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Sandbox – 11jul22

11 July 2022

[Apologies for letting the last sandbox get a little odoriferous. I wonder how many of our Ruminators are planning on setting up bond ladders for the continuing rough ride in the securities markets. gjr]

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426 responses to “Sandbox – 11jul22”

Scott O

22 July 2022

Paul 4:12 – Holder was not even charged, Paul.
The justice dept was run by Dems – Holder was a Dem. So – no charge.
Just like the Jim Crow days you Dems love so much. YT goes free and the darkies get hung.
Equal justice under the law has never been a priority for Dems and despots.
And Paul thinks it’s all peachy keen.
Nice to know.

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George Rebane

22 July 2022

PaulE, to find out BLM’s ideology, please read their website. You don’t have to parade your unfortunate lack of knowledge of what a major American political movement believes.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Scott well then we do agree that Bannon was convicted and Holder was not even charged let alone indicted.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Yes Paul – do you believe that represents equal justice under the law?

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

George
This is a definition of Black Lives Matters as it appears on their website, which you recommended I do. Can you tell me what is Marxist about this?
“#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.
We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.
We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.
We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.
The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.”
https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Hilarious – “”#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer.”
The problem here is that Trayvon wasn’t murdered.
He was seen on top of an Hispanic gentleman beating the other man’s head against the pavement. So the other guy decided he didn’t want to die and shot Trayvon.
BLM has made off with 10’s of millions of dollars they can’t account for.
Ask the Mafia to describe themselves and I’m pretty sure they’re not going to say “we’re a bunch of murderous thugs.”

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Gregory

22 July 2022

Punch, Cullors was the primary founder and the only one to walk away with 3 houses.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/we-want-to-talk-to-you-about-the-creators-house-in-california/
Her Marxist cred is spotless.
Oh, and the main difference between Bannon and Holder is the latter was Obama’s “wing man”.

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Dr. Rebane @ 4:49 pm
Bad advice. BLM has scrubbed their site, more than once. The destruction of the nuclear family is a top priority, just like Marx and the Commies across the world.
–https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPdrwl8pQQA
-Black Lives Matter quietly scrubs website of goal to ‘disrupt’ the ‘nuclear family’
The official BLM website had originally stated its goal of disrupting the ‘Western-prescribed nuclear family structure’
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/black-lives-matter-quietly-scrubs-website-of-goal-to-disrupt-the-nuclear-family/
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/09/black-lives-matter-website-scrubs-section-calling-for-destruction-of-nuclear-family/
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Bottom line:
Black Lives Matter removes page encouraging the ‘disruption’ of the ‘Western nuclear family’ during a massive cleanup of their national website
Black Lives Matter has updated their website, removing tabs from their about section dedicated to leadership and ‘What We Believe In’
BLM celebrates its positioning in the ‘global Black family,’ acknowledging that Black people across the world live different lives
‘We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages”,’ the org states
Villages refers to the African proverb ‘it takes a village,’ which works to uplift children by providing them support from their entire communities
Internet archives suggest that the website was updated on September 17
The deleted pages now reads: ‘Sorry, but the page you were trying to view does not exist’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759959/BLM-removes-page-mentions-disrupting-Western-nuclear-family-website.html
BLM quietly scrubs anti-American, Marxist language from it’s website
https://oklahomastate.forums.rivals.com/threads/blm-quietly-scrubs-anti-american-marxist-language-from-its-website.96821/

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Scott O

22 July 2022

I especially liked this bit: “We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.”
How many black lives were taken in the US last year by abortion?
How many by other black murderers?
How many by their own hand?
Now
How many by right-wing white boys?
How many by cops?
So – just who is this that is ‘targeting’ the black lives for demise?
It’s a bunch of racist BS to scam millions.
Nothing more.
Paul’s like: “They have a nice brochure.”

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

That’s it Bill????
Weak argument. No Marxism in this. Marxism is an economic system. Thought you knew that. Here’s a defination of Marxism:
“To define Marxism in simple terms, it’s a political and economic theory where a society has no classes. Every person within the society works for a common good, and class struggle is theoretically gone.”
Show me where BLM is trying to do this.
Read their defination of themselves again. I provided iit for your reading pleasure todayat 05:02 PM

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Yep, bad advice given to Punchy, Dr. Rebane. Unless you directed Perplexed Psul Emeryzoid to the site on purpose, you sly one. 🙂
-Support varies by demographic, but the findings are unanimous: The more we know, the less we like.
-The BLM organization is employing the well-known Soviet practice of purging history.
-The BLM organizations were never about affirming the foundational truth of equality for all Americans. They want wholesale submission to their devastating ideology.
“Also removed was the communist word “comrade,” put there on purpose as a wink to fellow Marxists and now removed so the rest of the country won’t catch on.”
“The BLM organizations were never about affirming the foundational truth of equality for all Americans. They want wholesale submission to their devastating ideology.”
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/the-soviets-black-lives-matter-purges-its-history
And to top it off, the 8 million dollar building in Canada just bought is the former Communist Party building, bought by funds funneled by Cullor’s Global BLM to her relative, ROFLMAO
Like all Leftist Utopian stories, it always ends up like Orwell’s Animal Farm. The pigs get drunk, the horses are sent off to the soap factory.

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Punch E Emerytoad @ 5:
Marxism is an economic system? It is also a political system as you rightly pointed out. No classes except the ruling class. Always the ruling class. The Committee with its five year plans.
Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Bill, George
Ruling class in Marxism-you mean like the richest 0.1% percent in this country making more money than the bottom 90%? They must be Marxist.
Those fake Conservatives are sneaky I must admit. Accuse BLM of being Marxist while at the same time the top 0.1% are ripping off the workers while making more money than 90% of the working class combined.
“Income Inequality
Income includes the revenue streams from wages, salaries, interest on a savings account, dividends from shares of stock, rent, and profits from selling something for more than you paid for it. Unlike wealth statistics, income figures do not include the value of homes, stock, or other possessions. Income inequality refers to the extent to which income is distributed in an uneven manner among a population.”
Go to this website then scroll down to Income Inequality
https://inequality.org/facts/income-inequality/

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Psul Emery Ant
It was the BLM co-founders who declared themselves proudly as trained Marxists, not me or George. Self identity stuff. The reach of the Weather Underground continues until this day. Well at least the lefties in Frisco could not stomach one more day of their DA who was raised by the Underground. So, their flame is flickering out. Those in charge of BLM have been the problem, not some white progressive lady in Nevada City who declares her support for BLM with her yard sign telling the world how progressive she is.
Rules for radicals….

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Really Bill-the Weather Underground is behind it all-You’re going back over 50 years for that one. You gotta be kidding
I suppose you’re a supporter of the 0.1%. You’re sure not talking against them. They are the true bandits of free enterprise and freedom.

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Paul: What do you call a cow that does not give milk?
A: A milk dud.
‘Democrats Announce Season 2 Of Jan. 6 Saga After This Week’s Finale Ended With A Dud’
We have far more evidence to share with the American people, and more to gather,’ said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney….(doing her best Adam Shiffy impression).
“The panel’s season finale focused on “187 minutes” wherein Trump allegedly remained apathetic to the turmoil interrupting a joint session of Congress. But not only is the “187 minutes” figure a contradictory message to the story of Trump viciously demanding to go to the Capitol immediately, it’s a made-up timeline conceived by Cheney in December when she ignored the president’s tweets urging demonstrators to remain peaceful and go home.
According to a Jan. 6 timeline by the New York Times, the first barriers of the Capitol building were breached at 2:13 p.m. The Washington Post timestamps the first break-in at 2:15 p.m. The president’s first tweet addressing the rioters was published at 2:38 p.m., meaning Trump pled for peace after just 23 minutes.
“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement,” Trump wrote. “They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
About 30 minutes later, Trump addressed the demonstrators again on the same platform.
“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!” the president wrote. “Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order — respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”
At 4:17 p.m., or two hours after the first barriers of the building were breached, the president tweeted out a video demanding rioters leave the Capitol — a video Twitter promptly removed.“
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/22/democrats-announce-season-2-of-jan-6-saga-after-this-weeks-finale-ended-with-a-dud/

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Paul – “I suppose you’re a supporter of the 0.1% They are the true bandits of free enterprise and freedom.”
Almost all of the very wealthy are pushing the Dems, Paul. And they got you to vote for them.
The wealthy use the useful idiots like you to get wealthier. Bezos, Soros, Gates, et al.
Shut down the pipeline? Gee – guess it will go by rail. Now, who owns the rail line – oh yeah – Warren Buffett.
Cut the small land lords off at the knees and they have to sell to – ta da – Blackrock!
Paul – you haven’t the slightest clue what the hell is going on.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

What is Trump doing Tweeting out a video? He’s got all the production facilities within a two minute walk to do a full blown media blast within 10 minutes.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

“Income inequality refers to the extent to which income is distributed in an uneven manner among a population.”
Of course it is.
Because the value of what some people do is is greater than what others do.
In a free market, the citizens decide with their wallets what they want and what they’re willing to pay.
Then the govt steps in and starts to remove choices, give money to favored chums and skew the tax laws towards favored outcomes. Almost every regulation the Dems have pushed have favored the bigger businesses over the smaller ones.
There has always been income inequality and there always will be. If you think some rich guy stole your money as you say, Paul – please tell us who and how.

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Psul Emery @ 7:20 pm
Not kidding in the least, Punch Eeeeemery. If you bothered to read some of my links above, you will find that the co-founders of BLM were heavily influence by and ardent supporters of Eric Mann
“Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview…
The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.
“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk.”
No worries Punchy. I stopped reading your comments…er…taking them with a pound of salt after you went on and on about 17 intelligence agencies agreeing that Trump is Putin’s puppet.
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New theory to kick around in my head. The most likely person to blackmail and has blackmailed Joe Biden as of today is Hunter, the smartest person Covid Joe has ever met.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Here is the Tweet Trump sent out at 2:24 which you clam was T/rump pleading for peace.
Trump tweets at 2:24,
“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
Hardly a call for peace
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/01/06/dc-protests-capitol-riot-trump-supporters-electoral-college-stolen-election/6568305002/
You should be embarrassed Bill’

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Oh look – the downtrodden and pathetic “little” people: As of 2/23/2021
“The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, largely seen as a driving force behind the Black Lives Matter Movement, took in just over $90 million last year, according to a financial snapshot obtained by AP.”
BLM has failed for years to properly file required paperwork to explain exactly where the money went.
“Leaders at the BLM foundation admited to AP that they have not been clear about the movement’s finances and governance over the years, but that they are now trying to be more open about its financial matters.”
No shit.
And notice how the ‘leaders’ all have big expensive homes?
What was that drivel from Paul about ‘income inequality’? Did all the people involved with BLM get to buy big expensive homes?
Paul, you are one huge clown.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Paul 7:58 – “Hardly a call for peace”
Hardly a call for violence. And all perfectly moral and legal.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Would love to hear Paul expound on this “income inequality” BS.
Paul gets to decide what everyone makes.
Right, Paul?

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Biker Bill and the Dead Pool

22 July 2022

Punchy, punchy, punchy.
I am soooo embarrassed. Tonight I will hide under my bed. What a wretched worm am I.
Ok, Punchy with the bleak and the mouth shaped like a foot, let’s try it again.
-The president’s first tweet addressing the rioters was published at 2:38 p.m., meaning Trump pled for peace after just 23 minutes.”
“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement,” Trump wrote. “They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
Hmm. Who said anything about 2 24 pm? Oh, you did. What, Trumps cents the USA Demands the Truth? Was it directed to the rioters? OMG, I am so embarrassed for you, little buddy.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Scott
That was at the same time the mob was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and our elected legislators including Mike Pence were scrambling to save their lives to get out of the chambers. Trump knew what was going on because he was watching on telivison. So to review Trump tweeted “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution…. while he was watching TV coverage that broadcasted Hang Mike Pence. If that’s not inciting a riot I don’t know what is.
Then at 4:17 Trump tweets again which included “We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it” So that’s three hours before Trump told the rioters to leave the Capital.
No doubt. Inciting a riot.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

Here’s the timeline link Bill. Scroll to 2:24. Trump by the way did not say leave the Capitol till 4:17. Thats three hours.

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

timeline link
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/01/06/dc-protests-capitol-riot-trump-supporters-electoral-college-stolen-election/6568305002/

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Scott 0 @ 8:12 pm
More precisely, Punchy gets to decide when how much is too much. Not the American dream stuff. And of course everyone should make at a minimum union wages with killer healthcare and bennies.
Hmmm. You are right! Psul gets to decided what everyone makes…especially the slackers like me. You make too much, you make too little. The Dem appointed commission will decide the amount. A trucker driver in Siberia makes more than a doctor in Moscow.
Old old joke, so adjust the dollars amounts to fit the times. Who know what corporate lawyers make nowadays. Anyway
A guy calls a plumber who fixes the plumbing problem in twenty minutes. “That will be 60 dollars,” says the plumber.
The homeowner shot back, “Sixty Dollars! I’m a corporate lawyer and I make $300 an hour and you want to charge me sixty dollars for twenty minutes work?”
The plumber replied, “Yep, when I was a corporate lawyer I only make three hundred dollars an hour as well.”

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Paul Emery

22 July 2022

So there’s no problem with you bill when ,01% make the same amount of money as 90% of the workers combined.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Paul – “Trump knew what was going on because he was watching on telivison.”
You were there, Paul? What did Trump see on the TV?
Who was saying Hang Pence? Did Trump say he saw them want to hang Pence and he told them to?
“Then at 4:17 Trump tweets again which included “We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it””
That’s his opinion – he’s allowed to say it.
You’ve lost, Paul. There is no evidence Trump planned or incited a riot.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Has anyone noticed there are absolutely no photos or videos of anyone at the capitol protests/riots looking at their phones to see what Trump tweeted?
Paul was in the room with Trump watching TV with him and he can tell you exactly what Trump on saw TV.
Amazing.

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Scott O

22 July 2022

So – will the ‘Insurrection Follies’ have a new season this fall? What were the Nielsen’s?
Will there be a new, new line-up on the panel of ‘America’s Got Talented Rioters’?
Will the Buffalo Horn Guy get his own spin-off?
Will Paul Pelosi have his own wife on Shark Tank?
Will Hunter be on the Shark Tank?
“I got this great new idea – they put me on the board in China and then the Big Guy sends them American crude from our emergency reserves and they resell at a profit.”

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

He swings and misses again. You are outta here, knucklehead. No joy in Mudville tonight.
Now, let’s count on our fingers, shall we? I ain’t too good at arithmetic, but my fingers say 2:15 to 4:15 is three hours. Just kidding. My fingers say 2:15 to 3:15 is one hour and 3:15 to 4:15 is another hour….By Jove, that’s two hours. Like making the V for Victory sign or peace out, put a flower in your hair.
NYT clocked the breech at 2:13 pm, Wa Compost said 2:15 pm.
At 4:17 p.m., or two hours after the first barriers of the building were breached, the president tweeted out a video demanding rioters leave the Capitol — a video Twitter promptly removed.
Yet the committee got the headlines it was looking for, with media blindly adopting the “187 minutes” across their front pages. CNN aired the chyron, “NOW: Jan. 6 Cmte Details 187 Minutes of Trump Inaction” for much of the hearing’s first half.
I didn’t even know the networks had TV cameras in the Capitol Dome on Jan 6. Anyone seen Colbert’s crew?

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Scott O

22 July 2022

Wow – 187 minutes of “inaction”.
Pretty sure the fed govt only allows for 180 minutes, so Trump was over due by 7 minutes.
Not sure about the actual chapter and verse on this, but Paul will know – hell he was right next to Trump and can swear on a pile of cow dung he saw it all including when Trump drove Limo One right over Pelosi’s foot.

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

My, my. Timing is perfect…or…or…racism and white privilege rears is ugly head again.
‘Sole BLM-backed federal candidate charged with wire fraud scheme involving campaign and party funds’
Karen Carter Peterson, a former Louisiana state senator and congressional candidate, is charged with diverting the funds for personal use.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blm-backed-candidate-charged-wire-fraud-scheme-campaign-party-funds

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

Top Democrat spends campaign cash at private golf club despite Ethics investigation
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/georgia-democrat-sanford-bishop-ethics-investigation-golf-club

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Bill Tozer

22 July 2022

H/T to fish this morning with the Babylon Bee satire. Life imitates art? Which came first. The Tucker or the Bee?
https://news.grabien.com/story-tucker-biden-getting-covid-no-more-sniffing-little-girls
Bummer dude. You lost the only joy you had left in life.

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Michael Kesti

23 July 2022

Paul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 08:41 PM
Why should that be a problem, Paul?

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Scott O

23 July 2022

Kesti 12:15 – Paul claims rich people stole from him. Look how much money Tiny Tim made! Poor Paul has to stand outside of the National with his guitar case open for spare change. It ain’t fair – it just ain’t fair!
Paul knows how much everyone should make.
Just ask him.

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Bill Tozer

23 July 2022

Wonder how much the guy in the Amtrak bar car makes for being a professional entertainer nowadays. He can sing too! Watch those dancing feet like Fred Astaire. He can dance, oh boy, can he ever. After the third drink, the music sounds better and will make even a old sour puss sing along…..keep those drink coming, bar tender. All is good in the Amtrak barf car

Scott O @ 7:53 am
Tiny Tim? You mean Twiggy’s husband? You got that straight. Probably made more money in that year that most people make in a lifetime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA
Talk about ‘that just ain’t fair.’ At least he died on stage doing what he loved doing. Still, it ain’t fair.

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Michael Kesti

23 July 2022

Scott O | 23 July 2022 at 07:53 AM
Bill Tozer | 23 July 2022 at 08:15 AM
I enjoy civil discussions far more than insults.

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Paul Emery

23 July 2022

Scott
Trump tweets “We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it””
You say: That’s his opinion – he’s allowed to say it.
Scott, what Trump said was not an opinion it was a lie and he knew it. Is’s not ok for a President to spread a lie.
What is the factual basis for Trumps statement?

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Michael Kesti

23 July 2022

Paul Emery | 23 July 2022 at 09:39 AM
You’re entitled to the opinion that “Is’s[sic] not ok for a President to spread a lie.”, but it is not a fact. Further, it’s not as if Trump is the only president to have spread lies. It appears to come with the territory.

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Scott O

23 July 2022

Hilarious – “Scott, what Trump said was not an opinion it was a lie and he knew it.”
And Paul has proof of this – he can read minds!
Tell us Paul – what is Trump thinking right now?

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George Rebane

23 July 2022

We must always remember that leftwingers like PaulE never recognize any Democrat lying, only Republicans do that. And everything that comes out of the mouth of a Republican, be it bombast, bravura, or opinion, that doesn’t turn out to be true is then immediately logged and publicized as a purposive lie. This type of response to political speech makes things so simple, especially for those who require such simplicity to make sense of it all.

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Paul Emery

23 July 2022

I certainly do George. That’s wehy I didn’t vote for Obama 2nd time or Hillary first time. Would you vote for Trump in ’24?

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George Rebane

23 July 2022

PaulE 1103am – Paul, we’re both getting older. But you’re younger; so don’t let your memory deficit overtake mine. Do you have any idea how many times you’ve asked and I have answered that question?

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whatabout

23 July 2022

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Scott O

23 July 2022

Biden told everyone a year ago if they were vaxxed they wouldn’t get covid or spread covid. How many believed that lie and ended up dying of covid after they were vaxxed? The least that Peppermint Patty could have done is correct him.
It’s hard to say what Biden says is a lie nowadays because of his stupidity and senility. He has been lying all his political career though so I guess that’s why Paul could hardly wait to vote for him.

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