112 responses to “Living in Obamastan – what’s not to like?”

1. 

   Videodrone

   13 May 2013

   and the IRS is in charge of Obamacare?
   starting with his “office of the president elect”
   returning the bust of Churchill
   suggesting disabled vets get their own medical insurance
   an iPod with his speeches for the queen – DVD’s for the prime minister that are wrong region & format
   vacations
   golf
   vacations
   golf
   been able to buy any ammo?

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   Paul Emery

   13 May 2013

   Obama’s before and after record is chump change compared to Bush’s who started with a surplus, ended with an economic collapse and massive defecit, two unfunded continuing wars, was asleep at the wheel during 9/11 after ignoring CIA warnings of upcoming attacks and the Patriot act just for a start. Of course Obama’s not done yet but that’s a tough record to overcome.

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   Walt

   13 May 2013

   One more item to add to the list.
   “Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe”
   Hell… Even “in the tank” media isn’t safe anymore from getting violated by
   “O” and Co.
   As I recall,, Nixon was run out of office for less.
   The term ” impeachment” has come up more and more as the day grows.

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   Paul Emery

   13 May 2013

   There is nothing the Dems would welcome more than an attempt to impeach Obama. It there is a God and Impeachment does happen it would be proof that God is a Democrat. It would be a gift from heaven for sure.

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   Gregory

   13 May 2013

   The latest is that the Feds combed through the work and personal phone records of a bunch of Associated Press reporters.
   The halo may be tarnished.
   Forget about the I-word unless the GOP takes the Senate in 2014 and Biden wants a head start…

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6. 

   Russ Steele

   13 May 2013

   I would add:
   14. Military – Created a politically correct military that was unable to remove a rogue muslim terrorist for their ranks, unable to deal with growing suicide in the ranks, unable to stem the growing sexual abuse in uniform, all by hobbling the creation of true military leadership from the top down.

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7. 

   Scott Obermuller

   13 May 2013

   Paul, there was no Clinton surplus. We’ve been through this before. Clinton came to office with an improving economy and left us with an increased fed debt level and a declining economy. There are many web sites that explain it, but this one will do:
   http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
   Bush is no longer in office. Oblabber is. Please try to deal with reality.
   I don’t care about impeachment or who the president is. I’m far more worried about a know-nothing lap dog news media and an electorate that can’t find the opening in their rear end with both hands. We are sailing into a very sad place both domestically and internationally and all the Paul E.s of the world just want to have legalized drugs and blame Bush. Have a nice day!

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   Paul Emery

   13 May 2013

   Scott
   If there was no Clinton surplus then there’s more reason to dump on Bush because he gave billions back to taxpayers claiming there was one. It was a major part of his campaign promise during the 2000 election. This is Bush’s own words as he told a joint session of Congress on February 27, 2001, “You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and on their behalf, I am here asking for a refund.”
   http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/05/10/Why-Republicans-Really-Love-Budget-Deficits.aspx#page1

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9. 

   Todd Juvinall

   13 May 2013

   So PaulE, there was a debt of what 5 trillion when Bush took office? So it appears to me there was no surplus. Also the dotcom bubble had burst (ubder Clinton) and we were in a mild recession if I recall. Then 8-11 and the stock market lost one trillion buck in one day. Yep, you still have BDS.
   We think on the right there is enough blame to go around.

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10. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 May 2013

    Hey, lets not forget that Osama (Arab goat porn) Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive. Ain’t it grand the hurricane stopped blowing?

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11. 

    Paul Emery

    13 May 2013

    Todd
    You’re right. that was a deficit inherited from the Reagan-Bush 1 economic debacle. Actually the National Debt was going down under Clinton and yes Newt. There was a surplus from the previous years before Bush that Clinton used to pay down the debt. Bush lowered taxes and returned the surplus to the taxpayers rather than paying down the debt and as is typical under Republican administrations, the total debt soared. This is history.
    Just to review, the deficit went from 1 to four trillion (4x) under Reagan-Bush l, rose to 5.6 under Clinton but was declining in the last two years then soared to 10.7 under Bush ll. Bush ll doubled the deficit something that Obama has yet to accomplish though he might before he’s done.

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    Paul Emery

    13 May 2013

    Oh yes, documentation
    http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm

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13. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 May 2013

    Yep, well Bush did it to. Why don’t you pick on him too, Daddy? Sounds like a couple of whinny kids. Every time a childish adult gets the finger pointed at him/her, the immediate response is to point the finger at someone else. I knew instantly when I simply saw the title of Dr. Rebane’s piece that some one would say right off the bat that Bush did it too!!. So predictable. I was not disappointed. Yawn. I thought the subject at hand was President B Hussein Obama.

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14. 

    Russ Steele

    13 May 2013

    While we are comparing things: http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/the-panopticon-president
    “Obama is personally obsessed with leaks, to the extent that his second chief of staff, Bill Daley, took as one of his central mandates a major and ill-fated plumbing expedition. Attorney General Eric Holder, who pressed the leak policy, is a trusted Obama insider.” Sounds familiar.

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    Paul Emery

    13 May 2013

    Bill
    Why limit it to Obama’s incompetence? There’s so much competition from recent history. Georges blat is his personal opinion and not much else since he makes no attempt to document anything he says. Yes, “its my party and I’ll cry if I want to”. It would be more interesting to examine the failure of our government in general over the last 25 years rather than single out the latest pretender.
    For example
    6. Afghanistan – confusion, withdrawal guaranteed to leave region unstable, wasted sacrifices, Taliban will triumph, …
    What would you do George? Leave American troops there indefinitely?
    We can go point by point if you like.

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16. 

    Gregory

    13 May 2013

    Have Germany, Japan and Korea been stabilized yet? How about the Philippines?
    It’s Bush’s fault will be the story as long as Gore voters live. Kerry voters, too; both groups still harbor ill will for Bush doing a better job of stealing the elections back after their attempted thefts.
    /sarc

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17. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 May 2013

    Not necessary to go point by point there Paul. I admit lately I get turned off by distracting points when I really want to learn more about the topic. Plus my hands are not bloodless in this deflect and distract strategy.
    I was really hoping somebody would jump on Obamacare cause there is a wealth of new infor about bad omens and dark clouds gathering over 2014 and beyond. Obamacare is a downright unworkable plan with the costs skyrocketing to at least 4 times the projected total cost, which ain’t nothing new in Washington.
    Iran interests me greatly, as well as parts of Northern Africa. Actually our policy in Central Africa is of great interest, yet nary a peep in the news about it so nobody knows what is going on. Big time mercenary and spy stuff, but I digress.
    The economy is still bouncing along the bottom and the American culture is rapidly changing so fast that I would not be surprised if chanting “USA,USA,USA” will soon be called racist, a hate crime, offensive, or xenophobic. Guess we can’t talk about them all due to space constraints. Besides, the White House press secretary was still blaming Bush as of last Friday. Wasn’t the last campaign slogan named “Forward”?

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18. 

    Gregory

    13 May 2013

    The latest on the IRS fun and games:
    “Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved with investigating conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear that the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.”
    The WP has been wanting another Nixon to kick around for nearly 40 years. Gotta love the sharks in a frenzy.

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19. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 May 2013

    Oh yeah, I forget to document the White House Press Deflector blaming Bush. And yes, an opinion piece is not proof it actually happened to the purist out there.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/05/11/carney-hit-by-46-questions-on-benghazi-irs-scandals/?intcmp=obnetwork

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20. 

    George Rebane

    13 May 2013

    PaulE 1000pm – Get a grip, this is ‘Rebane’s Ruminations’ and the topic is Obamastan, another name for our country being on its ass. You can start your own blog and go down memory lane any time you want to, but with this post I’m listing the tawdry record of our current president. And do I have to solve the problems that the feds have got the country into? I think not. There are thousands of them in Washington and other places paid the big bucks (to which I make a very solid contribution) to sort things out.
    But as a citizen taxpayer who did not vote for that dipstick, I am perfectly able to criticize and offer alternatives which may or not hold water – I don’t get classified briefings multiple times a day, and instead have to make do with what our esteemed Fourth Estate of critical thinking cretins is able to dig out.

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21. 

    Bill Tozer

    13 May 2013

    Why stop at Nixon? What about the Teapot Dome Scandal? Don’t you care?? And that drunkard Grant and that opium junkie Thomas Jefferson. Forget our current nation and lets focus on Vlad the Impaler. Now, there was a dude who knew a thing or two about Homeland Security.

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22. 

    TheMikeyMcD

    14 May 2013

    Clinton was lucky (in more ways than one), Bush was unlucky (and for sale to highest bidder) and Obama is inept (economically, socially, spiritually, as a leader, etc ).
    I see a trend. The travesty that is Obamacare, tax increases, increasing regulation, Federal Reserve actions [inflation], insane amounts of debt, lies, scandals, multiple [undeclared] wars, increased class war fare….. that is Obama’s legacy.

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23. 

    TheMikeyMcD

    14 May 2013

    Obama’s approval rating would be below 12% if we had objective journalism.
    When you platform is based on a foundation of hate/envy it is hard to be a winner.

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24. 

    Bill Tozer

    14 May 2013

    Well now that I got that off my chest, I reread Dr. Rebane’s short list. Funny how Benjhazi, Solyndra, Fast & Furious, IRS henchmen after conservative groups are pooh-poohed as non-issues by bellyaching disgruntled Right Wing Extremists who can’t grasp the fact that they lost and a half black man is President. But, have the Justice Department pour over private cell phone records of AP reporters and suddenly Obama is compared to Nixon.
    This is too funny. Even heard one commentator saying one of the articles of impeachment that the Congressional Committee drew up against Richard Milhouse Nixon was misuse of the IRS, aka, misuse of power. Nixon had his enemies list and wanted to find out what the Dems were planning in the election and nobody was killed. Heck, I even got my photo snapped protesting Nixon by his Secret Service agents and I smiled broadly for the camera wearing my camos. But in Watergate nobody died, even with J Edgar Hoover running the Justice Department.
    Back to Dr. Rebane’s article. Yes, the US has lost more prestige in the world. Its not like the French dissing us and “losing respect” because of Bush. Oh my, don’t the French love us and everybody? No, its all the Ahabs in the world and numerous foreign leaders that call Obama an amateur and laugh all the way to the bank after taking our money. Thought having the new President would restore our respect in the world. Well, respect is earned, not given. Duh. But we are still the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry bin.
    Our President certainly does not like this tyranny talk going around. Probably hates it. His grand plans to transform America as we know it does have some folks like me using the dreaded T word. Not treacherous, T for tyranny. Wonder why that word keeps popping up? Very odd. I think I will ask some AP writer or Joe the Plumber who had is taxes scrutinized and published or all the Tea Party donors who just got audited. That is change we can believe in, count on, and see more of.

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25. 

    fish

    14 May 2013

    But, have the Justice Department pour over private cell phone records of AP reporters and suddenly Obama is compared to Nixon.
    Hell hath no fury like a woman the popular media scorned. If Team Red has any sense…not likely…they’ll let this “lovers quarrel” proceed without any help at all.
    I look forward to an entertaining summer.

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26. 

    Ben Emery

    14 May 2013

    Obama isn’t missing a step in continuing the policies of his predecessors. American global military/ political hegemony is ugly, destructive, and immoral.
    If Obama is the symbol of “Hope” in America and the Republican Party is the counter to it, we are all screwed.

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    14 May 2013

    Yeah Ben. That’s the crack in the Cathedral with most of this crowd. Most vote consistently for R’s yet blame everything on the Dems ignorant of the fact that they are really one and the same institution with slight diversity for social issues to make it look like there are differences. It’s kinda innocent I think somewhat genetic but really not very interesting or enlightening.

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28. 

    fish

    14 May 2013

    Ooooh….the plot thickens!
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/14/Progressive-Group-Says-IRS-Gave-Them-Confidential-Docs-On-Conservative-Groups
    I thought that only a heartless monster like Dick Cheney would stoop so low…..certainly not the “Lightworker” (google it. The Schadenfreude is delicious) currently serving as chief executive.

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29. 

    bill tozer

    14 May 2013

    Ben, kindly pass me the Vaseline when you are through. Its going to be a long hot summer.

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30. 

    fish

    14 May 2013

    Most vote consistently for R’s yet blame everything on the Dems ignorant of the fact that they are really one and the same institution with slight diversity for social issues to make it look like there are differences.
    And yet you seem duty bound to defend Team O (current front man for Team Dem) and denigrate Team B (former front man for Team Rep). Your argument would be more convincing if Team D earned their “fair share”.
    Just sayin!

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31. 

    bill tozer

    14 May 2013

    Only in my dreams would I ever see the bumper sticker after Fast & Furious that reads “Holder lied, people died.” Only in a daydream would I ever see the bumper sticker that reads Hillary lied, people died” following Benjhasi. Ain’t gonna happen.
    Hillary was smart enough to bail the State Department AND bonk her head when Benjhazi became more that some angry folks demonstrating against a video they never seen or heard of. In fact, there never was a demonstration, lol. Gotta hand it to those Clintonistas. They have shrewd political skills for sure. So Obama is stuck with an unsympathetic head of the State Department to clean up the mess and I wish him well in this endeavor.
    Living in Obamastan is kinda like being forced to play a shell game. You know the game is rigged but you said you would play and now must honor your word. Adding insult to injury, you are dumb enough to think it is obvious as the nose on ones own face to everybody that the game is fraudulent. That is dumb thinking.
    There will be no “Obama Lied, People Died” bumper stickers. No passion for it. No mood to drag the country through another Watergate or Clinton’s Zippergate. Hopefully Obama will fade into history like the Wall Street protests when reasoned folk began to distance themselves from the undesirables.
    Obama can blame the previous Administration all day long. In fact, I think he is 100% correct and accurate. All blame falls on the previous Administration, the last Administration. Lets see here. We are into the second term of the Obama Presidency. The first term was Obama’s first Administration. Upon re-election he started his 2nd Administration.
    His new Administration looks similar to his first Administration minus Van Jones, The Nobel Peace Prize and folks fainting in the streets when he spoke. Yep, blame the previous Administration. That first one sucked, but the new one is more dangerous.

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32. 

    Paul Emery

    14 May 2013

    Fish
    I am not a Dem and I am not defending them. It is a fair judgement though to note the dire situation Obama inherited from Bush and the decline in our economy under the stewardship of the Pubbers. Am I hoop de do dah over Obame? No way. Show me where I am! His extended the free pass to the banksters carried on from the Bush years and Obamacare is a mess, I personally support some kind of single payer. I personally believe that the War in Iraq was under false pretenses and the American people were lied to about WMD’s. That’s my view and it is every bit as valid as George expressing his viewpoint. George does not even consider us pulling out of most international military engagements, a position advocated by Libertarians, as the only way out of this endless mess.
    It’s unfortunate that we cannot carry on a meaningful conversation about how we can dump the Republicrats but most in this crowd are too timid to support such an action.

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33. 

    George Rebane

    14 May 2013

    PaulE 220pm – dumping the Republicrats? I am on record here favoring a multi-party political landscape with many parties each with more focused ideologies and platforms from which to choose instead of the two giants, each trying to cover too much of the waterfront. But in your mode of “meaningful conversation”, people’s previously established and documented positions are either denied or ignored as you repeat your last charge. Hard to make progress like that.
    My admitted problem with the multi-party approach is that I don’t know how to get from here to there. Every proposed tactic makes the contingent that tries to vote for a third/fourth party a big loser. And you don’t have a clue how to do it either as you repaint everyone else as a devout Republican or even a devout Democrat.

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34. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    Paul, you are so focused on blaming the King (well, the office is the POTUS but the you seem to think the P’s powers are aristocratic) while you ignore where it all comes from. Bush was, all told, a mediocre President. Elected as a “compassionate conservative”, he came to office with a recession in his hands whose roots predated the election, and the country was hinting at a recovery when 9/11 hit.
    I have many reservations about the whole war on terror and how it has progressed but say what you will, after 9/11 the only Islamic terrorist bomb that actually hit the US since was made out of a pressure cooker and set by two disaffected brothers.
    The big power in Washington DC that is usually ignored is the Speaker of the House and the majority party that selected them. One of the weakest Speakers in history, Dennis Hastert, who saw what Gingrich got for actually cleaning house and so just swept all the spending along (D’s and R’s are great at mutual quid pro quo spending when there’s no adult supervision) was Bush’s Speaker at the beginning but Bush’s last two years had Speaker Pelosi, and by the time the 2008 elections were held, the country was in really bad shape which, as usual, was blamed on Bush without any tarnish on Pelosi.
    It took two more years for Pelosi and the Democratic House to actually get some blame, and were finally dumped by voters in 2010.
    Obama/Pelosi/Reid have been a disaster, and Boehner, while better for the country than Pelosi, hasn’t been much to write home about but I think he’s had a narrow path, especially given Obama’s style of negotiation (“renegiation” might be a better word) and the rise of the Tea types.
    Follow the money. It all leads back to the Speaker.

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35. 

    Paul Emery

    14 May 2013

    George, Gregory
    First we have to scare the crap out of the powers that be by voting third party-any party in the next House election. Just imagine what the effect would be if 80% of the votes were distributed among Libertarians, Greens, Natural Law, Peace and Freedom, etc. What a balance that would create if the House were independent of Republcrat affiliations. It could be done in one election cycle and only involves a personal decision by each individual that enough is enough and and no amount of money can buy you off.
    First in California we have to dump the repressive so called Open Primary (Prop 14 2010) which was a bone thrown to former State Senator Maldanodo by the Schwartz to get him to sign on to his budget.

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36. 

    fish

    14 May 2013

    Oh my the hits just keep coming!
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-14/irs-conservatives-provide-details-regarding-all-your-facebook-or-twitter-activity
    I don’t think this is going to end well.

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37. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    “First we have to scare the crap out of the powers that be by voting third party-any party in the next House election.”
    Paul, dream on.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNL0KfD0nts
    Lincoln was the last 3rd party candidate to win the presidency and drag his party into power, and it wasn’t voters choosing any third party because they didn’t like the current big two. People should vote their conscience and philosophies and not for the lesser of the two weevils. Or just anyone for a protest.

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38. 

    Paul Emery

    14 May 2013

    Well Gregory I’m doing it and you also probably are as well. I have a hard time imagining you supporting the Repubs as a real option for enlightened independent leadership.

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39. 

    Barry Pruett

    14 May 2013

    Now, I think that Paul and Ben are onto something that a lot of the readers here should listen to.
    Ben states that “American global military/ political hegemony is ugly, destructive, and immoral.” I do not know that I agree with his adjectives exactly, but we do spend a lot on overseas military bases. Likewise, we do spend a ton on entitlements. In an effort to reign in spending and balance a budget so that we do not spend our issue into obilivion, I do not think that anything should be off the table.

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40. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    Paul, at this point the only way I see the Democratic Party as being an option for enlightened leadership is if the regressive “progressive” Left bails.
    I see the current dynamic in Washington to be poisoned mostly by Dems (the current scandals are deliciously partisan Democratic in origin), and the GOP’s only good source of new and good ideas are the ones filched by the new guard from libertarians. To the extent the GOP can move towards classic liberal/libertarian ideals, they certainly can be a real option.
    If the Democratic party can shed the horribly misnamed “Progressives” and move towards their classic liberal/libertarian roots, I’d be happy to vote Democratic, but I’m afraid the “Progressives” will have to be on the short end of the stick for some time to abandon their gravy train of the last four score years.

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41. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    “Well Gregory I’m doing it and you also probably are as well.”
    Not really. While I’ve been registered and usually voting Libertarian since ’80, it was never ‘any third party because I hate Democrats and Republicans’. It was ALWAYS because of a philosophical affinity and finally recognizing the Dems had long shed any ties with Jeffersonian ideals.

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42. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    Barry, do you think we’ve pacified Germany and Japan well enough to bring our boys and girls home?

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43. 

    George Rebane

    14 May 2013

    Some may profitably argue that our boys and girls have not stayed in Germany and Japan for all these decades just to ensure that the proper level of pacification has been achieved.

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44. 

    Ben Emery

    14 May 2013

    900 military bases in 130 countries with a offense/ defense budget that equals the rest of the world combined, we need to wake up.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/14/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-us-has-military-personnel-130-nation/
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/everything-chuck-hagel-needs-to-know-about-the-defense-budget-in-charts/

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45. 

    George Rebane

    14 May 2013

    Methinks that a liberal does not know the difference between a military base and a military liaison office if their life or intellectual credentials depended on it.

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46. 

    Ben Emery

    14 May 2013

    George,
    Are you saying Ron Paul is liberal? Here we go with the typical semantics of the statement instead of the content.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564

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47. 

    George Rebane

    14 May 2013

    BenE 828pm – Not at all. Ron Paul is a libertarian with the dyed-in-the-wool belief that America should not project power beyond its coastal waters, and should maintain a sufficient military to defend its sovereignty only from within that boundary.
    I part with libertarians on that tenet of their faith, and therefore call myself a conservetarian. If realized, the libertarian tenet would quickly render a binary aftermath – 1) the start of a global nuclear holocaust as we were reduced to MAD in order to protect ourselves and/or our extended interests, or 2) the eventual destruction of the United States, because long ago we ceased to be a country that could defend itself with in-country forces.
    Only nations intending to initiate a focused aggression don’t have to install and maintain an extended military umbrella. Additionally, the US has had the added responsibility of being the mother hen protecting its little allied chicks who are more than willing to let their benefactor bear all the financial and political costs of maintaining a pseudo-civilized world that profits them.
    But such notions have continued to escape both liberals and libertarians.

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48. 

    Paul Emery

    14 May 2013

    Fair enough George. It’s appropriate to ask then what would your foreign policy be in Afghanistan for example that would be different from what Obama is doing. Also Iraq, Syria and Iran.

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49. 

    Gregory

    14 May 2013

    Ben, by the original definition of the word, yes, Ron Paul is a liberal.
    Paul, I think a more fundamental question is that, since Obama ran on fundamentally altering Bush’s war policies, why has he continued the Bush war policies?
    One very left liberal friend of mine, on the night of Obama’s first win, was the poster boy for ungracious winners, and drunk (a hazard when you’re watching the election from a bar). A Gulf war I vet, he was particularly upset about GTMO, and so I asked him when he thought Obama would close it.
    The day after the inauguration.
    When I said I thought he’d not find it that easy and he continued the swearing. Of course, Guantanamo is still there. Will probably still be there when Obama leaves office.

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50. 

    George Rebane

    14 May 2013

    PaulE 916pm – I invite your rereading of my 1037pm before you review the context in which, according to my lights, any policy on the mid-east should be made.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/01/this-presidents-second-term.html
    Additionally, it appears that you again sent your cricket brigade to respond to my 248pm in the thread that you yourself launched. Hard to have such a conversation when you’re dancing the ‘subject switcheroo sidestep’.

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