426 responses to “Sandbox – 11jul22”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   22 July 2022

   Scott O @ 7:50 am
   Check this out. An e-mail received this morning. The grunt sandwiches have never though it through. The problem will not appear, not be a humongous headless Blue Pimple across our land. What to do with the Green Weiner waste? Millions of them, all with an end of life date. Stick up at “Jon’s” place? Yey!
   “Wyoming waste facilities brace for the disposal of toxic solar panels. Only a few facilities in the United States will take them due to the potential toxins in groundwater.
   Arsenic, selenium, and cadmium can all be found in the materials used to make the panels. Germanium, Indium, and tellurium also were identified as crucial to solar panel production in a June analysis by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.”
   7/22/22

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   Don Bessee

   22 July 2022

   Could the ponytail of ignorance point to the federal statute that covers dereliction of duty, last i checked that a part of the UCMJ??? The world wonders. LOL
   😉

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   Paul Emery

   22 July 2022

   Scott, Gregory
   First of all it was the Republicans choice to boycott the hearings not a directive by the Democrats. This boycott is something even Trump disagrees with and regrets. Trump quote”
   “Well, I think in retrospect, I think it would have been very smart to put [Republicans on the committee] and again, I wasn’t involved in it from a standpoint so I never looked at it too closely. But I think it would have been good if we had representation,” Trump told the outlet.
   https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gripes-mccarthy-wrong-to-boycott-jan-6-committee-2022-6

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   Bill Tozer

   22 July 2022

   Psul Emery, Punchy Emery, Punch Emeryhole.
   “Clumsy deflection from Bill to avoid the question as to whether Trump is guilty Dereliction of Duty”
   Not in the least. Non- deflection, but a legal parallel. Dereliction of Duty.
   And what is up, Paul Empotent, with you responding to my comment. That is why I addressed you specifically as the TurdEmery, Punchty Emptyry, or Psul. So that you could prove to all that you are not a liar. Come on man beat with the ugly stick, prove you are not a liar and do not respond to any name attached to the now trashed name of Emeryyyy the Bagage Carrier. You must have what Biden has: dementia. Psul Emery has big time dementia.
   Peace out bro, try washing your fro.

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5. 

   Michael Kesti

   22 July 2022

   Paul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 09:16 AM
   Well, so much, then, for incitement to riot, etc., but I congratulate you for attempting to name a crime, even though you have simply echoed Rep. Elaine Luria. The problem is that there is no federal law that prohibits dereliction of duty by civilians and, despite being commander in chief, the POTUS is a civilian.
   I wonder where we’ll next find the goalposts.

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6. 

   psfish

   22 July 2022

   Posted by: psul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 09:33 AM
   Clumsy deflection from Bill to avoid the question as to whether Trump is guilty Dereliction of Duty for watching TV for over three hours while the Capital was invaded and looted and he did nothing to stop it.
   
   Your morning funny! The most obvious and ham fisted poseur gracing these threads accusing others of being “clumsy”.
   Stay tuned for psul repeating one of his patented accusatory style “questions” in FOUR, THREE, TWO ……

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7. 

   Gregory

   22 July 2022

   Punch-E 948a
   It was Pelosi who ignored the House rules to allow this particular Kabuki to proceed. House GOP leaders had a right to choose their people in key spots and they were refused by Pelosi.
   The RINOs who came to play Pelosi’s game under Pelosi’s rules are awaiting loss in November.
   January 2023 will be interesting.

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8. 

   Gregory

   22 July 2022

   Kesti 958a
   IIRC, Pelosi is in charge of security on Capitol hill, and had refused Trump’s offer of National Guard troops.

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9. 

   Bill Tozer

   22 July 2022

   Trump gave order to ‘make sure’ Jan. 6 rally was ‘safe event,’ Pentagon memo shows
   https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-gave-explicit-order-about-jan-6-rally-make-sure-it-was-safe-event-dod

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Gregory
    For a self defined Libertarian you sure do sound like a Republican using screed such as RINO and never having one word of criticism of Trump. What a hoot. You are indeed a fake Libertarian if there ever was one.

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11. 

    Michael Kesti

    22 July 2022

    Paul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 10:33 AM
    This is SO sad. Despite multiple on-topic posts that you could discuss and/or refute you chose to post crap such as this.

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12. 

    Don Bessee

    22 July 2022

    Liz Chaney isn’t a rino oh great ponytail of ignorance? Botox nancy would not let the R’s have their own committee members who are lawyers be in a position to challenge and cross examine the approved narrative like Trump grabbed the wheel of the limo that they backed off of because the secret service said they would testify it never happened. Not even a good kgb show trial.
    But we all know in your fevered TDS shrunken brain you as in the rancid russian dressing fiasco will lap up any vomitus they can come up with.
    So what about your 17 intel agencies (there not 17 anyway) and hillarys bought and paid for pack of lies aka the russian dossier? You should have gotten the salve when it might have worked but too late now. Enjoy your creepy grampa joe recession.
    😉

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13. 

    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    MK 1047a
    That’s literally nothing new for Punch-E, which is why you were so out of line giving me a tongue-lashing recently.
    Punch can’t refute anything… all he ever does is punch.
    Punchy 1033a
    And you are a fake homo sapiens sapiens.

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14. 

    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Michael
    It’s just kinda sad to me that Gregory, who claims to be a Libertarian is instead reverting to clubhouse Republican slogans such as RINO as topics for discussion. No wonder the Libertarians can’t gain any ground having fake followers such as Gregory holding their torch.

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15. 

    Michael Kesti

    22 July 2022

    Paul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 11:14 AM
    The notion that a libertarian cannot understand and use the “slogan” RINO is beyond ludicrous. But do continue punching. It demonstrates that you are unable to support your views.

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16. 

    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    I followed your link Bill
    So Bill if Trump was informed in advance about the potential for violence at the Jan 6 rally at the Capitol and there was not adequate police security why did he encourage people to attend when he spoke earlier? Here’s what Trump said to the crowd:
    “And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
    “All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing … We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”
    “Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about … We will stop the steal.”
    “Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong.”
    He later encouraged them to march to the Capitol:
    “So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.
    The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
    So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
    Here’s the link you provided:
    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-gave-explicit-order-about-jan-6-rally-make-sure-it-was-safe-event-dod

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17. 

    Don Bessee

    22 July 2022

    Ya sure howdy boy let the scumbags do what the hell they want and no consequences and they wonder why the people are rising up demanding change –
    An attempted assault on Rep. Lee Zeldin, a Republican candidate for governor of New York, inflamed a fierce debate over the state’s public safety laws on Friday, hours after a man accused of charging the candidate with a pointed weapon was released without bail.
    Zeldin has long made public safety a centerpiece of his campaign against Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Democrat. But he and his allies argued on Friday that the incident viscerally drove home the need to increase policing and tighten New York’s bail laws to make it easier for judges to hold people charged with certain crimes.
    “Only in Kathy Hochul’s New York could a maniac violently attack a candidate for Governor and then be released without bail,” Nick Langworthy, the New York Republican Party chairman, wrote on Twitter. “This is what happens when you destroy the criminal justice system.”
    https://news.yahoo.com/gop-assails-n-y-bail-162842246.html
    😉

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18. 

    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    Paul – “…reverting to clubhouse Republican slogans such as RINO as topics for discussion.”
    First of all, RINO was not a ‘subject for discussion’ He merely pointed out that the 2 Rs on the committee were lap dogs for Pelosi.
    The makeup of who was on the committee was the topic.
    And the answer is Dems and 2 RINOs.
    And the Rep. “clubhouse” is where you find RINOs, Paul.
    Libertarians are exactly the kind of folks that came up with the term RINO. Many Libertarians were Rs and became disgusted with the cozy little club of Limousine Liberals and Country Club Republicans.

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19. 

    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Scott
    Gregory is perfectly capable of defending himself all though it may be embarrassing for such a defined Libertarian to become such a Trump hugger.

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20. 

    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    Paul – “So Bill if Trump was informed in advance about the potential for violence at the Jan 6 rally at the Capitol and there was not adequate police security why did he encourage people to attend when he spoke earlier? ”
    Paul’s a laugh a minute.
    How dare Trump let people protest in DC.
    It’s their right to, Paul.
    Trump was informed of the possibility of trouble and offered Nancy fed help. Nancy is in charge of security, not Trump. And she had the security she wanted.
    You see, Paul – this is why the hearings are a joke for the rubes like you to get in a lather over.
    Why not put Nancy on the stand and have her grilled by someone like Jim Jordan. Why did she refuse the security Trump offered? Why didn’t SHE call for the help Trump offered during the 3 hours in question?

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21. 

    Michael Kesti

    22 July 2022

    Paul Emery | 22 July 2022 at 11:40 AM
    You are again being ludicrous. One’s political philosophy in no way commits one to support or oppose specific individuals and “…never having one word of criticism of Trump.” in no way amounts to being a “Trump hugger.”
    And how can you be certain that Gregory has never criticized Trump?
    Making sense would serve you better than does this crap.

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    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    Yeah, plus one on Kesti’s 11:51 – Calling a sell-out Republican a RINO is hardly Trump-hugging.
    You can hate Trump’s guts and still call out RINO’s for what they are.
    And I’m not defending Gregory – I’m man-splaining to you, Paul.
    You post dishonest crap, Paul – so don’t get your undies in a bunch when we point it out.

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23. 

    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    Kesti 1151a
    Punch doesn’t make sense. He just punches.
    Punch-E 1140a
    As a self described fake Green Libertarian, that you would hang a label of fake libertarian on me is truly laughable.
    My libertarian bona fides can be recited… changed registration from DEM to LIB to vote for the Clark-Koch ticket in ’80 and have been registered LIB ever since. That I don’t join in the woeful laments indulged in by the TDS sufferers is not my problem.

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24. 

    Don Bessee

    22 July 2022

    Whats wrong with this picture –
    https://townhall.com/columnists/spencerbrown/2022/06/09/rolling-blackouts-are-coming-to-america-this-summer-and-joe-biden-is-totally-unpr-n2608426
    https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2022/07/21/china-boasts-no-power-cuts-during-heat-wave-thanks-coal/
    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/07/21/china-approves-458-million-coal-project-power-crisis/
    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/07/20/greenpeace-complains-china-approving-coal-plants/
    😉

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25. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    MK
    Gregory, Scott, Fish, and The Scenes have all voiced their vote in 2016, Gregory also in 2020.
    Interesting to note that women made up 65-70% of the crowds at Trump blow-the-roof-off rallies, as well as 25% + of the rally goers were Democrats.
    The Dem playbook, since they have diddly squat to offer has been to tar the Republicans with the broadbrush of Trump huggers. The tie in to Trump is only to attack the Republican Party wholesale and the individual conservatives in particular.
    Psul, the self proclaimed Green Libertarian who vowed to never vote for a major party again after Obama dashed his hopes and little to no changie. Another War Monger, just like Obama’s VP. Psul violates Libertarian principles every darn day.
    At least there are some classic Jeffersonian liberals around today, but none found in today’s Democrat Party. Gregory, in my uninformed opinion, is one of them.

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    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    toes 1216p
    Thank’ee kindly.
    It was a realization that there wasn’t a smidgen of Jefferson left in his Democratic-Republican party after Jimmy Carter’s abominable presidency that pushed me out to the LIBs.

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27. 

    Michael Kesti

    22 July 2022

    Gregory | 22 July 2022 at 12:04 PM
    Yes, and you’ve agreed with me that you are rude so spare me your high horse pomposity.

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28. 

    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    F’off, Kesti.

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29. 

    George Rebane

    22 July 2022

    PaulE 916am – No dereliction on Trump’s part, but plenty on Pelosi’s part. Congress is its own branch of government, and the Capitol has its own police force which could be prepared and reinforced by other LE departments and the National Guard if so requested by the Speaker. Pelosi did nothing to prepare for or react during 6 Jan. Yes, we can look back and blame Trump for not tweeting sooner to this supporters, but remember, these were private citizens exercising what they thought were their rights, and not part of the Executive Branch of government.

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    George
    Is it “part of your rights” to smash down the doors to the Capital. mace and beat up the police officers, threaten the livesa of the Vice President and elected representatives, and break in,trash and loot private offices?

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    George Rebane

    22 July 2022

    PaulE 206pm – No. But stay on topic Paul, that was neither your question nor my response.

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    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    Punch 206p
    What about the summer of riots in ’20 that saw arson committed against numerous Federal buildings, killed maybe 35 people and caused nearly 2B bucks of damage?
    Name the folks brought to court.
    Double standards…

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Fair enough G/eorge. So what you are referring to are the protesters who never entered the building or challenged the police. They peacefully stayed outside the building and came with no intent to cause harm. Is that what you refer to when you say “these were private citizens exercising what they thought were their rights”

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34. 

    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    the 1/6 rioters didn’t kill anyone
    they didn’t set fire to any building
    all they really did was delay the certification by about 4 hours.
    Now, in a sentence or two, please describe why they’ve been treated so much more harshly than the BLM Marxist rioters the summer before.

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    George Rebane

    22 July 2022

    PaulE 227pm – Nope, I’m referring to all of them inside and outside. They all had their own and different beliefs about what were their rights. Very few, if any, of those in the Capitol had any intention of causing anyone serious bodily harm, nevertheless their assaulting the police and being inside did break the law.
    Now I’ve really been waiting for almost two years for you to answer what Gregory again asks in his 249pm. Take three sentences if that’ll help.

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    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    re Paul 2:27 – Many also went inside with no intent to cause harm nor did they.
    It was only a small percentage that caused most all of the mayhem and harm.
    And where oh where is Ray Epps?
    The only person found on video for 2 days inciting people to enter the building.
    He was wanted by the FBI, but then for a reason not one person can explain he has been completely ignored by the same crew that have hunted down citizens from the far corners of the nation who did nothing more than trespass.
    The hearings are as much to cover what we are not to know as much as they are to besmirch Trump.

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37. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    ‘Man convicted of murdering retired police captain during St. Louis riots in 2020’
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/21/stephan-cannon-convicted-of-murdering-retired-police-captain-david-dorn-during-st-louis-riots-in-2020/

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38. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    I cannot find the post under Shithole CA or the lefties’ totalitarian Marxist tendencies, so I will put these in Sandbox for our LIB friends.
    California Tells Truckers Blockading Port Over Harsh Labor Law To ‘Comply’ And ‘Move Forward’
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-tells-truckers-blockading-port-over-harsh-labor-law-to-comply-and-move-forward
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    ‘California Targets Private Property With Latest Water Well Fees, Charges: Report’
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-targets-private-property-with-latest-water-well-fees-charges-report

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Gregory, George
    How about the fatalities that were the consequences of the event on Jan 9?.
    Show me evidence that the BLM protesters were Marxists Gregory. Most were peaceful-such as those in Nevada City and were not Marxists. If laws were broken they should be arrested and tried which many were throughout the Country.
    Here’s a definition of Marxists:
    “a supporter of the political and economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
    “some of the workers are Marxists”
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=marxists+meaning
    Here’s a definable of BLM:
    a movement founded in 2013 to end white supremacy and support Black communities
    Show me some evidence that it’s a “Marxist” movement that matches the definition of BLM.
    Definition:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Black%20Lives%20Matter

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40. 

    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    SP Jan 6

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Trump buddy headed for the slam:
    “Trump ex-adviser Bannon convicted of contempt of U.S. Congress”
    WASHINGTON, July 22 (Reuters) – Steve Bannon, a key associate of former President Donald Trump and an influential figure on the American right, was convicted on Friday of contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the committee probing last year’s attack on the U.S. Capitol, a verdict the panel called a “victory for the rule of law.”
    https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/prosecutors-set-urge-conviction-trump-ex-adviser-bannon-2022-07-22/

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    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    Paul – the people that founded the BLM were openly proud Marxists.
    Then – like all good Marxists they spent millions on themselves, and can’t explain what happened to millions of other dollars.
    “How about the fatalities that were the consequences of the event on Jan 9?.(6th)”
    How about them Paul?
    Are you telling us as of today you don’t even know?

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    Scott O

    22 July 2022

    “Trump ex-adviser Bannon convicted of contempt of U.S. Congress”
    Just exactly like Holder – right, Paul?
    https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/house-committee-votes-to-hold-obama-ag-in-contempt/

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44. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    Scott 0 @3:33 pm
    NPR keeps saying five or six people or seven people died on Jan 6. We have all been through the lists and causes, from Officer Brian Sicknick to the Metro Police office on patrol no closer than six blocks from the Capitol who committed suicide. Actually, two DC Metro officers offed themselves over a few days, neither one was at the Capitol not even got close enough to see the buildings from afar. All, with the exception of the suicide of the patrolman not even related to Jan 6, died of natural causes. Even Sicknick died of natural causes. But, pay that no never mind. It’s old news to those of us who are informed.
    Lol: ‘MSNBC Analyst Urges Charging Trump With ‘Manslaughter’ for Deaths on January 6’
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2022/07/21/msnbc-analyst-urges-charging-trump-manslaughter-deaths-january
    ROFLMAO
    S.E. Cupp LOSES IT Because Trump Hasn’t Been Indicted
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/aidan-moorehouse/2022/07/21/se-cupp-loses-it-because-trump-hasnt-been-indicted

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Scott
    You write “the people that founded the BLM were openly proud Marxists.”
    Can you provide a couple links to support your post?

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46. 

    Gregory

    22 July 2022

    BLM founder Patrisse Cullors “cites the activist and formerly incarcerated Weather Underground member Eric Mann, as her mentor during her early activist years at the Bus Riders Union of Los Angeles.[43] She draws on various ideological inspirations. One is black feminists such as Audre Lorde and her “Black, queer, feminist lens”,[41] as well as bell hooks : both “helped [her] understand [her] identity”.[11] She cites Angela Davis for her “political theories and reflections on anticapitalist movements around the world”, her work towards “a broader antiracist and antiwar movement”, and her fight against white supremacy in the United States. Frantz Fanon is another inspiration, his “work on colonial violence in Algeria and across the Third World [making] timely connections” for the understanding of the context in which Black people live across the world.[41] She also cites Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Mao Zedong, as “provid[ing] a new understanding around what our economies could look like”.[11][44]
    Asked whether she believed in violence as a method of protest, she has said that she believes in “direct action, but nonviolent direct action”, and that this was also the belief of the Black Lives Matter movement.[35]
    In February 2020, she co-endorsed Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries.[45]”

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47. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’
    Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.
    Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.
    “The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.
    “We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.
    While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.
    She described to Democracy Now! how she became a trained organizer with the Labor/Community Strategy Center, which she called her “first political home” under the mentorship of Mann, its director, Breitbart reported.
    The center, which describes its philosophy as “an urban experiment,” uses grassroots organization to “focus on Black and Latino communities with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, pro-communist resistance to the US empire,” according to the outlet.
    It also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US Communist Party, “especially Black communists,” as well as its support for “the great work of the Black Panther Party, the American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s,” Breitbart reported.
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/
    BLM site removes page on ‘nuclear family structure’ amid NFL vet’s criticism
    https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Patrisse Cullors was not THE founder by any means. You need a history lesson. Here’s a link as to the origins of BLM.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Black-Lives-Matter

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    Paul Emery

    22 July 2022

    Holder was never convicted of Contempt Scott. Bannon was. Innocent till proven guilty right?

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50. 

    Bill Tozer

    22 July 2022

    Visual aides! BLM went full blown Marxist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7C6tNjiRKY
    Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Describes Herself as ‘Trained Marxist’
    https://gvwire.com/2020/07/06/black-lives-matter-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/
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