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George Rebane

We all know how asymmetrical are the lies from both sides in the media and by politicians.  The Right and Left can’t even agree on the definition of which lies (exaggerations?) are consequential, hence ‘Big’, and which are incidental pabulum and of no moment in the public forum.

While legion in number, certain Democrat lies achieve prominence now and then in the political fray of today’s election season.  Here we focus on abortion as featured in the 8oct24 WSJ lead editorial ‘The Abortion Distortion Campaign’ – “As Republicans move to the middle, Democrats falsely claim their opponents favor a national ban or no exceptions for rape or incest.”

A more detailed look brings the following uncountable daily assertions by progressives – all lies.

  • Republicans support “a registry of pregnancies.” 
  • “[Donald] Trump is trying to create this new government entity that will monitor all pregnancies to enforce their abortion bans.”
  • Republican candidates want to “allow state governments to track pregnant women to prosecute them if they get an abortion.”
  • Source for these is identified as the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 policy paper, which hasn’t been adopted by the GOP as a party and Mr. Trump has disavowed many times. But even Project 2025 doesn’t propose such a registry.
  • Democrat political ad, “Washington Republicans want to criminalize abortion, even when a woman has been raped or is facing a medical emergency,” 
  • Republicans would use their Senate seats to “pass a national abortion ban.”
  • And on and on …

The WSJ editorial board concludes with – “Politics isn’t pickleball, and distortions occur on both sides. But Democrats aren’t even attempting to be honest about abortion this year. Perhaps they’re lying so extravagantly because abortion is a rare issue on which they have a clear political advantage. Republicans are left having to decide whether to spend scarce campaign dollars debunking the distortions or risk letting some voters believe them because they’re unrebutted. … The distortions can also harm more than other politicians. They can frighten some women into thinking they can’t risk getting urgent medical care if they have a pregnancy emergency. This from the party that claims to be the protector of women’s health. The next time you see an abortion ad from a Democrat, assume it’s not telling the truth.”

And there’s the rub of their Big Lies; they can do real harm to the under-educated and less-read, those who comprise the largest cohorts of constituents that vote Democratic.  This perhaps best illustrates the moral asymmetry of the parties.  It is hard for the Left to show how Republicans come anywhere close to equally misrepresenting Democrat goals, means, and messages, and thus harming the public at large.  However, such evidence will always be welcomed and debated here.

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125 responses to “The Dems’ Big Lies Intensify”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Speaking of liars –
    Political pundits mercilessly mocked Vice President Kamala Harris’s performance during a 60 Minutes interview Monday after she delivered false, incoherent, and rambling statements.
    During the 60-minute interview, Harris was asked how she would pay for increased spending. She responded by arguing billionaires will pay for it. Billy Binion, a reporter for Reason, slammed her answer as “economically illiterate” and Tim Young ripped her as the “dumbest candidate ever”
    Kamala is confronted by 60 Minutes on if allowing illegal immigration to quadruple on her watch was a mistake. Gets asked three times, responds with nonsense. This interview is ending her campaign
    Harris often gave rambling answers to questions. When asked about why she changed many policy positions she ran on just four years ago, Harris concluded that her “values” have not changed. The Trump War Room X account mocked Harris for not changing her “Marxist” values, while Libs of Tick Tok X account ripped her as a “total train wreck”
    https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/08/illiterate-harris-mocked-as-dumbest-candidate-after-60-minutes-train-wreck-interview/
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/08/whiplash-kamala-harris-suddenly-positions-herself-joe-biden-second/
    https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/08/unscripted-kamala-harris-gives-rambling-incoherent-answer-how-end-war-ukraine/
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has President Joe Biden’s personal phone number, the president told reporters Tuesday as Hurricane Milton approaches Florida’s west coast.
    Biden’s statement undercut Vice President Kamala Harris’s apparent attempt to appear presidential to voters.
    https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/10/08/joe-biden-says-ron-desantis-has-his-direct-number-undercutting-kamala-harris-again/
    😉

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    DonB 529pm – All that is fine and good news for us chorus members. But do you really think that enough of the untutored and unwashed out there understand even if they are getting the message (which I greatly doubt)?

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  3. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    Donnie gets his messaging from BrightBarf. Guess what Donnie, when you live in an echo chamber you get to hear opinions you want to hear.
    Traitor Drumpf called Putin seven times so far since he was evicted from the White House, all while sitting on a pile of classified documents, and secretly sending Putin Covid testing kits, while encouraging Congress critters to vote against supporting Ukraine.
    You cannot get much more morally depraved than that.

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  4. Scott O Avatar

    “Traitor Drumpf called Putin seven times so far…”
    So – what did they talk about?
    When you find out, you can make an intelligent comment.
    “and secretly sending Putin Covid testing kits, while encouraging Congress critters to vote against supporting Ukraine.
    You cannot get much more morally depraved than that.”
    Yes – Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin pale in comparison!
    I seem to remember that Putin didn’t invade Ukraine when Trump was POTUS but that’s just me.
    I guess our moral compasses swing in a different direction. Say Hillbilly – what’s the body count over at Planned Parenthood?
    Oh, I know – “it’s for the children” and “even if it saves one life, it’s worth it”.

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  5. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Eulogized Hillbilly at 06:15 AM – Tin foil hat.

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  6. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    The right wing lies are coming in fast.
    Last nite Hannatitty was saying not to listen to any lies like ‘FEMA is giving money to illegals while storm victims suffer’
    But Chad Pergram had to fact check the fat-faced liar,
    Fox has obtained a fact sheet assembled by the majority side of House Appropriations Committee about disaster aid.
    It says that FEMA “has enough funding in the short-term to address immediate needs for both Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton.”
    It also declares there is “no funding connection between” the migrant shelter program and the Disaster Relief Fund. It adds there is “no intermingling of funding between these two programs.” It adds that “the only connection is that both programs are administered by FEMA.”

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  7. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    ‘FEMA is NOT giving money to illegals while storm victims suffer’

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    Even monies spent by government are fungible.

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    A more detailed look brings the following uncountable daily assertions by progressives – all lies.
    Gotta keep the democrat cattle spun up and lowing…..

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    As the polls turn on the hyena she just slipped the knife through her own ribs –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/09/report-gop-to-cut-ad-of-harris-saying-not-a-thing-she-would-change-over-past-4-years/
    😉

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  11. Scott O Avatar

    “‘FEMA is NOT giving money to illegals while storm victims suffer’”
    Ah – I get it. Hillbilly admits they are giving money to illegals but he thinks that the storm victims aren’t suffering.
    OK.

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    I’ll just leave this here….

    Mayorkas says FEMA has no more disaster funds, but IG report says agency is sitting on billions

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/mayorkas-says-fema-has-no-more-disaster-funds-ig-report-says-agency-sitting-billions?dicbo=v2-32IVCBh

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  13. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    DHS oversees many departments including FEMA and Border Patrol.
    You deniers might as well say that DHS is welcoming in illegals and letting poor victims in red states die in storms. What a joke.
    Where was the outrage when California was burning?
    Oh wait, it wasn’t a month before an election.
    ROTFLMAO

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  14. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    https://www.alternet.org/msn-uk/trump-fema-appropriations/
    No Funding Connection from the Republican led House Appropriations Committee
    Liars gonna lose

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  15. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Jeffie ain’t no smarter than this clown, Barry.
    “ROTFLMAO”

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  16. Scott O Avatar

    “You deniers might as well say…”
    But we didn’t.
    Hillbilly can’t prove his initial BS so he fabricates something. I have no idea what it is we are supposed to be denying.
    Here’s reality:
    “On Oct 2, Mayorkas said, “We are expecting another hurricane hitting. We do not have the funds. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season and what is imminent.””
    “…the Inspector General for Homeland Security released a report saying FEMA is sitting on at least $8.3 billion in untapped, unspent funds. ”
    And the illegals are still getting thousands of dollars of tax payer cash.

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  17. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    I get it, Drumpf supporters are worried, so blog posts like “Dem’s Big Lies” start showing up.
    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/republican-closing-message-2024-we-lie-to-you

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  18. Scott O Avatar

    from the Bulwark essay:
    “Fear wasn’t enough, so they are campaigning on falsehoods”
    That is exactly what the Dems are doing. They know that Harris and Walz are laughable jokes. So they run with the most ridiculous lies about Trump one could imagine.
    “He’s going to tear up the Constitution”
    “He’s going to have death squads”
    “You’ll never be able to vote again”
    If Harris didn’t have the major media to cover and lie for her she wouldn’t stand a chance. When she actually ran on her own she couldn’t do squat. She was installed – no one voted for her.

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  19. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    The goal of Democrats now is not to defeat MAGA but undermine the populist movement. They know that this race is over and will be over before California polls close. Now it will be Democrat disinformation (also known as lies) non-stop for the next five years…

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    Hillbilly – “I guess you don’t own the moral high ground either”
    I’ll take that as an admission that Harris and Walz lie through their teeth. You may as well – you’ve never denied it when they are pointed out.
    As far as I go – maybe the Hillbilly can document the lies I’ve told or believe?
    Good luck with that.

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  21. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    Lying liars and the liars who lie for them.
    This has been going on since 2021. Way before Kamala was in the news, Trump and his crew have been lying their asses off the last decade.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/04/03/trump-campaign-reportedly-forced-to-refund-more-than-122-million-to-donors/

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    As the trend has become clear in recent polls and they are not good for the hyena the lefty press is realizing the joy and bullshit is failed and this week she could not even take it in all the friendly venues. Each had a Trump ad moment that will be played ad nauseum in swing states –
    Based on Marcus’s conversations with voters, one moment stands out as a momentum-shifter, and it’s one the legacy press largely ignored — the endorsement of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “If RFK Jr. can bring these people over to Trump, that seems like a pretty big deal,” he said.
    It is noteworthy that the RFK endorsement in August — the day after the DNC — was highlighted by theatricality and showmanship as well, with a rock-concert atmosphere. The former Democrat used the occasion to debut his “Make America Healthy Again” alignment with MAGA.
    Another element that Marcus and Zito noted should raise red flags for those who want Vice President Kamala Harris to win in November. Butler, like many of Trump’s rallies, was organic.
    Marcus described how “Harris is always busing people in with matching T-shirts” to her events, There was a conspicuous lack of buses in Butler. Zito said that Harris’s rallies are “invite-only” — meaning there’s no way to gauge spontaneous support, or win over new supporters and convince undecideds.
    Butler was about more than winning votes. It was about celebrating the survival of a literal near-death experience. It was a fist-pumping show of defiance. In that sense, Trump’s Butler revival could serve not only as one of the most iconic moments of 2024, but also as the lasting memory of the MAGA movement as a whole.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-trump-s-revival-in-butler-could-be-what-seals-his-victory/ar-AA1s1Wgp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5395ba998f7f4cbcbf9e389b6fd516ba&ei=132
    😉

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    TRU DAT –
    Media
    Actor-comedian Eddie Griffin says he may be ‘going with Trump’ instead of ‘liar’ Kamala Harris
    ‘Everybody I talk to don’t like you,’ the actor said of Vice President Kamala Harris, ‘Ain’t nobody gonna vote for you’
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/actor-comedian-eddie-griffin-says-he-may-going-trump-instead-liar-kamala-harris
    😉

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    Hillbilly 4:24 – “Way before Kamala was in the news”
    That would be the 1970’s dude.
    And Biden has been lying through his whole political career.
    The difference is that Trump is a proven good POTUS and Harris/Walz are proven incompetent idiots.
    And Hillbilly picks the incompetent idiots.
    Cool.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Cannot answer since she is he hard core lefty who she has always been and the cheer leader for creepy grampa joe –
    Multiple CNN commentators revealed that they were “surprised” by Vice President Kamala Harris’ seeming lack of preparation when she was asked how she differs from President Biden on “The View” Tuesday.
    “I was a little bit surprised that she didn’t have a better answer to that question,” CNN host Kasie Hunt said Wednesday morning.
    “I was surprised that she didn’t have a better answer because it was an obvious question,” political analyst Kristen Soltis Anderson said. “It is one of the central questions of this campaign right now. If voters are frustrated with the status quo, what would be different?”
    “It’s also a little baffling because she does have a good answer,”
    In a friendly sit-down on ABC’s “The View,” where she was introduced as the “next President of the United States,” Harris was asked by co-host Sunny Hostin, “would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?”
    Harris responded, “There is not a thing that comes to mind.” The clip quickly went viral as Harris’ Republican foes noted she wasn’t separating herself from the incumbent president.
    “It is just wild to me that she wasn’t more prepared,” Anderson said of Harris’ interview performance on the friendly daytime talk show. “This really speaks to the peril of having been sheltered in the campaign for the last couple weeks and then suddenly doing this massive media blitz.”
    Harris has avoided holding an official press conference for 80 days since becoming the presumptive and now, official Democratic nominee for president.
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/kamala-harris-struggling-shes-different-175846315.html
    😉

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Someone lost their mojo LOL Scolding is always a way to motivate them inspire of their economic plight and watching the billions given to illegals instead of their kids –
    Barack Obama
    Obama calls out ‘brothers’ apprehensive to vote for Harris: ‘You’re thinking of sitting out?’
    In 2020, President Biden also took heat for saying if voters aren’t sure who to vote for, ‘you ain’t Black’
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-calls-out-brothers-apprehensive-vote-harris-youre-thinking-sitting-out
    😉

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  27. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    ^&*() auto correct. In spite not inspire! LOL
    😉

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    …and in that light.

    Rumors on X Becoming the Right’s New Reality…

    Interesting…..the left has been slavishly obedient to opinions emanating from the menopausal hags on “The View”!
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/rumors-on-x-are-becoming-the-right-s-new-reality/ar-AA1s5Arc

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    fish 10:46 – Gasp! Unfounded rumors on social media?
    Why – that has never happened before Musk took over.
    Everyone should only listen to the govt – they are the experts and always tell the truth. Like the govt telling us in no uncertain terms that if you were “vaccinated” with the clot-shot you wouldn’t catch or transmit the WooHoo Flu. And the story about Hunter’s laptop was just Russian dis-info.
    Here’s another example of the experts telling us the absolute truth – this is not a rumor:
    “‘Reckless Conduct’ of Big Oil Caused Milton—And Now They Should Pay”
    It’s the gospel truth – large oil companies (never the smaller ones) cause hurricanes!
    Before they started drilling for oil there were never any destructive hurricanes in the Gulf Of Mexico – just ask the Spanish.
    Of course the same people:
    “Yea! We won the court case – big oil has to pay!”
    “Hey – how come gasoline is 8 bucks a gallon all of a sudden?”
    You can’t fix stupid.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/reckless-conduct-of-big-oil-caused-milton-and-now-they-should-pay/ar-AA1s6UeS?cvid=f8b1dc4eb46a46b4bbca2e62e5fc17d8&ei=27

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    What does it mean to you when retired Army Gen. Mark Milley, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden says these things about Trump, the man who appointed him to the position?
    “He is the most dangerous person ever,” Milley told Bob Woodward according to The Guardian. “I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country.”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mark-milley-trump-total-fascist-bob-woodward-book_n_670996ade4b03acb5636d49b
    .

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Tone deaf elites lecturing is not going to move the dial and may alienate undecideds. –
    ‘Wrong’ for Barack Obama to ‘lecture’ Black men for not supporting Kamala Harris: Ex-Bernie Sanders adviser
    ‘It is a wrong course for the Harris-Walz campaign to lay at the feet of Black men when they have their reasons,’ said Nina Turner
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/wrong-barack-obama-lecture-black-men-not-supporting-kamala-harris-ex-bernie-sanders-adviser
    😉

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  32. Scott O Avatar

    “What does it mean to you…”
    That Miley is joining the Hate-Trump pile on of telling nothing but stupid lies about Trump because morons like Hillbilly and Paul lap this crap up.
    Trump was POTUS and he did a far better job than Biden at keeping the world peaceful.
    “…but now I realize he’s a total fascist.”
    Because why? He’s done or said nothing of a fascist nature.
    They told us the same lies about Trump before the first time he was elected and it was all BS.

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  33. Scott O Avatar

    Following onto Walz’s pathetic attempt at acting in an ad trying to be a “bro-dude” we have this hilarious ad for the Harris/Walz campaign wherein we see who the “real” men are voting for. Even if you’ve seen the ad scroll down to the link to the post on X by Bad Hombre. He lays out exactly who the actors (you didn’t think they could find real men that were going to vote Harris) are portraying pathetic attempts at being “real men”. One guy actually claims to ‘eat carburetors for breakfast’! The “bad ass biker” dude poses in front of an old BMW air head with the tank removed. What? – no Vespa or Honda step-through?
    As you can imagine, some aren’t really the kind of men that the dudes the ad is aimed at would really consider to be manly men. It turns out some of them put something other than carburetors in their mouths.
    It’s so sad, it’s hilarious.
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/10/man-enough-to-vote-for-a-lousy-candidate.php

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  34. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Creepy grampa joe has his boney claw wrapped tightly around her ankle and showing he wants her to lose –
    Vice President Kamala Harris has attempted to separate herself from President Joe Biden’s unpopular presidency, but a majority still believe she would continue with the policies of the Biden administration.
    An ABC News-Ipsos poll released Friday shows that the vast majority of adults, 74%, want Harris to take a different direction from the Biden administration, but only 33% believe she will do so if elected to the presidency.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/harris-not-overcoming-ties-to-unpopular-biden-despite-distancing-poll/ar-AA1s6pQI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ec1b109438644f34be907a6eecd63f39&ei=82
    😉

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  35. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    How do you know they were lies that Miley told about Trump? Do you know that as a fact or do you just THINK they were lies? Indeed Miley was an accomplished full General who became Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and a man of integrity so why would he lie about Trump?

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  36. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    How does being a general magically make one virtuous?

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  37. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Milley is a f’in idiot.
    Nice to see punchy off of his Kamalala ranting. Reality?

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  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    A Milleyism…
    “”I’ve read Mao Zedong, I’ve read Karl Marx. I’ve read Lenin. That doesn’t make me a communist,” Milley continued. “So what is wrong with some situational understanding of the country for which we are personally here to defend?”
    There are Critical Theories and Traditional Theories… only the latter are designed to convey understanding of the nation. Critical Theories are stories made up to destroy the country.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What is the information Gregory that you used in calling Miley an idiot?

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It’s from the same place I refer to to call you an idiot, Punch.

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    BTW, I was referring to General Milley. Are you trying to refer to singer Miley Cyrus?

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