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Sandbox – 10nov22

10 November 2022

[People who debate whether the glass if half empty or half full miss the point. The glass is refillable. A verity cherished by the Right and missed by the Left. gjr]

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251 responses to “Sandbox – 10nov22”

Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

“ Biker Bill has potential but he runs for cover if confronted with a challenge. Oh well…”—
Emerytoad Licker.
Au contraire, Punchy Emery. While I do appreciate you seeing the potential and recognize the genius of BB and his Smooth Movements, Biker Bill does wish to confront you on any topic that is not under the proper thread, aka, ‘Election 2022 – America’s Voters Tested (updated 9nov22)’. The Sandbox is for other discussions of interest to the reader. Election results and commentary of said elections go in one place, your TDS goes in another. It’s my OCD flaring up again, my birder to bare.

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Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

We have now, since Biden took office, the lowest diesel reserves in 41 years. Please confront.

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Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

Former Bernie Press Secretary Accuses Biden of Using ‘Faulty’ Student-Loan Forgiveness Order for Votes
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/former-bernie-sanders-press-secretary-accuses-biden-of-using-faulty-student-loan-forgiveness-order-for-votes/?
The last sentence is a howler.
“In December 2021 she claimed in a series of tweets that Biden “absolutely does have the power to cancel all student debt by executive order. No congressional involvement required.”
What is it with the Dem’s complete inability to know the law, the Constitution…..and economics?
Meanwhile, Texas is sending another bus load of illegal alien lawbreakers to Philly. Serves PA right. Just deserts.

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Paul Emery

14 November 2022

Once again Biker Bill runs for cover citing technicalities proving my point.

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psfish

14 November 2022

Posted by: psul Emery | 14 November 2022 at 08:53 AM
Sad
Little
Man

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Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

Punch Emery.
Paul, Paul, Paul. Disciple is needed here, which is in short supply with me and with you. How could I in good consciouses on this gorgeous morning in God’s Country take up your challenger to hop in the ring with you after lecturing you to put your comments under the proper Dr. Rebane post. Election results go under elections, not Sandbox. Have some respect for our host.
I would be a hypocrite if I were to accept your challenge after telling you to do as I say, not as I do. The rules apply to me and you….unless you believe rules no not apply to you. A two-tier Justice system rationalized away because somebody did it too. Then one has to justify their actions under some guise of a ‘technicality’, in this case.
I choose to exercise some self discipline today. But, as a bone tossed your way, you were more surprised by the mid-terms than any person here.
BTW Paul, you would be happy to hear that the guy who sat in Pelosi’s chair with his feet up on her desk on Jan. 6 got four years. That dude took nothing, destroyed nothing, had no priors and did no damage. 4 years. That’s over twice the length murders serve in our Blue Cities. Imagine how much time I would have received for leaving a nice libturd on her desk.
A technically.

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Gregory

14 November 2022

Punchy keeps punching. Punchy is also a dumb palooka devoid of reason.
I’ll see him in town soon for a “talking to” about those recent defamations.

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Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

In our entertainment news today, a Broadway acclaimed mime got fired because he ‘was white.’ Probably why we haven’t heard from the Frisco Value mimes lately, now known as the Bay City Bombers. Or stink-asses. White people are the worse.

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Elon likes his money

14 November 2022

Scott O 7:34
You so conveniently forget that it is the senate who appoints the judges. Two more years to fill the seats with progressive thinkers. Sorry to put a crinkle in your dumb ass smile.

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Bill Tozer

14 November 2022

Haters going to hate.
————————
THE TIMES HAS SECOND THOUGHTS
“The day is coming–rather soon, I think–when the current mania for drugging adolescents and carving up their bodies will be viewed with horror as one of the great crimes of our century. The costs of the “trans” fad have already become evident, to the point where the New York Times wants to position itself somewhere in the middle.
The Times story is headlined: “They Paused Puberty, but Is There a Cost?” Good question! The subhed: “Puberty blockers can ease transgender youths’ anguish and buy time to weigh options. But concerns are growing about long-term physical effects and other consequences.”
Here is one paragraph from the long article:
In a 2020 paper, 31 psychologists, neuroscientists and hormone experts from around the world urged more study of the effects of blockers on the brain. “If the brain is expecting to receive those hormones at a certain time and doesn’t, what happens?” said Dr. Sheri Berenbaum, head of a gender research lab at Penn State, and one of the authors of the paper. “We don’t know.”
In one sense, puberty blockers are the least of it. We certainly do know what happens when doctors slice off a boy’s penis or scrape away a teenage girl’s breasts and mangle her genitals. Do we have any idea what the long-term psychological and physical consequences of these surgeries will be? I think so, actually.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/11/the-times-has-second-thoughts.php
Aren’t progressive ideas grand? Kill the baby up to the second of birth (CA new law, viable or not) and if they survive a botched abortion, then mutilate and deform the genitalia of the kids. Children don’t have a chance in Progressive Thinking Hell. Must be a self loathing thing. Definitely a mental disorder.
Haters going to hate.

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Scott O

14 November 2022

“You so conveniently forget that it is the senate who appoints the judges.”
Paul shows up with another lie.
Is that all you’re left with, Paul?
Lies?
Is that that all you have to offer?
What a pathetic figure you’ve reduced yourself to be. Is an honest debate too difficult for you?
Go on Paul – show us the proof you had before you wrote that lie that I had “forgotten” that judges could be nominated from the Senate.

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Scott O

14 November 2022

“nominated from the Senate.”
Meant to say “confirmed by the Senate”.

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Scott O

14 November 2022

BT 6:51 – You’ve left out the left’s desire that people should be able to have the state kill them because they don’t want to live anymore for whatever reason.
They call it “assisted suicide” but that’s mostly bull shit. Plenty of people that have the state kill them are perfectly capable of killing themselves, but instead have the tax payers pay a “doctor” to kill them.
Those aren’t doctors – they’re executioners.

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Scott O

14 November 2022

Hilarious – “The EU continues to serve as a model to the world on advancing sustainability with its many ambitious climate and environmental goals…”
Not plans, or systems, or accomplishments – just “goals”.
The reality is that Europe has it’s energy tits in a wringer. This is going to be a swell winter.
https://dnyuz.com/2022/11/14/f-gas-solutions-are-critical-to-achieving-our-biggest-environmental-goals/

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Scott O

14 November 2022

Glad to see Germany has that energy stuff all figured out – they gots their “goals”!
Reality has it’s goals.
Wanna guess who wins?
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germanys-Manufacturing-Slump-Deepens-As-Energy-Costs-Soar.html

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

Defund the Wa Compost
‘WashPost Touts Alleged UVA Shooter Cleaning Up Life Before Massacre’
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2022/11/14/washpost-touts-alleged-uva-shooter-cleaning-life-massacre
In reaction to the university shooting, Joe Biden called for banning assault weapons. That would have not saved the three murdered victim. The shooter used a hand gun.

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Paul Emery

15 November 2022

re: Scott O | 14 November 2022 at 08:52 PM
Never said that Scott. Check your source and apologize

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Punchy is demanding an apology.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

Paul – you are correct sir!
And I do apologize for for it twasn’t you, but a canny imposter.
Now – where oh where, is the apology from Paul for the lies he HAS told about me?
Not holding my breath.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

BT 5:19 – “In reaction to the university shooting, Joe Biden called for banning assault weapons.”
Of course. The Dem voters are too stupid to think about what actual weapon was used in the murders.
Never let a tragedy go to waste.
The only let down for the Dems is that the shooter wasn’t a Trumper.

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paul emery

15 November 2022

Specifically what “lies ” are you referring to Scott. Name a couple.

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Punch 831a
And faced with evidence of your “lies”, you imagine you would do … what?

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paul emery

15 November 2022

Who knows till I see then Gregory

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Gregory

15 November 2022

We all know what we’d see… a rationalization of your bad behavior.

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fish

15 November 2022

Finally some good news….the Republicans are going to raise the voting age to 28.
About time…..

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

Cryptocurrency billionaire broke the bank for Dems
https://nypost.com/2022/11/14/sam-bankman-fried-broke-crypto-bank-for-dems/

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paul emery

15 November 2022

All I’m asking for is a couple of examples. Why is that so difficult

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fish

15 November 2022

Posted by: psul emery | 15 November 2022 at 09:43 AM
Why is that so difficult?
Probably because there are so many it becomes impossible to just pick “a couple of examples”.
Why is this so difficult for you psul you were a member of the media (albeit a tiny, tiny member) for a number of years which means you were serving in the propaganda arm of the democrat party.
Just own it for once you f’ing weasel.

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paul emery

15 November 2022

Still can’t come up with specific examples fish?

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

Imposter Alert! Imposter Alert.
Punchy Emery always signs his name with a Capital ‘P’ and a Capital ‘E’. Whoever this “paul emery” is, he/she/don’t know is not Punchy. Besides, Punchy rather not talk about mistakes, judging from mere observation for years. Lying is such a non-inclusive term.
Imposter! Or maybe, just maybe, Psul Emery is getting old. And to think he wants to joist. I was going to recommend he uses his sweetie as a soaring partner, but someone out there would say I support domestic violence. I said sparing partner, not punching bag. Besides, she/he would probably be too rough on the rope a dope, with Punchy getting punch drunk waiting to wear him/her out.
Gregory called Psul on his invitation to confront in clear concise complete terms. Punchy was yet to accept the challenge Gregory so graciously proposed. Careful what you wish for, but in this case your wants are your needs.
Who is this paul emery of whom you speak?

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psfish

15 November 2022

Posted by: psul emery | 15 November 2022 at 10:02 AM
Ladies and gentlemen…..I give you lying, disingenuous weasel……psul Emery.
Give him a big hand…
Awww…..what the hell…..I’ll throw you a bone. That Green Libertarian nonsense…..that was clearly a lie.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

Yeah, I’ve called out Paul when he comes up with whoppers about me, but he just goes quiet for a while.
He is getting old – maybe has the problem Biden has where he just babbles on with complete nonsense. Could be Paul isn’t lying when he comes up with things that are “at variance with the truth” (hat tip to Tricky Dick). There are so many odd little scenarios that float around in his head and if he ignores reality long enough, he actually starts believing them.
Ah, well.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

BT 9:13 – A lot is already out on that story. And I think a lot more is to come. Let’s see how the Dems squeak out of this one.
We already know Paul’s take: “but Trump…”.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

And so it starts.
Remember – this is only a ‘test’.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/fed-banks-digital-dollar-test
Digital funny money gets rid of the problem of how to print all those paper bills when the hyper-inflation begins.

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fish

15 November 2022

Posted by: Scott O | 15 November 2022 at 11:49 AM
C’mon Scott…..they only have your best interest at heart.

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

Oh no.
‘Two Critical Companies Will Lay Off, Furlough Employees During Holiday Shopping Season’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/two-critical-companies-will-lay-off-furlough-employees-during-holiday-shopping-season
Critical Companies is right.
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Uh no.

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Paul Emery

15 November 2022

Well Scott you supported Trump when he claimed the 2020 election was stolen. You can’t dispute that.

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

And the guy who has all that traffic starting around mid-afternoon everyday at his drug den flop house is an unlicensed pharmacist.
Rantz: Seattle councilmember defends gang graffiti as ‘unsolicited creative expression’
https://mynorthwest.com/3710764/rantz-seattle-councilmember-defends-gang-graffiti-unsolicited-creative-expression-mosqueda/

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Punchy 1246p
You got a link for that?

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

6 Reasons It’s Always a Mistake to Think of Yourself as a Victim
https://www.culturcidal.com/p/6-reasons-its-always-a-mistake-to?

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Gregory

15 November 2022

” CON Proposition 1 is an extreme law that allows late-term abortions at taxpayer expense up to the moment of birth—even if the baby is healthy and the mother’s health is not threatened. Current California law already guarantees a woman’s right to choose, making this extreme and costly proposal unnecessary. ”
AGAIN:
“allows late-term abortions at taxpayer expense up to the moment of birth—even if the baby is healthy and the mother’s health is not threatened”
From the ballot info from the SoS orifice. Would have been blocked by a judge if it was false.
Just part of the scare tactics meant to drive scared young unmarried women steeped in Critical Gender Theory to voting Democratic. Again.

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fish

15 November 2022

Let’s play the psul game……

Awww…..what the hell…..I’ll throw you a bone. That Green Libertarian nonsense…..that was clearly a lie.

No refutation after four hours…..I guess that means I was right about it being a lie.

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Paul Emery

15 November 2022

All Scott has to say is no, I didn’t support Trumps contention that the election was stolen. I will then either put up or shut up. Scotts a big boy Gregory. He can speak for himself.

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Gregory

15 November 2022

You can speak for yourself but you don’t.
Your answer to my question is no, you don’t.

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Bill Tozer

15 November 2022

Haters gonna hate.
The View: DeSantis ‘Looked Like the Devil,’ Kari Lake Has Ugly Face
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2022/11/15/view-desantis-looked-devil-kari-lake-has-ugly-face
———————
Who’s Gonna Wear More Makeup?’: Ana Navarro Mocks Kari Lake’s Appearance
https://www.dailywire.com/news/whos-gonna-wear-more-makeup-ana-navarro-mocks-kari-lakes-appearance
Navarro hates normal women, especially fit women.

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Ben Emery

15 November 2022

Ignorance or Denial, I’m not sure which it is with the regulars on this blog.
I’ve had this conversation in person with some influential people in America. At one point, I had a folder/ paper written with academia in mind. When diagnosed and I walked away from my community positions, I got rid of a couple of decades of records and notes. One of those documents was shared with me when running against McClintock by a retired journalist that covered the Capitol for much of their career, water was their primary issue. It outlined how to set a trap and remove McClintock from CA politics. The key was having him address it in a public forum/ debate. When the CA Democrats brought in a candidate from Florida a few weeks of pulling papers and then left back to Florida within a few weeks of getting routed, it created a scenario where McClintock did not need to participate in any public forum/ debate in front of his “constituents”. I was assured this trap had to be in an official setting otherwise it would not work. McClintock is a coward no doubt about it and also a bully, which generally goes hand in hand. He failed to show up to a single forum/ debate over that entire campaign season. Would it have worked, if it were to have happened by early September, I think it would have made his reelection campaign very vulnerable from this no name, no money, and no party challenger. Instead, we had a recent Republican convert from Florida flown in to pretend he had progressive ideas. I spent most of the time correcting his mischaracterization of a progressive position on issues. The Democratic candidate support for CAFOs at the Plumas LWV debate is a perfect example. McClintock’s empty water glass just sat there pooling sweat from the untouched glass, which was a great metaphor for what type of elected official he is, a no show representative to his district.
Another document outlined dates, committee votes, floor votes, campaign donations to a public official and their political party, and how these hot button issues seem to fail depending on what D or R sat in power either of their chamber of government or as the executive of the government. Being a civil libertarian, social justice, peace, environmentalist, public/ open lands, and anti-corruption activist the groups I have participated in over the years run the political spectrum. I’ve dealt with both Republican and Democratic offices of elected officials dozens of times.
Through personal experiences and firsthand stories given to me from registered Democratic, Republican, Peace & Freedom, Green, Libertarian, Constitutional, etc. about the obstructions to our issues despite having overwhelming support when polled, a distinct pattern emerged. The pattern wasn’t surprising if we understand how our major parties function. What was surprising is when super majorities or veto proof legislatures failed to pass votes in committees when these same bills flew through the process in previous legislative sessions. In other words, when the real potential of becoming law through a Governor or President who was sympathetic to the cause or the party campaign rhetoric promotes such policies, the legislature could not allow the bill to make it through to the desk of the executive.
When laying all the information out in front a very clear picture is presented. The unelected unaccountable funders of the two major parties are the establishment that gives the marching orders to the leadership of those parties. The first time I noticed is when Ross Perot has been the last Presidential Candidate allowed on stage outside the two major parties. I voted for Perot solely on opposition against NAFTA and left the Democratic Party within Clinton’s first administration.
I have had multiple firsthand experiences with this happening and many others from people whom I trust. Where it first became crystal clear in California and Jerry Brown on several issues, primarily health care for all, fracking, and his water plan. Democrats could override any veto, so whatever the assembly and senate wanted to vote on was in their control. The way Brown handled it was to warn CC members and organizations to not bring those types of bills to his desk, they will not be signed and will have to be brought back up next session. At a CA Disclose Act meeting, I spoke with a former Democratic Party CC member who sat in on a meeting with Jerry Brown about Single Payer, which had passed twice before only to be vetoed. This former DPCC members wrote an Op Ed on what they were told in that meeting by Governor Brown. He was kicked out of his CC position and the Democratic Party altogether.
It was the Obama administration and the supermajorities in both US House and Senate they weren’t expecting. They were prepared for large majorities but not supermajorities. What this exposed was there is only one party when it comes to War. Obama continued and expanded Bush’s occupations/ drone bombing campaigns. There is only one party when it comes to energy. Obama extracted more fossil fuels than any other administration in US history while opening the Artic for deepwater drilling. There is only one party when it comes to civil liberties. Obama continued and expanded on the violations of our human and constitutional rights. There is only one party when it comes to gun control. Obama didn’t restrict gun laws and expanded carry laws onto trains and national parks.
“In his first month in office, Obama overturned a 20-year ban on loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges. Licensed gun owners from any state can now carry concealed, loaded weapons on federal land.
Ten months later, as part of an omnibus spending bill, Obama reversed a decade-long ban on transporting firearms by train. Amtrak travelers can now carry unloaded, locked weapons in their checked baggage.” – ABC News
There is only one party when it comes to finance/ economics. Obama appointed his Attorney General Eric Holder a Wall St. Lawyer who never lost his position at Covington & Burling (the darling law firm of Wall St executives) of Wall St despite being gone for 6 years. Covington & Burling held his position for him upon his return. If I remember correctly, it came with a $3 million annual salary plus other benefits. Holder redirected investigations into the actions of Wall St and banking institutions but also helped tamp down the scope of the Sanders/ Paul Audit of the Federal Reserve. The USDA, FDA, etc. all were headed up by industry representatives. Obama administration fully embrace “Free Trade Agreements” and was the biggest cheerleader for TPP.
Not only did Obama’s Attorney General not go after Wall St he gave final immunity for the war crimes within the Bush administration in 2012.
You guys spend day after day ripping the Democrats new assholes while defending your precious Republican’s actions, when in fact they playing their voters just as the Democrats do with their voter base.
I have no illusion my refusal to play their game makes my votes and activism fruitless but at the end of the day, I know my principles and convictions were not compromised. That in itself is a victory. Not having to defend Biden, Trump, Clinton, Obama, Bush, etc. is a great solace for me to be able to speak truth to power without being a total hypocrite, which you guys seem to have no problem with doing.
From what I can tell you guys are just as bad as party line Democrats in acting, speaking, and voting ala cart. One “principled” issue has massive conflicts with another “principled” issue but it “wins” the day and we’ll deal with the fallout later. Bad laws stacked atop previous bad laws don’t ever create a good law or policy.
Do you guys ever wonder why an unprecedented leak out of SCOTUS happened? Why after 50 years of stare decisis did SCOTUS reverse Roe v Wade?
There was going to be a Republican Tidal Wave in 2022, which would have put the Republican Party in the hot seat to follow through with their rhetoric.
2022 was going to be a rebuttal or revolt for the Pandemic Response, which I landed on the Republican point of view in the violations of our civil liberties by decree not “democratically” passed law. In a public emergency, we can accept decree’s but a two week to flatten the curve turned into months, mandates, and absolute power grab.
What the establishment learned during that first session after the 2008 Obama/ Democratic Blue Tidal Wave was super majorities and an active critical thinking electorate is hard to control. The closer to 50/50 US House and Senate the more disillusioned independents get, and the more rabid the two bases become, making the theft of US assets and siphoning of wealth into the unelected unaccountable establishment control, that much easier. That wealth is then kept offshore sinking our ability to maintain functional infrastructure without more debt is impossible.
Watching CBS coverage of the 2022 election night in a throwaway sentence, a woman said; “with large voter turnouts it is much harder to predict the outcomes”. BINGO!
A huge chunk of the American population has now been silenced once again. This time it isn’t about military actions but a different kind of war and shift of power. This time it is about Tech Industry growing tentacles much like the financial sector and inserting itself into every other industry. With this power they are now focusing on political influence. The ability to not only manipulate profits from customers in concentrated industries, but an even more sinister and disgusting form of oppression that will most definitely turn into tyranny. Transhumanist moving everything into a digital world instead of a physical world is the greatest threat homo sapiens have face in tens of thousands of years. Massive Centralization and State Super Capitalism is the goal.
I remember Steve Frisch using the terminology of Public/ Private Cooperation over and over again, and also remember opposing this ideology at every turn when it comes to the commons or public infrastructure.
Welcoming Remarks and Special Address | Davos | #WEF22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfW-cchpYA

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Ben, you didn’t have to do a thing to allow McClintock to skip any debate… you’re a lightweight and no one would fault him for not sharing a stage with you. In the end, you didn’t even beat the Democratic Party carpetbagger whose home folk (a free press rag in FL) referred to him as being D-Uranus.

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Scott O

15 November 2022

Paul – “All Scott has to say is no”
I don’t have to do shit.
This is just getting more amusing – I call Paul out for lying about me and he comes up with the dodge of making another statement about me. It doesn’t matter whether I “supported Trump” or not on the election issue – Paul’s lie about me stands.
I realize he won’t apologize and I don’t really care. But this response from him is telling.

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Scotto 509p
Well done, sir!

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Gregory

15 November 2022

Oh, and Ben… given a globe with the north being up and the south pole being down, where is the Artic that you spoke of?

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