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George Rebane

One of our politicians, I now forget who, recently let slip the notion that American blacks have benefitted from having ancestors who were slaves – he stated that American slavery had bestowed redeemable aspects on those progenies who today share protected freedoms with our white population.

Of course, the politician was immediately attacked as a racist for proposing that slavery had any redeemable features at all.  In response he immediately succumbed and offered profuse apologies for his obvious error.  And the matter appears to have been settled as strong reminder that no one should ever again publicly imply that slavery was a “positive good in the United States” as was the regular habit of ante-bellum southern politicians during the 1810-1860 period. (more here)

Most people today reject the oratorical arguments of men like John C. Calhoun, et al. holding that regulated slavery vs unregulated free labor was indeed a “positive good” for civilized society.  But giving the matter a little more thought does bring up another perspective.  And that is in the comparison of the quality of life enjoyed today by the African-Americans to that of the trials and tribulations available to sub Sahel African blacks.  It is clear to many, most certainly to our African-Americans, that America continues to provide a much higher quality of life and opportunity for our black citizenry.  All one has to do is look at the predominance of which direction migration is taking place between the two continents.

In short, one can argue that whatever suffering our slaves went through compared to the then concurrent life of their African cousins on a continent of constant combat and corruption, our slaves bequeathed their posterity a much better environment in which to pursue their happiness than did those who remained in Africa.

If this has been a redeeming feature of American slavery, it most certainly was not planned that way a couple of centuries ago.  But today it is what it is, and therefore may require some more thought when we reconsider the darker side of our history.

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26 responses to “Redeeming Aspects of American Slavery?”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    96% of Africans captured by their bretheren for export didn’t get shipped to north America… only one of every 25 got to what became the USA.
    It no doubt sucked to be a slave from Africa. It also wasn’t a walk in the park to be an off the boat Irishman.

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  2. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    I thought you might be referring to Florida’s 2023 Social Studies curriculum which indicated that “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” Despite indicating that those slaves were intelligent enough to develop skills, the revelation of this instruction was met with a very strong knee-jerk reaction.

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  3. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Not much talk about the Native Americans who were treated worse than black folk during the Slave Days.
    At least the blacks were kept alive for the most part while there were bounties on the indians and all their land was Putinized as they were cleansed ethnically.
    The forced-to-attend indian schools also trained their students in various skills so they might enter “polite” society.
    I guess they also should be so grateful to whitey.

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  4. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    Posted by: Fat Juan | 04 October 2023 at 08:23 AM
    HARDER…..virtue signal harder !!!

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Native tribes were slavers, too.
    Even before whitey.

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  6. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Gregory,
    I guess straight white males need to get over themselves, Lol!
    Have a great day!

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  7. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Not at all, Juanny. Folks enamored by Critical Theories of all sorts need to get over straight White Male hate.
    That includes people like you (assumed to be Jeff Pellini) who think they will be on top of the slag heap they are helping to create.

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  8. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Not a Critical Theory as you woke wanna be Libertarians like to parrot, but actual United States History.
    Trump is made at late night talk shows,
    https://tvline.com/news/donald-trump-late-night-tv-creeps-jimmy-kimmel-live-video-1235054352/

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  9. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Critical Theories are all you have, Jeff. Read “Traditional and Critical Theories” (1937) by Max Horkheimer of the Frankfurt School.
    Libertarians are heavy on the Traditional side.
    Jimmy Kimmel was high-larious as the straight man on Win Ben Stein’s Money and as a co host with Adam Carolla on The Man Show but his latest late night yucks are boring as hell.

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  10. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Here’s one of the folk responsible for Florida’s history standards
    https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190427952/william-allen-who-helped-write-floridas-new-history-standards-stands-by-cirricul
    In 1973 I spent 90 minutes in his apartment in Married Student housing (in Claremont) listening to him speak sitting in the chair next to him… he had his daughter on his knee… she’s now a professor at Harvard. Some of what he said about raising a child I used with my own son.

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  11. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Not a Critical Theory as you woke wanna be Libertarians like to parrot, but actual United States History.”
    Nice attempt at slander, Jeff.
    I doubt you could critically handle Zinn’s fake people’s histories. Not actually history but it serves the purposes of neo-Marxist analysis.

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  12. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    Nice attempt at slander, Jeff.
    I’m just glad that keyboard time time counts as cardio for him…..

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  13. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Former White House Aide Cassidy Hutchinson Says Trump Threw His Food ‘Once or Twice a Week’
    Slanderous!
    Gregory must be channeling Rudy G.
    LoL!

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    So, Jeff, you get your news tidbits from late night comedian’s interviews?
    LoL indeed.
    “Actual history” takes a different path.
    I’m not “channeling Rudy G”, while your problem is obvious.

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  15. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Sad, Gregory, Cassidy Hutchinson is an eye witness, or heard it from the Rotting Yam’s mouth.
    Another hilarious tidbit Gregory that you won’t hear on OANN is that Trump had a fear of being poisoned. That’s why he always liked the little glass bottles of ketchup for his fried food, because when his valet was preparing his meal he could hear the ‘pop’ when the bottle was opened.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Funny guy… not a fan of OANN.
    Sad is taking the word of a single person selling a book, chatting up Jimmy Kimmel.
    That isn’t “history”… at best it’s yellow journalism. Something you once aspired to, Jeff.

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    “…is that Trump had a fear of being poisoned. That’s why he always liked the little glass bottles of ketchup for his fried food.”
    I guess this is what passes for important information for the left. If Biden did this, we would hear endlessly about how great it is that he does this in order to stay safe.
    Meanwhile we slide into recession – gee, ain’t Bidenomics great?
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/stock-market-beatings-shall-continue-before-investors-see-relief-on-bond-yields-as-the-fed-wont-come-to-the-rescue/ar-AA1hKKyF

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gee Scott, isn’t 7 trillion dollars debt under Trump great!
    Never hard a peep from you about that.

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  19. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    I guess Scottie has never heard of a recession. He feels much better about everything if he can blame someone not of his political persuasion. Scottie believes that Biden, and I guess all presidents, are personally able to create jobs, control, inflation, create recessions, among other fantasies.
    The roaring economy created twice as many jobs as expected. Now interest rates might have to be increased.
    But wait, Scottie says all those new jobs were former Trump jobs that were created before the pandemic.
    So I guess that means that Trumpenomics is responsible, lol!

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  20. Scott O Avatar

    Lonesome Juanny – “He feels much better about everything if he can blame someone not of his political persuasion”
    My “political persuasion” does not want the fed govt to spend anywhere near what they are spending, so yes, we are not to blame.
    Even more hilarity:
    “The roaring economy created twice as many jobs as expected. Now interest rates might have to be increased.”
    The actual number of “revised” jobs is not that great at all – they’ll revise the number again just as they have all year long. Why are the student loan bailouts so necessary if our economy is roaring?
    The interest rates are going up because the govt flooded the economy with zero interest paper and now it has to be sopped back up. And it doesn’t help that the Dems are hell-bent on driving up the cost of energy.
    You lefties can run your mouths all you want, but the “modern monetary theory” has proven like all lefty economic theories to be a bunch of idiot BS.

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  21. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “He feels much better about everything if he can blame someone not of his political persuasion. Scottie believes that Biden, and I guess all presidents, are personally able to create jobs, control, inflation, create recessions, among other fantasies.”
    It does appear jeff has gone off the deep end.

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  22. Scott O Avatar

    Here’s a dose of reality for you Biden Butt-Lickers out there:
    https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/job-numbers-have-been-revised-down-for-seven-straight-months/
    “In fact, every report this year has been subsequently revised downward.
    So, why should we trust any of these numbers?”
    Because the lefty bobble heads eat this stuff up.
    “roaring economy” – what a joke.

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  23. fishanthrope Avatar
    fishanthrope

    It does appear jeff has gone off the deep end.
    Really? Just now……?

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  24. Individual Juan Avatar
    Individual Juan

    Scottie is going Menendez now? Got a bunch of gold bars in your basement have you?
    Maybe you missed Pablo’s post about Trump breaking the record for printing money during a single presidential term.
    But Hunter Biden’s laptop…

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  25. Scott O Avatar

    “Maybe you missed Pablo’s post about Trump breaking the record for printing money during a single presidential term”
    Juanny Baby is so slow he doesn’t even realize he just contradicted his last post.
    Maybe when he lays off the cheap stuff and gets his story straight he might make a little sense.
    “But Hunter Biden’s laptop…”
    I never said a thing about about that – how friggin drunk are you?

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