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George Rebane

VanJonesWe know that this formerly proud communist has been busy since he had to be jettisoned by Team Obama, but all that has been relatively sub-rosa.  Now the newly-minted Marxist in mufti is on his ascent to the top of the pile located somewhere beyond the American Left.  The man again deserves a feature article – ‘The Return of the Rabble Rouser’ – in the 21nov11 Time magazine that celebrates his political rebirth.

Mr Jones has been working on his American Dream Movement to bring socialist change to America.  His message has been embraced by no less than the Center for Community Change, “one of the left’s most active institutions”, and funded by Soros’ moveon.org.  Cheered on by a slew of Democratic notables like Nancy Pelosi (“Van Jones has made it his life’s work to speak truth to power.”), Jones is looking at the occupiers of OWS as his next legion of action-ready acolytes.

Joining in with labor unions and various leftist NGOs, Jones plans to organize and focus the occupiers into a cohesive voice akin to the tea party movement, and then make an impact on the 2012 elections.  His vision for our country is more than scary, “You talk about the Arab Spring, we could be on the verge of an American Autumn.”   Now American Autumn is about as open and as stark a translation of the promised “fundamental transformation” that I have heard.  This man and his fellow ideologues do not like what they see in our land (“banksters … the worst people in the world”), and they intend to finally marshal the masses to do something about it.

So there will be movement afoot.  One of the more significant asymmetries between the Left and Right is how they evolve in times of stress.  Leftwing movements transit through various stages of collectivism into regimes that finally dispense with their opponents through wholesale slaughter programs like the ‘Kulak liquidation’, ‘Final Solution’, ‘Re-education Camps’, ‘Great Leap Forward’, ‘Cultural Revolution’, or simply the ‘Killing Fields’.  The Rightwing efforts that promote values based on preserving the Bastiat Triangle of rights are co-opted by movements that trade individual liberty for promises of economic security, or the Right just fades away because its people are busy minding their own business.  Collectivists march, conservatives mumble.

So in the coming months we can look forward to that handsome, energetic, and loquacious Van Jones, organizing and leading those upturned faces with fuzzy minds not able to formulate the crisp thoughts and obvious conclusions with which he will provide them.  And then they will seek to be the next generation that is again dissatisfied with the pace and direction of human progress, and in the process militating for a change that they will make their own.

Yesterday they started with a nationwide series of coordinated strikes and demonstrations.  They are on their way, it would be foolish to dismiss him.

[update]  Communism (11%) is more popular than Congress (9%) in America.  These CBS poll results were highlighted this morning on NPR, not once, but from two journalists’ reports in a single segment.  The fringe of communism always becomes more prominent when socialism establishes itself.  The duty of progressives high and low is to turn up the volume of denial when this happens – ‘No, no, no, don’t look behind the curtain!’.  Desperation and ignorance join to make this evil extreme of collectivism again look good.  One out of nine people believing anything is a significant faction in a society.

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103 responses to “Van Jones – he’s baaaack! (updated)”

  1. Mario Guanero Avatar
    Mario Guanero

    What happened to the doctored Obama salute image, cracker?
    Mister “issues” intellectual shows his true colors for a split second, huh?
    (no worry, I saved it) [A heads-up from a reader demonstrated that the image had been photoshopped. Therefore I removed it. gjr]
    As we draw closer to the elections, the smell of desperation is again permeating these pages.
    All that’s missing is the dixie flag from this wingnut circle jerk.
    Get ready for the hard slap of reality, obstructionists. Keep fielding losers and you’ll just cement your defeat.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    You are right George, you cannot dismiss him. He did rub elbows with the most powerful man on the planet and held a position in his administration so we know Jones can move on up. What is reliable about the left is they never “let a bad thing” go to waste. They have their little pot stirrers out their at every protest, getting those minds of mush agitated to do their bidding. Lately though, the alternative medias allow Americans to see and hear the misguided left and as we know, they make up about 20% of the country, politically speaking, and headed south.
    The liberal game is on the ropes and Time and Newsweek are as well. Those once great magazines are now simply a mouthpiece for leftwing propaganda, too bad.

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  3. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    He can “move on up”, eh? That’s pretty uppity of him! Now why would you chose to use that term Todd? Little tongue in cheek humor? code? trying to elicit a response?
    Let’s all just turn a blind eye to this, OK? I mean really, these words have multiple meanings, and if anyone takes them to be code they are the racists?
    RL will quickly jump in to say someone is being too politically correct, that this is an example of liberal excess, them calm down until the next person comes along in a week or two and refers to our President as, “Dyn-o-might”!

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  4. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    The Ella Baker Center for Human Rights was started by Van Jones, Obama’s former Green Job Czar, a declared Communist who wants to destroy Capitalism. He proposed that environmental laws be used as the wrecking ball to destroy capitalism and launched a web site and media campaign against Prop 23, which was the initiative to resend AB32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006.
    Now it looks like he has a new mission, with the AB32 on it’s way to being fully implemented, forcing California energy cost to soar in January 2012, which will force business out of California. The real question, is will he be as successful in organizing OWS into an army of the unwashed for Obama as he was in the destruction of Prop 23. Stay tuned.

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  5. Mike Thornton Avatar

    I was at the Rebuild the Dream conference in DC. and the “Gang of 8” has every reason to be afraid of Jones!. He’s smart, articulate and charismatic. The fact is that Rebuild the Dream is the beginning of an authentic progressive populist movement (unlike the Koch funded, Tea Party). So this time the paranoid, under the bed shivering exhibited here is justified. And as Frisch points out, you guys just can’t refrain from throwing the race grenade. You just can’t do it!

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    MikeT – The fear of Jones’ and his message is fairly widespread across the land. RR long ago identified the power of this communist to rally the masses. BTW, enlighten us all on your “throwing the race grenade” remark. Usually the Left uses that to camouflage a weak argument, but your argument here seems strong enough. Did you just throw it in gratuitously?
    Koch funded? Soros funded?

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  7. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    Oh my god you lefties find “dog whistles” in every thing that conservative write. Do you look under the bed every night looking for the monsters that lurk in your mind. You need to examine how you analyze what we write and your own motivations. Let’s not highjack this discussion with a bunch of racial charges, that have noting to do with the left highjacking the OWS Movement and turning it into an unwashed army for Obama..

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  8. Russ Steele Avatar

    OWS Protester: In a Few Days You’re Going to See What a Molotov Cocktail Can Do to Macy’s
    Ain’t no more talking, They got guns we got bodies. They got bricks we got rocks. Let’s see what they got.
    I want them…I want them to make that decision so they can see…in a few days you going to see what a molotov cocktail can do to Macy’s.”

    I wonder if this is kind of action that Van Jones is planning for the rest of us. Is this why our local left thinks that we should be scared of Van Jones. Do they have some inside information, did they get a call to action memo?

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  9. Mike Thornton Avatar

    TJ Writes:
    “we know Jones ‘can move on up’”
    This is clearly a reference to the TV show the Jeffersons about a social climbing Black man (and his family)
    George: I know you’re not stupid. Why do you pretend to be?
    Are you really blind to the race baiting references that your RR buddies throw out on a daily basis or do you feel like you’re the Dad and have to protect them from their own stupid statements?
    Truthfully in the end it makes YOU look like the one who is disingenuous an out of touch.

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  10. Mike Thornton Avatar

    Russ:
    Are you taking on the role of TJ’s big brother now, since George has dad wrapped up?

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  11. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    I remember one hard left, progressive friend of mine informing me that George Bush invaded Iraq because Saddam was for universal health care and equal rights for women; he was a big fan of Thornton’s “news” at KVMR, which may be where he picked up that news turd. Haven’t talked to him for awhile, but did see him holding up a sign at the recent local “Occupy the Broad St. bridge” shenanigans.
    I don’t fear the Thorntons and Jones of the world. I disagree with them, and stand up to them. Democrats in general and Obama and Pelosi in particular own the Occupy movement, having expressed approval. As a strategic positioning, the Rebanes and Steeles of the country should rejoice in the news from Van Jones… a replay of the Chicago ’72 Democratic Convention should help the Republican nominee, whoever they are. The riots in Chicago didn’t hurt Republicans at all; Nixon won, despite my vote for McGovern.
    Occupy Charlotte in 2012. Should be interesting. The more the Occupy movement pulls left, the harder it will be for Democrats to appear centrist in 2012, and this is a center-right country. Hard left loses.
    News on Kudlow & Co. last night was that Ron Paul was in a 4 way statistial dead heat between Paul, Cain, Gingrich and Romney in the Iowa caucuses. We live in interesting times. Maybe Paul will get more than 89 seconds of airtime out of the next 90 minute debate.

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  12. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    OWS / Van Jones trans warp fail!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRf1zI2IoWQ

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  13. RL Crabb Avatar

    Steve F. -Oh, I’m sure Todd likes to use references that will get your dander up. I only like to point out that the other side gets away with it all the time. Like calling someone a “cracker”. Are you telling me that’s not a racial, bigoted term? Where’s the outrage?

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The last hiding place for a liberal losing the argument is to call our racism. What a hoot.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I have been studying the tax returns of SBC at the AG’s website as recommended by Frisch. Wow, ar they in big trouble.

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  16. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    GregG 831am – From your mouth to God’s ear; may your calming words bear fruit. I have a hard time equating 1968 to 2012 – too much of the world has changed and is different. The Great Society has had four decades to warp American values and mores. Jones and the more benign (and clueless) progressives have a lot of ignorance, and now economic desperation, to tap.

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  17. Russ Steele Avatar

    Here is a little insight from Hot Air
    Looks like the party’s over — and I’m not talking about the Tea Party.  Democratic pollster PPP’s new national survey shows support dropping dramatically for the Occupy movement.  In fact, it now ranks below the national support for the much-maligned conservative grassroots movement:
    The Occupy Wall Street movement is not wearing well with voters across the country. Only 33% now say that they are supportive of its goals, compared to 45% who say they oppose them. That represents an 11 point shift in the wrong direction for the movement’s support compared to a month ago when 35% of voters said they supported it and 36% were opposed. Most notably independents have gone from supporting Occupy Wall Street’s goals 39/34, to opposing them 34/42.
    Voters don’t care for the Tea Party either, with 42% saying they support its goals to 45% opposed.  But asked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.

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  18. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Thornton, don’t be deterred by Russ’ post. The falling Occupy poll numbers just means you need to be more earnest, more strident. Never give up, never surrender.

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  19. Mikey McD Avatar

    “He’s smart, articulate and charismatic” the same was said of Hitler.

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  20. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    I don’t worry too much about their threats. Everyone is so interconnected now that when someone from the progressive / left persuasion clams to be “middle of the road”, young people above the age of 13 just laugh.

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  21. Mikey McD Avatar

    Still waiting for answers from the progressives:
    What should be the punishment for a 30 year old father of 3 who knowingly chooses not to contribute 10.4% of ‘his’ wages to social security?

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  22. mike thornton Avatar

    Wow, it doesn’t take much to get the “Gang of 8” to come rushing out of the woodwork to make ridiculous statements.
    Let’s examine a couple of them. The Tea Party has fallen under the weight of it’s own extremisms and lack of connection with the issues that the public is concerned about, while OWS has been literally attacked by the police and driven out with tear gas and at gun point. With, by the way (apparent) coordination and support from the Obama administration (so there goes that RR conspiracy theory!)
    The OWS story isn’t over yet. So we still need to see what happens.
    One of GG’s friends is an idiot and he tries to blame me for it. He’s your buddy GG, not mine! I never said anything close to what you’re trying to smear me with, but as usual that doesn’t matter to you, or to the Regressives here.
    TJ Writes:
    “The last hiding place for a liberal losing the argument is to call our racism. What a hoot”
    Mind you now, he clearly doesn’t deny the racisim, he just objects to liberals calling him on “our” racism. So who is this “our”? I guess he must mean himself and the rest of the “Gang of 8”? You know, the truth is I feel a little sorry for George and Russ. Playing nursemaid and nanny for TJ, has got to be exhausting! So once again, who is losing the argument? As usual it’s the “Gang of 8”!

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Reading the left here proves it. What a hoot!

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  24. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Mikey, don’t be silly. That father of 3 doesn’t have a choice. If he works for someone else, his employer will confiscate the money and send it to DC. If he works for himself, if he falsifies his tax returns, they’ll get him as if he was a modern day Al Capone. Tax evasion.
    When I was a child, seniors were the poorest segment of society. In the progressive modern era, the AARP markets Winnebagos and Carribean cruises to the old, and the poorest segment of society are the young. Of course, oldsters used to not want to be a burden on their own children. That’s been solved, now they’re a burden on everyone else’s children.
    Redistribution of wealth is harder than it looks.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    Russ 908am – Thanks for adding the poll data to the dialogue – it’s important and on the point. My only concern is that public opinion, especially of those in the unanchored middle, is highly volatile (as you also point out). We may be taking comfort too early. I am especially concerned of the large fraction of people who have literally no idea of what the tea party movement is about, or how it is structured. The lamestream and Left have been very successful in portraying their caricature of this admittedly Rightwing movement. It will take more than one molotov from the occupiers to make the center wake up and take notice.
    For a perspective of how the Left, led by the radicals like Jones and its ‘reasonable’ contingent with people like Robert Reich, plan to make the case to their nominated aggrieved cohort, one just needs to go read truthout.com. And as ToddJ points out on his blog, Leftwingers like Pelosi immediately leap on the lamestream, should they fall out of (party) line even slightly. See her call ’60 Minutes’ a “rightwing smear” operation when they included her shenanigans on insider trading with those of all the Republicans. Steering the country toward hardcore socialism is entering the full court press phase.

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  26. Mikey McD Avatar

    Dear progressives,
    What should be the punishment for a 30 year old father of 3 who knowingly chooses not to contribute 10.4% of ‘his’ wages to social security?
    Greg Goodnight, thanks. I guess the left thinks my question was rhetorical.

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  27. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen of the Left – I note again that you launch into denigrating the messengers while leaving the message unattended. This is most visible in your almost hardwired dredging up of the racist issue. You seem so preoccupied with race that you see a connection to racism in almost everything that conservatives say, even if you have to manufacture a gossamer thin connection yourself to raise that point.
    The proposition of this post is that Leftwing populism, focused now on the occupiers, is becoming more radicalized with the re-emergence of leaders like Van Jones and academics like Robert Reich stoking income and class as dividers. If you have nothing pro/con to add to this, then please stifle yourselves.

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  28. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Mike Thornton said:
    “I was at the Rebuild the Dream conference in DC.”
    “Van Jones’s Rebuild the Dream group is employing tiny tots to push a progressive liberal agenda in a new video.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G7L3xpElK0Y
    I guess little Mike Thornton was just out of the shot!

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    DavidK – now that is a scary YouTube video. Leftwing propaganda and lies put in the mouths of children, and all funded by George Soros.

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  30. mike thornton Avatar

    You guys really are delusional aren’t you?
    You just spout your stuff and move on like none of it was said.
    And God, George, after your ringing endorsement of Alex Jones, you’re now quoting Sarah Palin?
    When it comes to “stroking income and class as ‘dividers’”, they are “dividers” George!
    I get it that you and the “Gang of 8” don’t want anyone pointing out that the Top 1% control over 40% of the wealth in this country, because God forbid that the 99% start demanding a bigger piece of the pie.
    So you see what Reich and Jones and OWS are doing as bad and (as usual) “Communist”. I see it as conciousness raising and “Democratic”!

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  31. mike thornton Avatar

    And while we’re at it, take a look at what’s happening to the OWS folks at the hands of the police.
    I’m sure you’ll be particularly happy about the 84 year old grandmother getting shot in the face with pepper spray!
    http://news.yahoo.com/pregnant-teen-elderly-woman-among-pepper-sprayed-113054448.html
    Maybe they can start waterboarding them next, eh?

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  32. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Bullhockey Russ, and RL, this was a clear racial reference by Todd, intended to stir up angry dialogue, and I merely named it for what it was. To think or contend otherwise is just transparently nonsensical.

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  33. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Mike Thornton said:
    “I see it as conciousness raising and “Democratic”!”
    Only a progressive would call the brainwashing of childern; “conciousness raising”.

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  34. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    children not childern sorry.

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  35. mike thornton Avatar

    Who is talking about “brainwashing children”?
    Once again you guys cherry pick something and then try and spin it as though it’s the totality.

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  36. mike thornton Avatar

    Gee, articulate, happy kids talking sense is “brainwashing:???
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G7L3xpElK0
    I forgot, you guys want our children to get the “Taliban Treatment” when it comes to education.

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  37. Mikey McD Avatar

    Dear progressives,
    What should be the punishment for a 30 year old father of 3 who knowingly chooses not to contribute 10.4% of ‘his’ wages to social security?

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  38. Mikey McD Avatar

    I am glad that the progressives keep bringing up the race card. Racism or any other form of discrimination is morally wrong. It is however hypocritical to be against discriminatiion based on race and a proponent of discriminating individuals based on income (progressive tax).
    In the schoolyard you are telling kids that skin colors are equal, but the rich kids should be teased and bullied.

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  39. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Report: 80% of DOE Green Energy Loans Went to Obama Backers
    Must be a progressive coincidence! 🙂
    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/14/report-80-of-doe-green-energy-loans-went-to-obama-backers/
    Wasn’t Van Jones the Green energy Czar?

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  40. mike thornton Avatar

    Mikey:
    Read the thread and then ask yourself who actually brought the race card up.
    Oh don’t bother, you’ll just lie about it anyway.
    Gee, King, the way you guys suck up to the fossil fuel industry, maybe it’s only progressives that are willing to work on alternative energy solutions…
    And, oh my God, political contributors are getting government contracts…
    I’m sure that never happened be for the “Manchurian Muslim” got elected!

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  41. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Mike,
    Do you really want to go down the road of progressives and race? Because I’d be happy to oblige you.
    Here’s a little taste:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ZWdX6Z5T4

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  42. mike thornton Avatar

    No, I’m just simply pointing out that (once again) it was one of the “Gang of 8” that threw race into the debate and then TJ stuck his foot in his mouth (again) by dubling down and complaining that Liberals “call our racism”, which is exactly what happend here!
    Don’t you know that for every video you post trying to prove your point, I can find two the prove mine? Man you guys just never give up! Why don’t you just say; “Yeah it was stupid for TJ to have done that.” But you guys simply can’t do it!
    Now I’ll watch you video, which I’m sure will be ridiculous and/or taken out of context. I’ll be back…..

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  43. mike thornton Avatar

    OK, I watched it and the conclusion I come to is, that you’re either way too high to be responsible for your actions or that you’re an idiot.
    How anybody (other than someone who has real issues) can watch that video and come to the conclusions you seem to have come too is, frankly, crazy!
    This is simply another example of how the “Gang of 8” discredits itself on a daily basis!

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    MikeT keep on trucking here, you are a excellent example of why the left is toast in our political and moral system.

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  45. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Thornton, my delusional friend relied mostly on KVMR news, along with Pacifica. Mostly VMR. Plenty of loose nuts in both places. He was able to hear what he wanted to hear. He knew he couldn’t trust the Bee, The Union, even the Chronicle to give him the truth.
    He isn’t the “99%”.
    He’s the 10% on the hard left who believes you.

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  46. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Mike said:
    “OK, I watched it and the conclusion I come to is, that you’re either way too high to be responsible for your actions or that you’re an idiot.”
    UN Displaces 20,000 African Farmers to Mitigate Global Warming
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezsUyvsv4A
    Shall we go to Margaret Sanger and her feelings on race.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic
    or
    Rachel Carson and the number of minorty children that have died due to her.
    The simpletons guide to DDT & Rachel Carson (YouTube name)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uARFfWFcV5A
    You know I don’t mind you calling me an idiot, but you should know that the ability of progressives to get away with lying about issues is over.

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  47. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Cute kids in the Contract for the American Dream video. Kids love fairy tales.
    I especially loved the ‘teensy little tax’ to be levied on equities market transactions. Would raise huge amounts of money that could buy all this good stuff. The unintended but obvious side effect…Can anyone dream up a scheme that would drive capital out of America faster than that?
    BTW Thornton, drop the race card. You’re the only one playing it that I can see.

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  48. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Thornton… the bios I’ve found of you don’t say a word about your education. Dropout? GED? HS diploma? some college? Yale Law?

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  49. mike thornton Avatar

    Gee, King, you’ve discovered that there are some folks who believe that the Global North (yes largely white Europeans) have exploited the Global South (largely people of color) Man, you are really onto something…… this must clearly be an Obama led conspiracy.
    GG, you need to talk to your boy TJ, not me!
    And, whatever my education level is or where it comes from, I take great comfort in knowing that I’m at least as smart as you!

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