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George Rebane

Democrat lies abound in all sizes and shapes; they wash over us daily during our consumption of the news, be it from conservative or progressive outlets.  The lies about the deported gang member and wife beater Abrego Garcia have gotten a lot of mileage, and proivdes a lot of holier-than-thou comments on blogs from leftwing readers.

Unfortunately, the rightwing outlets fall down on explaining to viewers the crux of the Garcia deportation argument – maintained by the Left that he was denied due process.  In reality Garcia was provided all that he had coming under our deportation laws.  The Heritage Foundation makes this clear in ‘Abrego Garcia: The Poster Child for the Left’s Demands of Endless “Due Process”’

When an alien becomes deportable—either because they entered the U.S. illegally, overstayed their temporary visa, committed a crime, committed fraud, participated in terrorist activity, or other reasons—ICE charges the alien with ground(s) of deportability, which initiates removal proceedings with the Justice Department’s administrative immigration court system.

These are civil proceedings, not criminal. The administrative immigration judges are Justice Department employees in the executive branch; they are not federal judges under the Article III Judiciary of the U.S. Constitution.

That means deportable aliens in deportation proceedings do not have the same rights as a person in a criminal trial, such as being innocent until proven guilty, the right to a taxpayer funded public defendant, etc. Removing a deportable alien is not a criminal sentence

The unsuspecting news consumer is told that Garcia was wrongfully treated like a criminal and denied the ‘due process’ that US criminals receive after being arrested.  The Left emphasizes this point while the Right remains silent, thereby letting the Left’s lie remain unchallenged.  Hopefully, this little bagatelle will explain the matter to open-minded readers, while true believers of the Left remain unreachable.

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30 responses to “The Matter of Abrego Garcia”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    While we are aware of the facts of the matter how much time would you spend convincing the ponytail of ignorance whos memory ends on Jan 6th. They are still on the wrong side of an 80 20 public favored common sense issue. But but but the CBO said –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/12/nonpartisan-in-name-only-congressional-budget-office-revealed-as-hotbed-of-unreliable-left-wing-activists/
    😉

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  2. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    That was the plan all along no wonder they are losing their minds about murderers and rapists –
    Illegal immigrants are creating a ‘swelling’ of Dems in the electoral college, says former US attorney
    https://www.foxnews.com/video/6372679668112?dicbo=v2-z9bjBRR
    😉

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  3. gjrebane Avatar

    DonB 520pm – “… while true believers of the Left remain unreachable.”

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Illegal immigrants are creating a ‘swelling’ of Dems in the electoral college, says former US attorney”
    That is pretty crazy I admit. It’s a bug in the system that the Founding Fathers didn’t foresee, that the difference between citizens and residents would allow a loophole for a party to gain power. It’s probably worth a clarifying change in the Constitution, but that’s essentially impossible.
    You do have to admire the Episcopal Church’s role in all this:
    “the reason given by Episcopal Migration Ministries for refusing resettlement of white South African refugees appears to be a serious civil rights crime in and of itself, and a confession that their entire program has been in violation of civil rights laws all along” (check out their response in the link)
    https://x.com/ProjectVirginia/status/1922045506512937224
    But, like this guy says, “If only there had been signs”
    https://x.com/GPrime85/status/1922122785922388413

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  5. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: Afrikaner refugees.
    lol. This post probably hits purty darned close to home.
    https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1922180875237691772

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Exactly what did Garcia do to make him “deportable” ?

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Was Garcia ever sued, arrested or convicted of “wife beating”? Remember, Trump WAS successfully sued by in a civil case by E. Jean Carroll for 5 million dollars for sexually abusing her.
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-battery-defamation-verdict/index.html

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Just wallowing in that warm embrace of ignorance or is it mental diarrhea again @722 tying to have an intelligent conversation with the ponytail of ignorance is having a battle of wits with an unarmed party parrot. ROFLOL
    😉

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Raymond Emery of Nevada City, California| 13 May 2025 at 07:22 PM
    Exactly what did Garcia do to make him “deportable” ?

    You didn’t read the article did you?
    Of course not….you don’t read links! If you had you’d know why he was eligible for deportation.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Of course I read it fish even though it was written by the Heritage Foundation, not exactly a credible source.
    What “crime” was Garcia convicted of fish?

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Raymond Emery | 13 May 2025 at 08:41 PM
    No you didn’t.

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  12. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Pretty wild video of Episcopal Church Bishop Sean Rowe admitting that resettling White refugees is “not what we’re about.”
    https://x.com/siegfriedmuell/status/1922524683091562882
    You have to admit that the institutional capture has been wildly successful in the last 20 years or so. Whenever I see a Protestant church that doesn’t have a lesbian minister (or a gender indeterminate male like Tim Walz) wearing some kind of rainbow vestments, I’m pretty surprised.
    Hopefully the civil wars continue in the big denominations as it’s the only thing that will save some part of them. The inevitable decline to progressive social club will continue.

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    My question to you fish was “Exactly what did Garcia do to make him “deportable” ?
    The Heritage foundation expresses their opinion on that but it’s up to you to repeat it for our readers.
    Are you a supporter of the Heritage Foundation fish?

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Raymond Emery of Nevada City, California | 14 May 2025 at 08:48 AM
    My question to you fish was “Exactly what did Garcia do to make him “deportable” ?

    My statement to you Paul Raymond Emery of Nevada City, California was that you didn’t bother to read the article at the link!
    No surprise there…..

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  15. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE – The Heritage Foundation is a conservative policy analysis institute highly respected by at least the Republican half of congress, just as the leftwing Brookings Institute is respected by mostly Democrats. Your calling Heritage “not exactly credible” shows how much of the lamestream koolaid you have consumed. This also makes debates with you pointless because your reality is so different from the realworld as embraced by those not worshipping collectivism. The debates, however, do serve to illustrate to readers the reality of no common ground that defines our country’s political schism.
    Re Garcia – You apparently missed Heritage pointing out that Garcia was liable for deportation under US administrative statutes that require (1) no consideration of criminality, and (2) no granting of due process required under criminal laws.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I read the link fish can you report to readers exactly where the Heritage foundation found that Garcia committed a criminal that deserved a probable life imprisonment in jail.

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Raymond Emery | 14 May 2025 at 10:29 AM
    Good ….25 hours later you finally got around to reading it after pontificating about something you hadn’t bothered to read and had no clue about last night.
    Don’t think he belongs in prison (not my call) certainly doesn’t belong in the United States.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    girbane
    Can you provide a link to facts that support the OPINION Heritage has concerning deportation in your 10:27 post. You present only and opinion not facts.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    sp
    You present only an opinion not facts.

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  20. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy,
    Garcia (Obrero, not Jerry) was here illegally. Period.
    His deportation was a go.

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  21. gjrebane Avatar

    PaulE 1:43pm – Save you provide similar background links to the links that you present, you also present only opinion and not facts. Where does trust start and end?

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    girbane
    Do you consider Heritage to be a reliable source? They were the authors of you infamous Project 25. Here’s an exampe of what they believe in,
    Project 2025 takes direct aim at abortion pills, indicates that fetuses should have legal rights, and seeks to expand “surveillance” of abortion while eliminating government support for the procedure. In its architects’ view, abortion is not healthcare and should never be treated as such.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/05/project-2025-abortion

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch, Heritage is Heritage. They take direct aim against your sacred cows.

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  24. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    psul, here’s what I think is the document. What part of it are you talking about? What page number?
    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042/project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise.pdf

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Do you agree with Heritage that fetuses should have legal rights? That’s the way they think.
    Garcia was a tax paying worker with a green card. He had three children and was without a criminal record and Trump shipped him to a Nazi styled prison without a trial of any kind. That’s the Trump way that y ou support.

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Garcia was here illegally.
    A trial wasn’t indicated. Sorry.

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  27. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    And to use an alternate term for fetus, “bambino”, what rights do “bambinos” have in your perfect world?

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So i wonder if there is a section for ‘green libertarians’ in the super max in El Salvador? Asking for a friend.
    Lying sack of shit @546 committing sins of omission like a sad ol party parrot, even chuckie has stopped with the bullshit maryland man schtick.
    Stick with it, it solidifies our 80 percent in favor of full deportations for illegals, especially scum bags. LOL
    😉

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    “Do you agree with Heritage that fetuses should have legal rights? That’s the way they think.”
    Amazing – they think humans should have human rights.
    Shazam!

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  30. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Sound like bullshit to me or he must have gotten it fixed after he was dipping into the chi com honeypot! ROFLOL
    Swalwell warns Noem he has ‘bulls— detector’ during heated exchange about Abrego Garcia
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/swalwell-warns-noem-he-has-bulls-detector-during-heated-exchange-about-abrego-garcia
    😉

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