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[I suppose the one-sided discussion of Trump’s purported lies and lying will continue (Biden’s lies are off limits).  Have any of the discussants considered what possible rewarding endpoints there are to such an ongoing debate that is now easily several years old?

In a 2024 Trump/Newsom contest, who would ever want to vote for a lying politician who has no other accomplishment besides always raising taxes and increasing regulations?  gjr]

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  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    J-6 stuff
    ‘Man who brought gun to Capitol on Jan. 6 gets 7 years in prison, judge rejects ‘terrorism’ penalties’
    Prosecutors asked that the judge enhance the sentence with penalties related to terrorism but the judge ultimately declined
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/man-who-brought-gun-capitol-jan-6-gets-7-years-prison-judge-rejects
    —————————-
    “The rioters at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were motivated by loyalty to then-President Trump, not attempting to stage an insurrection, according to a recently released Harvard study.”
    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/jan-6-rioters-were-driven-loyalty-trump-not-insurrection-harvard
    —————————-
    CNN Tried To Find People In Wyoming Who Like Liz Cheney. It Didn’t Go Well
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/01/cnn-tried-to-find-people-in-wyoming-who-like-liz-cheney-it-didnt-go-well/

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  2. Scott O Avatar

    Here’s a good chuckle and a clue to why the govt schools aren’t the best places for education:
    There’s a person on Facebook (not going to name him) who posts a lot of left-wing and pro Biden nonsense. But he loves to brag about how much he thinks he knows and how stupid conservatives are. He CLAIMS he studied botany in Georgia and is a teacher at a school in CA.
    He just posted a photo of 2 fried eggs with the caption: “According to the Supreme Court, we had chicken for breakfast”.
    He should have studied some basic biology and perhaps actually read the Supreme Court decision.
    He’s laughably wrong on 2 levels but that’s what passes for ‘intelligent’ in left wing circles.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The brit wokesters have turned the police into thought police where a joke can get you arrested –
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/01/manchester-police-chief-admits-force-wastes-its-time-investigating-people-being-offended/
    😉

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    When they know they are well and truly screwed –
    Harris earned the most support from respondents, with 16% of voters saying they prefer her if Biden decides not to run again. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders finished second with 11%, followed closely by Newsom, who earned 9%. A plurality of voters, 44%, preferred someone not listed among the choices on the poll.
    https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Harris-Newsom-top-choices-to-replace-Biden-17336242.php
    😉

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  5. Scott O Avatar

    on 6:48 – There’s a lot of Ytube stuff about how wack the Brits are. Here’s Harry Miller telling about how he tweeted that he was “assigned mammal at birth, but he identifies as fish” got him a visit from the police who told him he was on the “trajectory” to murder:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MjZVwJOeg
    I’m thinking he’s on a good trajectory for a great stand-up comedy career.
    Here’s a good update on Laurence Fox’s attempt at bringing sanity to GB:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MjZVwJOeg
    Fox was on a lot of Beeb, but no longer – he’s a lefty willing to stand up for freedom of speech and common sense.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    GREEN” IS UNSUSTAINABLE
    Last paragraphs:
    “As angry as normals will be when their lights don’t go on or they can’t heat their homes, they might be even more irate if they find that “environmentalists” have disabled their SUVs. And, by the way, where I live two-thirds of all vehicles sold are SUVs.
    On energy, as on a number of other issues, the Democratic Party is on a collision course with reality. Call me an optimist, but throughout human history when ideology meets
    reality, reality generally wins.”
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/08/green-is-unsustainable.php

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    And the reality Bill is that we are in the midst of global warming. To quote my favorits sci-fi “Men come and go but Earth abides” And to quote your favorite book;
    Genesis 6:13
    “And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “And the reality Bill is that we are in the midst of global warming.”
    Really Paul? Ya mean we aren’t in the last ice age?
    The earth has been warming for eons and the seas have been rising right along.
    Sleep through ALL of school, Paul?
    People used to walk from Asia to North America.
    Care to suggest otherwise?
    Have you got God’s promise what the level of the ocean is to be for ever and ever?
    What a stupid maroon.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Slip sliding away
    WILD: New Poll Shows Virtual Tie Between Parties As GOP Surges Among Hispanics
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/wild-new-poll-shows-virtual-tie-between-parties-as-gop-surges-among-hispanics
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    Yet Another Kamala Harris Staffer Is Leaving
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2022/07/31/yet-another-kamala-harris-staffer-is-leaving-n2611023
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    “It’s for the children” is bull shit
    TULSI GABBARD: PUBERTY BLOCKERS PROMOTED BY THE BIDEN ADMIN ARE ‘CHILD ABUSE’
    ‘This warning that the FDA issues is basically saying that puberty blockers can cause serious health risks for our kids’

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul @ 9:50 pm.
    I thought we are in the midst of Climate Change.
    ————
    Is it just me, or have others noticed those recent big solar flares have affected our communications? Solar flares big, then people complain about spotty service. Could be a coincidence.

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  11. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    NICE!!! Rumor has it that the “inflation reduction” act will raise taxes on those making as little as 10K/year.
    That might even hit psul right in the change laden guitar case.

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  12. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: psfish | 02 August 2022 at 06:51 AM
    WAIT….wait…..let me save you the effort.

    Who is this “Psul” of which you speak……my name is Guy Incognito…..err…..some other name…

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    As an old Mothers of Invention song went, “I am telling you my dear, it can’t happen here.”
    Who could imagine that they would freak out in Minnesota,
    (Mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi
    Mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi-mi)
    (Mama Minnesota, Mama Minnesota, Mama Minnesota,
    Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma Mama Minnesota,
    Mama Minnesota, Mama Minnesota,
    Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma Mama Minnesota)
    ‘LIVING HELL IN MINNEAPOLIS’
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/08/living-hell-in-minneapolis.php

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Inside Liz Cheney’s Coordinated Effort To Prevent Troop Deployment Before Jan. 6
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/02/inside-liz-cheneys-coordinated-effort-to-prevent-troop-deployment-before-jan-6/

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott writes:
    What a stupid maroon.
    You shouldn’t talk about God that way

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  16. Scott O Avatar

    re 8:06 – I see Paul Emery has decided he needs to start lying first thing in the morning. Gets it off his chest.
    Gotta love his “contributions” to George’s blog.
    Poll results we already know about.
    Shilling for his fav perv Joe Biden.
    Stating “facts” he refuses to provide evidence for.
    Bragging about how he limits his information selection to just ones he agrees with.
    And bald-faced lying.
    What a guy.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch-E 950p
    “And the reality Bill is that we are in the midst of global warming”
    That is a key premise of the ‘modern’ Democrats. It is politics, not science.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Paul
    Ah, back to Christian bashing. What’s next? Trump was mean to Arnold when Arnie took over running the Apprentice and the ratings slumped? Trump forced two Dem donors to drink fish tank cleaner? That was sooo outrageous that the police first investigated the wacky Dem wife for murder….intentionally giving lethal poison to her husband.
    Stay with the Christian bashing, it’s always a good go-to and your fans will cheer you on. Leave the Jews alone. You sound a bit frustrated. Perhaps a nice stroll to the old workplace might be in order.
    On the bright side, Scot O did call you Paul. See, you got the respect you think you deserve as a child of The Universe. I called you Paul (maybe for this one time) as well, and you get rather hostile.. Some people, I tell ya.
    Maybe we should have a vote. Who thinks Punch-E is a stupid moron?
    ———————
    fish….a couple of days ago somewhere.
    re: Gallop poll. It’s rather nuanced, but not at all hidden from the reader. Biden’s polls show he has the lowest numbers of any ELECTED President in the 6Th QUARTER of his first and only term. Worse ever!
    ‘Top Pollster: Biden’s Sixth-Quarter Approval Is The Lowest Of Any President Ever Polled’
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-pollster-bidens-sixth-quarter-approval-is-the-lowest-of-any-president-ever-polled
    Cue attacking Noah’s ark. They sure ridiculed Noah back in the day. Who names their kid Ham?
    ——————-
    Irony alert:
    ‘Kentucky Noah’s Ark sues insurance company over damage caused by heavy rains’
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-noahs-ark-encounter-sues-insurance-company-over-heavy-rain-damage/

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “What a maroon! What an ignoranimus!”
    -Bugs B.

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  20. Beep beep Avatar
    Beep beep

    My Rocky Mountain canary, my Rocky Mountain goat.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3tISeSpPgg

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Here’s solid research that supports the urgency of dealing with global warming:
    “UN climate report: It’s ‘now or never’ to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees:
    A new flagship UN report on climate change out Monday indicating that harmful carbon emissions from 2010-2019 have never been higher in human history, is proof that the world is on a “fast track” to disaster, António Guterres has warned, with scientists arguing that it’s ‘now or never’ to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees.”
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115452

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch 1100a
    That’s not research, that’s a UN pop-up book meant to scare the masses. Politics.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 02 August 2022 at 11:08 AM
    Solid research……because graph.

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  24. Scott O Avatar

    Oooooh – “the UN sez”
    Question for Paul – since the UN has been repeatedly wrong for decades why should we care what they say now?
    Here’s just one of many, many web sites that chronicle something you deny, Paul. The UN is high on the list of hysterical knee-slappers.
    https://nypost.com/2021/11/12/50-years-of-predictions-that-the-climate-apocalypse-is-nigh/
    Not to mention the high priest of climate alarmism Dr Mann who has been shown in court to be full of cow manure.

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    RR Readers, keep in mind that those opposing the urgency of global warming also support Trumps Big Lie that the elections were stolen therefore they have no credibility when it comes to evaluating the veracity of data. Sad but true.

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  26. Scott O Avatar

    re Paul 11:42 – By golly Paul! Boy, that’s some iron-clad solid thinking!
    We also think men can’t get pregnant and that 2+2=4, so we’d love to hear more about this fascinating new pretzel logic of yours.

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  27. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 August 2022 at 11:42 AM
    RR Readers, keep in mind that psul fancies himself a logician. Sad but true.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Well Scott, fish do you or do you not support Trumps contention that the election was stolen due to election fraud?

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy @ 11:00am
    Whether we’re are in the midst of a Global Warming Catastrophe or not, is not the question. My posts always point out the Globalists’ solutions are worse than the problems. In factamondo, the common sense person says renewable energy in its proposed form is not a solution at all. The remedies of green libertarians are obsolete and the physics tell us the Mean Green Machine in and of itself is both unattainable and unsustainable.
    Someday science will get us to the promised land. Go nuke. As Europe prepares to freeze their tushs off this winter (except the Davos crowd and favored government overlords), with Germany firing up its coal plants again, the latest solution is to confiscate farmland, ban fertilizers, cease raising cattle for human consumption thus ending cow flatulence. and let Bill Gates buy up all the farmland in America to raises chickens and produce crops with less yields as food insecurity rips Africa and impoverishing millions.
    Glad you sold one of your two vans and bought an EV. What did you do with the other van? Get cash for that clunker? Still using fossil fuels at home, at work, or at play?
    Show me an EV and I will show you all the parts made from petroleum products. While Europe prepares for severe and radical austerity (heat, fuel, and electricity) this winter, I just can’t wait for the Big Government Green Libertarians next grand idea.
    Trump was right. All this could have been avoided if Angie ‘the former East German soldier’ Merkel had listened to Trump. Buy American gas, liquid or natural gad. Got plenty to sell and America First and all. But no…..she made a pact with Putin.

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  30. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Here’s research, punch:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99033-1
    Direct from the manufacturers… physicists named Svensmark and Shaviv.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Psul Emery
    Who is this fish you speak off?
    Credibility? Can you say Russian Hoax? Spygate Hoax. 17 imtel agency hoax, including the US Coast Guard? Can you say Michael Cohen went to Prague hoax? Can you say Liz Cheney ‘Trump called WW1 vets stupid people’ hoax? Can you say ‘credible’? Perhaps credible is not a word to loss around lightly.…considering your track record which for some odd reason you would not talk about. Not even discuss. It’s like it’s been erased. Like magician turning a News Director into an ass. Magic.
    https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/07/memes5.jpeg?
    https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/07/IMG_0383.jpg?

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  32. Scott O Avatar

    Paul Emery is a wonder – you can ask him anything and he’ll magically turn it into a question for you!
    Your dodging of questions is beyond getting old, Paul – you’re just a stupid joke.
    Better still – (munching on a carrot) “what a maroon!”
    Best you get back to your climate porn web sites and hop in bed with your Greta Thunberg action figure and do whatever it is you do.
    Just please – we don’t wanna hear about it.

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Are you a support of Trump and do you support his contention that the election was stolen?

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  34. Scott O Avatar

    Gee Paul – I thought you wanted to alert us to the UN climate scare BS. What happened to that? Is the emergency over now? Boy – that was close. We must have dodged a bullet there.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Being green means taking food out of the mouths of babies….the babies that lived through
    abortions that is.

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    BT – speaking of “green” food:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/beyond-meats-cash-burn-is-putting-the-stock-at-risk-of-falling-to-0-warns-new-constructs-11659461866?mod=home-page
    Apparently the consumers have decided that Beyond Meat is actually ‘beyond edible’.

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And now the ignorant ignoranimi Dunce Corrupt Not-Trustworthy -Media are calling Gov DeSantis “charmless”. They really know how to hurt a guy. Too funny.
    ‘The View’ Invites Florida Governor Ron DeSantis On Their Show, His Team Destroys Them
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-view-invites-florida-governor-ron-desantis-on-their-show-his-team-destroys-them

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  38. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 02 August 2022 at 12:28 PM
    Your tactics resemble Joe McCarthy’s more every day.

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Before they hated America, they hated Christmas. Caution: You are about to enter the No Fun Zone.
    ‘Liberal Who Hates Christmas Realizes How Miserable The Left Has Become’
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/02/liberal-who-hates-christmas-realizes-how-miserable-the-left-has-become/

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Liberal Misery: How the Hateful Left Sucks Joy Out of Everything and Everyone”
    Sounds like a good read.

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  41. Scott O Avatar

    Kesti 12:53 – Hey now – McCarthy was correct. There were commies in the State Dept. McCarthy’s main problem was he pissed off Eisenhower. And a few others.
    But his central contention was on the money.
    Having Bobby K and Roy Cohn around did not help at all.
    Was he a bully? To a certain extent, he was. But far worse bullies are in govt right now and no one calls them out by name as they do with McCarthy.
    Adam Schiff is a first class lying-ass bully and chicken shit punk. George probably wouldn’t like it if I typed what I really think of him.
    Why say that someone is using McCarthy-ite tactics when people like Schiff have done worse – far worse?

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I should mention the paper I linked above is less than a year old… yes, dear friends, the link to climate by galactic cosmic rays is progressing, and Nature is a stellar journal.
    It won’t sway minds attuned to IPCC pop-up books, like Punchy’s, but the research will be there to point out to folks once the IPCC view has collapsed.

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  43. George Rebane Avatar

    ScottO 127pm – you are on the mark. The point has been made several times in these pages that McCarthy’s fundamental thesis of the presence of many anti-American communists in the ranks of government and the media was correct. Like Trump, his bedside manner needed a lot of improvement. This was confirmed by the many such critters subsequently ferreted out by the FBI, and the many more admissions made after membership on the ‘blacklist’ became a badge of honor. Since then, today if you’re not at least a neo-Marxist, you are then surely a rednecked, Trump-loving fascist.

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  44. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Scott O | 02 August 2022 at 01:27 PM
    I went with McCarthy because I “heard” his voice as I read Paul’s 12:28.

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  45. psfish Avatar
    psfish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 02 August 2022 at 11:42 AM
    …keep in mind that those opposing the urgency of global warming also support Trumps Big Lie that the elections were stolen therefore they have no credibility when it comes to evaluating the veracity of data.

    Previously stated…sad but true.

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The prolls are not having it anymore –
    Polling commissioned by the More in Common group — whose director Luke Tryl said the results should be “a wake-up call to our next Prime Minister” that “people want help now” — found that some almost nine-tenths of Britons believe the crisis will impact their day to day lives. Shockingly, around three-quarters believe there will be deaths this winter as people find themselves unable to afford their heating bills and succumb to the cold.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/02/majority-of-britons-expect-cost-of-living-crisis-end-energy-poverty-deaths-riots/
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/02/didnt-vote-for-this-majority-of-conservative-voters-want-net-zero-plan-halted/
    😉

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Did you actually read the UN assessment that I provided a link to? If you had you would have read this:
    “The UN chief added: “This is not fiction or exaggeration. It is what science tells us will result from our current energy policies. We are on a pathway to global warming of more than double the 1.5-degree (Celsius, or 2.7-degrees Fahreinheit) limit” that was agreed in Paris in 2015.
    Providing the scientific proof to back up that damning assessment, the IPCC report – written by hundreds of leading scientists and agreed by 195 countries – noted that greenhouse gas emissions generated by human activity, have increased since 2010 “across all major sectors globally”.
    That’s hundreds of scientists and agreed by 195 countries Gregory not just a couple of scientists that you endorse.
    Just like the Big Lie. there is no evidence to back up the contentions. That’s why those of you that agree with Trump are inclined to disregard the volumes of information that support the FACT that global warming and it’s consequences are real.
    Here’s the link again. Gove it a read.
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115452

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