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[I suppose the one-sided discussion of Trump’s purported lies and lying will continue (Biden’s lies are off limits).  Have any of the discussants considered what possible rewarding endpoints there are to such an ongoing debate that is now easily several years old?

In a 2024 Trump/Newsom contest, who would ever want to vote for a lying politician who has no other accomplishment besides always raising taxes and increasing regulations?  gjr]

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  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So the recession has started, and gas is 2 bucks more than when team creepy grampa joe tanked US oil and gas production in many ways, yet these idiots think the public is so stupid, they can spin it.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-economic-advisor-calls-4-30-gas-positive-news-cnn
    😉

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oooh! I wonder what it took to buy off Manchin?

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Kind of unbelievable George that you give Trump a pass to sit on his butt and watch TV of the riot for three hours and somehow blame it on Nancy Pelosi when he could’ve dealt with the situation at that time and did nothing Astounding that you would believe that. At least you could have held both of them responsible

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  4. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 27 July 2022 at 07:56 PM
    …..so much that you consider “unbelievable”, or “amazing”, or “astonishing”, or “incredible”, or “mind boggling”, or, or, or!!!
    Difficult to keep track of it all!
    No wonder you are so neurotic ….everything about life terrifies you.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘The lights are going out across Europe’
    The EU’s plan for mandatory gas rationing is utterly terrifying.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/27/the-lights-are-going-out-across-europe/

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  6. Scott O Avatar

    re fish 7:52 – Did you mean this:
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/heres-whats-deal-manchin-just-011917790.html
    Hundreds of billions more thrown on the inflation fire to “fight inflation”.
    People who can’t afford a new or used electric car get to hand money to the wealthier folks.
    Billions for big corps – nothing for small companies.
    Such a deal!
    Billions more for the ACA – that sounds pretty “green”.
    I notice Yahoo has this under ‘entertainment’ – not ‘finance’ or ‘politics’ or even ‘news’.
    Some one at Yahoo has a strange sense of humor.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 756pm – When you get familiar with the allocation of responsibility for the security of the Capitol, it’ll all clear up for you. In the meantime, that’s why the J6 court is having a tough time pinning anything on Trump.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Biden: “We’re not going to be in a recession”
    Well that didn’t last long…..
    RECESSION 2022 – GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Left are something else. They go out are redefine the definition of a woman. The redefine the definition of what is understood to be a vaccine. Now they redefine the definition of recession.
    No wonder Dr. Rebane was written so many posts in the past on the meaning of words.and those totalitarian governments who redefine/alter/bastardize language. Rather Orwellian, straight out of 1984. Silence is violence.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Is it just me, or how other noticed that Wicken Gretchen, Ministry of Propaganda Mary Poppins, and this FL Ag Commissioner all look like the same witch?
    Lawsuit Accuses Biden, FL Agriculture Commissioner Of Threatening Kid’s School Lunches Over Ideology
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/lawsuit-accuses-biden-fl-agriculture-commissioner-of-threatening-kids-school-lunches-over-ideology
    PS: I rather like the bold print.

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Either way George you can’t deny that Trump did nothing on Jan 6 to insure the safety or our elected Representatives but watch TV and tell the rioters that he loved them. Pence is the one who called in the National Guard not Trump.
    ““Not only did President Trump refuse to tell the mob to leave the Capitol, he placed no call to any element of the United States government to instruct that the Capitol be defended,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., during the panel’s wide-ranging Thursday night hearing on the event.“He did not call his secretary of defense on Jan. 6. He did not talk to his Attorney General. He did not talk to the Department of Homeland Security,” Cheney added. “President Trump gave no order to deploy the National Guard that day. And he made no effort to work with the Department of Justice to coordinate and deploy law enforcement assets.”
    The statements were backed up with testimony from Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, who said that Pence told Pentagon leaders to “get the Guard down here, put down this situation.”
    The Guard waited more than three hours for approval to respond to Capitol riots, official says
    The commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard said he was frustrated by Pentagon leaders’ response to the Capitol attack.
    In contrast, Milley said, Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Milley that military officials needed to “kill the narrative that the Vice President is making all the decisions” and worked against sending personnel to help with the escalating situation.
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2022/06/10/pence-not-trump-asked-guard-troops-to-help-defend-capitol-on-jan-6-panel-says/

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Meh!

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  13. Scott O Avatar

    Poor Paul – He was just so sure Trump would be in leg irons finally. All he has left is accusing Trump of not doing the same exact thing that Pelosi didn’t do. Exit question for Paul – when does Pelosi take the stand under oath?

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  14. Ralph Underglass Avatar
    Ralph Underglass

    Either way George you can’t deny that Trump did nothing on Jan 6…..
    I reject that premise. One can only hope that Psul Emery someday will learn from his mistakes. That day is not today. Go back to Emeryville, you stink-ass.

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  15. Scott O Avatar

    Oooooh, look!!
    The Dems are going to ‘fight’ inflation by spending 739 billion we don’t have.
    Heck – why not trillions? I mean if we’re gonna fight, lets go big!
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/whats-in-and-out-of-democrats-739-billion-inflation-fighting-package-01658980250?mod=home-page
    This vote-buying to stave off the inevitable before the mid terms will just dig the hole deeper.
    Ah, well.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Geoprge
    Can you show me where in the Rules of the House it assigns responsibility for maNgement of police to the Speaker of the House. I couldn’t find anything in my scan.
    https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/117-House-Rules-Clerk.pdf

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Rueful chuckle of the day….

    The Biden Administration is to China what San Francisco is to shoplifters.

    …… most corrupt President ever.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Geoprge
    Geoprge….?
    Imaginary friend?

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sure Scott-why not be like Trump and spend nearly 7 Trillion “we don’t have.

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  20. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 08:01 AM
    Or 8 Trillion like Obama……..

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    “I’ve Delivered”: New Disclosures Demolish President Biden’s Denials On Hunter Dealings
    But he’s a liar. He’s lied constantly since the morons in Delaware saddled the senate, not to mention the rest of the country with “The Pride of Scranton”!
    Every idiot knows that.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ive-delivered-new-disclosures-demolish-president-bidens-denials-hunter-dealings

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    One man’s opinion.
    Democrats are pressuring Merrick Garland to make an anti-Trump case he doesn’t have
    By Andrew C. McCarthy
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/democrats-are-pressuring-merrick-garland-to-make-an-anti-trump-case/
    It will impossible to prove Trump himself did anything criminal on Jan. 6, as Punch-E Emery unwittingly continues to point out day in, day out. Trump telling folks to peacefully protest on Jan 6 was why Impeachment #2 utterly failed.
    When you go to bed thinking about Trump and wake up thinking about Trump, and spend the hours in between thinking about Trump….you are not a free man. Punchy is imprisoned by that which he wishes to imprison. Caught in the very snare he set for Trump.
    Someday science may find a cure for TDS, a debilitating mental, emotional, and spiritual serious affliction. Watching my fellow little pilgrim’s progressive progress is heart breaking. The ties that bind Trump to Punchy’s melon are stronger that any steel chain or law of gravity. And the saddest part is Trump as never spent one nanosecond thinking about Punch Emery.
    H/T to Ralph Underglass. Lost in Emeryville again. Cue Jimmy Buffet. That you sow is what you reap. Plant radish seeds and you will never get squash.

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Aha. Great minds and all that stuff. 🙂
    6 terms Biden has redefined to further agenda, stigmatize opponents
    From “recession” to “disinformation,” the president and his team have weaponized language for political purposes.
    https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/orwellian-administration-6-terms-biden-has-redefined-further-agenda-attack

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ABC’s ‘The View’ apologizes for ‘defamatory statements’ after Turning Point USA threatens suit
    The View was forced to issue corrections and apologies following neo-Nazi statement on air
    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/turning-point-usa-threatens-legal-action-against-view-after-defamatory
    How many times have The View been forced to read legal disclaimers on the air for lying to their audience. It’s like 2-3 times a week now. Slurring minors (children) as Nazis is so disgusting….no, that not the word…is so displaceable….no, that is not the word either. Hmmm. The word I am looking for starts with a D. Democrat! Yes, slurring minors as Nazis is so discrediting to those who try to discredit. Clue Nick Sandmann.

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trumps debt increase 6.7 Trillion was over 4 years fish. Obama’s was 8.6 Trillion but that was over 8 years. Trump is far worse. I guess you don’t know how to read numbers. Remember Trump promised to eliminate national debt when he said :
    Direct quotes from Trump:
    On July 27, 2018, he told Sean Hannity of Fox News: “We have $21 trillion in debt. When this [the 2017 tax cut] really kicks in, we’ll start paying off that debt like it’s water.”
    Nine days later, he tweeted, “Because of Tariffs we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 trillion in debt that has been accumulated, much by the Obama Administration.”
    Instead of paying down debt he increased it by nearly 7 trillion. One of hundreds of Trumps lies.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    8:35 post was for fish

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What? No manslaughter charges? No attempted murder? It’s a nothing burger.
    ‘Man charged in connection with Jan. 6 assault on Officer Sicknick takes plea deal’
    “The duo were set to go to trial in October, and a motions hearing had been scheduled before U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan on Wednesday afternoon. Instead, Tanios pleaded guilty to a two-count superseding information that charged him with two misdemeanor counts: entering and remaining on restricted grounds and disorderly and disruptive conduct on restricted grounds.”
    “The charges carry a maximum of one year in prison, but Tanios’ guideline range is zero to six months in prison, meaning he might not do additional time, given the five months he has served already.”
    “Tanios, who was held in pretrial custody for five months, was released last August after an appeals court ruled his release would not present a danger to the public, citing the fact that he had “no past felony convictions, no ties to any extremist organizations, and no post-January 6 criminal behavior that would otherwise show him to pose a danger to the community.”
    The Washington medical examiner ruled that Sicknick died of natural causes the day after the Jan. 6 riot after having suffered two strokes……..

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  28. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 08:35 AM
    Trumps debt increase 6.7 Trillion was over 4 years fish. Obama’s was 8.6 Trillion but that was over 8 years. Trump is far worse.

    Going to the mat to defend a guy he didn’t vote for a second time…second time! Obama put up 8 Trillion Trump put up 7 trillion…the rate at which it was accrued is of little importance….you feel free to spin it any way you want.
    Anyway…..it looks like Shotgun Joe is going to get his chance to put up big numbers to take up the slack from Trumps single terms. So it’s all good!
    8:43 post was for psul

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  29. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 08:40 AM
    Also check this link for verification:

    Remember….you don’t do links.
    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

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  30. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 08:01 AM
    “Sure Scott-why not be like Trump and spend nearly 7 Trillion “we don’t have.”
    Why not do better rather than rationalize doing worse?

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Come on Punch Emeryville.
    Just stop pulling our legs and playing dumb. You are not fooling anybody. You honestly expect us to believe that this is the first time that you became aware that the Speaker of the House is in charge of the security of the Capitol Building?????? Come in, man.
    “Geoprge
    Can you show me where in the Rules of the House it assigns responsibility for maNgement of police to the Speaker of the House. I couldn’t find anything in my scan.
    https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/117-House-Rules-Clerk.pdf
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 07:56 AM”
    I must say I have never appreciated Psul Emery’s subtle humor until this fine morning.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Hey….Hank “Tippy” Johnson is back! And this time he’s not looking to tip over Guam.
    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/democrats-introduce-bill-scotus-term-limits

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    Trump fiddled while America burned Bill. Watched the riot on TV and expressed glee while our elected Representatives ran in terror. How can it get worse than that?
    “On the one year anniversary of the attack, former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham told CNN that Trump “gleefully” watched his supporters storm the Capitol.
    “All I know about that day was that he was in the dining room, gleefully watching on his TV as he often did, ‘look at all of the people fighting for me,’ hitting rewind, watching it again — that’s what I know,” Grisham told CNN’s “New Day.”
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-watching-tv-during-jan6-white-house-dining-room-video-2022-7

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Micheal K @ 8:53 am
    A friendly reminder. Punchy Emery told us Circle of Jerks here that he would not discuss Biden’s spending until Biden added 6 trillion to the red link like Trump did. “Then we will talk, Bill.”-Punch Emery.
    Those are the rules Psul set down….don’t think he is ready to talk about Biden’s deficit spending quite just yet. Punch is a man of his word. :).
    You have been informed. Enlightened? No. Informed? Yes.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Must be the theme of today: redefining words.
    THE RECESSION IS HERE. DOES IT MATTER?
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/07/the-recession-is-here-does-it-matter.php
    Money quote: “Liberals seem to think they can accomplish almost anything by redefining words, but in November the definition of a recession is going to be the last thing on the minds of voters who can’t afford to heat their homes, fill up their cars, or pay for groceries.”

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  36. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Guano, Batman!
    Nancy explains…..explains that she is has what Slow Joe has. Guess Manchin is the defectors President now.
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/07/nancy-pelosi-explains.php

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    More guano
    ‘Green Dreams, Inflationary Realities’
    We must find ways to combat climate change without incurring devastating inflation, greater class division, the immiseration of the middle class, and the destitution of the poor.
    https://quillette.com/2022/07/27/green-dreams-inflationary-realities/
    Stop drinking bottled water!

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Trump trashed the good economy Obama left him and Biden had to pick up the scraps. Then he had to deal with Trumps broken promise to pull out of Afghanistan and his failure at the border when he lied about Mexico building the wall as well as inheriting the massive debt he piled up and his sleazy dealings with Ukraine and Putin.
    Thais only a start but all I have time for now
    cheers

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  39. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 10:37 AM
    We’ve discussed your “Depth of the Change in the Guitar Case” econometric model.
    I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for a Nobel Prize.
    …..and thanks in advance for agreeing with me!

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  40. Scott O Avatar

    “Trump trashed the good economy…”
    Paul has one line and he keeps repeating it over and over with no proof. None. Zero. Nada. I’ve asked real politely twice and Paul just keeps repeating the same line.
    I guess repeating a lie somehow makes it true.
    I dunno.
    Anyway, if it keeps Paul from having to start using drugs to keep a smile on his face, it’s pretty harmless.

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    This just in. Direct quotes from Russian State TV which no doubt reflects the views of Putin. they are IDENTICAL to the opinions expressed by the RR regulars including our host. They even refer to Trump as “Our Trump”
    AS reported by Russian state TV host Evgeny Popov “The Department of Justice opened a criminal case against our own Donald Trump! They’re investigating Trump’s actions before the storming of the Capitol last January and his attempts to nullify the outcome of a fake, unfair, falsified U.S. presidential election.
    They’re trying to pull it off by the midterms in order to put Trump behind bars by November,” he charged. “Otherwise, the Democrats have no chance of winning. So the Democrats have decided to eliminate their biggest competitor — our Trump.”
    Popov then mocked President Joe Biden for suffering politically from the higher gas prices that surged in no small part thanks to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine earlier this year, and he said that Democrats don’t care about solving real problems, but only “about perverts, the sexual education of children and protections of the transgenders.”
    “They’re trying to pull it off by the midterms in order to put Trump behind bars by November,” he charged. “Otherwise, the Democrats have no chance of winning. So the Democrats have decided to eliminate their biggest competitor — our Trump.”
    https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1552689843607687169

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  42. Jose Peyote’s ACME Anvil Avatar
    Jose Peyote’s ACME Anvil

    Russian state TV host rages that DOJ might put ‘our Trump’ in prison for trying to steal election
    https://www.rawstory.com/russian-state-tv-trump-2657761738/
    Comrade Psul Emery:
    Comrade Popov is correct. “ Democrats don’t care about solving real problems, but only “about perverts, the sexual education of children and protections of the transgenders.”
    Without perverts, pedophiles, and the sexual education of first graders and groomers, there would be no Democrat Party.
    A blind squirrel finds a nut. Comrade Po

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  43. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psull Emery | 28 July 2022 at 10:51 AM
    psul Emery, as wide eyed and innocent as a child on Christmas morning!
    Well you go ahead and get back to us when they perp walk Trump…..

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    fish
    Who is psul Emery? Don’t know anybody with that name. It’s not me that’s for sure. I don’t have to use a fake name like you do.

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  45. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 11:21 AM
    Who is psul Emery?

    Again psul…..while in the midst of one of your many tantrums….you provided a list of names to which you would respond. “psul” was one of the names you said was acceptable. If your crappy and urgent typing style was what led to this state of affairs why don’t you just correct your list?
    Were you this way as a child?

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fish
    I’m asking you directly here. Are you a Russian Troll? You refuse to use your real name and your opinions are exactly those of Russian State TV host Evgeny Popov who refers to Trump as “OUR TRUMP”. RR’s, do any of you know this fish person directly?

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  47. Jose Koyote Avatar
    Jose Koyote

    ‘Russian state TV host rages that DOJ might put ‘our Trump’ in prison for trying to steal election’
    https://www.rawstory.com/russian-state-tv-trump-2657761738/
    Comrade Psul. Comrade Popov is correct.
    He said, “ Democrats don’t care about solving real problems, but only “about perverts, the sexual education of children and protections of the transgenders.”
    Without perverts, groomers, pedophiles, and trying to sexuality children K-3, there would be no Democrat Party. Comrade Psul, even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

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  48. Agent A424G16 Avatar
    Agent A424G16

    Posted by: psul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 11:33 AM
    Bwahahahahaha! Much like Frisch accusing me of being a paid provocateur a few years back (that was epic!) you’ve busted me psul!
    This is Agent A424G16 signing off!
    Q-anon told me say that….!
    END COMMUNICATION

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  49. Jose Koyote Avatar
    Jose Koyote

    Darn it psfish. Scabb picker. Do not open til Christmad. You ruint everything. Psul Emeryville Horror was out the door saying goodbye and you just had to reply and he slithered back in. Darn it psfish. I got a whole cleaning crew getting paid to go in a fumigate the whole place when Psul Emeryville Horror leaves, and now I got a bunch of workers sitting around getting paid with their thumbs up their butts like Psul Emery. Thanks for nothing, psfish.
    “Thais only a start but all I have time for now
    cheers
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 July 2022 at 10:37 AM”
    Me bad for believing Psul. However, I find you, psfish are more to blame.

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