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In this election year which promises to be a political milestone (watershed?) two significant neo-Marxist messages from Democratic politicians blanketed the country yesterday.  Presidential candidate and VP Kamala Harris told the nation that her economic program (here) going forward would be based on government price controls in order to control inflation.  And Rep Ro Khanna (D-CA17) wrote an excellent article (here) in the 17aug24 WSJ contrasting his and VP candidate Sen JD Vance’s (R-OH) views on industrial policy.  Both progressive politicians cannot see America’s private sector making the country’s economy work without massive participation by the federal government that involves more regulatory controls, more directed subsidies, higher taxes on industry and ‘the rich’, and a heavily unionized workforce blessed with ‘living wages’ and price controls.

DemocratFactories2024Rep Khanna’s piece is well written and very convincing to an audience mired in ignorance about economics, finance, human behavior, and the history of socialist governance here and abroad.  Unfortunately about two out of three Americans are so burdened as they attempt to make sense of the current daily tsunami of political punditry.  Khanna’s essay is both effective and impactive through the way he erroneously characterizes conservative thought, policies, and its ideological tenets.  He constructs excellent strawmen (i.e. lies) which are then readily demolished by his adroit wordsmithing.

One of the prime fallacies both Harris and Khanna promulgate is that government price controls actually work in managing a national economy to the benefit of its citizens.  Each presents that as an axiomatic notion of truth requiring no evidence to support it.  Central to their message to the benighted is that fixing prices does not affect supply and stifle economic growth.  The common thread from both politicians is that the Democrats have been and are the competent stewards of our economy who build factories and make jobs for main street.

No one of the Left understands any of the basic science of how nature manages complexity.  Their ideas about how complex economies work is based on a small trove of simplistic slogans and shibboleths that are demonstrably wrong.  And principles like ‘you cannot control what you cannot measure’ is also beyond their ken.  They still have no idea how primitive are our methods of collecting relevant, accurate, and timely economic data, and then using it to fashion information that would come close to supporting correct policy decisions made by a cohort of centrally controlling technicians.

As a coda to the above riff, I want to remind present day readers, most not all that interested in the view from my perch, that a prime motivation of this blog is to insert a collection of my observations into the great archive in the cloud – ‘the internet is forever’ – which may someday be dredged up by future data archeologists studying the mentality of the citizenry that allowed their great nation at its apex to go to hell in a handcart.

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80 responses to “America’s Downward Spiral – A Revealing Snapshot”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    More evidence of Global warming:
    https://yubanet.com/enviro/andean-glaciers-have-retreated-to-lowest-levels-in-11700-years-news-study-finds/
    by Boston College August 5, 2024
    Andean glaciers have retreated to lowest levels in 11,700 years, news study finds
    No longer covered in ice, Andean rocks signal the world’s glaciers are melting faster than predicted
    “We have pretty strong evidence that these glaciers are smaller now than they have been any time in the past 11,000 years,” said Shakun, a paleoclimatologist and co-author of the report. “Given that modern glacier retreat is mostly due to rising temperatures – as opposed to less snowfall, or changes in cloud cover – our findings suggest the tropics have already warmed outside their Holocene range and into the Anthropocene.”
    In other words, the glaciers may no longer be classified as being of the Holocene interglacial period, a significant epoch that saw the birth of civilization, where the flow of water and sea level dictated where towns and cities formed, and where agricultural and commercial activity emerged. Instead, they may be best classified by an epoch that may be well on its way to spelling their end: the Anthropocene.
    The findings signal more of the world’s glaciers are likely retreating far faster than predicted, possibly decades ahead of a grim climatological schedule.
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adg7546

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Weasel Emery | 18 August 2024 at 06:23 PM
    HeY KidZ…..toPIc Not WOrKINg Out FoR U?
    SouNDz LIkE It’Z tIMe foR a paTentED WeAsEl suBJecT PivoT!
    ….cue Yakkety Sax….!

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  3. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    … and Punch… what was the cause of the warm spell 11,000 years ago?

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Did you bother to follow my link Gregory?

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    What do you think, Punch?

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  6. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Did you bother to follow my link Gregory?”
    Posting ‘what this guy sez’ is no way to live life, psul.
    In any case, when you start using a bicycle exclusively or buy a Tesla to stop your extreme greenhouse gas consumption, post up a picture. I’m sure everyone would be fascinated with your public-spirited activities.

    I’m afraid that Grateful Dead cover bands ain’t gonna save the world.

    GeorgeR: “which may someday be dredged up by future data archeologists ”
    Don’t worry, the Chinese guys going through the wreckage won’t blame you.
    We all leave our notes in bottles, but I value mine at the price everyone pays for them, just a drop of water in an endless sea.
    In any case, I’m afraid that hell in a hand basket was always baked into the cake, to mix metaphors. Feature creep of bureaucracy is a thing and large organizations are always used as a tool by it’s management for self-aggrandizement. The Soviet Union was a pure play in status seeking and dachas in resort areas, but no one took the lesson. Eventually the currency fails, bureaucracies rot and tear apart, the center cannot hold.

    It’s all good.

    Worrying about Republicans vs. Democrats is all well and good, but I don’t expect much change soon. Insane teachers will still sexualize children in public schools. Men will wear dresses. The 3rd world wants to come eat the Little Red Hen’s bread. Police will ignore public nuisances but criminalize social media posts. Money will be stolen from plumbing contractors and handed out to forgive useless college degrees and well-connected non-profits. Pride Town will put up ever more political banners. The ratio of producers to consumers will grow ever worse. Local people protesting Middle East problems will keep on keepin’ on.
    This is all at the retail level and the only answer seems to be to keep your head down. Protect your assets and protect your ass.

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  7. Eulogized Hillbilly Avatar
    Eulogized Hillbilly

    Downward spiral Case No. 857-4321
    DeSantis Chinese Exclusion Act
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ron-desantis-backed-law-barring-190040291.html?

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Citizens of Communist China, Hillbilly.

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  9. Scott O Avatar

    Gregory – Amusing to see the Hillbilly expose his stupidity. You could be a white person with blonde hair born in Sweden but also be a “Chinese national”.
    This isn’t about race or where you were born. But the Dems need anything to fire up their base to avoid having to deal with reality.

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  10. Scott O Avatar

    Here’s another nail ready to pound into our nation’s coffin:
    “Host Kayna Whitworth asked, “I do want to ask you about what Vice President Harris said yesterday. She was asked how she would pay for her quite ambitious economic plan that was unveiled on Friday, and she said return on investment is how she would plan to pay for that. Can you elaborate for us on what that means?”
    Murphy responded, “Yeah, when you put money in the pockets of very poor families, that money goes right back into the economy. That money creates jobs. And so, making investments in the middle of the country, in some of the families that are struggling the most can end up growing the overall size of the economy. I’m sure, when she presents this plan to Congress, when she wins, she’s going to have more details around it.”
    In the first place – we don’t have any money – we’re broke. It’s all borrowed and has to be paid back with interest.
    Giving money to poor families makes them increasingly dependent, not self reliant. The money you give them is spent on junk food, drugs and cheap crap from China. It “creates” almost no new jobs other than burger flippers and Amazon warehouse sorters.
    But they’ll vote Dem – and that’s the main thing.
    As far as the exact plan being kept secret until after the election…
    P.T. Barnum wasn’t wrong.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Could not even give an answer at a staged event, i love they had to do multiple takes at the gas station daritos bag buy! LOL –
    Pittsburgh diners fume over ‘staged’ Harris campaign stop as popular restaurant cleared: ‘Mind-boggling’
    Harris was also ripped for stopping for a snack at Sheetz, a convenience store the administration is currently suing
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pittsburgh-diners-fume-after-restaurant-cleared-staged-harris-campaign-stop-mindboggling
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-avoids-answering-how-she-will-pay-for-economic-policies/ar-AA1p1h44?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e3ff82d2745b419097416f505a4a9768&ei=68
    😉

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  12. Scott O Avatar

    “The Harris campaign said any additional costs above the 2025 Biden-Harris budget would be offset by increased taxes on corporations and high earners.”
    And the corps will pass along the increased taxes to the public or just leave.
    The “high earners” will find more creative ways to dodge it or just decamp to tax havens.
    And our nation will end up with way less money in private circulation to fund new businesses or help existing businesses expand.
    The fed govt is sucking up all the money and the Dems want to supercharge it. Should work a treat.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-avoids-answering-how-she-will-pay-for-economic-policies/ar-AA1p1h44?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e3ff82d2745b419097416f505a4a9768&ei=68

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott writes
    “The fed govt is sucking up all the money and the Dems want to supercharge it.”
    The Dems have a way to go to surpass Trumps nearly 8 trillion in 4 years and Trump wants to return to see if he can do better. “

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    “The Dems have a way to go to surpass Trumps nearly 8 trillion”
    They’ve already blown past it, dude.
    And…
    During the “best economy ever”

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    Why the Democrat Party thrives…..

    She has a special affection for Tonka, a 32-year-old chimp retired from a career in Hollywood, where he appeared in George of the Jungle, Babe: Pig in the City, and Buddy. She adds: “Tonka and I just found each other. It was meant to be. It was just natural and Tonka loved me as much as I love Tonka. It’s like your love for God.”
    Haddix’s biological son confirms that he has become used to playing second fiddle to Tonka in his mother’s affections. Sitting on a upturned bucket with an air of resignation, he says on camera: “I’ve never seen her that passionate about anything in my life, ever, and that includes her own son.”
    Goode reflects: “It’s complex. She possibly loves a chimpanzee more than her own children. It’s obsessive. It’s real: she absolutely loves this chimpanzee. But there’s probably also some – and I’m not a trained in this area – mental health issues that reside in a number of these women. Why they need so desperately to have that relationship versus a normal, loving relationship that we typically have.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/aug/20/hbo-chimp-crazy-documentary

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Again….his only real crime….not being a democrat!

    Santos pleads guilty to charges of money laundering, identity theft and fraud…
    FACES 6-8 YEARS…

    If he is…..this all goes away and he is a cherished and protected member of congress for as long as he obeys.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna129255

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    “Fed Confronts Up to a Million US Jobs Vanishing in Revision”
    Ah, yes – another month, another “revision”.
    Another 4 years of this “best economy ever” and we’ll be into a depression.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/fed-confronts-up-to-a-million-us-jobs-vanishing-in-revision/ar-AA1p6yZu

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  18. Scott O Avatar

    Downward spiral? Oh, heck no!
    “A national “Stand Tall for Small” initiative would breathe new life and energy into small-town America not only by supporting their small businesses but also by cleaning their rivers, renovating their theaters, and rebuilding their downtowns replete with parks, outdoor amphitheaters, breweries, wineries, art, and music.”
    By gosh, that’ll do it! Soon as we get those movie houses, bars and fancy-pants gin mills up and running everyone in small town will fire up their BMWs and cruise on down for 24/7 fun!
    I’ll betcha Trump could never have thought this one up! It won’t cost anything because it will all be an investment!
    Our country is doomed.
    https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harriss-prosecutor-populism-will-save-americas-forgotten-working-class-opinion-1941833

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Should have done the interviews hyena-
    CNN’s Jennings: Dems Have Controlled White House for 12 of the Last 16 Years — Somehow It’s Still All Trump’s Fault
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/20/cnns-jennings-dems-have-controlled-white-house-for-12-of-the-last-16-years-somehow-its-still-all-trumps-fault/
    😉

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Thats going to leave a mark –
    Leftist Speaker: Trump May Win the White House Because Kamala and Joe Sold Out the Working Class
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/20/leftist-speaker-trump-may-win-the-white-house-because-kamala-and-joe-sold-out-the-working-class/
    😉

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  21. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Trump supporters “can’t think, can’t read very well.””
    – President Potato at the DNC
    Well, there you have it. I’ve always wondered why ‘progressives’ seem so very very well-read.

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  22. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    this is from ‘stillgray’ (Ian Cheong) on X.
    “You won’t make it out alive if you go to jail for posting a mean tweet in the UK. The legacy media wants you to know this the next time you decide to slam the British government’s mass immigration policies.
    “Someone who told me, who knows about these things, said ‘Far Right’ prisoners can expect a very ‘cold’ reception in jail.””
    …which got me to thinking about lawfare and political prisoners generally.
    The Soviets had a model where the camps were basically run by the criminal gangs, political prisoners were considered the lowest of the low, brutalized more by the system, worked to death.
    I wonder if that’s simply baked into the cake of repressive left-wing regimes. You sweep up the political enemies and then allow the dregs of the earth to physically punish them in whatever way they find entertaining.
    There’s probably a book in there somewhere, need to look into leftist Latin America or Red China. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jan 6th folks have had a bit of that treatment. Just another day in Blue Mob America I guess.

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Behold Sneha Nair: Special Assistant, National Nuclear Security Administration
    https://www.energy.gov/person/sneha-nair
    https://thebulletin.org/2023/06/queering-nuclear-weapons-how-lgbtq-inclusion-strengthens-security-and-reshapes-disarmament/
    “During this Pride Month, we would like Bulletin readers to understand that the visible representation and meaningful participation of queer people matters for nuclear policy outcomes.”
    Sorry, I’m going to have to vote for mentally-ill people shouldn’t make nuclear policy.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Somehow according to the Trumpsters on this blog it’s always the Dems fault that the economy always crashes when the Repubs are in the White House. Check out
    1932,2008,2020

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  25. Scott O Avatar

    Paul:
    “Somehow according to the Trumpsters on this blog…”
    Name them and give examples…
    There are laws and fiscal policies that are good for the economy and those that degrade our economy.
    Both parties have done both, but the Dems are far and away the worst offenders. The Dems in the 30s set this country up with SS and again in the 60s with Medicare. These programs are now ruining our nation with debt.
    It looks like the Dems are set for firing off even more ruinous taxation schemes.
    Compare Dem run states and cities against R run ones.
    It’s clear the Dems are poor managers of our public funds.
    There are plenty of big spending, big govt Republicans but I notice they are usually part of the anti-Trump crowd.

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Would you care to compare the economy that Bush inherited from Clinton with the one Obama inherited from Bush? Are you saying that Bush was not at all responsible for the collapse? Also compare the economy that Trump inherited from Obama with the one he left Biden. The Repubs controlled most of the Legislature during that four years so why the collapse? Also look at the mess Hoover left Roosevelt. Was that the fault of the Dems?
    Seems like the economy always collapses only when the Repubs run the show.

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  27. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – you made a statement in your 12:38 that was false. I challenged you to provide proof and you didn’t even try.
    You are a buffoon. A waste of time.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    I gave you “proof” with the precise dates that I included. Once again here are the dates: 1932 2008,2020
    These are the dates the Dems inherited the economy after Republican Presidential and Legislative control. I don’t need to present details about the grim nature of the economy on those dates, if you don’t know that you are indeed ignorant. What “proof” do you need?

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    By the way Scott, what option for health care,if any, would you recommend rather than Medicare?

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Weasel Emery | 21 August 2024 at 03:22 PM
    As a finally out of the closet progressive democrat why don’t you just be smug about it vote for “Heels Up” and stop crapping up the comment threads….
    What on earth did you and George talk about during these “lunches” you spoke of?

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So fish me disagreeing with your opinion means I’m “crapping up” the comment threads. Sorry for you that you can’t handle a reasonable discussion on the issues George brings up on his blog. You are the one who doesn’t belong here. No wonder you won’t use your real name.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Weasel Emery | 21 August 2024 at 03:51 PM
    You repeat the same nonsense constantly, can’t remember a thing and hey….what’s up with not reading those links you constantly whine for?
    You are the proverbial “Chicken playing Checkers” walking in circles and crapping all over the board!
    ….and hey….thanks in advance for agreeing with me!

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  33. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 3:22 – Dates aren’t names. You lied again, Paul.
    You’re just a waste of time.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Dates are facts Scott. Sorry you don’t understand that.
    Here’s a question Scott. What option for health care,if any, would you recommend rather than Medicare?

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  35. Scott O Avatar

    Hilarious!
    “Dates are facts Scott. Sorry you don’t understand that.”
    No, Paul – dates are just dates.
    I asked you for names and examples.
    We already know you can’t provide them so please dispense with the weasel act.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Names and examples for what Scott? I was talking about the fact that the three greatest economic downturns were during Republican administrations and the Democrats inherited the situations. They were in 1932 2008 and 2020. What more do you need to know? Somehow you refuse to accept that historic reality. What”names” are necessary to look at these historical events? Do you want to know the names of the Republican Presidents that passed on the situation to the Democratic Presidents? I can do that but it should not be necessary. Here they are. Hoover passed on the depression to Roosevelt in 1932, Bush left the economy in a total collapse to Obama in 2908 as did Trump to Biden in 2020.
    There you go. What more do you need?

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  37. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Roosevelt made the great depression longer and deeper, doing the crap that Harris/Walz want to do.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    But you admit Gregory that he inherited the depression from Hoover

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  39. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    FDR inherited a garden variety recession that he made worse. Lots worse.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Gregory are you are saying that 1932 was a recession not a depression?

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It wasn’t a depression caused by Hoover. Sorry, Punch.

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    I’m getting kinda bored giving you guys history lessions.
    It’s generally accepted fact that the recession became a depression in 1929, right at the beginning of Republican Hoovers Presidency (1929-1933).
    This is from Britannica but can be verified by many sources
    ” Great Depression, worldwide economic downturn that began in 1929 and lasted until about 1939. It was the longest and most severe depression ever experienced by the industrialized Western world, sparking fundamental changes in economic institutions, macroeconomic policy, and economic theory. Although it originated in the United States, the Great Depression caused drastic declines in output, severe unemployment, and acute deflation in almost every country of the world. Its social and cultural effects were no less staggering, especially in the United States, where the Great Depression represented the harshest adversity faced by Americans since the Civil War.”
    https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Depression

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  43. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    And what did Hoover do wrong?
    You have the same script running in ’32, ’08 and ’20: Gop screwups with Dems to the rescue armed with other peoples’ money.
    That’s not reality.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You’re right Gregory. it took the Dems to pull us out of the mess the Repubs left in all three situations. Not a pretty picture but true.
    For example what economy would be better to inherit for a new President, the one Clinton left for Bush or the one Bush left for Obama. Also which would be bette economy Obama left for Trump or the one Trump left for Biden?

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  45. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Not a pretty picture but true”
    Not true. Partisan bullshite.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    sp
    Also which would be better, the economy Obama left for Trump or the one Trump left for Biden?

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  47. Scott O Avatar

    Paul:
    “Names and examples for what Scott?”
    So – you really are in senility, Paul. You can’t even track a post from one hour to the next.
    Or else it’s brain damage – TDS will do that.

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