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George Rebane

[This is the submitted form of my November column published in the 10nov12 print and (pay-walled) online editions of The Union.]

Last year Germany’s Angela Merkel made an audacious pronouncement – she said that ‘multikulti’ or multi-culturalism was not working to keep her country a cohesive nation-state with shared values that support needed public policies.  Other EU countries like Britain and France hold the same views but were then too timid to give them voice.

Here in America the election and then re-election of President Obama has highlighted our prominent cultural divides.  Many people diagnosed Mitt Romney’s problem as not being able to attract the black and Hispanic votes.  And as we saw last Tuesday, Americans voted strongly along ethnic and racial lines.

In this election, as in no other in our history, Americans were offered a robust choice of diametrically opposing directions society should take to organize and govern itself.  And splitting down the middle, we attempted to take Yogi Berra’s fork-in-the-road advice.  Instead, what we got was four more years of a forced march toward a kind of trans-European socialism.

Today we are way past the tipping point of being able to recover our Republic as inherited from our Founders, or even as modified by Presidents Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Johnson.  We now have huge schisms that divide us on national sovereignty, wealth distribution, and the scope of government in our lives.  The only cultural aspect that we all seem to agree on is the broad-based promotion of an ignorance that fosters compliance.  Our public schools have institutionalized this as can be demonstrated on any street corner in the land.


Demographically it is clear that our ability to remain economically viable will require the arrival of a steady stream of industrious immigrants.  The alternative is to suffer the slow demographic demise that is happening now in the EU, Russia, and Japan.  But our immigration policy is on the rocks, and all repairs to it involve solutions that share an open border with a dysfunctional country.  A significant fraction of Americans see no threat in that to our remaining a sovereign nation-state.

Another large tranche of us don’t have a clue on how an economy works, and are convinced that all shortfalls in government revenues and their own personal pocketbooks can be remedied by taking more from the currently defined ‘rich’.   These Americans experience no cognitive dissonance when told that all social problems will yield to ever more government spending.

And proceeding on that line of argument, it is a short distance to the conclusion that there is and should be no limits on the government’s share of the national fisc.  In the last four years our historic rate of government involvement has surged from 18% to 24% of GDP.  Under the practised ideology of the ongoing administration, that percentage is going to increase further and without any known bound.  And a large fraction, of those few who even know what GDP is, see no problem with such an increase – their education draws another blank as to the historical experience with such forms of governance.

We could go on to illustrate the divisions about impacts of public debt and deficits, and decay of property rights and individual liberties that continue to assault the nation.  But I think you understand the landscape, and the conclusion about the tipping point receding in the rear view mirror.

Knowing this, we must also accept that there is no turning back.  In order to keep the peace, what we must instead seek is a new political structure that can serve these multiple cultures, ethnicities, along with their social goals and levels of understanding.  Attempting to jam such strongly nuanced belief systems into only two political buckets satisfies fewer constituencies with every passing year.
 
As an alternative way forward, it looks like what America now needs is a new model, one with four on the floor – on the floor of the House and the Senate, that is.  On the Right the Republicans can divide into a so-called moderate center-right party, and a more strongly constitutionalist conservative party.  The Democrats on the Left would form a center-left party offering a tempered form of progressivism, and then form a more strongly collectivist left wing that would, say, openly promote globalist policies such as the UN’s Agenda 21.

Voters could then be attracted to more focused and understandable social objectives.  To govern in Congress, the parties would have to form coalitions negotiated by elected representatives who have more expertise in the nation’s issues.  Our alternative today is a metastasizing wholesale democracy that promises to consume what is left of our Republic.

George Rebane is an entrepreneur and a retired systems scientist in Nevada County who regularly expands these and other themes on KVMR and Rebane’s Ruminations (www.georgerebane.com).

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120 responses to “Does Multikulti require Multiparty?”

  1. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Seems to me we already have some very industrious folk who fought their way north, and then evolves from picking lettuce to being the workers of choice due to acceptance of low wages and ability to do the job, and on to entrepreneurship and the classic capitalistic American Dream, near-ownership of the labor of others, and keeping as much of the fruits of said labor for oneself as possible.
    The last ditch attempt to save a lost election by pumping Benghazi up (despite the fact that the Republicans voted down funding for security abroad) when the 1% has raided this country’s poor, working and middle classes for every cent they can get, is absurd. Now that the latest minor scandal is going to go to the same level, when Republicans have been cheating on their wives and tap dancing in bathroom stalls the whole decade, is just plain silly. If the Republicans would rather destroy this country than seek middle ground, so be it, but don’t kid yourself about the priorities here, The New Feudalism is every bit as unfair as the old Feudalism, and the rise of OWS proves that.
    I strongly recommend watching this entire video, but if nothing else, be sure to watch 6:00 minutes through 8:00 minutes, and then think about what is going on at Raley’s.
    http://video.pbs.org/video/2299746925/
    As those on the cheated and exploited end, get pushed further down the scale, their kids, in reaction, turn our schools into pre-prison Big Yards, and further retard the development of an educated population the Republican claim to want.

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar

    Your four-on the floor is an interesting idea that should provoke an interesting discussion. Do you have some ideas on how this might be implemented? It seem to me that the Republican party is already splitting up with the Tea Party Conservatives on one side and the Elites from the East on the other side. I guess that the Democrats could be Union Thugs on one side and Welfare Minorities on the other.

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  3. Barry Pruett Avatar

    Your post was very uplifting for a Saturday morning- that being sarcasm. When Obama is running ads in Mexico instructing would-be illegal immigrants how to get on food stamps in the USA and with elections officials like Greg Diaz who admittedly counts all unqualified ballots (regardless of the law), it is no wonder liberals garner a majority of the legal and illegal imigrant vote. When you are the party of the “rule of law,” running against the “anything goes” liberals is a daunting task…but a noble and just one. In the end, justice and truth always win, and for that reason, we will eventually be successful in guiding the country back to the rule of law.

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  4. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    I agree, what an uplifting morning…….starting with the use of the Multikulti to describe a completely non-analogous shift in American demographics, thus injecting the tensions of the religious and ethnic issues of a European movement in to an American situation (non-analogous because hispanics are actually assimilating at a faster rate than previous immigrants in the US, are of the same religious background as most of the US, and are assimilating into a society that has a history of assimilation rather than a society that has a history of resistance to assimilation); followed by Russ’ sour grapes description of socially moderate Republicans as east coast elites and Democrats as made up entirely of Thugs and brown people; followed by Barry’s allegations of illegal activity against a man who beat his ass 2-1 at the polls, and characterization of Democrats as against “the rule of law”.
    I will repost here something I posted over at Mr. Pelline’s blog:
    “So here is what I have to say to Russ, George, Todd, Martin and crew [and by crew I include mindless followers who don’t question their friends language and values].
    If you use race baiting and dog whistle racist language.. people of color are not going to vote for your candidates.
    If you call women who use birth control whores…women are not going to vote for your candidates.
    If you call immigrants to this country freeloaders, loafers, and leeches they are not going to vote for your candidates.
    If you call young people stupid, uneducated, narcissists they are not going to vote for your candidates.
    If you tell gay people that their love is less important, real or natural than yours, they are not going to vote for your candidates.
    It is not about how much money you have to deliver your message, how you split the vote, how you micro-target your base, how much you discourage people voting, or how photogenic or impassioned your candidate is.
    It is about what you believe….what you believe in your hearts and souls and what comes out every time you open your mouths……if you tell people you hate them, don’t respect them, and question their Americanism they are going to kick you in the ass every time.”
    Face it boys….you are on the wrong side of history…..thank God!

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  5. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Let the Civil War within the Republican Party begin…I really hope the crazy Tea Party nut jobs win…it will make them a minority in most of the country for a generation……

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    SteveF, you are as off in your analysis as you are in your business acumen. You libs conveniently forget you all were crapping your pants in 2004 when Kerry was beaten. Those exit polls were phony as the lamestreams and your operatives were trying to influence the voters on the Central and West coast time zones.
    There is no civil war going to happen. There will a reassessment of policies, strategies and outreach and we will be back to kick your tooshies in 2014. The real problem I see is there will be an implosion within the democrat party over money, spending and debt. I can hardly wait.
    So, as long as you libs do your race baiting, class warfare crap, you will see a long term rejection of you by fair minded Americans. 2.5 percent victories are no mandate. Oh, and we have all the local and regional offices and those fellows are very conservative. What a hoot!

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  7. Tom Kenworth Avatar

    Depends on how you define “local” Todd. I think of NorCal as local, and the Dems rule.

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  8. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Talking about off in business acumen how are you spec homes doing Big Boy? I bet I talk with more ‘business people’ in a week than you do in a year! And we saw accurate and well informed all of your bloated prognostication was! A lot of good having all those local offices is going to do for you. The Republican county supervisors think all of you guys are nuts, and the state representatives will be in a super minority unable to even effect tax policy.
    I think perhaps Glen Beck has the best solution for you…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1lRN9_zw-Jw

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  9. Tom Kenworth Avatar

    Farmland and guns? no seeds, no tractor, no solar powered well pumps, the guns will have nothing worth protecting. BTW, never did get an answer to how far away from Walt and his new toy do you feel safe at? Case in point. We had one neighbor who was fairly active with guns, so I deliberately placed our firewood storage bins about 30 feet away from our house, directly in the path of any shots coming from that direction.

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  10. Russ Steele Avatar

    The facts are beginning to roll in as Counties start doing the final count, finding more ballots than registered voters in Ohio Counties. In PA the Obama vote was 99% is some precincts.
    Across Philadelphia, GOP poll inspectors were forcibly (and illegally) removed from polling locations. Coincidentally (or not), Mr. Obama received “astronomical” numbers in those very same regions, including locations where he received “over 99%” of the vote.
    Ward 4, which also had a poll watcher dressed in Obama attire, went massively for Obama. Mr. Obama received 99.5% of the vote, defeating Mr. Romney 9,955 to 55.

    I am sure that we will soon find more fraud, like the military ballots stored in a warehouse until the day after the election.

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  11. Russ Steele Avatar

    Check out this chart and your will see where the real divide is:
    http://image.patriotpost.us/2012-11-08-alexander-3.jpg

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  12. Tom Kenworth Avatar

    If newly registered votoer are not included in the number of “Registered Voters” then it is entirely possible that the number of ballots would exceed the previous noted number of Registered Voters.” For those who are obsessed with college degrees and areas of specialization, I submit the following:

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  13. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    “Demographically it is clear that our ability to remain economically viable will require the arrival of a steady stream of industrious immigrants.”
    Did ever occur to you that that’s the plan?

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  14. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Reality crashes the Republican Party… it’s not a matter of fine-tuning a message or finding minority candidates; the problem is a platform that staked out the far-right fringe on many issues.
    It’s hard to argue with the demographic dimensions of President Obama’s victory. He won in almost every category of voters except senior citizens and white men.
    According to exit polls, support for President Obama came from 93% of blacks, 71% of Latinos, 73% of Asian Americans, 76% of gays and lesbians, 60% of voters under 30 and 55% of women. That is not your classic ideological coalition, with shared interests and concerns. That’s a collection of folks alienated, over time, by Republicans.
    People vote their pocketbooks, but they also vote their passions. And those reflect not only their age and ethnic heritage, but the sort of personal lives that hard right-wingers and the Republicans have made clear they’re not willing to abide.
    The Republican Party is pandering to a base that is rapidly shrinking in a country that’s learning to tune them out. The Tea Party has taken the Republican Party to the far right. The Republican Party now requires one to pass a litmus test. Support a woman’s right to chose and you are out, support any type of taxes and you are out, gay rights and out you go, immigration reform, no way… out you go.
    The results across America on Tuesday make it all very clear. The Tea Party candidates were sent parking and 100’s and 100’s of millions in super PAC dollars got Karl Rove no wins.
    Demographics are facts. Social science tells the story. What does the Tea Party and the Republican Party have to offer in order to have any type of future? You could get 100% of 30%, but that is not a recipe for a future.
    Thanks to Fox, Karl Rove, Rush and the Tea Party the Republican Party will now go to war with itself as it tries to come up with some path forward. The Republican Party has alienated far to many for far too long… what will they do?
    Demographics tell the story of the demise of the Republican Party for generations to come. Now we will watch the Republican Party implode and the Tea Party fade away.
    President Obama 332 and Romney 206… an electoral land slide! Now go out and make a big list of excuses and wild claims about fraud… get Trump and Rush to help make the list.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Little boy SteveF has a problem. He has decide to play the propaganda game with the election results. His analysis is as bad as his ability to pay his payroll taxes as a failed restaurant owner in Truckee (250K?). I now see why we have a deficit because people like Frisch are in charge of the pocketbooks. God help the middle class and poor in our state. The takers are now in charge.

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  16. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Hey Steve,
    Do you know why Muslims and Jews don’t eat pork?

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  17. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Hey Steve,(Enos)
    Do you know why Muslims and Jews don’t eat pork?
    Well Mr. Enos, for the same reason we removed spittoons from hotels and bars.
    I’ll let you do the research.
    Then we can move on to the anti-sodomy laws.
    Let me help you there.
    “Gay Men’s Health News: Liver Cancer On the Rise from Untreated Hepatitis”
    http://www.realjock.com/article/1646
    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/21/news/la-heb-hepatitis-c-sex-07212011
    Tell me Steve, do you bother to enlighten young men to the dangers, or, do you just scoff at biblically based warnings because they’re biblically based and you’re a religious bigot?

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  18. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    George, did you really censor my response? If I respond without calling Todd the accurate description of what he really is will you publish it?

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  19. Russ Steele Avatar

    With unlimited spending and taxing power in Sacramento they will continue to drive businesses from the state, and those that choose to stay will forced to reassess their position as energy costs soar and the CO2 regulator costs burdens become untenable. As businesses leave, there are fewer jobs and fewer people to pay the taxes, and California’s economic death spiral accelerates until there is rude and messy crash into reality. There is no way to tax or regulate our to a recovery, especially if tax revenue falls below states ability to pay the interest on bonds and loans.
    As will all addicts, recovery cannot start until the patient hits bottom and admits they have and problem and accept the fact that recovery is possible if they have the will. One day this state will hit bottom and the electorate will recognize that recovery is possible but only under the supervision of a fiscally responsible leadership in the Assembly, Senate and the Governors Office. It maybe beyond my time, but it will happen.
    In a perverse way I am pleased that we now have a super-majority in the Assembly and Senate, with a Governor more than willing to tax and spend at will. It will hasten the inevitable crash and burn, so we can get started on the recovery regimen.

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  20. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Wow!… you must be sure to read this post by D. King:
    Posted by: D. King | 10 November 2012 at 02:32 PM

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  21. Tom Kenworth Avatar

    So far these blogs have destroyed medicine and teaching as financially viable occupations, who’s next? Seems like bean counters working for funeral homes is the only safe (financially) occupation.

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  22. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Hey Todd, you are one viscous guy, especially for a guy who allowed his property to foreclose and let the American taxpayers pay for.
    Yes, I once had debt.
    Guess what, I paid back every red cent of my debt. It took me 8 years, and I did it because it was my responsibility. I just buckled down, got another job, and paid for my mistakes. I did not rail against the government for treating me unfairly (which they did not); I did not run away from my debt; I did not hide my debt; I have told hundreds of people my story of struggling owning the restaurant; and I paid every single one of my employees on the spot when I shut down. Not a single one of them suffered a single loss.
    Can you say the same……I don’t think so.
    But I do think that you have demonstrated for everyone here exactly what type of man you are. You are a man who hides his flaws, while picking on others instead of standing up and paying his dues when he makes a mistake. You are the type of guy who revels in hurting other people.
    And, ultimately, you are the type of man who thinks he can blackmail people into silence by threatening to disclose personal information.
    Do all you readers remember Todd saying he had a ‘big story’ that would embarrass someone last year? The problem with blackmail Todd is that it doesn’t work if the person you are trying to blackmail stands up and does the right thing. I am proud of the fact that I paid my debts. I did the right thing.
    And you, you are dirt.

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  23. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    By the way Todd, you already disclosed all of the cr*p over on your own lame blog over the last year….do you really think that you can hurt or intimidate me by being a complete jerk over here? Don’t you get it Todd; NO ONE CARES.

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  24. Tom Kenworth Avatar

    Speaking of doing the right thing, Woodsy contacted me and said he was going to make the payment to Hospitality House of $100 from our bet some years ago. Congrats, Woodsy, for being a man of character!
    As far as the producers go, how do you think the 10 riches counties in the country voted? Take a gander, 8 of ten supported Obama. Oh my! What does that say about the rich of our county?

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  25. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    By the way George, I sent my contribution in to SESF as well.

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  26. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Yeah, lets get back to the issues….I posted here that if one looks at the county-by-county map of the election results it is pretty darn clear that the highest income counties in the country voted for Obama. Clearly they don’t think that paying a little more at the top end in income taxes is going to be a problem!

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  27. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Speaking of garnering support Steve Enos. How did that Fast and Furious work out for the 300+ Mexicans killed? Maybe they’re just a means to an end for the left.

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  28. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I think Steve Frisch has lost his mind. What a hoot! Now back to the issues.

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  29. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    “Fast and Furious”… a total, screwed up mess.

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  30. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    You mean killing Mexicans with American guns was not the plan? Then what was it?

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  31. Russ Steele Avatar

    D.King@03:22PM and Enos@04:00PM
    Fast and Furious is going to look like a kindergarden exercise once the Benghazi coverup is exposed. The CIA was using the Benghazi mission compound to run weapons, not just guns, to al-Qaida and Syrian opposition groups through Turkey. It was not a consulate. It was just a bunch of rundown buildings with space to store the weapons prior to shipment to Syria, via Turkey. Stevenson’s last meeting of the day was with an official from Turkey.
    The speculation surrounding the sudden resignation of CIA Chief General David Petraeus is focusing in large part on his role in an alleged cover-up of the attacks against the U.S. mission in Benghazi this past September. Perhaps overlooked is the CIA’s role in purportedly using the Benghazi mission to coordinate U.S. aid to Syrian opposition groups and information those same insurgents include jihadists openly acting under the al-Qaida umbrella.
    Libya had thousands of shoulder fired anti-craft rockets that the rebels needed to shoot down Bashar al-Assad’s fighter and helicopter. That is how Russia was driven out of Afghanistan, with man-pack anti-aircraft systems. It appears that the CIA was running those man-pack weapons to the Syrian opposition groups, which included al-Qaida according to many reports from the region.

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  32. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    “Libya had thousands of shoulder fired anti-craft rockets…”
    I think the guess was 20,000!
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/new-economy/2011/1209/Libya-s-missing-missiles-a-threat-to-US-airline-passengers

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I wouldn’t take Todd too seriously on political analysis. He picked Romney by 6-8 % and was off by 10% and over a hundred electoral votes and owes me a juicy corn dog as result. Nate Silver, who was 100% on the mark believes the Repubs will have a tough time for the indefinite future. This is pretty depressing I know for genetic Republicans. Nate writes:
    “Based on a preliminary analysis of the returns, Mitt Romney may have had to win the national popular vote by three percentage points on Tuesday to be assured of winning the Electoral College.”
    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/as-nation-and-parties-change-republicans-are-at-an-electoral-college-disadvantage/
    It sure is great to live in a republic

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  34. Walt B Avatar

    Well Doc, .308 is mighty scarce. ANY M14 is now two fist fulls of Jacksons.
    AR10? Few and far between, but they are out there.( I only found 5 today)
    A rumor surfaced that The Range up here had one on order. Sure as Hell… There was one
    due in soon. What model? They don’t even really know, other than it’s made by Bushmaster. But I forked over the quoted “out the door” price.
    Too bad I can’t even start the paperwork till it shows up. So now I wait, so I can wait some more.
    So… Will it be bare bones stock? Or will it have some slight upgrades? No one knows.
    What a day.

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    As far as third and fourth party’s I’m all for it. The alingment would likely be Republicrats 2 (somewhat interchangeable values and opinions with slight variations) Greens-Enviros-1 and Libertarian-1.

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  36. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Walt, below is a link to “Lan World”. Visit their website as they have a number of well priced .308 AR opitions by Rock River, DPMS and Remington. They are a top notch company with real helpful people and great, fast service. Just have it ship to a local dealer, transfer fees are low.
    http://www.lanworldinc.com/

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  37. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    PS Walt… they do California compliant firearms for those of us in California.

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  38. Mikey McD Avatar
    Mikey McD

    The president has succeeded in dividing America based on income. He has and continues to encouraged hate towards the successful. He has succeeded (as the Nazi’s did in the 1930’s) in identifying and targeting a scapegoat.
    I had a liberal millionaire client (inheritance) tell me not to refer to her as a millionaire because she “hates the rich” (her words not mine).
    I choose love when I am allowed.

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  39. Russ Steele Avatar

    Heh!
    Indeed, the House Republican majority remains almost completely unchanged, except that the new caucus is more conservative than the old one. If John Boehner wants to remain speaker, he should make sure that 120 Republican Congressman don’t vote against him.
    What, the Republican ended up with a stronger House and more Republican Governors? Everything that Republican are doing cannot be wrong. Our gravest danger is choosing weak candidates and let them go a pandering. I considered both Romney and McCain weak candidates who were prone to pandering, and most people saw right through it.
    Now the Republican Elites are trying to blame the Tea Party for the loss. They are sounding more like liberals “it is always some one else’s fault” I rest my case.

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  40. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Where is a range that I can stretch my new girlfriends legs?
    800 yards should just about do it.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    Russ Steele | 10 November 2012 at 04:17 PM
    Can you provide some links to your conspiracy theory? It seems a bit Hollywood but possibly true. Reminds me of Iran Contra.

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  42. Russ Steele Avatar

    Paul@09:46PM
    You might want to try these sources:
    http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/
    http://thediplomad.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-benghazi-emails-and-some.html
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/is-this-why-cia-chief-really-resigned/
    You may think that some are more credible than others and you may be inclined to attack the source rather than the collection of dots that supports the theory that the CIA was running weapons to terrorists.
    The CIA did it in Afghanistan to help the mujahideen defeat the Russians, it is not a difficult step to think that they would repeat that success for the Syrian conflict. The question was where to get the MANPADs. Well the Libyans had a lot of Soviet missiles that fit the need. No US marking to drag us into the war, and more than capable of doing the job, but in the wrong hands could being down an airliner. Stay Tuned the investigation will reveal all.

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 946pm – Let me echo Russ’ 1036pm. First, it is not his conspiracy theory, but one of the most plausible explanations that is being considered worldwide today. A bit wider reading would reveal that and many other ongoing items that are related to our election.
    And second, when a government runs covert operations, which it does almost constantly, these are not called conspiracies, but implementations of foreign policy. We may not like them, but that is too bad. However, some such implementations may be viewed as legal and others illegal according to, say, certain members of Congress.

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  44. Billy T Avatar
    Billy T

    Dr. Rebane, looking forward I used to see a cloudy ball, instead of a crystal ball. It has been getting clearer with each passing month.
    The country as a whole has no problem expanding social programs and bigger government. Many believe now that it is the primary role of government. Just look at Sandy. People actually think FEMA should be the first responders, which is ridiculous. Help with mortgages, help with going to school, help with day care, help with buying a new car, help with eating, help with rent, help with getting a job, help with healthcare, help with gathering firewood, help with cell phones. Too many people believe that is the role of gobernment and have no problem looking to Big Brother first, foremost, and solely instead of being the last resort.
    Tipping point? Yes, it is in the rear view mirror.
    Once read an article entitled “What ever happened to Mr. and Mrs.?” Gave a brief historical perspective. Kids used to call the next door neighbor Mr. Jones and the guy at the market Mr. Smith and the kindergarten teach Mrs. Wills. After the sixties, we started calling folks Bill and Dave and Mary, even teachers and the Parks and Recs director. Now it is so common that is weird to hear a kid call a next door neighbor or even a youth pastor Mr. Davies. It takes 3 generations and then it is lost. The 3rd generation just passes it on to infinity. What ever happened to Mr. and Mrs.? Same for our society. 3 generations of handouts and expanding goberment and now it is the norm. Don’t kid yourself. Government will be bigger, much bigger, than it is now. The election proved that. Talk of cutting government back is just talk. There are NO serious plans to reduce the size of government. Won’t happen.
    People like me who believe we sell our souls if we take the Great White Father in Washington’s money are rare, a dying relic of the past. The reservations are a wasteland of people waiting for the Great White Father in Washington to drop some coins in the beggar’s cup month and month, year after year, and now generation after generation. We don’t work on the plantation no more. Nope, welcome to the reservation.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 842am – Well said and true Mr Tozer. The breakdown of mutual respect as shown through salutations is an early step in the breakdown of social order. We are not all peers nor equal in all dimensions, and the recognition of social structure – based on achievement, rank, station, age, … – is a prime contributor to social order.
    Accepting tribute from the regime, that has been taken by force from our neighbor, for ‘proper behavior’ does indeed usher us onto the Great Reservation.

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  46. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Billy T…. here’s a simple fact about the “taker” States in the U.S.
    This is not talked about by the right and the conservatives as they bash on the blue States.
    Almost all the Red States take more from the Federal Government than they contribute, while the Blue States do the opposite. The Blue States support the Red States.

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  47. nutzo fast Avatar
    nutzo fast

    Dear Red States:
    We’re ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics, so we’ve decided we’re leaving.
    We in New York, Mass and CA intend to form our own country and we’re taking all the other Blue States with us.
    In case you aren’t aware that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Md, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Vermont, the rest of the Northeast, and DC also.
    We believe this split will be beneficial to the entire nation and especially to the people of our new country called “The Enlightened States of America” (E.S.A).
    To sum up briefly:
    You get Texas, Oklahoma, AZ and all the slave states.
    We get stem cell research, the best beaches, and we’ll take all of the creative gay people you don’t want anyway.
    We get Barack and Michelle, Bill & Hillary, Andrew Cuomo, Elizabeth Warren, and Diane Feinstein. You get Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry and Todd Akin.
    We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.
    We get Apple, Intel, Microsoft and all the smart technology. You get WorldCom, the Koch Bros, and all the coal/oil pollution.
    We get Harvard, Yale, Columbia, UC and Princeton. You get Ole’ Miss.
    We get Silicon Valley, NYC, San Fran, Seattle and 85 percent of America’s venture capital and best entrepreneurs.
    You get Alabama and Arkansas.
    We get two-thirds of all the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.
    Our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition states, so we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of angry single moms and deadbeat dads.
    With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines (you can serve Ripple at your state dinners), 90% of the best cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all the living redwoods, solar power, the Sequoias and condors, all the Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, UC, UCLA, Cal Tech and MIT.
    With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all the obese Americans and their projected healthcare costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all the Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, plus Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
    We also get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you very much. You get Appalachia.
    You get the 38% of those in the Red states who believe that the world was created in 7 days and that Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, the 62% who are pro-life for fetuses but not for the kids who are actually born or their Moms, those who believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, the 44% who know that evolution is only a theory, the 53% who still believe that Saddam was part of 9/11 and had weapons of mass destruction, that Obama was born in Kenya, and the 61% of those crazy bastards who even believe they have higher morals then we do.
    We’re taking all the good weed too. They can have that crap they grow in Mexico.
    Sincerely,
    A Citizen of the Enlightened States of America

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  48. Russ Steele Avatar

    Dear Citizen of the Enlightened States of America
    If you feel so strongly about this issue why are you hiding as “nutzo fast”? Did you provide a valid e-mail address?

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  49. Billy T Avatar
    Billy T

    Dear Nutzo Fast. I suppose I can live without pineapple. Jonah spent three days in the belly of the “whale”, then came back to his senses. We all make mistakes. Don’t think Tropical Storm Sandy spared New York and Jersey’s coastal solar panels, but I have been wrong before. Keep your good weed, your poison oak, and your HIV positives. Ripple? Does it come in a box? Best thing the Blue States have is 2 Buck Chuck’s. A fabulous award winning vintage according to the Enlightened Ones.

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