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215 responses to “Sandbox – 15sep24”
Here is your girl oh great ponytail of ignorance perhaps you can translate it for us –
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/20/kamala-harris-gives-90-word-rambling-response-plan-lower-costs/
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Punchy,
I don’t like Oliver whatshisface. I listened to him speak and read his words. Not a candidate with positions and habits that I look for in a Libertarian candidate for President. He did not impress me as a standard bearer for the LP, and he’s come out as a big supporter of ranked choice voting, a monstrosity that I’d not want the LP to be tied to in anyone’s mind.
So, Punch, shut the fuck up. I don’t want to read your slanders anymore. I am not a Trump supporter and I will have words with you when I next see you.
We have unfinished business.
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Green Libertarian belief is a philosophy not a political party fish. We believe we should not need a government to instruct us how to treat the earth. We should do it naturally without laws. If we don’t follow natures paths, well as the bible says “Earth Abides” and will carry on in it’s own path with no regard to human inhabitants. The story of Adam and Eve is a great beginning of a discussion on the topic.
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Hilarious:
“We believe we should not need a government to instruct us how to treat the earth.”
The entire “green” movement (and the Dem party) is based on NOTHING but govt rules and regulations of how we should conduct our lives and businesses in relation to the earth.
“We should do it naturally without laws”
“Nature” is filled with laws. The laws of physics, the law of supply and demand. Ignore them at your peril.
Saying what we “should” do is childish fantasy – we got kicked out of the Garden eons ago and woulda, coulda, shoulda is just a pipe dream.
“If we don’t follow natures paths,”
I can see why he’s a Harris fan – nothing but vacuous BS.
“Nature’s path” is anything you want it to be. Dog eat dog. See something you want and just take it.
We live in a civilization that is highly developed and complex. Deal with reality, please.
As I have said many times before – “green libertarian” has got to be the all-time best definition of oxymoron out there.
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Scott
Do you believe we need laws to force humans not to pollute the air and water?
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Posted by: Weez Emery | 20 September 2024 at 04:00 PM
Do you believe we need laws to force humans not to pollute the air and water?
Good…we have you on record as calling for the elimination of all environmental laws……
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Paul 4:00 – That would depend on what your definition of “need” is.
In the absolute sense of the word “need”, clearly we don’t.
I’d love to have Paul explain “We should do it naturally without laws”.
But he won’t because it’s just virtue-signaling blather. Just what is “naturally” in this case? Animals “naturally” stand and piss in the water they drink – is that what you mean?
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Now we know who has been running the county, sitting at the head of the table at a cabinet meeting jill be –
Social media erupts after president throws to Jill Biden to speak at Cabinet meeting: ‘All yours, kid’
‘No one voted for her to be there,’
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Scott
Animals naturally over populate themselves then suffer near or complete extinction. We as human beings are also animals and could suffer the same fate due to our abuse of the earth. Sad but true buts that’s why we have to have laws to insure our survival.
I’m sure you agree with me on that observation.
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WOW how profound and deep, deep as a micron ya po ol ponytail of ignorance. A micron deep! LOL
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“and could suffer the same fate due to our abuse of the earth.”
Nope.
Most large scale human die-offs are due to governmental action of some sort. If humans become extinct it won’t be because we “abused” the earth.
Not sure what the hell earth-abuse is. If I dig in the ground in my back yard is that abuse?
The last “natural” event that caused a lot of human deaths was Krakatoa. Nothing to do with anything humans did. If a decent sized meteorite slams into the earth we could very well have a mass extinction event. It’s happened before and the earth just kept on doing its thing.
I think you are (like most green weenies) confusing “harming the earth” with – “I like to see nice trees and bunny rabbits and have things the way they are”.
There’s a big difference.
As far as needing laws – could have sworn you just said you don’t want to have any laws.
That would be anarchy. I like laws that protect the rights of myself and others and protect me from authoritarian govts.
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The leader of the congressional jihadi caucus has not sense of humor, DUH ROFLOL –
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-congresswoman-slams-cartoon-of-her-next-to-exploding-pager/ar-AA1qWcZN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f88f2a226cb64b01884a565e79115987&ei=386
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We need laws to protect the earth from ourselves Scott. Look at Hydraulic mining as a local example. Are you contending that Hydraulic Mining should not have been made illegal?
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We should not NEED laws Scott. We should naturally, instinctually and spiritually have lifestyles that protect the earth but we don’t. That’s why we need laws.
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“Are you contending that Hydraulic Mining should not have been made illegal?”
Did I say that, Paul?
And we all notice you’re not answering any of my questions – just going to weasel mode.
“…lifestyles that protect the earth but we don’t.”
You keep talking about “harming” the earth and “protecting” the earth but you won’t tell anyone what you’re talking about.
I ask again – if I stick a shovel in the ground, does that “harm” the earth? Is a volcano going off “self-harming” by the earth?
Like Harris – you refuse to answer questions and you talk in meaningless platitudes. No wonder you like her.
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Posted by: Scott O | 21 September 2024 at 08:10 AM
And we all notice you’re not answering any of my questions – just going to weasel mode.
You know, Weez “did grow up in a middle class household……”!
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Yep – this is why Paul and the Hillbilly love them some Harris/Walz. From this morning’s Power Line:
“Harris doesn’t say a damn thing. She invites you to project your deepest wishes onto the platitudes whirring in the windmills of her mind. She means to keep up “the fundamental transformation” of the United States, but she is coy about it. She’s not letting on.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/09/the-art-of-vacuity.php
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Scott
I’m using hydraulic mining legislation as an example of government action to protect he environment. Do you support government restrictions on hydraulic mining?
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Oh looky – another horse to beat incessantly.
The funny thing is that Paul has no clue as to why they passed laws against hydraulic mining.
Hint:
It wasn’t to “protect” the earth.
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I was because the valley was flooded with dirt runoffs as a result of hydraulic mining. Do you support the illegality of hydraulic mining Scott?
Here’s some information as to why it was made illegal:
“The farmers, tired of having to incur huge losses as a result of the mining activities upstream, came together in support of a property owner in Marysville named Woodruff who filed a lawsuit against the North Bloomfield Mining and Gravel Company in 1883. The case was decided in January 1884 with Judge Lorenzo Sawyer declaring that hydraulic mining is illegal.
This was the first environmental related judgment in the United States. This Judgment was responsible for putting an end to the use of hydraulic mining in the Californian gold fields. This effectively ended the gold mining at the Malakoff Mine.” More here:
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?type=type9097303-spa-4056-84481¶m1=4056¶m2=84481&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=mnet&fr=yhs-mnet-001&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Aw%2Cm%3Ars-algo%2Cct%3Agossip&p=wny%20was%20hydraulic%20mining%20made%20illegal%20in%20america
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Now, Punch… think.
Was the decision to protect the Earth or to protect that farmer from monetary losses?
Cue Jeapardy! theme.
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Both Gregory
Protecting the earth was necessary to maintain quality of life in California.
The valley was a mess because of the man made environmental disaster caused by hydraulic mining. Do you support the govetrnment intervention that stopped hydraulic mining?
Read my link for details.
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Hilarious!
“The valley was a mess”
No – it wasn’t. The Sacramento/San Joaquin Valleys are nothing but dirt and silt and rocks that came from the hills and mountains around them.
The “problem” had absolutely nothing do do with “harming the earth”. It had to do with property/structure loss due to flooding.
Paul keeps talking about “harming” the earth but it’s now clear he has no idea of what he’s talking about. If I so much as scratch your skin, I’ve harmed you.
If Paul isn’t going to define what “earth harm” is then the discussion is finished.
I’ll assume Green Libertarian is just a BS term and has whatever meaning it needs to in any given situation. 9/10s virtue signaling and a smattering of whatever is picked up from the moist finger in the wind.
“I am for good because good is good” and if you disagree with anything else I say, then you’re against “good”.
Save it for the Miss America pageant.
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2 days old but in case you missed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIz-aoZFzM4
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Do you support the illegality of hydraulic mining Scott?
Do you ever notice how Weez will seize on a practice that nobody here has ever endorsed and that hasn’t been done in over 100 years and then ask over and over if you support it? This in the desperate hope that you might respond that you do. And you might answer in the affirmative inadvertently or perhaps thinking that it might shut him up…..! Then the scolding can begin…..
I can only assume that this habit stems from a catastrophically fucked up childhood.
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Moot point Scott. Do you support the band on hydraulic mining?
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Paul 1:21 – Again is in full weasel mode and has found another dead horse to whip.
Whip it good!
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I’d bet a box of Entemman’s Pumpkin doughnuts the judge in the case had nothing to say supporting Punchy’s latest delusion.
Said doughnuts are available now. Yumm!
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Posted by: Weez Emeryb | 21 September 2024 at 01:21 PM
Yeah Scott ….are you with the band on this one or not? Because if you’re not with the band we’re going to have to find a new drummer.
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Which band are youse guys supporting?
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The thought police lose a round –
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/09/21/massive-victory-irish-government-drops-draconian-hate-speech-legislation-after-backlash/
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No destructive to the Valley Gregory and Scott? Check out this:
Hydraulic mining during California’s gold rush was probably the most destructive environmental practice in the state’s history.
“By the 1870s, the catastrophic consequences of hydraulic mining were impossible to ignore. Downstream communities, most notably Marysville and Sacramento, suffered frequent and devastating floods exacerbated by mining debris. Agricultural lands were rendered useless by layers of sterile slickens, and fish populations in rivers dwindled alarmingly. The long-term health impacts of widespread mercury contamination are still being understood today.
The tension between the mining industry and the downstream farming communities ultimately culminated in the landmark case of Woodruff vs. North Bloomfield Gravel Mining Company in 1884. This case, presided over by Judge Lorenzo Sawyer, resulted in the famous “Sawyer Decision,” which effectively banned hydraulic mining due to its destructive environmental impact.
But while the Sawyer Decision marked the end of large-scale hydraulic mining, the scars left on the landscape of Northern California are far from healed. The evidence of this destruction is still visible in the stark, eroded hillsides and vast debris fields of Malakoff Diggins State Historic Park in Nevada County, once the site of California’s largest hydraulic mine.”
https://californiacurated.com/2023/06/07/the-unearthed-truth-hydraulic-minings-lingering-legacy-in-california/
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 September 2024 at 04:21 PM
Yeah…..and you guys support it! It’s obvious! After all you haven’t come out and denounced it like Weez has…..he’s good thinkful and you guys aren’t It’s just like Trump….unless it’s the “Two Minutes Hate” like Weez practices then you are obviously supporters….
Obviously……it’s obvious!
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…..and in other news Democrat.
“Who’s Running The Country…” – Why Is Jill Biden Chairing A Cabinet Meeting?
I’m sure the Green Libertarians in the audience would say it’s “more democratic”.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/whos-running-country-why-jill-biden-chairing-cabinet-meeting
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Paul 4:21 – “No(sic) destructive to the Valley Gregory and Scott?
Did I say that, Paul? No – I didn’t.
Were you dropped on your head at birth? Would explain a lot.
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“Why Is Jill Biden Chairing A Cabinet Meeting?”
Um – it was her turn?
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“Why Is Jill Biden Chairing A Cabinet Meeting?”
I know – they screwed up the scheduling and it ended up being held when it’s Joe’s time for ice cream and his fav cartoon show on TV!
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Punchy, so did the run off cause the flooding… or just make it worse?
What does the word “exacerbate” mean?
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scotto
I think you hit that nail right on its head.
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The bottom line Gregory is do you support “Sawyer Decision,” which effectively banned hydraulic mining due to its destructive environmental impact?
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Didnt see that one coming –
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/09/21/exclusive-arab-american-democrat-mayor-key-michigan-county-had-very-productive-meeting-with-donald-trump-weighs-endorsement/
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The bottom line, Punch, is that I’ve not said anything about the Sawyer decision.
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Well then Gregory do you support the “Sawyer Decision,” which effectively banned hydraulic mining due to its destructive environmental impact?
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Why do you need to know, Punch?
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SO Emery, by your silence and ignoring my entry, you must have no problem with the increase in homeless people on the street, increased crime, a lessening of crimes committed due to Prop 14, and the in your face defecation in the streets and other areas and the legalization or turning the other cheek to public drug usageWe’ve seen in here in Nevada County and other cities here in California.
So Enmery, are ok with all of the above occurring in the streets of our communities in Nevada County and all of California??? And in advance, I don’t cite data, only what I observe each and every day.
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Gregory
I’m curious as to whether your opposition to the government getting involved with environmental restrictions is the same as Scott who does not support the banning of hydraulic mining as it was in California in 1884.
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kid 8:53 – Paul ignores all my questions. He goes on and on about “harming the earth” but when I ask him specific questions about what that means he goes weasel and changes the topic to property destruction.
There is nothing in the Sawyer decision about harming the earth.
On top of that he tells outright lies. His brain just doesn’t function properly.
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Sorry, Scott O. I can’t resist.
Again, Emery, as you have done countless occasions…and I will try to explain a little bit for your feeble mind…
Are you okay with the homeless, living on the streets, fouling our cities’ sidewalks, parks and wildland areas, the lessening of criminal penalties by Prop 14, espoused by progressive DAs like Gascon in LA and Bedouin (hope I spelled that right)in SF, the public drug sales and usage on our streets and the daily acts of depravation on the streets of our communities in Nevada County and California.
So, by your silence, it seems that you and your progressive friends condone what is happening in our communities.
And since you are a past “newsman”, I have attempted to write this as all newspapers write…at a fifth grade level so that you, as a former “newshawk,” will understand it.
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Looks like he forgot the the hyena and creepy grampa joe have made the mess we are suffering with. She acts like they have not been in power and tampon tim is parroting it. The voters know! LOL –
Walz roasted after making puzzling gaffe during rally: ‘Four more years of this’
The Democratic vice presidential nominee appeared to ramble about ‘four more years’
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Do tell –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/09/21/democrats-losing-mail-in-voting-advantage-over-gop-in-swing-states-florida/
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