men and sheep are nervous.

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Ben Emery

15 February 2014

RL,
A person can only take so many disgusting “jokes”. Linking a story about a disabled person getting beaten by a bunch of teenagers isn’t funny. Posting a picture a person with an insult isn’t funny. Stating you want to beat and piss on a homeless man isn’t funny. Placing a bet that a death of a family member out does my near fatal car accident isn’t funny. The examples can go on and on.

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stevenfrisch

15 February 2014

To figure out who cast the first stone one would need to go back nearly 5 years…and when stoning is the order of the day..it makes little difference.

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fish

15 February 2014

Linking a story about a disabled person getting beaten by a bunch of teenagers isn’t funny.
No, that would be ironic.
The beatified residents of the inner cities….in Ben’s name they be praised…..turn out to be little more than feral animals after all the progressive “help” they’ve received. Who could have even imagined? It’s okay….since good intentions are all that’s counted, your perfect record is intact.
To figure out who cast the first stone one would need to go back nearly 5 years…and when stoning is the order of the day..it makes little difference.
You’re magnificent when you attempt to be statesmanlike.

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Ben Emery

15 February 2014

Fish,
“Hey look….A group of Bens peeps engaging in a ramndom act of community service.”
Ben’s peeps?
ramndom act of community service?
“Linking a story about a disabled person getting beaten by a bunch of teenagers isn’t funny.
No, that would be ironic.”
Where is the irony in your statement and the actions in the link you gave?
“Hey look….A group of Bens peeps engaging in a ramndom act of community service.”
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/14/knock-that-white-boy-out-arrests-made-after-mob-of-teens-attack-disabled-vet/

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Todd Juvinall

15 February 2014

I bet if the teens that beat up the crippled person were black or Hispanic BenE would have to shoot himself over the dilemma of who is the victim he favors the most. Too funny.

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Gregory

15 February 2014

5 years? How’s this for a blast from the past:
“This blog, you people, from George to Russ to Dixon, to the lot of your mindless followers, are the most retrograde idiots in the history of the friggin’ world. Why would anyone waste their breath on you?”
Steven Frisch, 26 Nov 2009
“You people”?
And yet, he’s still here and complaining about how badly the county is split. Divisive is as divisive does, and the wretchedly misnamed Sierra Business Council’s work for the Gang of 4 trying to shove NH2020 down the throat of the body politic was divisive.
Steve, you never have come clean about that. How about just a little mea culpa, something like “Yes, the NH2020 ‘town meetings’ we facilitated were designed to drive the gatherings to predetermined conclusions desired by the majority of the Supervisors but we believed it was for the good of the county”.

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fish

15 February 2014

The inner city oppressed, those selected to receive the paternalistic beneficence of Benlemagne….I guess they missed the memo about getting out of the way and making way for our bright multi-ethnic future (We as white males don’t need to feel guilty about the past we only need not stand in the way of moving forward.). “Knock that white boy out”…….I guess it’s what progressive history demands.

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Todd Juvinall

15 February 2014

Here is the story on the white disabled veteran being beaten and robbed by the black teenage boys. Ben, is the posterior tightening now?
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/14/knock-that-white-boy-out-arrests-made-after-mob-of-teens-attack-disabled-vet/
Greg, Frisch won’t even mail me the contact info for his Board. He is just a real chicken sh** when it come to telling the truth. I think maybe there is no Board and he is running the SBC illegally? After his theft of his employees tax money in the 90’s I would not put that past him.

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Ben Emery

15 February 2014

Fish,
You are dancing around the issue, which is understandable since the position you are taking is deplorable. Maybe if we change the discussion to a discussion about race and criminality it would allow you to get your footing again. The problems with our legal system have more to do with social economic status of a person than the color of their skin but we won’t even attempt to incorporate that into this discussion.
Nature vs. Nurture
Do white people biologically have less of tendency to commit crimes?
Do Black/ African American people biologically have more of a tendency to commit crimes, especially young black/ African American men?
US Population 2012
US Census Bureau
White 77.9%
Black/ African American 13.1%
US Prison Population
Bureau of Prisons 2014
White 59.5%
Black/ African American 37.1%
For the record, in straight numbers not percentages in the US whites occupy more beds in prison and receive most social services.

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Gregory

15 February 2014

Ben, it wasn’t biology which condemned a few generations of young black men to being raised without their fathers in an intact family. That’s taken a few generations of Great Society programs that made fathers by and large superfluous and even a hindrance to receiving largess from Uncle Sugar. If the sperm donor can be identified, Uncle Sugar will drain whatever cash they might have for the poor mom, but one can’t drain blood from a turnip.
These numbers are from 2012:”72.3 percent of non-Hispanic blacks are now born out-of-wedlock; 66.2 percent of American Indians/Alaska Natives; 53.3 percent of Hispanics; 29.1 percent of non-Hispanic whites; and 17.2 percent of Asians/Pacific Islanders.”
About 41% overall. When the Moynihan Report was written, black illegitimacy was about 25%, less than the euroamerican rate now.
Ben, now, put that thinking cap on… how does racism force black fathers and mothers to not raise their children together?

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fish

15 February 2014

Maybe if we change the discussion to a discussion about race and criminality it would allow you to get your footing again. The problems with our legal system have more to do with social economic status of a person than the color of their skin but we won’t even attempt to incorporate that into this discussion.
Now we’re back in Bens wheelhouse…..testify brother!
What does the pounding of of a disabled white guy by multiple black guys have to do with any of your last offering. What does it have to do with just getting out of the futures way? What does it have to do with who receives the most social services?
The problems with our legal system have more to do with social economic status of a person than the color of their skin but we won’t even attempt to incorporate that into this discussion.
Because that wasn’t the topic at hand…steady yourself boy.

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Todd Juvinall

15 February 2014

Once again BenE tries to make dots connect and once again his dots don’t work. Crime in the minority communities is high because the liberals put in place policies and laws since the early 60’s that have wrecked the minority families. We have more prison beds because we have more prisoners.
Now BenE, when a 14 year old black child has a baby and the father is adios, what do you think the odds of that child becoming a doctor are?
I was fascinated last week on a documentary about Pablo Escobar. The first really big time cocaine kingpin from Colombia. Even though he was murdering just about everyone he could, the “poor” folks made him into a hero (he even ran for public office!). Why, because he gave then stuff. And they wanted more stuff. In our country, the feds are the Pablo’s. They give these people their stuff and all they have to do is ask for it. We have the freest country on the planet and I surmise it is that freedom that creates the lawlessness that many people practice. They also have “rights” even though they may be murdering children or feeding them crack.
I would suggest you pack your “stuff” and move down to Oakland and live among your favored people. Do some good for them rather than just bloviating in safe little white Nevada County. What a joke you are.

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Ben Emery

15 February 2014

Ok Fish,
Lets stick with your disgusting post.
“Hey look….A group of Bens peeps engaging in a ramndom act of community .service”
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/14/knock-that-white-boy-out-arrests-made-after-mob-of-teens-attack-disabled-vet/
I would argue your comment is a disgusting sarcastic joke. You are claiming it is irony. People being beaten and robbed isn’t funny, especially disabled people and by a group. The fact the racial slurs were part of it makes it even worse.
Lets break down the comment-
Hey look….A group of Bens peeps engaging in a ramndom act of community service.
A group of Bens peeps-
Peeps
1. people (often used to refer to a person’s friends or associates).
Community Service
1. voluntary work intended to help people in a particular area
So tell us how this comment was meant to be ironic?

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fish

15 February 2014

I would argue your comment is a disgusting sarcastic joke.
I’m sure you would.
You are claiming it is irony.
I am.

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fish

15 February 2014

Again as timely as todays headlines……
The Daily Mail specializes in police blotter stories, while the New York Times abstains from them … unless it’s a white guy victimizing a black. Then, a local story from a thousand miles away becomes Front Page News in the NYT.

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Gregory

15 February 2014

Ben… pay attention… how does some white people not liking black people cause black men to walk away from their “baby mommas” rather than marrying them?
Or do you think the decimation of the black family over the past half century has nothing to do with the incarceration rates of young black men?

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Todd Juvinall

15 February 2014

He won’t answer. He does not have the technology.

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Gregory

16 February 2014

The technology required is just a functioning browser and a path to the public internet. What he lacks is a demonstrated ability to think outside his usual boilerplate box.

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Todd Juvinall

16 February 2014

I posteted this on Pelline’s blog under his and TheFrisch’s ridiculous discussion on us in local politics. Note the comment is under “moderation” Too funny.
Todd Juvinall says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
February 16, 2014 at 3:35 pm
You two lovers crack me up. You have no clue about these things you are yapping about. Bit it does give us a laugh or two. Politics was a peaceful thing in Nevada County until the eco nuts started teo initiatives back in 1978 to stop all growth by limiting building permits to 100 per year. You should have seen their ads and their misinformation and personal attacks. Today’s stuff is milktoast.
When I ran for Supervisor (something you two chickens would never do) I was attacked relentlessly by mu opponent and her minions. All very nasty and persona;. I had one local attorney going door to door telling people some made up personal lies. But I won, I played it nice and cool. My opponent threw a party election night, well attended by all her pals, I would have loved to see their faces when the vote totals came in. Anyway, until you are the target of liberals you ain’t seen nothing yet. They are the nastiest, meanest piece of dog excrement. You to are wimps at best about all this. Toughen up you both are getting your checks. After election I received death threats, my cars brakes were tampered with and my kids were harassed in school. No, you two are just weak whiners, no backbones. Frisch is sun a wimp he won’;t send me his BOD contact info.
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Todd Juvinall

17 February 2014

Looks like the FUE is lying again. I am all over town a lot and have heard nothing but praise for George Boardman (I don’t know him) and his column at the Union, but the FUE is saying he needs to go. Sounds personal to me.
We should all send an email asking the Union to let Boardman have an additional column!

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Gregory

19 February 2014

Hot off the presses….
The FUE has had one (count them, one) comment on his blog since Tues at 11:37 am, and that was by the NU trustee he’s carrying water for over Boardman’s op-ed, the Facebook “friendwall” for the Boardman criticisms Pelline is touting. Pelline’s latest rants seem to have finally turned off even his biggest supporters.
Doug, Ben, Steven, Brad… your friend needs you.

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fish

19 February 2014

CURSE THOSE KOCH BROTHERS…..ALWAYS TRYING TO INFLUENCE POLITICS WITH THEIR MONEY……
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/S-F-billionaire-ready-to-spend-100-million-on-5246470.php

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Todd Juvinall

19 February 2014

Hey BenE and your pals. Look at the link fish has supplied. Now, do you think your fellow lib wants Citizens United to go?
The FUE had a comment from me but tossed it. I was responding to the Steve Frisch/Pelline pitty patty about “nasty campaigns”. The echo chamber over there doesn’t even have an echo! Too funny.

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Gregory

19 February 2014

Well, the dry spell for the FUE’s blog was broken a short while ago. Someone going by the handle “jeffpelline” wrote about what a class act Todd was.
I’m not sure that should count. Come on, FUE Friends, he needs you to chime in and demonstrate the FUE is more popular than Todd or Barry.

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Todd Juvinall

19 February 2014

Nobody likes him. My hits at my SDB are very high yet not many post a comment. They just read. I have people stop me on the street and tell me they read my blog. But the FUE is a place where a person can go and never be heard from again! LOL!

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Russ Steele

21 February 2014

This morning the FUE has decided to attack the Tea Party and Republican Women Federated. I wonder if he know how deep the cow pie is that he just stepped in?
“One-time “anointed” clerk-recorder Fran Freedle, who has been active in the California Federation of Republican Women, is sending around the emails as a “tea party leader.” To me, the Nevada County Federation of Republican Women and Nevada County Tea Party have practically morphed — a political travesty since GOPers come in different stripes. It offers real insight to the hard-right bent of our local Republican political groups, which has alienated some GOP moderates.”

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Barry Pruett

21 February 2014

“Some GOP moderates” means one GOP moderate.

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George Rebane

21 February 2014

Re RussS 824am – Thanks for the heads up on the latest interpretations from our Collimated Collectivist who specializes in the narrow and numb. For the record, the League of Women Voters long ago abandoned its once non-partisan approach to issues, and during the last decades has been a faithful voice of the Left. And also for the record, the Tea Party does not endorse candidates, in the same vein as the LWV does not endorse candidates. But that does not prevent members of both organizations to do so through their respective memberships in organizations that do endorse.

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