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George Rebane

Dr Tyler Cowen is professor of monetary theory, financial economics, and welfare economics at George Mason University and Mercatus Center .  He joins a growing list of academics and authors (cf Charles Murray’s Coming Apart) who have now concluded that systemic unemployment and permanent class divisions all will become entrenched features of our future.  To some of us such a future has been apparent for some years now as reported here.

The thesis of Cowen’s recently published Average is Over is “that America is dividing itself in two. At the top will be 10% to 15% of high achievers, the “Tiger Mother” kids if you like, whose self-motivation and mastery of technology will allow them to roar away into the future. Then there will be everyone else, slouching into an underfunded future of lower economic expectations, shantytowns and an endless diet of beans. I’m not kidding about the beans.” according to reviewer Philip Broughton (here).

Dr Cowen concludes that “we will move from a society based on the pretense that everyone is given an okay standard of living to a society in which people are expected to fend for themselves much more than they do now.”  In that future, the top 10% will continue to enjoy what we have come to call the ‘American dream’, the middle will continue to muddle on with stagnant or shrinking wages taking their comfort from “cheap education and cheap fun”.  But “the rest (Murray’s bottom 30%) will fall by the wayside, with government less and less able to take care of them.”

President Obama is deftly guiding the nation into default.  He will accept no alternative solution other than his diktat that the Republicans fold any remaining negotiating stance to save the nation from fiscal, monetary, and regulatory disaster.  Bolstered by Reid and Pelosi, the Dems have repeatedly refused to even consider any counter proposals that deviate from their ‘clean’ demands for continuing our country’s wreckless course.

OcareTaxRatesThe strongest evidence of this is the Left’s strong and constant opposition to passing the McClintock-Toomey ‘Full Faith and Credit Act’ that would guarantee that the US would never default on its debt obligation that Obama now threatens the world with multiple times a day.  “The McClintock-Toomey bill replicates the guarantees that state constitutions have had for hundreds of years to strengthen investor confidence. It gives the Treasury Secretary discretion to prioritize among other federal obligations until the political deadlock ends, tempers cool and the parties can reach a deal. But it makes his first priority to protect the full faith and credit of the U.S.”  While screaming about the dangers of default, the Dems have repeatedly killed this prudent measure, most recently as it was again included in the latest continuing resolution the House sent to the Senate last week.  (more here)

‘Obamacare wrecks the work ethic’, so argues Casey Mulligan (here), professor of economics at the University of Chicago.  Of the many horrors of this ‘affordable(sic) care act’ as it staggers toward single payer healthcare, possibly its worst consequence is “a reduction in the reward for working”.  The secret lies in what it will do to marginal tax rates (figure) –  “The health-care law, starting Jan. 1, will begin driving up marginal tax rates—well above 50% for many.”   Perhaps more than anything else, this will encourage increased effort and ingenuity expended to switch from being a maker to joining the ever-growing ranks of the takers.

Administrivia – Now TypePad has quit sending comment notification emails to its bloggers (at least this one).  This will require more work on my part to keep up with RR’s commenters.  A little slack will be appreciated while I am actively seeking to move the blog to WordPress as already suggested by several readers.  I have been woefully remiss.



[4oct13 update]  Reports are now pouring in of federeal facilities and recreational sites being patrolled by platoons of guards and other public employees to keep people from accessing them.  What is insulting to me as a citizen is that these same locations had no such security personnel on duty before the ‘shutdown’.  This sleazebag administration sets new records daily in lying and its practice of naked autocracy.  I find it hard to identify with people who either don’t care/know about this, or worse, they condone it and see nothing wrong in the practice.  (More on Barry Pruett’s Nevada County Introspective.)

Oh yes, and the other lying claptrap coming out of the WH is Obama’s positioning budget and debt limit negotiations as somehow an immoral or underhanded attempt by Republicans to introduce a new dimension into American governance.  Nothing, absolutely nothing, could be further from the truth as noted here before.  A piece today by Hassett and McCloskey (here) makes clear that “Congresses run by both parties have used the borrowing limit as political leverage with a president.”

[5oct13 update]  A liberal commenter here argues persuasively that the reason the Dems don’t accept any of the Repub passed House bills to refund the government is that they contain proposals and actions which the Dems don’t like – well no s&!t Red Ryder!  However, the brain blinders are strapped on immediately by these same members of the National Association of Naifs when the Repubs argue similarly about adopting the Dem demands to forward with a “clean CR” for the President’s signature.

Obama’s overture to America, painting the Repubs as immoral (‘terrorists’?) and obtuse since they refuse his offer to negotiate AFTER they give him a clean CR and raise the debt limit, is the epitome of calling his constituents double dummies.  This he does that several times a day now; and he’s spot on since the double dummies are not throwing this argument back in his face.

Most of us learned in kindergarten that differences are settled by compromise – each party participates in a ‘give and take’.  What the double dummies have forgotten is that if the Repubs give up their opposition to an unconditional continuing resolution and debt limit increase, then they have nothing left to give that Team Obama values when the parties enter subsequent negotiations.  It’s like being invited to a gunfight with the proviso that first you leave your six-gun at home.  Negotiating such instruments of funding government was written into the very fabric of the Constitution and has been practiced for decades.  (There is an excellent and extensive graphic on pA4 of the 5oct13 WSJ
print edition detailing the last 20-year history of debt limit
negotiations and increases showing who dominated Congress and the WH,
and the major points negotiated.  Apologies for not being able to find
it online.)

However, given the generations of government educated masses since the Great Society (aka the above cited double dummies), such knowledge in America is as arcane as the contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls.  Truth to these people is only that which is recent, repeated, vocal, and preferably on an up volume video.  And truths no longer have to be remembered or recalled, since they will be supplied as needed with new ones tomorrow.

(As long argued here, those who know will understand that debt, and more importantly debt service, is the real threat to the country.  The rest is a sideshow as Niall Ferguson argues here in the 5oct13 WSJ.)

[6oct13 update]  Check out Russ Steele’s new blog Sierra Foothills Commentary.  In the latest edition Russ posts and important piece from The Daily Beast titled ‘California’s New Feudalism Benefits a Few at the Expense of the Multitude’ which makes the case that “once famous as a land of opportunity, the Golden State
is now awash in inequality, growing poverty, and downward mobility
that’s practically medieval,”  Everyone knows of California’s downfall, it is not limited to the intelligentsia, or to the US, but is common knowledge around the developed world.  People ascribe different reasons for our downfall, but the accepted wisdom is that California is in the toilet both economically and socially.

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214 responses to “Ruminations – 3oct13 (updated 6oct13)”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Fedor. Gooood Morning! So glad you enjoy my musings. Unstable? Oh sir, you don’t even know the 10th of it. Yes, I 100% buy into the Mantra. I am a boney-fide shrill for the 1%ers and smaller gobberment and red states. I can pose for a family portrait all by my lonesome.
    Ain’t going to call Barrack Hussein Obama a Mooslum. Obama said he is a Christian and I have no reason to doubt Reverend Jeremiah Wright or Obama’s conversion to Black Theology. I’ll let our Prez throw Reverend Wright under to bus. No need for me to go there.
    Dems fault? Now, now, lets not project. The Dems have a knack for forming the old circular firing squad and the Repubs can snatch defeat out of the mouth of victory.
    A major difference I see between the Dems and the Repubs is that when one of their own messes up, the Repubs are the first to clean house and banish the chap. Usually in a matter of 2-3 days. When one of the Dems messes up, he is defended for months, then when the heat gets too much in the kitchen, they finally throw the errant one in the oven and proceed to eat their own. Savage beasts them Dems are. Ruthless.

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  2. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “thoughts about how the areas that receive the most Federal assistance, and have the lowest education, are red states?”
    The key word here is “education”. Those with lower levels of education are less likely to possess the critical thinking skills to process and evaluate messages, and therefore, are more easily fooled by propaganda and rhetoric, particularly when issues of patriotism are invoked as in “America love it or leave it” type arguments. Did not the Nazi Party invoke “patriotism” as their mantra? The people who ran the gas houses thought they were doing their duty to the fatherland rather than committing crimes against humanity. How could any human being participate in such atrocity, unless they were dumber than a rock and somehow convinced they were doing the right thing? Ideological surety is a dangerous thing as it closes the mind to possible alternatives.

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  3. Gerry Fedor Avatar
    Gerry Fedor

    Clean house or banish the chap? Is that what you’re saying? You surely jest! LOL!!!
    I find that rather “laughable” as if the right worked as the left does (in your world) there would be NO ONE in the Congress as the people that are currently blocking legislation to keep your government running.
    “We’re not going to be disrespected,” conservative Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., [told the Washington Examiner]. “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”
    Now what is the plan? You seem to know what’s going on sir, so maybe you can share this “top secret plan” with the rest of us?
    Like I said before sometimes it’s better to STFU before you open your mouth and embariss yourself: as here’s a world famous quote from one of your most recent parties heros…
    Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you… rape victims should make the best of a bad situation.” – January, 2012
    I wonder how most people with a vagina feel about this?
    You seem to be wearing blinders sir, may I suggest you go back out to the woodshed and hang them back up there, as if this was true then how come we have people that are “afraid” of other people in the Republican party and they don’t want to say anything to put the Republican party back into the mainstream of American Politics?
    It’s pretty obvious that my right will see huge losses in the next elections as they are the “gift that keeps on giving” to the Democratic movement.

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Rick Santorum: “I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created — in the sense of rape — but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you… rape victims should make the best of a bad situation.” – January, 2012
    How is this bad advice? As a catholic he can’t endorse abortion. I’m the last guy in the world who would defend Santorum but taken as presented here what’s the matter with the statement?

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Funny how libs use a defeated conservative like Santorum (defeated by fellow conservatives to boot) as sme sort of example for all. I guess in a tit for tat Elliott Spitzed is a typical democrat?

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Fedor, I suppose the Right may see huge losses in the next election cycle. Always a possibility. Many possibilities. Not wise to remove one’s armor before the battle begins.
    “Like I said before sometimes it’s better to STFU before you open your mouth and embariss yourself”
    Mr. Fedor, how silly. You can’t “embariss” a sociopath such as moi. Impossible my good man. Impossible. Shaming don’t work either. But if you feel inclined to wag your finger at me and do your best Clinton impression, knock yourself out. “Now listen here” (start waving the finger with righteous indignation)……”I did not have sex with THAT woman.” Now, really point the finger right at me and give it the ole wag. Feel better? I am such a worm.
    Think calling the young intern about his daughter’s age “THAT WOMAN” was a grievous lapse of judgement. She may have gobbled Bill’s goob just fine, but never call a lover “That Woman”. Never. Stupid mistake. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
    Aw, nobody is perfect.

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Santorum was defeated by Romney, hardly a Conservative in these circles. Elliot Spitzer never was a contender for the Pres.

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  8. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    The Mighty Tozer wrote: “She may have gobbled Bill’s goob just fine, but never call a lover ‘That Woman.’ Never. Stupid mistake. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”
    Dood, you come up with delicious phraseology gems each and every day here at RR, but this is one of your finest. I would tip my hat to you if I had a hat.
    Clinton cured me of the Democratic Party. He produces an amazingly thick and putrid inoculum, but it works like badger castoreum to keep me away.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul, sorry you don’t understand the election process, and apparently the primary process. Santorum did not win the primary process becasue the conservative voters (the one’s that turn out for the primaries) did not elect him. Understand?
    Spitzer is a good democrat and was the Governor of the second largest state. Like Weiner and others they are and have become the poster children of the democrat party. They are true believers. makes no difference if they ran for President. Capiche?

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  10. Bill Tozxer Avatar
    Bill Tozxer

    Now what is so bad about dog poop? It decomposes and enriches the soil. Organic as well. And what is so bad about PBS fundraising?
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-worse-cockroaches-witches-poll-173552610.html

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    The Mighty Tozer wrote: “She may have gobbled Bill’s goob just fine, but never call a lover ‘That Woman.’ Never. Stupid mistake. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”
    Dood, you come up with delicious phraseology gems each and every day here at RR, but this is one of your finest. I would tip my hat to you if I had a hat.
    Clinton cured me of the Democratic Party. He produces an amazingly thick and putrid inoculum, but it works like badger castoreum to keep me away.

    Boys…..what the hell has been dumped into the water supply in the sierra foothills…..or have Michael and Bill simply been beating each other about the head and shoulders with Thesauruses?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    If you really want to slurp up the slime you can look at Newt. Bonking his Secretary while his wife in the hospital with cancer.
    Ex wife Marianne says Gingrich wanted an “open marriage,” so he could have both a wife and a mistress.
    He’s on his third marriage, and was accused of not only affairs in the first two, but also that he left one wife while she was fighting cancer, and he left another just after she was diagnosed with MS. Now that’s class.

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    “In terms of the closures. who determined it and how was it decided as to what should be closed and what shouldn’t? Is there a protocol in place, was it random, was it part of a previous agreement?” -Koyote
    It’s pure pettiness designed to get people mad at the GOP.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for-shutdown

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  14. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, the Newt’s wife with cancer was dumped after her curative surgery.
    She was his math teacher in high school, so you might give him a pass on that one. It might have seemed a good idea at the time, but… let’s just hope Newt learned some math from her.

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Speaking of Obama’s closures, out of what appears pure spite, the man has closed down the SS information and Dept of Education sites with a sign that reads “Due to a lapse of appropriations and the partial shutdown of the Federal Government, the systems that host nces.ed.gov have been shut down. Services will be restored as soon as a continuing resolution to provide funding has been enacted.”
    Now do you suppose that the feds have also shut down the servers and the comm lines into the cloud? Nah! The marginal cost of keeping the government’s info sites on line is about zero. All they want to do is to impress the double dummies about how evil the GOP is. And he’s succeeding, even some astute RR readers have no quarrel with such a policy.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar

    Yes George, they are succeeding beyond their wildest expectations . The self destructiveness of the Republicans is unbelievable. It’s only the 25% that you are a part of that support the shut down.
    “Do you consider yourself to be a supporter of the Tea Party movement, or not?”
    CBS News Poll. Oct. 1-2, 2013. N=1,021 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3. RV = registered voters
    10/1-2/13 Yes 21 no 67 undecided 12
    http://www.pollingreport.com/politics.htm

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  17. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, this was from early 2012:
    “The Gallup poll shows that 40 percent of Americans consider themselves conservative; 35 percent moderate; and 21 percent view themselves as liberal.”
    So it would seem to indicate “tea party” is at the same place as “liberal” when it comes to speaking for the electorate, doesn’t it?

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    Conservative is a different bird than Tea Party. You know that.

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  19. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, you missed the issue… Conservatives were about 40% on that poll, and it appears that about half the conservatives are also TP, and that TP group is about the same size as self described liberals.
    Face it, Paul: if self described Tea Partiers are fringe nutcases, so are self described Liberals.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    It’s pure pettiness designed to get people mad at the GOP.
    Well it appears to be failing…..
    From the Newburyport News via Drudge.
    ‘Gestapo’ tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone
    The tourists were treated harshly by armed park employees, she said, so much so that some of the foreign tourists with limited English skills thought they were under arrest.
    The bus stopped along a road when a large herd of bison passed nearby, and seniors filed out to take photos. Almost immediately, an armed ranger came by and ordered them to get back in, saying they couldn’t “recreate.” The tour guide, who had paid a $300 fee the day before to bring the group into the park, argued that the seniors weren’t “recreating,” just taking photos.
    “She responded and said, ‘Sir, you are recreating,’ and her tone became very aggressive,” Vaillancourt said.

    The political commercials are going to write themselves this election cycle and it’s going to be absolutely glorious!
    That reminded her of her father, a World War II veteran who spent three years in a Japanese prisoner of war camp.
    “My father took a lot of crap from the Japanese,” she recalled, her eyes welling with tears. “Every day they made him bow to the Japanese flag. But he stood up to them.
    “He always said to stand up for what you believe in, and don’t let them push you around,” she said, adding she was sad to see “fear, guns and control” turned on citizens in her own country.

    http://www.newburyportnews.com/local/x1442580373/Gestapo-tactics-meet-senior-citizens-at-Yellowstone

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    In no way can you describe Obama as a Liberal. He’s a middle of the road right leaning Democrat and is in a better position to capture the middle support that is essential to perpetuate control. There is no way the Tea Party or the Republican Right can claim that real estate. Poll after poll shows Obama with twice the public support than the Republican Congress which is around 16%. That’s why ’16 will be a cakewalk for the Dems and they could likely gain seats in an off year election which is very rare. In short, the Dems control the middle and are solidifying that position due to the astounding idiocy of the Pubbers. It’s actually unbelievable tut here you have it.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Greg you are right on the mark.. PaulE is as accurate with his political descriptions as he says I am with soothsaying elections. Too funny.

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  23. Gregory Avatar

    “National Journal is out with its ratings of the votes of the members of the Senate, and it has found that the most liberal senator in 2007 was Barack Obama.
    “The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate,” National Journal notes.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-3775451-502163.html

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    That was 2007. Obama’s support of NSA spying on American citizens his health care solution, his caving in on environmental causes, Gitmo, Drone attacks on and on are not liberal positions.
    ” But on Friday, political scientist Keith Poole released a study that probably cheered the White House. According to his highly respected classification system, Obama is the most moderate Democratic president since World War II. Which raises a question: How can Obama simultaneously be one of the most divisive and most moderate presidents of the past century?”
    http://voteview.com/blog/?p=317

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 310pm – Great positioning of Obama, “middle of the road right leaning Democrat” – wow! Perhaps you could send a short email to the WH.
    With the certitude with which you’ve already decided the election, do you care to give any odds on the 2014 election? the 2016 election? You should be able to rake it in, starting with my money. Slam dunk.
    And re your 418pm, I think we’re going to see a lot of ‘commentators’ and political analysts who will be using a lot of ink to move Obama back toward the center from now on. Don’t look at what Obama’s doing behind the curtain, keep reading those analysts for the true story.

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  26. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, he’s as left as he can be. Any further and he’d completely lose the electorate, 80% of whom are to the right of Liberal.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar

    “Barack Obama’s overseas trip this past week proved “he’s not a left-wing ideologue” or a “dove” and, “if anything, he’s center, even center-right, on foreign policy issues,” Bloomberg News world affairs columnist Fred Kempe, a veteran of the Wall Street Journal, declared on this weekend’s Political Capital show”
    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/07/27/bloombergs-fred-kempe-obama-center-right-foreign-policy#ixzz2hAy0byfC

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar

    I have to repeat myself
    Obama’s support of NSA spying on American citizens his health care solution, his caving in on environmental causes, Gitmo, Drone attacks on and on are not liberal positions.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Obama’s support of NSA spying on American citizens his health care solution…….
    Rumor has it the NSA spying on American citizens is part of his health care solution.
    http://reason.com/24-7/2013/10/08/obamacare-marketplace-info-may-be-shared

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  30. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, Orwell’s Big Brother wasn’t a conservative, and the NSA was started by a Democratic president and congress.
    Coercive utopians nowadays are on the Left; hadn’t you noticed?

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    I cited so called left causes and illustrated Obama’s positions. What more do you need? I’ll provide it.

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  32. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, your myopia is showing.
    His governing positions are, in general, as left as he can make them. He’s the same between the ears as he was when he was a community organizer, working with Bill Ayres in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, in the Illinois legislature courtesy the Ayres, and in the Senate.
    Do you really think a switch got flipped by the Presidency that made him a moderate as he was asserting Federal control over all health care in the USA?

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 527pm – Paul, you have again demonstrated the Great Divide. Your logic on the Left’s eschewing the functions and means of autocracy are mind boggling. Obama “caving on environmental causes” is window dressing for the sheeple. This president, like no other, has used and continues to use the EPA, HUD, DoJ, … to end run laws of the land and Congress in ruling by executive fiat. Only his far left progressive chorus is totally blind to that, and continues to offer nitpicks to the sheeple as ‘proof’ that fundamental transformation is not happening.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar

    Chomsky on Obama Nuff said
    MIT professor and widely renowned scholar Noam Chomsky said on Thursday that President Barack Obama is “basically what would have been called several decades ago, a moderate Republican.”
    His comments came during an interview with The Young Turks’ Cenk Uygur.
    Chomsky went on to say that Obama was “kind of a mainstream centrist with some concerns for liberal ideas and conceptions, but not much in the way of principal or commitment.” Chomsky told Uygur that he regarded the president’s stance on some issues as “pretty reactionary,” offering civil liberties as an example.”

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar

    Amy Goodman on Obama
    President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have used the Espionage Act six times to prosecute whistle-blowers — more than all previous presidents combined. Obama’s assault on journalism and his relentless war on whistle-blowers are serious threats to fundamental democratic principles on which this nation was founded. The job of journalists is to hold those in power accountable. Our job is to be the fourth estate, not “for the state.” Let us be.

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Emery. Good evening sir. Your last post quoting Amy Goodman is spot on. Looking at her quote/analysis, would you say Obama is leaning Left, Right or Totalitarian?.
    First thing young Castro did up in the hills was capture the radio station. Last year Obama and Holder spied not only on a journalist, but tapped his Daddy’s phone and hacked his phone e-mail’s as well. And his lady’s cell phone. The journalist was threatened with trumped up charges, but since the journalist was never formerly charged, Holden claims no harm, no foul. Nothing to see here, move on.
    Well maybe no harm no foul to this present Administration, but the message is clear.
    Something as “uncontroversial” as a local station in Colorado doing a story on the taxpayer costs of The Obama family vacation in Colorado and flying the Obamas and their dog (separate flight for Fido) from the Bahamas to hit the slopes in Colorado and extend their vacation another week, well that was a big Bozo no-no. The station manager backed the reporters 100% up because the reporting was accurate and verified by several sources. Not a political hit piece, more of a dollars and sense piece. Having the slopes cleared out and only the Secret Service skiing most of the time was something the Obama political consultants deemed not ready for prime time. Very costly to buy up the ski slopes in Aspen or Vail. The story ran once. The station manager got a call from the owners who got a call from the White House. Message was clear. Shut it down. Do not run that story again. Plus, the station had to turn over all the tapes to the Men in Black. Seems the station is up for re-licensing. No harm, no foul. Nothing to see here, absolutely nothing.
    So, Mr. Paul, is Obama lib, Middle, Right, or copying the Great Father in Pyongan, the capital of The Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea??

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar

    Bill
    So if Obama is such radical Leftist why are such outspoken Lefties as Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman so disillusioned with him?

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    re PaulE’s 811pm – from my 601pm, “Only his far left progressive chorus is totally blind to that, and continues to offer nitpicks to the sheeple as ‘proof’ that fundamental transformation is not happening.”

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  39. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Mister Tozer,
    Obama has become a fascist President, out of necessity, just like every president since Nixon (Carter excluded). It’s in the the job description, and I have to say that he has done a very good job accommodating his “community organizer” constituency while still making the small wing of civil servant fascists somewhat happy. A huge bridge to gap.
    Good on ya, my Kenyan brother!
    That being said, calling him a socialist is completely silly. I know it makes a lot of people who hate black people feel good about themselves, but it is just plain inaccurate.
    M.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Paul Emery:
    “So if Obama is such radical Leftist why are such outspoken Lefties as Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman so disillusioned with him?”
    Exactly my point, albeit we gleam different conclusions. You say he is pulling a Clinton and moving to the center. Clinton was hated by the far left because he believed in capital punishment.
    I say he is moving in the footsteps of those who lust after absolute control, following the path of those that ruthlessly suppress any opposition, real or imagined. Think it is also called repression.
    So, again, would you pigeon hole our Prez as Left, Right, Middle, or Totalitarian? Definitely not Libertarian, IMHO.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    This is getting silly! Are you saying that Amy G and Noam C are being deceived by Obama to think he’s nor really a radical lefty but somehow he really is? I don’t get what you’re saying? Can you help me out?
    By the way, the EPA was started by a Republican, Richard Nixon. Yesterdays pubbers would be todays radical lefties.

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Anderson. How are you this fine evening? Guess you did not choose me to be your new BFF since I have not received a friendship ring or a nice funny card in the mail. Nor an invite to your slumber party.
    “calling him a socialist is completely silly.”
    Mr Anderson, Mr Anderson. I do not think it is silly at all and I think it is quite accurate. Tell me, kind sir, what is the mind set of your typical community organizer? Why are they out there in front of bankers’ homes demanding they be given something, that the rules be laxed for them to make it fair. Why do most community organizers spend a lot of time shaking down evil businesses to get money from the rich and give it to the poor…er…after the organizer and his/her buddies get their cut plus overhead. Social empowerment is all well and good, but darn it, that guy over there needs to kick down some greenies…to us! I would say Obama is wrought with socialistic leanings at the minimum.

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  43. Gerry Fedor Avatar
    Gerry Fedor

    Bill I could never figure out that Bill Clinton goop gobbling episode too, as if you ask any woman I know if I put my penis into your mouth is that sex?
    We’re all smart enough to know that 99.9999999% of women would call it sex! LOL!!!
    Nope. I’m not an Obama fan, or Obamacare fan, but this is still right on!
    Oct 2008: “You’ll never get elected and pass healthcare.”
    Nov 2008: “We’ll never let you pass healthcare.”
    Jan 2009: “We’re gonna shout you down every time you try to pass healthcare.”
    July 2009: “We’ll fight to death every attempt you make to pass healthcare.”
    Dec 2009: “We will destroy you if you even consider passing healthcare.”
    March 2010: “We can’t believe you just passed healthcare.”
    April 2010: “We are going to overturn healthcare.”
    Sept 2010: “We are going to repeal healthcare.”
    Jan 2011: “We are going to destroy healthcare.”
    Feb 2012: “We’re gonna elect a candidate who’ll revoke healthcare NOW.”
    June 2012: “We’ll go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare.”
    Aug 2012: “American people’ll never re-elect you-they don’t want healthcare.”
    Oct 2012: “We can’t wait to win the election and explode healthcare.”
    Nov 2012: “We can’t believe you got re-elected & we can’t repeal healthcare.”
    Feb 2013: “We’re still going to vote to obliterate healthcare.”
    June 2013: “We can’t believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare.”
    July 2013: “We’re going to vote like 48 more times to erase healthcare wasting tons of time and money by not addressing issues such as the debt issue.”
    Sept 2013: “We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare.”
    Oct 2013: “WHY AREN’T YOU NEGOTIATING?”
    I think that timeline sums up the whole issue…..

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    GerryF 1125pm – That timeline may be true enough, but it does highlight that there is at least one political party that saw through the insanity that Obamacare has turned out to be. This litany is apropos to RR’s recent companion pieces on national ignorance – e.g. how come the lamestream is not headlining (reporting?) the CBO’s announcement that Obamacare will require an additional funding of $2.5T over the next ten years; that instead of the ballyhooed and bamboozled promise that this socialist pill will save us money?

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  45. Gregory Avatar

    Fedor, and it will continue. For one thing, had the program now in place actually been honestly described, even Pelosi’s Democrats would have run to the hills rather than pass it. People aren’t able to keep their doctors, their insurance plan, no one besides the ‘preexisting condition’ cases are seeing lower prices and 29.5 hours a week is becoming the new normal.
    Moynihan was right; big programs like HillaryCare or ObamaCare need to pass with a 70/30 bipartisan mandate, not 51/49 partisan squeakers that make it only with arms twisted to their breaking points.
    Obamacare will be a success if they can convince the current 20 and 30 somethings to ignore their own self interest and pay through the nose for medical insurance in order to subsidize their parents. We shall see. Personally, I expect they’ll balk. In the meantime, we have the CR Kabuki playing in DC.
    Here’s a view on the National Parklands closures:
    “I hopped in my car this morning, and went to explore Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area, the closest National Park Service managed public land to my house.
    We got out to the park, and I anticipated all services would be shut down, no employees on duty, and open access to the park.
    Well, I was half right. All the services were shuttered, and non-essential personnel were sent home.
    It turns out essential personnel were still there. And those essential personnel were Park Rangers armed with assault rifles, wearing bullet proof vests, and blocking access to the park road. So the parks didn’t just “close” during this Federal Government shut down. No, instead the Parks are paying federal employees to stand around at the entrance gate, dressed like commandos and enforcing a closure.
    It doesn’t sound so much like a park closure as it does as the government restricting the public access to their own lands.”

    http://www.famousinternetskiers.com/sorry-were-closed-says-the-national-park-service/

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    I still need a clarification from you re my 8:57 question. I’m really scratching my had over this since if Obama is truely the radical Lefty you describe why is he not supported by that group? I

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  47. Gregory Avatar

    “I’m really scratching my had over this since if Obama is truely the radical Lefty you describe why is he not supported by that group?”
    They wanted more than they got.

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar

    So Gregory he’s kinda of a Lefty light not the radical lefty George describes.

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