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The ongoing situation in Ukraine is totally asymmetrical – Russia intensifies its bombing and battlefield assaults while the West jawbones and regurgitates threats that don’t materialize.  Meanwhile Trump is basking in the revised and reconstructed interpretation of the disastrous Anchorage outcome – talk about lipstick on a pig.  He now believes his own press clippings and claims that he always wanted to skip a cease fire and go immediately into negotiating a peace treaty to end the war.

This is an obvious page out of Putin’s much publicized playbook.  There is ample evidence of Trump’s pre-Anchorage demands for an immediate ceasefire, which if not agreed to by Putin would result in immediate implementation of secondary economy crippling sanctions on Russia and the upgrading of Ukraine’s military with EU purchased US weapons.

In the meantime Putin repeats his prerequisites for peace, demanding he keeps conquered lands, get additional relinquished strategic territory, prevents Ukraine from maintaining an effective military, and prohibits Ukraine from ever joining NATO.  His intentions during such a hiatus is to rebuild/refurbish the Russian army, and then complete the conquest of Ukraine either physically or politically as a satrap a la Belorussia.

To put a bow on Putin’s contempt for western leaders and the West’s initiatives was unmistakably shown last night when he bombed an American built and operated factory in Ukraine.

Trump allowing this asymmetry to continue indicates that he is again (still?) unclear on Putin’s goals and MO for achieving them.  All he can tell his devoted audiences is that he is “very unhappy” with Putin’s response and the lack of progress toward a trilateral meeting with Zelinsky in attendance, followed by a bilateral meeting during which Zelinsky has only a knife to bring to a gunfight.

To their credit, there are a few reputable commentators on FN and FB who are echoing the above sentiments.  But it all seems to be water off the Donald’s back.

[Later]  Just out is WSJ’s 22aug25 editorial on the matter (here).  It agrees with my harangue above and points out, “The question now is how quickly Mr. Trump concludes he’s being played again, and the evidence is mixed.”  (emphasis mine re Anchorage)

In criticizing the former president, “Mr. Biden, or whoever was running his Ukraine policy, had no strategy for victory. But Mr. Trump has also been reluctant to open up U.S. weapons stores and give Ukraine a real long-range missile arsenal and the freedom to use it.”

WSJ concludes that “All the happy smiles of diplomacy won’t make a difference unless Mr. Putin thinks that the cost to him of continuing the war is higher than the risk of ending it. … It’s past time for Mr. Trump to apply secondary sanctions on countries that buy Russian oil and gas. That might get China’s attention. Here’s another idea: Confiscate each week a portion of the $300 billion in Russian reserves frozen in the West as long as the bombing continues. The hard truth is that a durable peace in Ukraine isn’t likely without a much harder policy from Mr. Trump.”

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86 responses to “Trump’s Putin Relapse – 21aug25”

  1. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Confiscation of Russian frozen assets comes with the risk that other countries including but not limited to Saudi Arabia and China could get out of the European market finding that having assets in Europe is too risky and comes with too many strings attached. Such a move risks the euro status as a global reserve currency potentially strengthening Russia’s position internationally. Not to mention that it is likely a violation of international law. The world is watching, and the world knows that they could be next in the West’s crosshairs. We no longer live in a unipolar world, and the West needs a reality check.
    Also, once Trump if greenlights additional weapons to Ukraine, it becomes his war, and his base is vehemently opposed to escalation and international entanglements. While support in the USA for continuation wanes, support in Europe is waning. The farther from the Atlantic one moves east, support decreases precipitously (with the exception of the Baltics). Such a conundrum leaves Ukraine between a rock and a hard place. Escalation is a political non-starter in the West. Ukraine is going to have to make a deal that includes losing territory. If Ukraine had stayed in the Istanbul Agreement in 2022, they would not be in this position, but they are and now are going to have to deal with the consequences of trusting the West.
    Interesting times, George. Very interesting time to be alive.

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  2. Resurrected Hillbilly Avatar
    Resurrected Hillbilly

    It has always been “The Putin Invasion of Ukraine”.
    Trump and Vance complain about Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s clothing choices and berate him for not kissing Trump’s ass enough.
    Chicken Hawk Trump threatens Vlad with “very serious tariffs” if he does not play nice.
    Vlad continues bombing Ukraine.

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  3. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Chicken Hawk Trump threatens Vlad with “very serious tariffs” if he does not play nice.”
    So what would you suggest?
    I guess the only answer here is for a limited nuclear exchange between Russia and the US at the same time as an invasion of Kaliningrad.
    You guys could simultaneously save Ukraine’s bacon and return their Crimean port while world peace breaks out.
    Give me a heads up so I can stock up on food and ammo.

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BarryP “Interesting times, George. Very interesting time to be alive.”
    At least there’s a logic to all of it. I suspect I could be persuaded either way on this conflict if a persuasive (and partisan) person with a lot of domain knowledge spent an hour or so explaining it.
    There’s certainly more sense here than blowing up Iraq for no good reason whatsoever.

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  5. Resurrected Hillbilly Avatar
    Resurrected Hillbilly

    Posted by: scenes | 22 August 2025 at 09:47 AM
    Dude, just impose the tariffs already.
    Has he stopped violating ceasefires and bombing civilians yet?
    Is Vlad privately threatening Trump about things we are unaware of as of yet?

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  6. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: RH@9:58AM
    What? You don’t want to bomb Moscow to save Ukraine and Peace in the World? Maybe we could put a bunch more US-designed gear with US-trained crews in Ukraine with US soldiers on the ground there to actually shoot the stuff.
    I’d suggest that all the chickenhawks get off their duffs and get ready to invade Russia. There’s 100 years of plans sitting around somewhere so it’s just a matter of moving people and stuff to Europe.
    I’ll buy you a personal rifle and a nice MOLLE pack for your energy bars.
    Every time someone talks about tariffs, I’d love to sit them down and have them write down (no internet allowed)
    . Every new tariff
    . The likely knock-on effects
    . A complete list of existing tariffs
    “Is Vlad privately threatening Trump about things we are unaware of as of yet?”
    Well, naturally. Don’t you know that Volodya has 4k video of Trump being peed on by Russian prostitutes? It’s in the same file as all that enormous election interference that they did and every other imaginary thing.

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  7. gjrebane Avatar

    When is it time for the public/media/DoJ to demand that Schiff present the evidence he claimed to have for the years that he attacked Trump on the air? If he had none, then as a public official he was perpetrating election fraud on America’s citizenry.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Should Trump be subject to the same standards that you propose to be inflicted upon Schiff? I can give you dozens of examples of Trump lying without any evidence.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump lies:
    Here’s just a start
    18. Falsely claimed he was clearly speaking “in jest” when he said during his 2024 campaign that he would end the war in Ukraine by “day one” of this presidency. Trump made the pledge at least 53 times in 2023 and 2024 in an entirely serious context and tone, often declaring he would end the war even before his inauguration.
    19. Falsely claimed in February that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was “down at 4% approval rating.” An approval survey conducted from late November to early January found 63% of Ukrainians either approved fully or tended to approve of Zelensky’s actions as president; another survey, conducted in February, found that 57% of Ukrainians said they trusted Zelensky.
    Hundreds more here: https://www.cnn.com/politics/fact-check-trump-false-claims-debunked

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Raymond Emery | 22 August 2025 at 03:57 PM
    More delightful whining by the worlds wrinkliest teenaged girl.

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  11. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE 341pm – As usual Paul, your TDS doesn’t even allow you to understand that you are trying to compare apples and oranges.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George do you believe Trumps lies should be ignored but Schiff should be held responsible for his alleged lies about Trump

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  13. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Scenes @ 949a. I am going to try to do a video today from Gorky Park. It is autumn here already and in the mid 6os and cloudy. My favorite.

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 August 2025 at 09:29 PM
    So George do you believe Trumps lies should be ignored but Schiff should be held responsible for his alleged lies about Trump

    So Paul Raymond do you believe Biden’s lies should be ignored but Trump should be held responsible for his alleged lies about….INSERT SENILE PROGRESSIVE DIMWITS LATEST GRIPE HERE?

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    fishhole
    Give me a couple of examples about what you consider to be Bidens lies.
    So George do you believe Trumps lies should be ignored but Schiff should be held responsible for his alleged lies about Trump

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 August 2025 at 07:14 AM
    We’ve been over this Paul Raymond. I don’t do your homework for you! Biden was the the most notorious liar in the Senate for 35 years and then got to lie as Vice President for another eight.
    Seek and ye shall find.

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Talk is cheap fishole Show me some examples or keep your mouth shut

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul “Confused About The Matter” Emery | 23 August 2025 at 08:06 AM
    Talk is cheap fishole Show me some examples or keep your mouth shut

    Talk is cheap Paul Raymond….much like an “Afternoon in the Park with Leonard Cohen”.
    And while your internet “Tuff Gai” routine is charming, you’re (see…the contraction of “You are…”) too old and scrawny to pull that off any longer. Your strongest play is to keep doing what you’re doing….”the annoying neighborhood crank with more opinions than IQ points” shtick. Just for reference, your local newspaper refers to this as being a “Stalwart Man About Town”.
    So why they reluctance to do your own research? Internet links still befuddling you?

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    TO THE COMMENT THREADS – Stay tuned while Paul Raymond spins in circles a bit and then says something to the effect:

    “Uhhh you don’t use your real name because you don’t want your family to be ashamed of you!

    Maybe. I told them I owned a string of whorehouses. They said, “As long as you’re not a street busker we’re cool with it”!

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  20. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE 714am – Please see my 908pm; we’re talking past each other again.

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  21. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: Biden’s lies.
    I admit that that’s about the easiest homework assignment ever given. Scads.
    Where it gets funny is when you do a googlesearch ending with a date before the whole anti-Trump hard-ons fired up. The natural tendency is to protect ol’ Joe now since he’s about all they’ve got left.
    A single link of hundreds.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/08/the-wacky-plagiarisms-of-joe-biden.html
    In any case, the real crime surrounding Biden that really matters is that his health/mental problems were hidden and the White House was probably run by God-knows-who for a few years. Those people are still around and need a knock from the DOJ. That was a genuinely dangerous situation. Other than that I don’t much care that he morphed from a half-bright exaggerator and plagiarist to some poor dude with dementia.

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  22. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    GR: “Please see my 908pm; we’re talking past each other again.”
    I’m afraid that it’s impossible to talk to a heckler.
    What Paul really needs is someone to stop by his next musical styling thing and yell ‘Free Bird’ between tunes to see what it’s like.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 23 August 2025 at 09:37 AM
    In any case, the real crime surrounding Biden that really matters is that his health/mental problems were hidden and the White House was probably run by God-knows-who for a few years.

    Please note that I omitted the “President Autopen Years” from my Joseph Robinette Biden CV of Fibbing! A skull full of Tapioca pudding is summarily disqualifying from the Presidency. Joe Scarboroughs’ for public consumption only opinion notwithstanding!

    “Start your tape right now because I’m about to tell you the truth. And fuck you if you can’t handle the truth. This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.”

    Ol “Eraserhead” Joe the biggest whore on MSNBC (It was fun while it lasted!)
    https://nypost.com/2025/05/20/media/msnbcs-joe-scarborough-forced-to-explain-his-viral-best-biden-ever-assessment-made-in-march-2024/

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy is punching.

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    All I’m asking for is a few examples of Bidens lying. It’s not very complicated.

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  26. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE 310pm – you could have done this yourself – well, maybe not.
    Summary of Biden’s Lies or Misleading Claims (just during his presidency)
    1. Economic Claims:
    • Inflation and Wages: Biden claimed that “take-home pay has gone up” during his presidency, but critics argue real wages have fallen due to inflation outpacing wage growth. Inflation rose nearly 20% since January 2021, costing families an estimated $17,000 per year, while average weekly earnings increased by only 14.6%.
    • Job Creation: Biden stated he created 15 million new jobs, but critics note that many of these were jobs recovered post-COVID, not newly created. Net new jobs under Biden are estimated at 2.7 million, compared to 4.5 million under Trump’s first two years.
    • Deficit Reduction: Biden claimed the largest deficit reduction in history, but reports highlight that his administration oversaw a $4.2 trillion two-year deficit, the largest ever, with the reduction attributed to the expiration of pandemic-era spending rather than policy achievements.
    2. Health Policy and Insulin Costs:
    • Biden overstated the impact of insulin price reductions, claiming costs dropped from $400 to $15 per shot. In reality, the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act capped insulin at $35 for Medicare patients, and pre-law costs for most insured patients were around $450 annually, not per shot.
    • He also claimed to have “beat Medicare,” a confusing statement critics say misrepresented his administration’s use of Medicare funds to support other spending priorities, potentially straining the program’s trust fund.
    3. Border and Immigration:
    • Biden’s administration faced criticism for claiming control over border security while illegal crossings surged, peaking at 249,741 encounters in December 2023. Critics argue his rollback of Trump-era policies exacerbated the issue, though crossings later declined to 47,300 by December 2024.
    • He made misleading claims about immigration patterns, such as children “starving to death” under Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy, which lacked evidence.
    4. Foreign Policy and Afghanistan:
    • The chaotic 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal was a focal point of criticism, with Biden’s approval ratings dropping below 50% after a suicide bombing killed 13 U.S. service members. Critics argue he misrepresented the situation’s stability.
    • Biden claimed he traveled 17,000 miles with Chinese President Xi Jinping, a statement the White House later conceded was inaccurate, with no clear explanation for the figure.
    5. Other Notable Claims:
    • Georgia Election Law: Biden repeatedly claimed Georgia’s 2021 election law shortened voting hours, earning a “Four Pinocchio” rating from the Washington Post for being demonstrably false.
    • Gun Control: Biden linked the expiration of the assault-weapons ban in 2004 to increased gun violence, but data shows violence continued to decline post-expiration.
    • Tax Policy: He claimed no tax increases for those earning under $400,000, but critics note this threshold applies to households, not individuals, potentially misleading some taxpayers.
    • COVID-19 Response: Biden overstated Trump’s comments about injecting disinfectant, claiming Trump told Americans to “inject bleach,” when Trump’s actual remarks were about exploring disinfectant use hypothetically.
    • Family Business Dealings: Critics, including Rep. James Comer, allege Biden lied about not discussing business with his son Hunter, claiming evidence shows involvement in family business dealings, though Biden’s team adjusted their narrative to say he was “never in business” with his son.
    Context and Scale
    • Volume of Falsehoods: The Washington Post’s Fact Checker reported Biden made 67 false or misleading claims in his first 100 days, significantly fewer than Trump’s 511 in the same period. Biden’s falsehoods were often characterized as exaggerations or “subtle truth stretching” rather than outright fabrications, attributed to his reliance on vetted prepared statements and limited off-the-cuff remarks.
    • The Federalist’s Claim: A report from The Federalist (updated September 2023) alleged 249 lies over Biden’s presidency, though this source is noted for its conservative bias and lacks the detailed breakdown of more neutral fact-checkers like PolitiFact or the Washington Post.
    • PolitiFact Data: In his first 100 days, Biden had 4 statements fact-checked by PolitiFact, with 2 deemed false (on minimum wage and immigration), compared to Trump’s 29 statements (17 false) and Obama’s 12 (1 false).

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    IN the meantime George Ms Maxwell is claiming innocence in her convictions that put her in prison despite direct testimony from the victims.
    Here’s some examples:
    “But for these women this was no fairytale. It was a nightmare and it was very real. How real became apparent the following day when Jane took the stand.
    She testified that Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein approached her when she was 14 years old at a summer arts camp in 1994.
    Over the next two years, she said she was abused about every other week with Maxwell sometimes taking part. This was one of her key exchanges with prosecutors:
    Q. What was Maxwell’s demeanour like during these incidents?
    A. I would say that it seemed very casual, like it was – like it was very normal, like it was not a big deal.
    Q. And when she behaved like that, how did that make you feel?
    A. Well, it made me feel confused because that did not feel normal to me; I’d never seen anything like this or felt any of this, and it was very embarrassing. You know, it’s all these mixed emotions. When you’re 14, you have no idea what’s going on.
    The other accusers would later recount similar experiences.
    Maxwell argued she was unaware of Epstein’s abuse
    One of the most heart wrenching testimonies came from Carolyn, who testified under her first name.
    The woman was visibly broken down by years of trauma and addiction to pain killers and cocaine. She had been raped by her grandfather at four years old, dropped out of school in the 7th grade, and was neglected by a mother who abused substances.
    Carolyn told the court it was one of Epstein’s most outspoken accusers Virginia Roberts, now Virginia Giuffre, that first told her at 14 years old that she could make money by massaging a wealthy friend of hers.
    Carolyn met Ghislaine Maxwell when she showed up at Epstein’s mansion in 2001. Maxwell, she said, told Virginia to take her upstairs to the massage room and “show her what to do.” Prosecutors told jurors that by this time period, Maxwell had devised a pyramid scheme of abuse that no longer required her to personally find young girls for Epstein.
    Instead, they would reward vulnerable girls who brought someone new with extra cash.
    Carolyn was paid hundreds of dollars to “massage” Epstein on each of the over 100 encounters until she “became too old.” She brought three other friends to Epstein. Carolyn said Maxwell once told her “she had a great body for Epstein and his friends” before touching her breasts.”
    Thats direct testimony from her trial
    George, wy do you think she got sent to a country club prison and do you believe Trump knew nothing about this as he claims?
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59736227

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul “The Champion of Misplaced Effort” Emery | 23 August 2025 at 03:10 PM
    All I’m asking for is a few examples of Bidens lying. It’s not very complicated.

    If you account for all the keystrokes that you made whining (in text) for someone else to provide this information to you, you could have easily acquired it for yourself!
    George is a gentleman and accommodates your requests like one would for a four your old child!

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  29. Resurrected Hillbilly Avatar
    Resurrected Hillbilly

    Posted by: scenes | 22 August 2025 at 11:46 AM
    Nice screed…but it doesn’t explain why Trump keeps saying if Putin doesn’t behave Trump is going be tough…someday.

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  30. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE 346pm – As usual when you are shown up, you just change the subject as if nothing happened and you don’t care to engage further in the thread that you started. Instead you just ask another inane question. I don’t wanna play.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    It’s good. form to provide sources for allegations fish.
    Did you read the testimony I provided from the Maxwell trial?

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George I accepted your source. What more do you expect. My question is very relevant to whats happening toda so I’ll ask you again. wy do you think Maxwell got sent to a country club prison and do you believe Trump knew nothing about and had nothing to do with this transfer as he claims?

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    With typo corrections
    George I accepted your source. What more do you expect? My question is very relevant to whats happening today so I’ll ask you again. why do you think Maxwell got sent to a country club prison and do you believe Trump knew nothing about and had nothing to do with this transfer as he claims?

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch 456p
    So, all the prior bs you’ve abandoned and are now doubling down on Ghislaine.
    Wow.
    There’s no there there.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 August 2025 at 04:40 PM
    It’s good. form to provide sources for allegations fish.

    Another example of that Emery command of the language (Punctuation Division).
    There are people from whom I would have to consider this proposition….that proper form is obeyed by providing supporting evidence after making the accusation.
    You are not one of those people.
    Rumor has it you were some sort of “newsman”….read the news for a while on the radio?! You had to have heard about Joe Biden’s lifelong mendacity …at least in passing! Joeseph Biden had an overwhelming difficulty with the truth. Joe Biden lied when telling the truth would have served him better!
    Now if you were really, really bad at your job or just clueless in general, missed 50 years of Bidens’ shenanigans in the senate and you’ve decided now to admit that publicly here then I suppose that some assistance might be warranted.
    Is that what you’re admitting now Paul Raymond?

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  36. Resurrected Hillbilly Avatar
    Resurrected Hillbilly

    JD Vance says on Meet the Press this morning, with regard to what sanctions Trump is putting on Putin…
    Trump put a 50% tariff on India
    That will show him, take that Putin.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Don’t worry Gregory I’ll get back to those but this has risen to the peak of my interest. The question is who enabled Maxwell to be moved to a country club prison at the same time her testimony on Epstein and Trumps connection to his crimes is being looked at. She is claiming innocence in the whole matter despite the testimony of many of the victims of Epstein of which she was found guilty of enabling Epstein and sent to a 20 year sentence which she is now serving.
    Who allowed that to happen? Do you have any ideas Gregory? Do you think Trump will ultimately pardon her in exchange for her testimony?

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  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    India has been reselling Russian oil products… big time, big money.
    Hillbully doesn’t know this?

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  39. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy’s speculative fiction is a rabbit hole of infinite depth.

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul “this has risen to the peak of my interest but I still rely on others to do my research for me” Emery | 24 August 2025 at 10:16 AM
    Who allowed that to happen? Do you have any ideas Gregory? Do you think Trump will ultimately pardon her in exchange for her testimony?

    Oooh….you were so close to being able to use the internet (such as it is these days) as an investigatory tool as opposed to using it as a vehicle to nag people to do things for you!
    Sad….!

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  41. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    psul: “Don’t worry Gregory I’ll get back to those but this has risen to the peak of my interest. ”
    roflmao.
    I’ll bet he thinks that ‘pique my interest’ is really ‘peak of my interest’.
    Honestly there’s no shame in being fairly illiterate as it’s hard work to read any sort of literary canon, but the humorless know-nothing angle here gets boring after a while.
    Thankfully, as you become an old incontinent man, and as John Fogerty sez: ‘There’s a bathroom on the right’.

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    ßcenes
    Where did you get this? did you make it up?
    “‘pique my interest”

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  43. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    psul: “Where did you get this? did you make it up?”
    double roflmao.
    Deeper and deeper.
    I’ll bet you don’t have the slightest idea that when my hummingbirds duke it out, I think of it as ‘wings on the green’, and why that is funny.

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    Resurrected Hillbilly

    Posted by: Gregory | 24 August 2025 at 10:21 AM
    We know that Trump is playing three, 4 or 5th dimensional chess on the world stage…
    What AI says:
    “Positive effects on Russia
    A new market for Indian goods: Russia has explicitly stated that it welcomes Indian exports if they face barriers in the U.S. market. If Indian textiles, garments, and other goods affected by the tariffs shift to the Russian market, it could provide a boost to bilateral trade in non-energy sectors.
    Deeper bilateral ties: In response to U.S. pressure, India and Russia are working to deepen their economic relationship. Both countries have vowed to increase trade in non-oil sectors, and Russia is seeking Indian investment in its infrastructure and energy projects. This would make the relationship more resilient to Western pressure.
    Diversification of trade away from the dollar: Moscow and New Delhi are exploring alternatives to the U.S. dollar for bilateral trade. Any efforts to strengthen rupee-ruble trade would weaken Western sanctions and further de-dollarize global commerce.
    Impact on the oil trade
    The effect on Russia’s oil exports is the most critical factor, but the outcome is not guaranteed.
    Dependence on discounts: Indian officials state that their oil purchases are based on national energy security and market pricing. The decision will hinge on whether Russian oil discounts remain compelling enough to offset the economic pain of the U.S. tariffs.
    Russia’s ongoing supply: Indian state-run refiners were still buying Russian oil for September and October delivery as of late August 2025, suggesting continued demand despite the tariffs.
    The “Laundromat” effect: While the tariffs are meant to target Russian oil, a significant portion of Indian imports are refined and re-exported. It is difficult for the U.S. to fully cut off this trade, especially when India has pledged to protect its national interests.”

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  45. Resurrected Hillbilly Avatar
    Resurrected Hillbilly

    Trump may have just created a new Axis of economic evil binding China, Russia and India together.
    Way to go Chessmaster Trump!

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    ßcenes
    Where did you get this? did you make it up?
    “‘pique my interest”

    …. the context in which you employed the term.

    pique


    /pēk/
    stimulate (interest or curiosity).
    “you have piqued my curiosity about the man”


    …..sigh.

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  47. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Resurrected Hillbilly | 24 August 2025 at 01:23 PM
    Trump may have just created a new Axis of economic evil binding China, Russia and India together.
    Way to go Chessmaster Trump!

    Gee…..maybe more sanctions will undo that!
    Rube!

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  48. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Trumps game has been 4d TicTacToe for years.

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  49. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Mr. Fish: “Gee…..maybe more sanctions will undo that!”
    Oh well, it’s the nature of internet prognostication. Trump’s limo could turn right…WHY DIDN’T THEY TURN LEFT?!! IT MUST BE SOME SORT OF WHITE SUPREMACY THING!!.
    It’s hard to avoid the fact that a)Russia has a lot of raw material. b)China needs a lot of raw material. c)They are neighbors. A lot might just fall out of that. I should write a grandiose geopolitical The Union Ideas&Opinions blurb.
    Luckily, the US is busy producing hedge funds, Taylor Swift, Truckee-based non-profits, surveillance advertising tech giants. Without an aglet factory shoe production will never occur, but by God Leonard Cohen will be remembered.

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