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[I suppose the one-sided discussion of Trump’s purported lies and lying will continue (Biden’s lies are off limits).  Have any of the discussants considered what possible rewarding endpoints there are to such an ongoing debate that is now easily several years old?

In a 2024 Trump/Newsom contest, who would ever want to vote for a lying politician who has no other accomplishment besides always raising taxes and increasing regulations?  gjr]

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  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for the spelling correction Gregory,
    You write: An “immaculation” is a Limbaugh term dating from Jan ’09
    I don’t subscribe to the Limbaugh dictionary. “Immaculation” is not a real word, I was not a follower of Limbaugh like you were. Can you use real English and rephrase that statement and request of me?

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  2. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Trump, if he wins in Nov ’24, will be “immaculated” in Jan ’25, but you knew that already, Punch.
    No, not a Trumper and never a Limbaugh “follower”. I did listen on occasion.

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  3. Scott O Avatar

    Yeah Gregory – none of that Lewis Carroll or Johnathan Swift stuff. You must do exactly as Punchy demands or he will pout and not answer.
    As if he will ever answer anyway.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    You must have been a Limbaugh follower Gregory because that’s pretty obscure. You could have said Trump will take office Jan ’25 and we wouldn’t have wasted all this time.
    There are Republicans I could support but not Trump. Besides he’s not a Republican or a Conservative anyway. I thought you were referring to some kind of reckoning or moral cleansing which would have been more consistent with the original meaning of the word, which I already posted.
    I’m not worried about though. Neither Trump or Biden will be President in ’25. I sure am hoping Trumps runs though. He’ll either split the Party or lead to it’s demise. He is the biggest loser in modern history and I don’t see that changing.

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  5. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    And one more thing. Biden won’t be running. That’s for sure.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Biden won’t be running, thats for sure.
    He MUST be gone soon and way sooner than 5/23. Elder abuse on display. Cancer or Covid is the perfect excuse to save the Party. Poor fella.
    Bongino has a big heart.
    https://fb.watch/erGOTT3Dq8/

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Returning to an earlier topic. Have you at any time in the last 40 years not voted for a Republican for President?

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “And one more thing. Biden won’t be running. That’s for sure.”
    What’s the problem? He’s the same senile idiot you were proud to vote for last time.

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  9. Scott O Avatar

    WHO Boss Tedros Officially Declares Monkeypox a Global Emergency
    In the US the cases are 96% plus gay males.
    Now a grand total of 2 unfortunate children have it. Just how they got it is of course – not important.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/07/23/who-boss-tedros-officially-declares-monkeypox-global-emergency/
    Are they going to cancel in person voting again for the midterms?
    Cause – you know – after waiting in line for more than a few minutes a certain political faction just HAS to start having anal sex.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Scott if your guy Trump runs again he’ll still have the same ignorance and narcissistic personality disorder.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/donald-trump-narcissism-therapists
    I don’t agree about Biden being senile by the way

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  11. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – I don’t agree about Biden being senile by the way.
    OK – what the hell is his problem? He can’t even read off of a teleprompter?
    Are you saying he is lying all the time and it’s not his senility?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    He has always had a stuttering problem and that’s what you’re seeing. He does pretty good with it actually.
    Somehow you refuse to acknowledge Trumps lying so that disqualifies you from judging Biden. Remember his “promise to have Mexico build the wall for example?

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  13. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “…he’ll still have the same ignorance and narcissistic personality disorder.”
    Yeah – it was awful back then when there was no war in the Ukraine, no inflation to speak of, highest rate of unemployment of non-whites, America was energy independent, the economy was booming, Europe was getting their best advice in decades, fuel prices were way lower…
    Shall I go on?
    Oh wait – non-whites doing better than ever – yeah, that would be a problem for Paul.
    Well – now you have the POTUS you bragged you could hardly wait to vote for.
    He called a black govt official “my boy” and told blacks if they didn’t vote for him they weren’t black.
    I can see why Paul salivated at the chance to vote for an old white racist like that.

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – my 6:47?
    You got anything?
    Anything?

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  15. Scott O Avatar

    Hilarious – “He has always had a stuttering problem and that’s what you’re seeing.”
    He wasn’t stuttering when he said he had cancer.
    Have you seen the videos of him Paul?
    He gets lost in mid-sentence on an on-going basis and has no idea of what he’s talking about.
    Paul has now crossed the Rubicon.
    You can’t walk it back, Paul – you are now an official quisling of Biden.
    A toadying little fool bound to your folly.
    Paul – “Somehow you refuse to acknowledge Trumps lying so that disqualifies you from judging Biden.”
    Now you are openly lying, Paul.
    It’s on, folks Paul is in full retreat with tails a-flying.
    I’m “disqualified”?
    Oh, goodness – the heartbreak, the trauma – the bull shit.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Somehow you refuse to acknowledge Trumps lying so that disqualifies you from judging Biden. Remember his “promise to have Mexico build the wall for example?

    I think somebody mentioned “Calvinball” earlier.

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    fish – I’d like to comment, but I’ve been red-carded.
    Oh, the shame!

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Scott O | 23 July 2022 at 08:10 PM
    ???

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Noooo
    Italics…..

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Our political opponents are some crazy loons. Howling at the moon crazy.
    ‘Inside the Woke Meltdown at One Domestic Violence Organization’
    Women Against Abuse discouraged black domestic abuse victims from calling the police. Yes, you read that right.
    “Leftwing nonprofits across the country have undergone similar transformations. From the Sierra Club to the Guttmacher Institute to the American Civil Liberties Union, the Intercept’s Ryan Grim reported last month, progressive advocacy groups have “effectively ceased to function,” as their outward-facing missions fall prey to internal tumult.”
    https://freebeacon.com/culture/inside-the-woke-meltdown-at-one-domestic-violence-organization/
    Not the Clinton Global Initiative. Say it ain’t so.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “I don’t agree about Biden being senile by the way”
    Posted by: Psul Emery | 23 July 2022 at 07:14 PM
    Obviously not. Ever seen senile? Ever read your own posts? Whatever Biden has, you got it bad as well. Not worse, not better, but the same.
    Defending Biden, Punchy, is defending yourself. We all have our blind spots.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Scott
    Remember when Trump took over from Obama and we had a steady and growing economy? That was before Trump trashed it and left the wreckage for Biden. Biden also had to pick up the mess Trump left in Afghanistan which Trump PROMISED he would pull out of four years earlier.. Didn’t Trump promise he was going to pull us out? Another broken promise. And oh yeah exactly what would Trump have done to prevent his buddy Putin from invading Ukraine? He’s never even attempted to explain that.
    He says if Pence would have overturned the election these things would have happened and hese are direct quotes from your guy Trump:
    “We would have no inflation, inexpensive gasoline, be energy dominant, have no war or largescale death with Russia and Ukraine (this conflict never would have happened), would have left Afghanistan on same timetable, but with dignity and strength,” Trump said. “And would have kept Bagram Air Base, not had dead soldiers, taken out all American hostages, and would not have given the Taliban $85 billion worth of first-class military equipment.”
    I mean this guy’s a real nut case and you support him.
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-pence-refusing-overturn-election-led-russia-ukraine-war-1726976

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Try Crying About It’: Liberal Reporters Blocked From Florida GOP Summit
    “Protestations from reporters at liberal outlets also prompted DeSantis’ Press Secretary Christina Pushaw to note on social media that the “invite only” move was aimed at media who “shamelessly act like Democrat activists, then cry when they’re treated as such.”
    “It has come to my attention that some liberal media activists are mad because they aren’t allowed into the Sunshine Summit this weekend,” Pushaw said on Twitter. “My message to them is to try crying about it. Then go to kickboxing and have a margarita. And write the same hit piece you were gonna write anyway.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/try-crying-about-it-liberal-reporters-blocked-from-florida-gop-summit

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘Disney does it again: Gender neutral title replaces Fairy Godmothers at dress up salons’
    https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2022/07/21/disney-does-it-again-gender-neutral-title-replaces-fairy-godmothers-at-dress-up-salons-n484335
    Well, I can see the woke’s POV. Three offensive words rolled into one!
    1). Fairy
    2). God
    3). mothers.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ROFLMAO. Busted.
    ‘We have an open mind’: Flustered Fauci claims he is now open to COVID lab leak theory after emails revealed he dismissed the idea as a ‘shiny object that will go away’
    Fox News anchor Bret Baier grilled Dr. Anthony Fauci about his dismissals of the theory that COVID-19 was created in a lab in Wuhan and about his ties to that lab
    Fauci laughed at the idea and said he has always kept an ‘open mind’ about the virus’ origin despite his past insistences that COVID-19 was a natural occurrence
    Baier was skeptical of Fauci’s ‘open mind’ given that he appeared to ignore a 2020 email warning him that COVID may have been engineered in a lab
    He also grilled Fauci about an April 2020 email where he dismissed the lab leak claim as a ‘shiny object that will go away’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11041167/Fauci-squirms-hes-grilled-dismissed-COVID-lab-leak-theory-quickly.html
    Yep, that is as close to Fauci ever admitting he was wrong…again.

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  26. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “That was before Trump trashed it…”
    I’ve asked you before, Paul – exactly what did Trump do to ‘trash’ our economy?
    And Paul has no answer. He never has an answer. He just punches.
    The fact remains that Trump’s economy did better than Obama said was possible, so you can’t credit Obama. And the highest unemployment rate for non-whites.
    Again – this is what agitates old racists like Paul.
    And Paul says that Biden’s lies and word slurring and lost thoughts are because Biden stutters?
    Paul voted for a lying, senile old perv.
    Own it, Paul.

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  27. Scott O Avatar

    Biden – “All men and women are created by the …you know.. the thing”
    That isn’t stuttering – that’s senility.
    Or worse.

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Not just the “Thing” Scott…… but now cats 🐈 are in the White House.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2lTIh536jY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpk3i6UGkaY

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “Things go better with Coke”—The Grim Reaper, aka, Moscow Cocaine Mitch.
    ————————
    ‘Media Sugarcoat 79-Year-Old Biden’s Covid Test After Threatening School, Church, And Work Could Kill You’
    Now that Biden has Covid, those people who warned you to be in constant fear for your life are awkwardly trying to avoid eye contact.
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/22/media-sugarcoat-79-year-old-bidens-covid-test-after-threatening-school-church-and-work-could-kill-you/

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    A feel good story for Sunday morning.
    ‘A Transplant Miracle That Defied COVID Tyranny’
    Comply or die
    https://intellectualtakeout.org/2022/07/a-transplant-miracle-that-defied-covid-tyranny/

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    While I have lost interest in memes, they sure sure keep it concise and complete. Less typos and less words spilled on the ground. Less energy extended as well.
    Biden’s public deterioration.
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/89999-greg-price-2022-07-21
    ——-
    “I don’t give a (blankety blank) what Biden says.” -punch e.
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/90021-exactly-one-year-later-2022-07-22
    ————
    Gun control
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/90029-matt-walsh-2022-07-22
    ———-
    Tax the Rich
    https://img.patriotpost.us/01G8JX1AT43G7HB84BJKY4BVNN.jpeg?
    ———-
    Thomas Sowell, the real motivation of liberals
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/90020-thomas-sowell-2022-07-22

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  32. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    I see that Pres Biden missed his press conference yesterday. You know, the one in which he gave extensive congratulations to the 22-year-old Indiana mall CCW for preventing tens of other deaths by another brainless shooter.
    Why is it that Biden spends an inordinate amount of time commenting about the active shooters, when the active-shooters have no one to stop them? Why is he encouraging their BAD behavior by giving them free advertising?
    Doesn’t Joe have time to praise the young man who saved many lives – to encourage this type of GOOD behavior? Joe must be bizzy, bizzy, bizzy.

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  33. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Bill Tozer | 24 July 2022 at 09:26 AM
    Less vs Fewer
    Use “less” when referring to a quantity that is counted as in “fewer typos” and “fewer words.”
    Use “fewer” when referring to a quantity that is measured as in “less energy.”

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Proof is in the pudding Scott
    In April 2020, the U.S. economy lost an astonishing 20.5 million jobs and the unemployment rate rose to 14.7%.18 That’s after losing 881,000 jobs in March. U.S. retail sales plummeted by 12.66% in April 2020 from the month before (without adjusting for seasonal factors).19
    Obama faced the 2008-2009 recession. He used expansionary fiscal policy to combat it. He signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.20 This act created jobs in education and infrastructure, ending the recession in the third quarter of 2009.21
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-27/trump-vs-obama-who-really-did-better-on-the-economy

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  35. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Michael Kesti | 24 July 2022 at 09:46 AM
    OOPS! I got it backward!
    Correction:
    Less vs Fewer
    Use “fewer” when referring to a quantity that is counted as in “fewer typos” and “fewer words.”
    Use “less” when referring to a quantity that is measured as in “less energy.”

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    E Fox 9:36 – They REALLY don’t wanna talk about it. It completely screwed their narrative that a person with a handgun can’t take on a person with a long rifle and it demolishes their narrative about CCW folk just making the situation more dangerous.
    8 of 10 at 40 yrds! My hat is off to him for his bravery and his marksmanship.

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  37. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 9:47 – I asked Paul to tell us exactly what Trump supposedly did to ‘trash’ the economy and he again has no answer.
    Nothing.
    He just yells at the mirror.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The bottom is falling out
    Trump condemned by the conservative New York Post
    “It’s up to the Justice Department to decide if this is a crime. But as a matter of principle, as a matter of character, Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country’s chief executive again.”
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/trumps-jan-6-silence-renders-him-unworthy-for-2024-reelection/

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Another one:
    Opinion:
    How Trump violated his oath on Jan. 6 by doing nothing
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/21/jan-6-hearing-thursday-trump-inaction/

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  40. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punch 958p
    If elected again, the people of these mostly united states will have disagreed.

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  41. Michael Kesti Avatar
    Michael Kesti

    Paul Emery | 24 July 2022 at 09:58 AM
    “Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country’s chief executive again.”
    The New York Post is being presumptuous as the only way that Trump can be proven to be unworthy to again be POTUS is for him to run and be defeated.

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    Educational Moment (one mo tahm) – The easiest way to remember the difference between ‘less’ and ‘fewer’ is if you can count them it’s ‘fewer’, if not, it’s ‘less’.

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  43. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Kesti 946a
    Fewer smarts.

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Those are editorials expressing the opinions of Conservative newspapers. The New York Post endorsed Trump in 2020

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well thank you George and Michael. Give you all an E for effort. I am already Biden confused. After much time and much long suffering on part of the readers (and tongue biting restraint) with my English as a native tongue, I have found over time folks have taken to moi English and used it as their own. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Much obliged.
    Yesterday i could not spell English teacher. Today i r 1.

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 1113am – My sympathies are with you Mr Tozer, since English, with which I struggle, is my third language 😉

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh my. I am being taken to the woodshed now.
    ‘Stop Sharing Political Memes’
    They are a doorway into stupidity and misery.
    https://quillette.com/2022/07/23/stop-sharing-political-memes/
    What does he know anywho?

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  48. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – you can’t even count to two.
    That was one conservative newspaper.
    And that same newspaper would tell you if there were a Biden/Trump election today, they would vote for Trump.
    Biden has openly sold out our country to our enemies for cash to his family. He has encouraged an ongoing invasion of our border. He has falsly accused border agents of crimes and never apologized.
    I haven’t heard you or anyone else suggest what Trump could have done that would have prevented or stopped the riot that he hadn’t already done.
    He offered Nancy fed help and she refused. It was her command at the capitol building. Why didn’t she do something?
    The whole thing looks like a bunch of Monday Morning Quarterbacks with the assistance of hindsight and vastly more info than what Trump had to tell us that he could have stopped the mess.
    Until there is a proper investigation with all pertinent witnesses called and all sides heard from, I would say that Trump just decided that no matter what he did, the haters were just gonna hate.

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