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George Rebane

The subject of this post is the candyass response of Republican politicians to the Limbaugh/Fluke imbroglio.

On ‘The Sad Tale of Sandra Fluke’ and extensive comment stream continues to (finally) air the destructive twists and turns of Obamacare that once more revealed the Left’s intentions on the breadth of entitlements subsidizing personal recreation, and their intentions on the constraint of conservative speech.  The former is part of their long promoted socialism for America, but the latter is a classic illustration and application of their asymmetrical logic on discourse in the public square.

The asymmetry between what progressive pundits can say and how it is received in the lamestream (and their sheeple audiences), and what a conservative can say is a matter of record.  It is a long and detailed historical litany that I will not repeat, but will point you toward so you know what I’m talking about.  Red State’s Lori Ziganto writes ‘Limbaugh, Fluke, 'War on Women’ and the Travesty of Cravenly Caving to Lies of the Left’, Erick Erickson writes 'Silencing the Right', and Reason’s Nick Gillespie examines when ‘It's Like Totally Different When a Liberal Blowhard Guy Calls a Conservative Woman a Twat!’.  There are more similar recountings, but with these you’ll get the idea.

The national response rolling over the countryside has been well-managed by the Left, reaching from the White House down to the loud local lefties in every community, with ours probably serving as the posterchild.  This you can confirm in ‘The Sad Tale …’ comment stream where some of our progressive luminaries in high dudgeon have posted monuments to their one-sided disgust at Limbaugh’s original remarks and my launch of a discussion of this new area of outrageous public entitlement.  These will stand as archeological monuments to 21st century leftwing mores and mentality.

But my gripe here is with the Republican response to the howling heard over the land today.  The proper reply from prominent Republicans to Obama on down on this matter is, ‘Suck it up, this is what free speech sounds like.  Limbaugh has plowed no new ground with his remarks, but followed in your own well laid and deep furrows.  You are piling this crap into a high mountain only to hide your bankrupt social and economic policies during the election year.’

But I haven’t heard any Republican of national note make such a statement.  Instead they continue to duck the topic or make candyass clucking sounds about Limbaugh’s “imprudence” while the Democrats’ machine rolls out their mischevious message over middling minds everywhere.

Locally, you can get a snootfull by tuning in to KNCO this morning.

[9mar12 update]  A correspondent sent this little vignette from O'Reilly that summarizes a lot of the background to Ms Flukes purposeful activism.

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172 responses to “The Candyass Republicans (9mar12 update)”

  1. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Call into KNCO.this Wednesday morning. Tom FitzSimmons has preempted Rush to get listener opinions. The switchboards are jammed, but this morning is a chance to keep Rush Limbaugh off the air for at least the entire three hours today. You have to pay for Bill Maher, so Rush and Bill are not comparable. Rush is no more “just an entertainer” than the Tea Party is “just a group of like minded people.” Post anti-Rush Limbaugh (using full name) anywhere you can. It is not a free speech issue, or we’d all have a 3 hour show. Rush can go to 6th and Mission and spout off all he wants, he’d fit right in.

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    You won’t hear them (Repubs) on this for sure. They are ducking for cover and wish it never happened. A gift from above for the Dems who should be on their knees in prayer and appreciation for this gift from Rush and his clones.

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  3. Gregory Avatar

    Limbaugh certainly Fluked himself, and if KNCO thinks they can attract more listeners and sell more advertisement with other programming, they should. I usually tune into KNCO for a time in the morning but the whinefest wasn’t tolerable.
    I suspect they’ll manage to return to their reliable cash cow as long as the milk flows, and this election season is probably not the prime time to send Bessie to the slaughterhouse.
    “It is not a free speech issue, or we’d all have a 3 hour show.”
    Keachie again shows how he misunderstands freedom. Free speech doesn’t mean you have an entitlement to someone else’s printing press. It means the government can’t stop you.

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  4. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    That’s right Greg, but you misunderstand me. Rush has lived by capitalism and he shall die by capitalism, as more and more people make it clear to advertisers than he has his head up his rear end, and it’s pretty dark and gloomy in there. As the American public moves into the 21st century, Rush will go out to pasture, slowly but surely. His future is speaking to inhabitants of elder care facilities. I posted the following to the Facebook page of SPD Market, and most of Facebook KNCO comments are negative towards keeping Rush.
    “Love SPD, don’t want your commercials on during Rush. thanks!”

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  5. Gregory Avatar

    Everyone understood you just fine, Keach. “It is not a free speech issue, or we’d all have a 3 hour show” is spectacularly silly. It’s actually nicely aligned with the current demands that a woman isn’t free to use contraceptives unless the government gives, or compels someone else to give, her the contraceptives.
    From Reason today:
    “Last week Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius said “the Obama administration believes that decisions about medical care should be made by a woman and her doctor, not a woman and her boss.” Yet her boss not only retained the market-distorting, price-inflating tax policies that create an artificial incentive for employer-provided health insurance; he made the connection between employment and medical coverage mandatory, then decreed exactly what it would include, thereby precipitating this whole controversy. If President Obama does not want employers involved in medical coverage, why is he forcing them to be?”
    http://reason.com/archives/2012/03/07/sandra-flukes-protection-racket

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  6. Ryan Mount Avatar

    I don’t get it. Why don’t we just turn him off if we don’t like him? Is there some law or regulation that requires us to listen to that cretin Mr. Limbaugh? Are people incapable (read: too stupid) of turning off their radios?
    I guess I’m missing something. People that like him and his incendiary(IMHO) speech listen to him. Those that don’t, seem to listen to him as well, which is weird.
    Is this some kind of “public/these are our airwaves” complaint? Actually, what the hell is the beef here? What the hell does everyone want? And why?

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  7. Gregory Avatar

    Ryan, Limbaugh’s arguably less incendiary than Olberman, Maddow and Maher are against the right. At least Maddow doesn’t use epithets like “cunt” or “stupid twat” on the air (so far as I know) to describe right wing women she doesn’t like.
    It isn’t that the left wants to retain the right not to listen to Limbaugh, they’ve been exercising that right for years. The left doesn’t want anyone else to listen.

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  8. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    It’s the Great Divide in action. Let all the Repubbys move to northern Idaho, and pay via advertisers up there to have Rush pollute their minds. i like to have our local station stop providing 6 hours of right wing propaganda everyday. Some would prefer 24 hours of rtwg propaganda every day. It’s a difference in opinion. These day anyone who wants to can set up their own radio station on the Internet. You can buy software that makes it a piece of cake to listen to and record all kinds of sources, including Youtube and radio stations all around the planet. Search for AUDials 9.

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  9. Ryan Mount Avatar

    Hi Gregory-
    I don’t care what those cretins say either. I guess you’re point is that there’s a double-standard there. What a surprise, eh? Frankly I don’t care about that either. Stupid is, as stupid does. Too bad P.J. O’Rourke is old and useless now. We could use some of his observations on all of this, if just for a laugh.
    These all seem like silly issues. Are we really that sensitive? Is this the same America that marched onto the beaches of Normandy? Or marched against attacking dogs during the Civil Rights marches? Have we really become huge-ass, whiny, humorless pussies? (Two things: 1) That’s a rhetorical question 2)Is it OK to use “pussy” like this? I guess I’ll find out.)
    We seem have much bigger fish to fry. Seems to me that a Leftie, a “Liberal,” would want a broad spectrum of media noise. But I guess your point is they only want the ones that agree with their agenda. In my mind, that sounds like a Conservative. It’s sad and embarrassing when you think about it.
    I’ll choose not to listen to these blowhards. But then again, I was already was not listening. I choose not to reward bad behavior with my attention.

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    For completeness we should consider the role of blatantly leftwing KVMR as a “voice of the community”. Its political commentary contributors, with perhaps the exception of me, are all from the progressive persuasion. This community has had a choice, at least until now. Greg’s 1209pm is on the mark with “The left doesn’t want anyone else to listen to (Limbaugh).”
    Please don’t misconstrue this as my wanting, say, Amy Goodman off KVMR – au contraire, more power to her and her loyal KVMR audience.
    Re the GD – It is always noteworthy how instinctively the left (e.g. DougK’s 1236pm) identifies “mind pollution” with the right, and considers it pro forma to demand that conservatives move away. As Woody Guthrie sang, ‘This Land is MY Land’, and he did not intend it in the inclusive sense that it was subsequently promoted when his communist sympathies became an embarrassment.

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  11. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    If you don’t like KVMR, don’t join. You want Rush, and it turns out that KNCO no longer finds him, or at least not three hours of him, profitable, you can form a rtwg equivalent to KVMR. Matter of fact, how come you haven’t done that already? Why should my local purchases support a rtwg windbag, any more so than you don’t want to help pay for a coed’s sex life? BTW, your last sentence (George, 12:57) doesn’t really work very well. Who promoted the new meaning?

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  12. Gregory Avatar

    Ryan, the left has slowly squeezed “liberty” from liberal over the last 80 years or so. As popularly understood, Liberal is now indistinguishable from democratic socialist in the body politic.
    If the current Liberal brand goes into a tailspin in New Deal II (cue The Return of the Jedi?) maybe liberal will again be understood as libertarian or Jeffersonian.

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    “any more so than you don’t want to help pay for a coed’s sex life?”
    Keach, you again need your chain pulled… you’ve again missed the point… the Obamacare Approved Insurance Plan requires a christian ministry to pay for whatever contraceptive or abortion service a staffer or student can cajole their doctor to prescribe, without copay or limit.
    They don’t want to, and believe they have the right to refuse. Pretending all insurance companies will provide the benefit for free to institutions that object is so transparently an empty dodge that it shatters the credibility of anyone who manages to utter it with a straight face.
    Nancy needed to pass this legislation so we could see what’s in it. I still can’t see it all but it smells like the dead skunk in the middle of Newtown Road last night.

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  14. Gregory Avatar

    “Let all the Repubbys move to northern Idaho, and pay via advertisers up there to have Rush pollute their minds. i like to have our local station stop providing 6 hours of right wing propaganda everyday.”
    The left wing 9/11 Truthers I know seem to love Coast-to-Coast AM with the foil hat brigade, brought to you on KNCO for more hours than Limbaugh.
    Yes, Keachie and Pelline’s other lickspittles would like everyone not like them to either move away or shut up. Good luck with that.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    “the Obamacare Approved Insurance Plan requires a christian ministry to pay for whatever contraceptive or abortion service a staffer or student can cajole their doctor to prescribe, without copay or limit.
    They don’t want to, and believe they have the right to refuse.”
    So Gregory in general should we have the right to violate Federal law because of religious reasons?
    They may not like the law but there’s lots of laws I don’t like but I can’t violate them without possibly suffering the consequences.

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  16. Ryan Mount Avatar

    Paul wrote: “So Gregory in general should we have the right to violate Federal law because of religious reasons?”
    It’s going to be fascinating to see how the post-New Deal Commerce Clause jurisprudence, which is what this is all about, holds up in the current Supreme Court with all of these health care mandates.
    Care to wager?
    The question seems to be this: can individual inaction (to your point Paul) be regulated. IOW, a lack of commerce or participation which is what the 28 or so States are arguing. That the Commerce Clause does not, and this is critical, apply to transactions that people never entered into.
    OK, how about this for a convenient Straw Man? What if the Federal Government mandated that everyone be required to receive, I dunno, some vaccination shot and some people objected for personal or religious reasons? (unwise in my opinion, but people do it all the time). Should we throw them in jail? Hold them down and stick them with needles? Fine them? Make them live up on the Ridge in quarantined areas? Make them watch Dr. Oz 4 times a week?

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  17. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Yes Greg the PPAC does require religious institutions to provide coverage to people in ‘non-religious functions” consistent with the general rule for health care coverage. This issue has been thoroughly discussed on the previous thread, with specific citation regarding the provisions in the Civil Rights Act as amended in 1972, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Act which require this.
    If you wish to change that you may amend the legislation….which is what the Blunt amendment was trying to do…..through a rider on the Federal Transportation Bill by the way….but I suspect that a week of this nonsense has not only eliminated Republicans chances to amend the law, it has so invigorated the vast majority of women who use or have used contraception (98%) that at least 10% have switched from anti-Obama to anti-Repubican in the last week, and Republicans won’t have a chance to get this through the Senate for at least another 3 years.
    In the mean time the Republican party is so weakened by this, and the fight it exemplifies within the party between the real Republicans versus “Candyass Republicans” (or put another way the Tea Party Republicans versus the traditional Republicans), that voter turnout is down, the party is divided, and the re-elction of the arch-nemisis is almost guaranteed. Ah, the effect of the Tea Party coming home to roost. I have got to love it!

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  18. Brad Croul Avatar

    What is good for the Dixie Chicks is good for the Bloviator. I have heard the Right call for boycotts many a time. They just don’t like it when their Idol is threatened.
    Personally, I think The Blov make some good points, here and there, sometimes. But I tire of the same old rants. I never listen to him by choice, unless he is the only choice between Stockton and Bakersfield, which he pretty much is when you consider the alternative is a bunch of Christian and Mariachi music.
    Do they still call the Blov’s minions Dittoheads?

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  19. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Ryan is precisely right that the PPACA question itself is a commerce clause question (as opposed to what coverages are required which is a EEOC and CRA question). The oral arguments will be held in the SCOTUS on March 26-28. In a relatively unprecedented move the SCOTUS allotted 6 hours for oral arguments.
    The initial briefs in the case have been filed and can be found here under the January 6th posting::
    http://www.lawprofessors.typepad/conlaw/commerce_clause/

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  20. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Here, lets try that again…it appears the link ws not entered correctly:
    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/conlaw/commerce_clause/

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  21. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “hich he pretty much is when you consider the alternative is a bunch of Christian and Mariachi music.” somebody recently described Mariachi music as “techno for the electrically challenged.” Tosh O or one of the others.

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  22. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Occasionally listen to the Coast to Coast show with the same distaste I have for Rush. Non science for the stupids, it’s running rampant on what used to be the History Channel. My tastes run screaming to –> James Burke (born 22 December 1936) is a British broadcaster, science historian, author, and television producer, who is known, among other things, for his documentary television series Connections (1978), and for its more philosophically oriented companion series, The Day the Universe Changed (1985), which is about the history of science and technology. The Washington Post called him “one of the most intriguing minds in the Western world”.[1]

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  23. Gregory Avatar

    In the previous thread, Frisch also tried to ignore that the interstate commerce clause was central to Obamacare.
    While power to create the regulation was given the executive branch by the PPAC/Obamacare law, I believe what passed Congress without a single Republican vote, a bipartisan opposition, and signed by Obama didn’t have the core of what Fluke was testifying for.
    It was the call of Obama’s employees that the third party guide being used allowed them the power to require all insurance policies to provide the coverage, without copay or limit, and require all employers to buy it.
    Paul and Steve, I’ve always thought that unjust laws should be violated by people willing to stand up, fight them, and take the punishment if an unjust system metes it out. Don’t you?

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  24. Gregory Avatar

    Let’s recall that the injection of contraceptives into the debate was by Democratic operative and Clinton lickspittle George Stephanopoulos when it he asked Romney if he thought states could ban them. In four years, maybe Limbaugh should be the moderator for the Democratic Presidential Debates.
    It seemed bizarre at the time, but it was obviously the strategy that the Obamanauts had hit upon to do what Frisch so hopes will work.
    I doubt this topic will stay on top for long.
    BTW, a blast from the past. I recall when women in the Black Panthers asked the leadership what their policy positions should be, Stokely Carmichael replied their position should be “prone”. The hard left has lost a lot of testosterone.

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  25. Steven Frisch Avatar

    I never “tried to ignore that the inter state commerce clause was central to Obamacare”, I stated that the issue relative to the rules the Blunt amendment was trying to amend was the CRA and EEOC. They are two entirely different issues.
    Absolutely unjust laws should be resisted. That’s exactly what I asked about on the other thread: what are you (and the other regressives who post here) willing to do to resist? I would be thrilled if you resist and spend a few days in jail. It’s an experience I would recommend to every red blooded American!

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  26. Gregory Avatar

    Ryan, Dr. Oz 4 times a week would be struck down as cruel and unusual punishment.
    The Interstate Commerce Clause is ripe for a fresh look by the Supremes, and I would not bet against Obamacare being the vehicle for a slapdown.
    Let’s see, a California employee of a California employer is forced to buy specific insurance coverage from a California insurance company that substantially pays for health care delivered by California doctors and technicians, and the interstate commerce clause is the rationale. Say again? And it’s not only the lack of interstate commerce here, but they can even force that California employee to buy if their employer doesn’t provide insurance because the lack of interstate commerce is also being regulated.
    Oh, what a tangled web we weave…

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  27. Gregory Avatar

    “what are you (and the other regressives who post here)”
    Fluke you, Frisch.

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  28. Gregory Avatar

    I forgot to mention the name calling apparently “progressive” Stephen Frisch is the President and CEO of the wretchedly misnamed Sierra Business Council, a position he is uniquely qualified for by his experience as an executive chef and Cal State BA in polysci, and one of the few (only?) six figure salaried non profit administrators in the Sierra Nevada.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Greg maybe we are progressive regressive? LOL! Frisch likes jail eh? Well maybe there is a good reason. Perhaps Fluke and her desire for taxpayer money is the true connection he as with her since that is his bag. As far as his failed restaurant, that is something you must ask the three levels of government about.

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar

    Since the question has been raised that the law should be resisted on religious grounds is a Christian or
    Buddhist pacifist, for example, be justified in not paying taxes for war because of religious reasons?
    “the Obamacare Approved Insurance Plan requires a christian ministry to pay for whatever contraceptive or abortion service a staffer or student can cajole their doctor to prescribe, without copay or limit.
    They don’t want to, and believe they have the right to refuse.””

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    That was from Gregory 07 March 2012 at 01:55 PM

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  32. Gregory Avatar

    Todd, there really isn’t a “we” here… I consider myself a liberal and am just waiting for the coersive left to abandon the label. In the meantime, I’m comfortable relating to my Neanderthal-American friends and neighbors who find the two faced Frisches to be a big part of the problem.
    🙂

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    That’s OK Greg, I found a mouse in my pocket.

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  34. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    How many levels of government and banks do you have to ask to find out about Todd’s failed house?
    Greg is having such fun with his new vocabulary find. I can’t help but think of LickGiggle every time I see it, and sometimes even LickGreggle. Finding such a word with it’s obvious homosexual undertones, and dancing with it daily, is very funny. Lick rhymes with Dick, and spittle just screams, “one eyed midget” and “NOW!” and the resulting outflow. Wonder why he is so obsessed?

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  35. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Let him use the term again, and I’ll just reference him as “Lickspittle Greg,” in each successive post.
    Muddball Fight! or is it a Spittleball Fight?

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  36. billy T Avatar

    Ah, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Just came home to some laughs. Progressive regressives? That”s a good one. Dittos, mega dittos. Perhaps Rush and Ms. Fluke can get together and settle this matter like two consenting adults. He could call her slut, slut, slut and she could call him pig, pig, pig. I still think this whole thing is now about abortion and putting those bigoted people of faith in their place. Sure, government has every right to tell religions what they can and cannot practice. Yeah, right. And government has to right to force me to buy a product simply cause I am breathing air and a condition of residency? Yeah, right. Hm. Voting is a choice. Driving a vehicle is a choice. Not buying a product is a choice…oppps, government can tell me I have to buy something? I think not. I thought the Constitution is a document that basically contains prohibitions on what government can do. A lot of words spelling out what government cannot do. Guess I should say “I thought the Constitution WAS…..Oh, I see the grease gun lubing them squeaky wheels…squirt squirt, ah, libs, do ya feel better now?

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  37. billy T Avatar

    Double standard? Bull pucky. Nothing to see here, move on2364_100000846429384_949422_1717167481_n

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  38. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Btecha never seen a CandyAss Republican before:

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  39. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    This entire subject has been very educational about who the real liberals are. Thank you Billy T. You said it right. I listened to KNCO this morning it was wonderful. The guy who said he didn’t alwaysagree with Rush, but listened anyway because the program stimulates thinking. I’ve always noticed that. In fact when I first heard Rush I thought it was great to hear the rest of the story…another side of issues. I consider myself a real liberal because I enjoy listening and learning all kinds of things. It’s wonderful not to have someone dictating how I should think. If you don’t like Rush just turn him off, but don’t make it so we can’t listen to him. I don’t particularly like Letterman’s insulting behavior at times, but others do. Plenty of insults on the current subject from those who claim to be open minded and despise dictators. Very interesting double standard.

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  40. John Galt Avatar

    Yes Bonnie, we’re re-learning the truth about just how tolerant liberals are.
    But in addition to debating with our self-described expert on “Women’s Rights”, Douglas Keachie, and others with his same persuasion–let’s be sure to take the time to email Tom@KNCO.com and express our support for Rush.
    Keep it brief, and include the word “Rush” and “Keep” in your subject line.
    Pass the word.
    –John Galt.

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  41. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    We are just as tolerant of Rush as you are of Obama.
    Perfect Symmetry.

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  42. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Perhaps not allowing medical insurance sales across state lines will be PPACA’s Achilles heel? How ironic.
    For a tutorial on “regressive progressives,” please see my comment over at RL Crabb’s site. Sorry, I have to be terse tonight since I had my first NCLL practice this afternoon…
    Keach, your crayons are leaking. Did you leave the caps off or something??

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  43. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “today Rush Limbaugh tried to drag me into this bullshit he caused…. 4 wives, he’s had no children. Dude, you ARE birth control….SuperPac has to give money back because I sometimes called Sarah Palin a bad name….This analogy breaks down in so many ways. First, I’m on HBO, {no advertisers needed}” ~ Bill Maher ~
    I am reviewing latest Bill Maher show to find the part where Maher attacks liberals for attacking Rush, still haven’t found it.
    Goofing around and learning new stuff about Photoshop, Michael. It looks really zippy as a small icon.
    “USA! USA!” from an all white team to an all Hispanic backgrounded team in Texas, well what exactly is that supposed to mean? In that context? Give me a break, the POTUS had not just arrived on the scene. At least the coach had enough sense to understand what it meant.

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    A just released poll by the WSJ/NBC News of 800 women across the country is a mixed bag for just about any interpretation. I found this in the article to be very revealing. I am searching for the underlying data since the results are quite a mixed bag of goo.
    From the Politco article,
    “The poll also found overall support for the president’s contraception coverage mandate, with 53 percent of those surveyed approving of the federal requirement that employers cover birth control as part of a package for preventive services for women. One third opposed it.
    Support split — 43 pro and 43 against — when respondents were told specifically that the coverage includes the “morning after pill.” And it dropped to 38 percent when respondents were asked about how they felt about the same requirement for religious employers, even if insurance companies picked up the costs.”
    So if I was trying to interpret this I would say the Prez is in deep trouble. We see now why he and democrats changed the subject from forcing the Roman Catholic Church to supply condoms to the broader issue of government supplied condoms in general. These polls are meaningless since the election is far down the road and there will be many more issues discussed.
    What I find fascinating though is the left, even the local lefty bloggers, latch on to this stuff and run with it as if it were cast on concrete. If only 38% of the polls female (<320 out of 800 polled)respondents favored the government shoving their contraceptive mandates on to religious folks, I would say that proves the liberals are in the minority by a long shot. But those liberals in my view do not understand the reality of this in their fogged over state to boot Limbaugh.

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  45. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Todd, what are you willing to wager that Obama will lose in November? I’ve already got one bet that will result in Hospitality House getting richer by $100 of someone elses money when Obama does win.

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  46. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “The Republican Party is doubling down on the birtherism…They are what they are….”
    “The Republican Party is Rush Limbaugh, the establishment is Glenn Beck, is Sean Hannity….they hijacked the party.
    ~ James Carville ~
    BTW, the coloration of my graphic is very much like the coloration of a clown car.

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  47. Michael Anderson Avatar

    “BTW, the coloration of my graphic is very much like the coloration of a clown car.”
    Oh c’mon Keach, lighten up. I was just giving you a gentle poke in the ribs. Why the need to wear your serious pants all the time?

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