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[This is the submitted version of my October column that appeared in the 8oct11 print and online editions of The Union.]

This column has long argued that the American worker is at a distinct disadvantage when compared to workers in emerging economies, and especially when compared to what the American demands as compensation to maintain his ‘right’ to a high standard of living.

The left has fastened on to the premise that it is the failure of markets that has caused the current glut of workers and high unemployment rate.  This failure must be fixed by more government flexing its muscles to tax, regulate, and spend (sorry, “stimulate”) to create jobs.  Supply side economics is anathema to the crowd in Washington, and we are back to government attempting to create jobs through demand side (Keynesian) policies.

This didn’t work during the Great Depression – FDR’s 17.1% unemployment rate in 1939 was the same as the one he inherited in 1933.  It was the dynamic trio of Hitler, Stalin, and Tojo who showed how to work the demand side of Keynesianism – after September 1939 everyone was able to find government jobs.

Earlier this week I woke up to an NPR interview of a venture capitalist and a fellow of the Competitive Enterprise Institute.  Lynn Neary, the liberal interviewer, wanted to know what was wrong with the Occupy Wall Street crowd’s belief that (government) creating jobs would lead to “growth and prosperity”.  In vain, Bill Frezza of CEI attempted to convince NPR that the popular notion of ‘first jobs, then prosperity’ was a myth.


As those who have operated companies know, you don’t go into business to create jobs.  Jobs are an outgrowth of a well-managed business.  And if you ‘create’ too many jobs too fast, you go out of business.

Ms Neary pressed Mr Frezza hard about what to her seemed like a foregone conclusion – the prime purpose of a business was the social objective of creating jobs.   She and so many millions like her are incredulous that jobs are counted as a cost to a business, and that businesses are started to provide goods and services to customers in exchange for revenues that might contain a profit.  Her unsupported point was that businesses have a higher social responsibility than serving their customers and making a profit.

Mr Frezza patiently explained that successful businesses create jobs as a laudable social byproduct, but not as their reason for existence.  And the more successful businesses there are, the more jobs are created for people, but never forget that the prime responsibility a business has is to its customers and owners (shareholders).   None of this made sense to the NPR lady.

She is not alone in her disillusionment in how businesses work in an economy.  Today this ignorance starts at the top and spreads far and wide across the countryside.  President Obama and the socialist crew he has assembled have no experience in doing anything other than cashing government checks.  They don’t know how the “millionaires and billionaires” come by their cash.  All they know is that these greedy and selfish people are the enemy, and that they must be taxed back to some acceptable level of corrigibility.

So as the government does everything possible to derail a recovery, the frustrated, ignorant, and miseducated are predictably beginning to gather in the streets to once more protest capitalism and demand something that they can’t yet quite put their arms around.  Rushing to these little fires with buckets of gasoline are the Michael Moores and Van Joneses bringing old ‘solutions’ that have cost tens of millions of lives and ruined hundreds of millions more.

Van Jones, the self-declared communist and former administration ‘Green Czar’, has put together a conference of progressives called ‘Rebuild the Dream’ designed to foment “a real middle class uprising”.  These people simply cannot accept an economic recovery in America.  Their whole movement will fall apart.  No one will assemble in the streets if they have jobs to go to, and no one will want to work for the “fundamental transformation” that Obama promised us.  These agitators will then have to either get a real job, or wind up in some backwater NGO begging for government grants with which to plan their next revolution.

In the meantime, most of the country is fervently hoping that the self-serving politicians and bureaucrats in Washington will settle down and stop trying to create jobs using ideas and tools that have never worked, and have only caused grief for those who know how a real job creating economy works.

George Rebane is an entrepreneur and a retired systems scientist in Nevada County who regularly expands these and other themes on KVMR and Rebane’s Ruminations (www.georgerebane.com).

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245 responses to “Misunderstanding Job Creation”

  1. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    So your the next on the Progressive line up? It didn’t work out so hot for the first two. Let’s see how long it takes for you to run off with your tail between your legs.

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  2. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Rich People paying other Rich People to tell Middle Class People to blame Poor People”
    No!…to blame the stupid.
    Ban 25c light bulbs for $5.00 Chinese bulbs.
    $5.00 rescue inhalers for $50.oo (ozone hole)
    Higher gas prices (energy)(Global Warming)
    Don’t you listen to em Mike, if they tell you to hold your breath.

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  3. Mike Thornton Avatar

    Blah, blah, blah…..

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  4. Mike Thornton Avatar

    By the way. I’m done here (for now)
    Go back into Tea Bag world and have a nice night!

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  5. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    See what I mean?

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  6. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    What? the smell fest?

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  7. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Hey, I know, let’s ban minning for rare earth elements. That way we can’t compete with China for “Green Tech”. Stop me; them good ideas just keep aflowing outa me.
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/molycorp-strikes-rare-earth-elements-in-california-2011-10-04

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    I see the left can’t hack it when their theories about life are shown to be crap. The new leftwingnut mantra is the 99% get screwed by the 1%, corporations are bad, rich is bad, capitalism is bad. My desire is these leftwingnuts try their desires in say North Korea or Cuba.
    Yes we are all pissed the big banks got the money and Main Street got the shaft but we are trying to fix it. The smelly dirt bags at the “protest” (paid for by unions) and the twelve people who turned out in Sacramento have no clue how humans interact with one another. I listen to them being interviewed by the press and they all sound like Thornton. Not a clue about anything. They live in a country where even the poorest family has two color TV’s and a microwave. Many have an Iphone. Food is plentiful. What is lacking is their desire to work. I think the “progressives” should saunter on down to the valley at harvest time and do some work and stop crying like little spoiled babies.
    Greg, we all know who Walt is so lighten up.

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  9. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    That didn’t take long,LOL!!
    Anyone know if Mike is better off than me? ( Been jobless for longer than I care to remember so that should be an easy call) If he is, I have a little test to see if he is a “real” progressive.
    Just pipe up when your ready for the exam. ( No rubber glove required)( well,,,,,maybe)

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  10. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Speaking of Progressives and just how well they know how to crea…I mean snuff jobs, Maybe we should start the recall of Brown
    right here in Nevada County. With the bills he just signed into law,
    he donned his jackboots and put his boot heal on the throat of parental rights, to gun rights, and a slew of others in between.
    What a better county, than one shaped like a pistol?
    Hay Mike.,,, This is your Progressive at work. The state is more screwed up than ever. We got suckered with Arnold, but good. We found out the hard way the he was a lying Progressive to his core.
    So now we see how your side works.
    We will not be slaves to the state.( just like you hope for)
    Are you a good party member in high standing?( you may think you are)But if your not connected to just the right people, you might get tasked with some low position in a dark, cold, room writing propaganda material.( been pretty good at that so far) So don’t piss off your handlers. ( that’s what happens in a Socialist, Marxist labor world) Now that’s progressive job creation.
    I have a living escapee from that system in my house as I speak
    Maybe you would like to see the scare a Soviet bullet left in her leg as she made the run across no mans land in the dead of night.
    ( TRUE STORY PAL)

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  11. bill tozer Avatar
    bill tozer

    Off topic bill again….did anyone read the Union’s new poll? Do you blame Wall Street for our economic woes? Lets see. Wall Street does not engage in green policy, minimum wage, living wage policy, food stamps, unemployment, employment policy, ad infinitum. But government did set policy by strongly encouraging banks and brokers to gobble up sub prime slime and liars loans and ignore the risk. Appears our gov’t backed Fannie and Freddy, who themselves write no mortgages. They just buy the slime as quickly as they can from the likes of Country Wide, and off them on Wall Street with the taxpayer’s guarantee that we are responsible for standing behind this toxic paper. Wall St folks are smart enough to know bad paper when they see it, so they figured out a way to package them up and off them to pension funds, foreign governments and little ole teacher’s unions. Score one for Wall St for selling American toxic paper to the Chinese. Serves them right for putting anti-freeze in our dog food. An eye for an eye if you will. Then the big insurance companies took it in the rear when those pension funds bought insurance for defaults. So, the insurance companies threaten no mass to insuring Franny and Freddy’s ass wipe paper. No insurance, no buying the gov’t backed mortgages. So, AGI got money to keep the whole ball of wax together so gov’t could continue buying poor little Mr. & Mrs. low life’s mortgage. Without that taxpayer backing, who would loan to undeserving pieces of grunt? So, blame Wall St all you want. Its the puck buckets in Washington that pushed Fanny and Freddie into doing their evil deeds and now we all suffer. Blame should be placed at the feet of Chris Dodd, Lispy Frank and every president from Carter to this latest clown.

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  12. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Thanks Bill for dumbing it down to the point where it’s barely within a Progressives point of understanding. But they may have lost a little in the prosess when taking a bong hit or two.

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  13. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Mike T, is a “dupe” anything like a “running-dog lackey”? I miss the old tyme rhetoric.
    I suspect the demonize business and Wall Street tact will last until all the middle class savers and union members (public and private) figure out that’s where their pension funds are invested.

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  14. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Ready for that test yet Mike?

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  15. Mikey McD Avatar

    Whining About Wealth
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/96280.html
    “Am I the only one getting tired of the economically-ignorant whining about how the top ____% own a large (i.e., “unfair) portion of the “wealth” in the United States?”

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  16. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    George, You still there?

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  17. bill tozer Avatar
    bill tozer

    I think I got it, maybe. The take to the streets protesters are 99ers. Ya know, those who had their 26 weeks on unemployment checks extended to 99 weeks. Or is it 99%ers? That includes all of us poor folk here since I have not seen The Oracle of Omaha nor Billy Gates or Jeffy Imel post here. So, us that are in the top 2 or 3% are included in the 99ers. That is a big relief. For a moment there I was beginning to thunk they were protesting me! Or, the third possibility is that the 99%ers do not include us hard working folk in the top 2-5% of wage earners, just the sign makers are unfortunate products of our education system and can’t do the simplest with a darn. So, they are long term unemployed, Warren Buffet haters, so just downright stupid. Take your pic.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yes, the Republicans have a great record of balancing the budget. Reagan tippled it and Bush doubled it. Way to go Repubs.

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  19. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    You really want to go there Paul? I have no problem feeding you that can of worms.
    But since you just HAD to bring it up,,, Just where the HELL is “O” and Co.’s budget? We haven’t seen one in over two and a half years!!! Deem and pass? OH YA,,, Tell you what. Give ME your check book and credit cards for Just ONE WEEK. And I “promise” (ha) not to go over the limit. I DARE YOU. I will use the same “re- payment plan” as the people you support in Washington. ( and Ca. for that matter)

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  20. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    I’m proud to have never voted for Reagan, but the Democratic Congress he was saddled (Tip O’Neil, Speaker) with pronounced each and every one of his budgets DOA and passed budgets that were higher than Reagan had proposed. What Reagan did do was slow inflation and stop the creep of average salaries into tax brackets meant for the rich.
    Sorry, Paul, better luck next time.

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  21. Mike Thornton Avatar

    Speaking about “Job Creation”, I see the County has named a new County Counsel.
    Man, that’s another government job that Barry didn’t get!

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Barry who?

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  23. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Thornton, did that cheap shot make you feel good?

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  24. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Ready for that exam Mike?

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  25. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Darn drive-by posters,,,….. One scatterbrained quip, and GONE.

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    They have no guts.

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  27. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Greg, here is the exchange, I have nothing to apologize for….I am right.
    Steve: Being a communist is 100% legal in the United States of America. It is a protected status under our Conntitution. Being a proponent of the violent overthrough of the United States government is not. Do you have a problem with that?”
    Walt: “Yes I DO!!”
    For a group of people who say they want to uphold constitutional principles, you all sure don’t seem to know what the hell they are.
    And do you seriously think you all chased anyone away, or defeated them, or those who think you are throwbacks to the 19th century? Perhaps people are just recognizing all the normal posters here as the irrelevant, do-nothing, couch potatoes they are. The simple truth is, I am really busy with work, and preparing to leave the country for a few weeks, and don’t have time to spend with the pitchfork crowd.
    C-ya.

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  28. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Frisch, had you actually produced that quote when asked, you’d have little to apologize for, and the simple truth is that you remain a complete ass.
    Speaking of couch potatoes, I saw Pelline trying to walk in downtown Nevada City not long ago, and I was shocked. I doubt he could waddle a half-mile without a rest.
    Walt, you were off base. Being a communist has always been legal and will always be legal under the current Constitution, . What wouldn’t be legal under the Constitution is an actual communist system, which is where your rhetoric may have been confused.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Funny how Frisch zips in to name call then takes off to another country on our dime. He calls what h does “work”. Now that is truly funny.
    Sure, every form of speech or association should be protected in our country except the speech the left doesn’t like. They call it hate speech, racist or illegal if someone says a word or commits an act not on their roster of hings OK. The fact a communist can declare they are allowed to speak here is why America became so great. Then we started getting the PC crowd peopled by charlatans like Frisch and Pelline. They only complain when someone from the right speaks but pay no attention to their lefty friends trashing mom and apple pie. Walt may not have understood the nuance or, well, maybe he did.

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  30. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Gregs totally off topic post above that has a nasty, personal attack on Jeff Pelline’s “size” is sick.
    So George do you apply any standards here? Is this what your blog has been allowed to sink to?

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George allows most people to post and hey, even you! I would suggest you tart your own blog and stop coming here to whine.

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  32. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    So, Enos, where were you when Mike Thornton took a detour into noting there was a new county counsel and making a snide comment about Barry?
    I’m roughly Frisch sized and able to weather “fat” comments with some degree of grace; the comment wasn’t off base nor was it meant to be just about size. Frisch name-called everyone here disagreeing with him “couch potatoes” and when I saw Pelline, a friend and ally of Frisch, he seemed to move only with great difficulty.
    Pelline needs help.

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  33. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Ya, Steve E no way for you to help censor comments you don’t like. Tough Titty. That’s the commie style,,.
    And Steve F. Is a real peace of work. “OH! give me money,, so I can “teach and inform” people” Funny how I can’t find your expenditure reports, of who got what, and for.( or am I just looking in the wrong place? so direct me to where I can find that) Something tells me your not flying ECONOMY class. That money would be better used to “teach” a person how to keep a business up and running when it got dropped in their lap with no warning. But NOOOooo.You sure dodged that question about one of your own “programs”. So in MY OPINION ( is that still allowed in the U.S ?) SBC is a fraud and a scam. A TRUE non profit would be more than happy to keep their books open to the public. Our Church tells us how much came in,what went out, and what is left. And we ( the wife and I) don’t get paid a dime when we put in time for the community.
    I did find a page that says how much SBC claims to have in “assets”. A nice tidy sum.
    http://non-profit-organizations.findthebest.com/detail/911070/Sierra-Business-Council
    So have fun at someones Else’s expense.
    So how many stars is the Hotel your staying at? I think we can safely assume that it won’t be Super 8.

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  34. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Greg’s post about Pelline and the following personal attack posts that followed about me raising the issue off topic personal attacks is a sad use of this blog.
    Got some real fine posters here George.

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  35. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    BTW,, If any of our ” Commie” people get “the finger”, and then want to lash out at that person,, Your better off just smiling and take it. ( Oh,, but please do) It’s protected under the First Amendment. ( or at least it was the last time I heard. You never know with these Progressive judges these days.)

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  36. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    George, wasn’t it just a few short weeks ago that you and Paul Emery got together to have a public discussion about having civil dialog? Who sponsered that event?
    George, you know this personal attack, off topic BS is wrong… so will you do the right thing and get this blog back on track about issues vs. off topic personal attack after personal attack?
    You and Paul discussed this type of thing. How about standing up for what is right here?

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The only loony tunes posting here are the Steve’s. What a hoot!

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  38. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Enos, I was commenting on a public figure, and I can’t help but note you’re not disputing the accuracy of my remarks.
    Your remarkable double standards are showing… Thornton and Frisch go personal on a regular basis; I make an honest report and you all of a sudden are concerned with Rebane’s standards, as you have done again and again. You seem mostly concerned with Rebane’s success.

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  39. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Try this link to George’s own story titled “Civil Discussion”. Check out Bob Crabb’s cartoon.
    http://www.theunion.com/article/20110913/NEWS/110919956&parentprofile=search
    Why all the nasty, name calling, personal insults? Does it make you feel powerful? Do you guys every go to church?

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  40. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Enos, why the double standards?

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  41. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Enos, why the double standards?
    Thanks again for not disputing my observations.

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  42. D. King Avatar
    D. King

    Steve Enos-
    How do you feel about mining for rare earth elements in California so we can break the Chinese communists strangle hold on the market and create green jobs here? Oh, and what are you doing about it, being someone who is such a strong advocate and blog etiquette soldier.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2010/1020/China-s-lock-on-market-for-rare-earth-elements-Why-it-matters

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Greg, he is a whiner and never answers any questions. Good luck.

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  44. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Greg, being the thorough, well researched and detail oriented guy you claim to be I figured you could read the thread for yourself.

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  45. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Greg, being the thorough, well researched and detail oriented guy you claim to be I figured you could read the thread for yourself.
    Frankly Greg, I have been pretty busy, and getting back to Walt, who can’t read the constitution, Todd, who can’t read a sign, and you, who can’t read the thread is not a top priority. I think this is getting pretty boring. It seems this crew always manages to comment on the boring stuff embedded in the threads and let the really interesting stuff pass.
    I have yet to hear a single really good idea about how we can create jobs. All I hear is “de-regulate the economy and step back”.
    I hate to break it to you guys but the American people are not with you on this one.

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  46. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Hey, give George a break. Russ posted that he is having connectivity problems and is not moderating.
    I suspect that if he could be he would have weighed in here and told people like me to STFU. Of course he would also have allowed Todd and Walt to make wild allegations and would have inferred that we are all communists as well, but thats the breaks.
    As long as these guys are focused on the 1950’s we are in good shape!

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  47. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    I hate to break it to you, Steve, but in a thread with this many submissions, it’s easy to miss something, especially considering Walt isn’t the most concise writer and I don’t pay all that much attention to him. Before I asked for the quote I skimmed the threads and, given his was an answer to you without restating the question, I didn’t catch it.
    All you needed to do was cite the date and the time and it would have been easy. Instead, it festered, and I began to assume you were summarizing and not being fair about it. This would not be a first for you, either.
    Now Walt, you could have fessed up when I challenged Frisch, and you didn’t. Shame on you. Contrary to TJ’s remark, I don’t have any idea who you are, and if this is your standard for communication, you are probably wise to not fully identify yourself.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Walt is a hard working middle class fellow who many people hire to do hard work. Snooty is not acceptable here.
    Frisch, you are truly the boring one here. You are a self proclaimed know-it-all but you really don’t know anything. Your knowledge of the Constitution, capitalism and government are rudimentary at best. That is the problem with you silver spooners, no practical experience but lots of book knowledge. That is what is running our government and we can all see why the country is in the crapper. Too many Frisch-like know nothings.
    So, enjoy your taxpayer trip out of the country, we fly economy but we know you will be up there in the front, munching on a steak and drinking the Jim Beam shooter.

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