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Sandbox – 28feb22

[A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in our country.  Well, there's a very simple answer.  Nobody bothered to check the oil.  We just didn't know we were getting low.  The reason for that is purely geographical.  Our OIL is located in: ALASKA, California, Coastal Florida, Coastal Louisiana, Coastal Alabama, Coastal Mississippi, Coastal Texas, North Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Texas.  But our dipstick is located in the White House! (H/T to correspondent)]

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  1. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Gregory | 03 March 2022 at 11:12 PM
    Just a note, I never post here or on The Union under anything other than my real name. I also don’t dance on graves.
    When I want to tell you guys you are a bunch of reactionary, racist, useful idiots I will come here and say so directly.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don
    Oh no. Are we in the future going to fight Iran or just accept them and their nukes?
    Biden on verge of making worst deal ever with Iran
    https://nypost.com/2022/03/04/biden-on-verge-of-making-worst-deal-ever-with-iran/

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  3. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    And that is why I like you Steve. Honest debater. I may not agree with you at times, but there is never a doubt as to where you truly stand or as to your opinion.

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  4. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Well thanks Barry, I consider you and Greg only “marginally rational” every day 🙂
    But yeah, I do not hide. Plus, If I were a grave dancer do you think I would have missed the dearly departed Russ? I may disagree with almost everything said here but I never hold that kind of ill will.

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  5. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Marginally rational. Lol. That was a good one.

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Barry
    I’m wondering if you are considering running for clerk-recorder this time around. You actually waged a good campaign in 2010-oh so many years ago. I recall interviewing you for KVMR.

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  7. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Barry. I’m wondering if you are considering running for clerk-recorder this time around. ”
    Anybody would be better than the marginally-rational chick. Dunno how you find a decent manager rather than an activist in this day and age. My hind-brain tells me it’s a department famous for angry women so it’s not a trivial task to run, especially given the limitations inherent in a .gov union shop.
    Maybe the right answer is to select a person based on a lottery.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    When I want to tell you guys you are a bunch of reactionary, racist, useful idiots I will come here and say so directly.
    For the record Steve absolved the board, excluding George (too familiar and comfortable a rhetorical weapon to abandon in all cases apparently!) of charges of racism about five years ago!
    Carry on.
    PS: Beobachter…..

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    DUD
    Plans for truckers and other far-right activists to drive vehicles to the Capital Beltway today appear to be indefinitely on hold, with organizers issuing a last-minute invitation for supporters to gather at the Hagerstown Speedway 80 miles outside of Washington DC for an “all day” rally.
    https://www.rawstory.com/trucker-convoy-2656849505/

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  10. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Nope. Taking my last few classes before I write my dissertation and finish my PhD. The trial got me a little off course.

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  11. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Barry 205pm – good to hear of your progress Barry. Since your pursuit is a PhD, pray, in what direction will your dissertation expand the shoreline of human knowledge which that degree certifies in our society?

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  12. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Still narrowing the the scope. Writing on totalitarianism in the 20th century.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Barry 223pm – Great, and be sure to include the latest edition of Rummel’s ‘Death by Government’ – all versions of the book are a bit pricey, but no understanding of 20th century totalitarianisms would be complete without this established classic.

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  14. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Right now I am ready Bernays and Gustav LeBon. I will keep that in my list.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Joe Biden was a truck driving man
    https://www.wral.com/fact-check-biden-says-he-used-to-drive-a-tractor-trailer/20026445/

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The View Cheers as Extremist Guest Declares Constitution Is ‘Trash’
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2022/03/04/view-cheers-extremist-guest-declares-constitution-trash
    Now, thats one dude that actually looks like a biological woman.

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BarryP: “Writing on totalitarianism in the 20th century.”
    I guess that everything boils down to Hitler in the final analysis. In the 30th Century, they’ll remember him, Elvis, and the guy who invented Super Soakers.
    Now that you asked, and having spent thirty seconds thinking about it, I’d be interested in comparisons of modern totalitarianism to earlier police states. Comparing it in mechanism or belief system to modern (small ‘l’) liberal values seems overdone, plus all that modern men-are-created-equal stuff is practically unknown in human history (and may be temporary). I give extra bonus points to sticking to the facts on the ground and avoiding self-referential poli sci word salad.
    Now…how a Stalin is different than Elizabeth I (Beria vs. Walsingham?) would be a good one.
    But enough about my own reading prejudices.

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  18. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “The View Cheers as Extremist Guest Declares Constitution Is ‘Trash’”
    Good Lord, what kind of TV show is that? Is it on every day on some network?
    If that sort of thing is popular, we need to seriously start thinking about a redoubt somewhere.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gosh scenes do you have a link to that video so we can examine the theatrics to verify the intent like you required when it was brought up that Trump called Putin a genius.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    re scenes 353pm – when it came to totalitarian killers and killing, Hitler was definitely a third-rate piker. No one can even come to same order of magnitude as Chairman Mao. The hundreds of millions he killed, no one in the media dares tally and report, nor will such ‘research’ be tolerated in our academe – it’s racist.

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  21. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    BT 3:35 – That would be Elie Mystal. A favorite with CNN and other left wing outlets. He’s their token clown to show that even people with no intelligence are properly represented on television. The man would be lucky to get a job as a janitor in any other country on earth.

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  22. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    George 4:29 – “…Hitler was definitely a third-rate piker.”
    Well – that’s true, but I think scene’s point remains valid.
    ‘What will people remember’.
    And that’s all that matters.
    Mao has way better PR.
    Ask the average person what happened to Trayvon Martin and the answer will probably be 180 degrees from the truth. We are just past the 10 year mark of one of the most covered events in our nation’s recent history and already I’m seeing a complete re-write of what actually happened.
    Trayvon was the racist aggressor who went out looking for (and found) and attacked a man of color.
    That is the truth of the matter as brought in court by both the prosecution and defense witnesses.
    That is not what the average person will be told now and in the years to come.

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  23. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    I’ll bet you didn’t know that in Texas pregnant women are being hunted down. Yep – it’s true!
    “First Texas Came for Pregnant People…”
    Ah, yes – excuse me: “pregnant people”
    They’re ‘coming’ for them.
    Gunna round em up like cattle and put em in box cars.
    Just EXACTLY like the Jews in Europe.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/texas-trans-kids-abortion/
    Just in case anyone thought this Mystal clown even has one tiptoe on the edge of reality.

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  24. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Paul 2:04 – “…to gather at the Hagerstown Speedway 80 miles outside of Washington DC for an “all day” rally.”
    Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!!
    BE THERE!!!

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  25. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    GeorgeR@4:29PM
    Totalitarian regimes are a funny thing. They used to just be called ‘regimes’. There’s always a certain amount of state violence and top-down control, maybe it’s just a matter of scale.
    In my own dumb way, I was thinking about PhD writin’s, especially in the softer subjects. Would it even be possible to avoid writing ‘Anti-Black Racism in the Soviet State, Another Methodology for White Supremacy’ and get it by an advisor?
    If forced to write such thing, having a distinctly non-academic bent, I would shoot for something that made a good book. Luttwak’s ‘The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire’ is actually his thesis but also made a cracking good read as they say. (somebody must say it). Not that books are automatically grokable by the reader of course. For sure I would be defeated by one I just ran into, Kursk: The Battle of Prokhorovka, at 1700(!) pages of dense prose even if written in non made-up English.
    Speaking of which:
    paul: ” Gosh scenes do you have a link to that video so we can examine the theatrics to verify the intent like you required when it was brought up that Trump called Putin a genius. ”
    English MF’er! Do you speak it!?
    (Pulp Fiction is a decadent movie, but has it’s moments).
    ps. Seriously, taking Luttwak’s concept/book of ‘Coup d’État: A Practical Handbook’ and cooking up ‘Dictatorship: A Practical Handbook’ on the shared structure of successful dictatorships would be a good idea.

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  26. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    scenes 6:15 – “‘Dictatorship: A Practical Handbook’ on the shared structure of successful dictatorships would be a good idea.”
    Machiavelli’s ‘The Prince’ combined with updated material from Saul Alinski and BLM (Buying Larger Mansions) would be the crux of the biscuit.
    Sorry – I just have to go with the classics.
    Were any of them ever jailed? Even Alinsky ended up living in Carmel. CARMEL!
    One of the cushiest, whitest, leftiest little enclaves of the world.

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  27. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    apropos of nothing, I was considering this paragraph from an article about Waste Management in THeuNION.
    “A valuable tool to help compliance are “smart” trucks that can automatically pick up organic waste bins at curbside and audit contaminants (items not properly sorted) by using a videocamera that records the bin contents as the truck dumps contents into the truck’s hopper, which limits contaminants.”
    Naturally, it’s for the children.
    But you know darned well that one big point in favor of spying on your garbage is the ability to resell that information. In the Surveillance Economy, you’re the product. Of course, there’s probably some law enforcement potential here, people being criminals and all, but it sounds like solid gold info for marketing. Next thing you know they’ll add a blade to open up garbage bags and expose all of your fine trash to the Eye in the Bin.
    Just imagine the opportunities in ‘smart’ toilets. Sold to the public under the figleaf of healthcare, but lots of potential for marketeers and others.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    cashless society in the here and now
    https://fb.watch/bzSDqIZKup/

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  29. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @647 So how are they going to see through the plastic garbage bag liners? Garbage nazis whoda thunk. LOL
    😉

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don
    More details from Amateur Hour
    ‘Russia and Iran Taunt Biden in Humiliating Revival of Nuclear Deal’
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/russia-and-iran-taunt-biden-in-humiliating-revival-of-nuclear-deal/
    The devil is really in the details.

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  31. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Messrs scenes and ScottO – Your points are well made, and I stand corrected. What are mere numbers when there is more compelling history to be written to serve a greater good?

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  32. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “The devil is really in the details. ”
    Heck, it really is.
    If I were Putin, and somebody kept sending arms to Ukraine, I’d probably think about shipping a few low-yield nukes to my good friends in Iran. Hilarity ensues.

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  33. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    scenes 6:47 – “…using a videocamera that records the bin contents as the truck dumps contents into the truck’s hopper, which limits contaminants.””
    The amusing thing is every single camera will work perfectly and the digital video data will be kept in perpetuity whereas Epstein’s cell camera’s either didn’t work or had their data mysteriously deleted.
    At least the authorities are honest about their priorities. And of course there will be added sensors as time goes along to detect certain odors, thermal emissions and other pertinent data.
    I wonder what the statute of limitations are for ‘organic’ refuse crime?

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  34. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    George 8:18 – “…and I stand corrected.”
    Oh, no! You were absolutely correct. Hitler was a piker.
    But scenes was correct as well.
    scenes was talking about the reality that the public will ‘know’ or ‘remember’ and you were talking about actual reality.
    They are both true.
    Ask Heisenberg.

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  35. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    BT 6:58 – Thank you. It can’t be talked about enough. I’ve been banging on for years about the dangers of a ‘cashless’ society.
    I note that it’s always the leftists that are too stupid to understand the dangers inherent in getting rid of physical cash.
    The best point made in that podcast was – “they will then have nothing left to lose – what could go wrong?”
    The “they” in that scenario aren’t going to burn down the local shoe store, machine gun people in a church or kidnap the villages young girls as sex slaves.
    Nope.
    They probably won’t do anything.
    At first.

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  36. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Scott, I think my 818pm miscommunicated.

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  37. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    scenes 9:11 – “I’d probably think about shipping a few low-yield nukes to my good friends in Iran.”
    Well – you can think about it, but actually doing that involves a lot of stuff that gets noticed in many circles. Detonated nukes are bad thingies that upset life for a lot of folks that want to cavort with scantily clad sex partners on their ocean-going yachts. This sort of person may not control or run everything but they do have enormous power on this earth. I do believe that Putin has gone past his sell-by date. And at this point, I also believe he knows he can’t allow anyone near him with a loaded fire arm. Strap in folks, it looks like Putin is getting his eyelids sewn open for the show down.

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  38. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    George 10:04 – I think we’re all on the same page here. We get it.

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  39. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    Wait – what suddenly happened to the Wuhan virus (aka covid-19), that has killed 6000 TIMES as many as this R-Uk war?
    Fresh from the Brits – an absolutely wondrous pill teatment for the virus – baricitinib.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60601750
    “It is now well established that in people admitted to hospital because of severe Covid, an overactive immune response is a key driver of lung damage.”
    The only thing missing from the article is that the name is an obvious anagram from our very own (since banned for virus use) hydroxychloroquine. Both are auto-immune suppressors (used by many rheumatoid arthritis patients), but since it is still on-patent, a 10-day course of bari goes for L250, vs $10 for Hcq ($60 for 180 tabs of 200mg, at Walmart using GoodRx). Isn’t science and capitalism wonderful!!

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  40. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Well – you can think about it, but actually doing that involves a lot of stuff that gets noticed in many circles.”
    The noticing is the whole point. Just the threat is most of the point. It’s also a threat that can be only slightly turned on via shipments of precursor materials or delivery systems.
    Seeing as how nuclear weapons haven’t been used since carnage in Japan (admittedly to avoid Olympic and Coronet), their main use has been as a kind of belief. A faith-based weapons system like the $USD is for money. Once a conflagration starts the politics is over.
    re: Hitler. I think he has a longer shelf-life than a lot of the others just because of the comic book angle. Interesting henchmen, a veritable league of super-villains. Snappy uniforms. Underdog vs. the world. Needlessly cruel policies (why kill anyone? put them to work in the mines like any proper ancient potentate). Plus the huge shift to machine-based war, artillery has been around since the dawn of armies as have firearm equivalents, but machines that move themselves on land/air are amazing. Really good iconography. Taking over the world, Alexander/Genghis Khan mojo. Probably viewed similarly to Tamerlane in a few hundred years.

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  41. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ” I wonder what the statute of limitations are for ‘organic’ refuse crime? ”
    Probably substantial if they start rationing at some point.
    In any case, you’ll have to spend a quality hour or two at the neighborhood criticism session. Locally, the new Clerk-Recorder could set up the things using Zoom if need be. There’s plenty of opportunities for ‘My Rules’ so plenty of thought needs to go into it.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Just a note, I never post here or on The Union under anything other than my real name. I also don’t dance on graves. When I want to tell you guys you are a bunch of reactionary, racist, useful idiots I will come here and say so directly.”
    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 05 March 2022 at 10:29 AM
    I only suspect Frisch of pseudonymerie at TheUnion.
    If TheUnion/viafoura ever gets hacked or opened by discovery and posters’ IP addresses become visible to all, I may owe Frisch a minor apology for past and present suspicions, but I doubt it.

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  43. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Estonian Fox@7:24
    In case you care about this sort of thing.
    https://www.icandecide.org/pfizer/
    https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
    Gregory: ” I only suspect Frisch of pseudonymerie at TheUnion.”
    Oh well, there’s not much point in looking at him as an individual but more as an outspoken member of a crazy modern religion. Kind of like Anthony Zerbe in The Omega Man. The movement is the problem, not the individuals. If one disappears, Crazytown just promotes someone else.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 8:39 am
    “The movement is the problem, not the individuals. If one disappears, Crazytown just promotes someone else.”
    Flashback.
    ‘Know your nonprofit: Alliance for a Post-Petroleum Local Economy’
    https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/know-your-nonprofit-alliance-for-a-post-petroleum-local-economy/
    And then there is the capitalist angle to it. No money, no mojo.
    https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/lease-agreement-reached-with-apple/

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ex-Cop Involved In Breonna Taylor Case Found Not Guilty
    “Contrary to the media’s narrative, Mattingly writes that his team followed standard forced-entry protocol and explicitly identified themselves — even allotting the suspect more time than usual to respond.
    Indeed, several family members of African Americans who died during encounters with police — including the mother of Breonna Taylor — have taken aim at the national Black Lives Matter organization and its former co-founder, Patrisse Cullors, for profiting off the deaths of their loved ones. Last year, Cullors resigned from the controversial activist organization following revelations of her multimillion-dollar home buying spree.
    We never hired them to be the representatives in the fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police,” said mothers Samaria Rice and Lisa Simpson in a statement. “The ‘activists’ have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones’ images and names on their flyers. We don’t want or need y’all parading in the streets accumulating donations, platforms, movie deals, etc. off the death of our loved ones, while the families and communities are left clueless and broken.”
    Tamika Palmer, Breonna Taylor’s mother, echoed the pair in a social media post of her own: “I have never personally dealt with BLM Louisville and personally have found them to be fraud.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/ex-cop-involved-in-breonna-taylor-case-found-not-guilty

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  46. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@8:50
    I had forgotten about APPLE. A web search led me to another Frischesque organization with some words.
    https://sierranevadaalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CaseStudyTranstion.pdf
    I greatly admire the concept of a non-profit as a money making entity for moi, complete with K-Cup machine attendants, but was thinking about how to get to the heart of the matter.
    It occurred to me that the real money in mining is selling gold pans and this seems like an opportunity, especially if locally-sourced.
    To-wit, put together turnkey Sierra nonprofits with all the right words, webpage, fund raising, accounting and tax magic. A website builder could a provide a menu of words like ‘advocacy’, ‘diverse’, ‘sustainable’, ‘passion’, ’empowerment’, and suchlike.
    If this took off, it could be expanded to other places and topics. Perhaps even sell a non-profit gold pan template as a kind of MLM scheme. The sky is the limit.

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes. Don’t forget a copy of Roberts Rules of Order and you are good to go.
    ————————-
    ‘Shipping firm to move operations from backlogged California to Florida’s open ports’
    Florida has recently broken cargo container records, seen new shipping lines calling on Florida ports, and has successfully shifted cargo that would typically call on West Coast ports to the Sunshine State.
    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/shipping-company-move-operations-backlogged-california-floridas-open

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes @ 11:36 am
    Darn: I read that link but it did not include a case study for Bakersfield as it teased.I was so excited…and now deflated.

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Creepy grampa joe gave away the farm so he can buy tainted mutha mullah oil instead of producing our own! GRRRRRRR –
    “Judging by circumstances of course there are wishful thinking to get everything,” Mikhail Ulyanov (pictured) said, adding, “Realistically speaking, Iran got more than frankly I expected, others expected,” Mikhail Ulyanov told the Iranian state-affiliated IRNA news agency.
    According to the report, the Russian representative also said that the Iranian team led by nuclear negotiator Ali Bagheri Kani are “very efficient diplomats” who “fight for every comma, every word.”
    “Iranian colleagues are fighting for Iranian national interests like lions,” he said.
    https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/03/06/russian-envoy-on-nuke-deal-iran-got-much-more-than-expected/
    😉

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  50. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don’t yell at me. It’s the Ukrainian dude who is flipping out!
    https://rumble.com/vwfejn-craziest-two-minutes-of-tv-ever-ends-hilariously.html?

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