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Recalling Gov Gavin Nuisance.  The 'Recall Newsom 2020', and similar movements, reported last week that they had exceeded the 1.5M signatures needed to put the recall proposition on the ballot of a special election that would be scheduled for sometime this fall.  Many thinking Californians and millions across the country agree that Gavin has been a disaster for the state – for openers, bungling the C19 response and exacerbating policies that have accelerated our Great Exodus.  Almost everything he touches turns to crap.  These signature counts have been reported by NBC (here), FN (here), and Newsweek (here).  But that news don’t make no never mind to leftwing columnists like our Union’s George Boardman who confidently reports (here) that only 600K signatures have been collected.  Who still says that you can’t have your very own facts to support your own opinions?

[update]  A correspondent writes me that, “After two months of elected officials across the country saying that there is no need to verify signatures from the 2020 election, one politician is clinging to this very process to salvage his career. Governor Gavin Newsom of California is now seeking to ensure that all of the signatures collected in the effort to oust him be verified thoroughly. What changed? Is the integrity of one public vote more important than another?”

[17feb21 update]  Rush Limbaugh, conservative talk show host, dead at 70.  RIP.

Recall Newsom numbers.  From the comments below, George Boardman’s quietly outdated number claims are deemed correct by none other than the indominatable Steven Frisch himself.  Frisch asserts that Boardman’s couching of “…backers have submitted less (sic) than 600,000 of the 1.5 million valid signatures they need…” makes it clear to readers that to date the signature gatherers are woefully short of the number needed by St Patrick’s Day.  What he seems to ignore is that Boardman’s hopeful report was based on cited data collected and validated by 6 January 2021.  At that time the statewide cumulative summary consisted of 723,886 signatures received by the SecState, of those 485,650 signatures were put through a validation process, and of those 410,087 signatures or 84.44% were accepted as valid.  Over a week ago the various ‘Recall Newsom’ organizations reported that over 1.5M signatures had been collected.  If that validation rate holds, then last week’s expected number of valid signatures numbered about 1,266,600.

All this means that a total of at least 1,776,410 signatures need to be collected to meet the 1.5M valid signatures requirement.  And I'd bet the ranch that today there are at a minimum several hundred false flag leftwing activists out there filling petitions with invalid signatures.

[18feb21 update]  To put a ribbon on my take of Mr Boardman’s column, IMHO he wrote the usual gleeful leftwinger's report of another insipient and pending failure of California’s GOP.  To get the desired message across, he cited a grossly dated summary of gathered and validated ‘recall Newsom’ signatures – a very dynamic process, especially in its closing months – that appeared to intend a miscommunication.  Believing Boardman’s prognosis, the lightly-read reader of his column would walk away thinking that no way in hell could the Repubs get enough signatures to put the governor’s recall on the ballot.  At a minimum, such commentary cum reporting was not valid in any sense of the word.

BTW, the most recent report from the 'recall Newsom' organizations cite collected signatures well above 1.5M, with the intention to bring that total to 2M so as to insure that more than the required 1.4M+change signatures are available for validation by CA's SOS.  We shall see.

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86 responses to “Scattershots – 16feb21 (updated 18feb21)”

  1. George Boardman Avatar

    I would expect a numbers guy like you to take a more sophisticated view of the claims being thrown around by the recall proponents. While they may well have collected more than 1.5 million signatures, that doesn’t mean all of those signatures are valid.
    Among other things, you need to be a registered voter when you sign the petition, and you can’t sign it more than once–a common problem when multiple organizations are circulating the same petition.
    The latest official tally from the state makes my estimate of 600,000–a projection I got from people who follow this stuff–appear overly optimistic. According to the latest figures released by the state Jan. 27 for the period ended Jan. 6, 723,886 signatures were submitted and 410,087–56 percent–were valid. You can read all about it here:
    https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/recalls/cumulative-newsom-heatlie.pdf
    That doesn’t mean they won’t get the valid signatures they need to force a recall. But at the rate they’re going, the backers will need a total of almost 2.7 million signatures by March 17 to get the 1.5 million valid signatures required.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 1132am – You didn’t qualify your 600K and I didn’t claim that the anti-Newsom gang has stopped at their 1.5M count. Knowing that a fraction of their collected sigs will be disallowed, they’ve hired professional sig gatherers to put in place the final cushion to reduce the risk of not making the threshold.
    All said and done, I don’t think that the current crop of Californians are smart enough to dump Newsom. You gave credence to that by citing how California voters like Repub policies, but continue voting for the scumbags taking the state down the toilet. That means they cannot connect the dots. Sad.

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  3. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    George. I think that you are mistaken. Kern County has received over 21,000 signatures but have only attempted to verify 388 and of those 388, 344 have been verified…meaning Kern County still had to go through over 21,000 signature verifications. The rate of rejection is only around 16%. Meaning the proponents probably have around 1.26 million valid and verified signatures. The counties simply have not finished their jobs yet. At least that’s how I read the data.

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  4. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Fresno is a better example. Fresno has received over 27,000 signatures, they are verified all 27,000, and found that only 82% were valid. I think you’re reading the data incorrectly.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Come on Boardman,, you really believe we are that stupid?
    Even this ditch digger knows how the recall game is played.
    The signature gatherers will keep at it till the last day.
    There are plenty of true blue LIBS would would sign more than one just to have that sampling declared invalid.
    We know full well, LIBS are doing the counting, and will find any excuse to invalidate signatures.

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Rush told me what I needed to know about current events and what I needed to think about them. He will be missed.
    That should send the usual suspects into a tizzy. He was,in 92, about the only place you could hear people talk about current events from an unapologetic Republican and sometimes a Libertarian point of view.

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  7. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    “Recall backers have submitted less than 600,000 of the 1.5 million valid signatures they need by St. Patrick’s Day to force a recall….”
    Sure seems to me that based on the SOS numbers George Boardman is correct and George Rebane is incorrect….it also seems to me that Mr. Boardman did “qualify his 600k…: his qualification was “valid signatures” and the SIS entirely backs that up.

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  8. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Here, let’s try that again without the typos that give insecure little Gregory a woody…
    “Recall backers have submitted less than 600,000 of the 1.5 million valid signatures they need by St. Patrick’s Day to force a recall….”
    Sure seems to me that based on the SOS numbers George Boardman is correct and George Rebane is incorrect…it also seems to me that Mr. Boardman did “qualify his 600k.” His qualification was “valid signatures,” and the SOS entirely backs that up.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of a woody,, Here Steve,, you should love this.. Emery sure will.
    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/02/17/report-u-s-oil-production-crashes-40/
    “Bloomberg reported that oil production has fallen by close to 40 percent.”
    I’m sure Texas loves that green power right about now.
    Head on down there Steve, and tell them to put up more windmills.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt (and Woody) @ 1:13 pm
    Not only that, they have to provide power to the windmills to keep them warm, roflmao. A net ‘L’ as in loser. Grennies murdered that mother and daughter who unwisely ran the car in the garage to try to get warm. 10 degrees out and no power, freezing ass cold. The loving single mom got desperate.
    Greenies always get a woody when they step on dead deplorable Texas women and children types to feel 6” taller. They know best.
    https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/02/144538663_10157599235741433_7475780234949435317_n.jpg?w=437&ssl=1
    https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-25-at-3.28.41-PM.png?w=886&ssl=1
    ——————————————————-
    As far as Gavin’s potential recall, the votes are always a month behind because each county has to verify signatures and counts and they don’t do it weekly. Some are counting late Jan still All 51 or 52 or whatever there are in The Golden Shower State. That’s after a two step voter registration and ID verification, then sent to the proper county. Be that as it may….it is funny that NOW Dems are all concerned with voter verification, signature match, and all the other stuff that very very very recently pooh-poohed and dismissed just practices as (racist) Voter Suppression!
    Every vote matters, whether deadlines are met or not and signatures matches does not matter! Voter Suppression!
    Wonder how Gavin feels about deadlines now? Will late signatures count? ROFLMAO.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ0nuuRnnOI
    Oh Gavin, me thinks you love French Restaurants too much.
    https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/02/Screen-Shot-2021-02-08-at-7.43.49-AM.png?w=944&ssl=1

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  11. George Rebane Avatar

    re StevenF 1234pm – Please see 17feb21 update to my post.

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Golly, ‘Shaky Stevie’, I’ve not been following the recall closely and haven’t signed the petition.
    Yes, he’s a Lousy Governator, but recalls coincident with the election to fill the orifice are a problem. I say, give him room to really trash the state and have the usual election in … WHAT? Next year?

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Come on back Steve,, explain why these signatures need to be verified,, when all the votes for Biden didn’t….
    I’m sure Emery has a real good lame ass excuse.

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  14. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    “At that time the statewide cumulative summary consisted of 723,886 signatures received by the SecState, of those 485,650 signatures were put through a validation process, and of those 410,087 signatures or 84.44% were accepted as valid.” Steve and GeorgeB are playing semantics. As of January 6, about 260,000 signatures had not gone through the verification process. With Biden getting involved and Newsom scrambling and the data bearing an 84% validation rate, it seems fairly certain that they will attain the valid signatures by March. The recall folks actually mailed us a petition to sign with a self-addressed stamped envelope. Lots of funding is needed to do something like that.

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  15. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Barry Pruett | 17 February 2021 at 03:50 PM
    Just to be clear, the data we have is the data reported by the SOS, and on that Boardman is correct. That is the only thing I commented on. Anything else is you guys putting words in my mouth.
    Of course I noticed that many of the signatures were still waiting to be validated, but what Rebane said was that Boardman’s comment was not qualified, and it was.
    [Walt, signatures on mail in voting are verified with voter registration signatures, just as signatures on petitions are.]
    I personally think there will be a recall election…unfortunately.
    The reality is the recall itself is nothing but a ridiculous game game…another distraction brought to you by the MAGA crowd, the State of Jefferson crowd, the Constitutional convention crowd…you know, the friggin’ gang that could not shoot straight in California and if luck represents about 35% of the population.
    Republicans have not won a statewide constitutional office since Arnold’s second election in 2006, and as many of you have regularly noted here, Arnold is not exactly today’s Republican.
    A recall is the only way a Republican can even remotely compete, and in this case there will not be a single Republican candidate because I seriously doubt that Falconer, Cox and Grenell can agree that Republicans should only coalesce around one of them.
    Just another rabbit hole for you lost souls to run down.

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  16. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Nah. Newsom then goes the way of Gray Davis. All Newsom’s ambitions of power will evaporate. Bye Felicia.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    “Unfortunately”? So you approve of his disastrous ways.
    Got it… Thanks.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Republicans have not won a statewide constitutional office since Arnold’s second election in 2006, and as many of you have regularly noted here, Arnold is not exactly today’s Republican.”
    -Frisch 457pm
    2006… the year the Global Warming Solutions Act was put into place, and giving Democrats in the state the opportunity to worship at the Church of Our Lady of the Presumptuous Assumption. Theyy love the sermons!!!!
    In fact, recently, the lower atmospheric temps have been falling and are now within about .1 degree from where they were in ’06.
    http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_January_2021_v6.jpg
    Lot’s o’ windmills not doing so well in Texas today… but that’s just weather.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    OK Lefties,, YOU make the call. You voted for the somebitch,
    Lying? or unfit for office?
    “Trump argued that Biden was “either not telling the truth or mentally gone” after the president appeared to claim during a CNN town hall that the coronavirus vaccine was not available before he took office in January. ”
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/02/17/trump-rips-biden-over-vaccine-claim/
    You know damned well the vaccine was being doled out and people getting dosed.
    Have what it takes to give a straight answer?

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Or Both @1008?
    😉

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  21. Walt Avatar

    C’mon Don,,, I have to give then an easy choice.
    Three things to try and consider?? Cold fusion will be workable first.

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  22. Walt Avatar

    I would post the facts, but the SAC BEE is real ainal about that.
    So Biden won’t write off 50,000 in student loan debts,( doesn’t believe he has the authority.)(LIBS pissed) But he would do it for ten thousand… And where does the authority come from for that?

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  23. Chris Peterson Avatar
    Chris Peterson

    Walt,
    And easy explanation to your inquiry is that, much like your deposed savior, it takes a degree of unbiased thinking to understand that Biden was talking about the reserves the previous administration claimed were there. As he said in his interview that day, when they went to release all the supposed reserves of the vaccine, “the fridge was empty.”
    His exact quote, speaking to host Anderson Cooper: “The biggest thing is, when you and I talked last, we talked about…it’s one thing to have the vaccine—which we didn’t have when we came into office—but a vaccinator. How do you get the vaccine into someone’s arm?”
    He said they didn’t have any vaccine to send out; he didn’t say there was no developed vaccine when he came into office. Matter of fact, if you read the whole interview, he said exactly the opposite. You have read his comments erroneously, which seems to be a common thread here on this blog, and your posts in particular.
    And my condolences on the death of Limbaugh; may he rot below ground as he did above.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    Ahh, the joys of impending national unity that we seek through the gleeful exchange of snark for snark.

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  25. Scott O Avatar

    Chris P – “And my condolences on the death of Limbaugh; may he rot below ground as he did above.”
    Ah yes, the caring and tolerant left.
    Rush hardly ‘rotted’ above ground, Chris. He had an career in radio that surpassed any before him and most probably after. He enjoyed life and was truly a happy warrior.
    I would advise you, Chris, to ditch the hatred you carry around.
    It will ‘rot’ you like nothing else.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Nice try Cris,, Damage control at it’s finest.
    I guess you missed the “live*” interview.

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Gota love how the Proggy press work damage control for Joementia.
    Hey Cris,,, Do you have an excuse from when Biden took credit for Trump’s economy? Now go do some homework on that.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Ah, how good it is when brethren dwell in unity.
    Pick a card, any card. You can feel the love.
    https://www.newsbusters.org/
    Good morning America, how are ya on this fine day. Boy, did Texas blow it big time or what? They say it will cause as much damage to life and limb as Hurricane Harvey. Ah, I remember when Melania and Donald visited Hurricane Harvey. Donald wore the wrong gloves. Triggering event. 🙂

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Chris Peterson | 18 February 2021 at 08:56 AM
    Chris…..congrats on the new gig….I didn’t know that political damage control was your line of work.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 17 February 2021 at 10:48 PM
    Yep….screwed the youth vote…..again! But I mean really….what did America’s idiot children think “The Senator from MBNA” was going to do?
    Waiting to see now how hard President Sniffy fucks blue staters who thought they were going to get to deduct State and Local Taxes (SALT) again!
    What suckers……

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Now if it was a state that voted(supposedly) for Chancellor Biden, someone would have dialed the phone for him.
    But since it was RED Texas, well,, uh,, ummm,,,, “we lost the number”….
    Nope, Biden is still MIA on the Texas disaster.

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  32. Chris Peterson Avatar
    Chris Peterson

    Walt,
    There was no such thing as a “Trump economy.” Unemployment continued to drop and the stock market continued to climb since Obama saved your wretched soul from the free fall of the 2008 market due to unregulated corporate greed at the hands of conservative, piss-down-your-back-and-tell-you-it’s-raining, trickle-down republican idiocy, up until the con man screwed the pooch in his handling of the pandemic. Half a million maskless MAGAs down the proverbial drain.
    And Herr Rebane, a quick read of posts from your fast and loose followers shows that you only call “snark” when it’s not from one of your card-carrying John Birch political adolescents. Half a standard is no standard at all.

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Chris Peterson | 18 February 2021 at 11:15 AM
    And Herr Rebane, a quick read of posts from your fast and loose followers shows that you only call “snark” when it’s not from one of your card-carrying John Birch political adolescents. Half a standard is no standard at all.

    Nazi and a Bircher references…..in a single post…..you will be an asset to the administration.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    LOL!!!!! Cris has been drinking from the kool aid fire hose.
    Nice try for an amiture Cris, even the proggy press had to call Chancellor Biden on that.
    Funny,, no links to backup your claims..
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/23/what-biden-gets-wrong-about-trump-economy/
    “At Joe Biden’s May 18 campaign kickoff rally in Philadelphia, the Democratic presidential contender said “President Trump inherited an economy from the Obama-Biden administration” that Trump is now “in the process of squandering.”
    Can’t blame Biden for trying to polish up the record of the years when he served as vice president, but — seriously? Democrats continually try to diminish the current administration’s economic achievements by suggesting that Trump was handed a booming economy in 2016. Biden in particular seems likely to hit that theme throughout his campaign. And he’ll be just as wrong next year as he is today.”
    https://www.lakelandtimes.com/opinions/trump-economy-surges-biden-and-obama-hog-the-credit/
    “Joe Biden is at it again — living in his own parallel universe. The same former vice president who says that his son Hunter was hired by a Ukrainian oil and gas company because of his expertise in energy policy is now claiming President Donald Trump has “squandered” the strong Obama economy he inherited.
    Here is how Biden put it in a speech last week in Scranton, Pennsylvania: “Donald Trump inherited a strong economy from Barack and me.” Then he added: “Things were beginning to really move. And just like everything else he’s inherited, he’s in the midst of squandering it.”
    What’s next? Jimmy Carter taking credit for the Reagan boom?”
    Do we need to go back to the “O”loser years with you?
    Remember that “magic wand” “O” referred to?
    Trump shoved it up your boy “O”‘s a** and broke it off.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    ChrisP 1115am – what part of my “exchange of snark for snark” was confusing?

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  36. Scott O Avatar

    Chris 11:15 – “There was no such thing as a “Trump economy.”
    Actually, Obama admitted there was.
    Remember O said it would be impossible to get past a 2% increase in GDP.
    Trump did it, Chris. Not to mention the increase in wages that O couldn’t manage.
    Lowest unemployment ever for non-whites. Much better than O.
    and:
    “…the free fall of the 2008 market due to unregulated corporate greed…”
    Oh, there was plenty of blame – it wasn’t just ‘corporate’. And please stop spreading fairy tales about corps being ‘unregulated’.
    Total BS spewed by ignorant leftys. The govt is always involved if there is a financial catastrophe:
    https://www.foxnews.com/story/fannie-mae-fined-400-million-for-accounting-manipulations
    And don’t forget the Dems favorite con artist Frank Raines:
    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/franklin-raines-to-pay-247-million-to-settle-fannie-mae-lawsuit/
    Gee – he had to pay back some of what he conned the govt out of and never spent a minute in jail.
    History is just a tad more complicated than “blame the Republicans”.

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  37. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Chris Peterson (BFF of RLC) and Michael P. Anderson jumped on the piss on the grave of the dead celebration at Crabbman’s boil.
    Crabby posted a ‘toon that looks too good to be his work, but there’s no attribution. no copyright assertion. Takes a bunch of Limbaugh quotes out of context from his banter on his show, making him out to be a fascist. Easy Peasy.

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  38. Scott O Avatar

    Gregory – “Takes a bunch of Limbaugh quotes out of context from his banter on his show,…”
    Those partial quotes are the limit of the Lefts’ attention span.
    If Limbaugh was so awful, wouldn’t it be better to post the full text?
    Just another news filler to take the spotlight off of our bumbler-in-chief.
    How about another news story about the cute lawn signs at the White House?
    Chris and the other Leftys just love that stuff.

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  39. Walt Avatar

    This is how the Proggys like Cris spin it.
    Trump wins election in Nov. That fact alone has business hiring, stock market sales light on fire, Jobs coming back etc. Anything good that could happen,, DID.. Yet “O” still in office.(and out on the golf course)
    “technically”,, “O” is running the show… SEE?? “O” did it..
    That was HIS booming economy. Possession is 9/10ths of the law.
    So recall what “O”&Co. kept repeating of “accomplishments”?
    “GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead” Funny,, How many bodys of “dead” investors did they create to keep GM on life support?
    OLD GM stocks worthless.. But all of “O”‘s pals and lap dogs had the stock of the “new” GM. ( then handing it over to the UAW) The ones responsible for driving GM into the ground in the first place.

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  40. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Yeah Chris once again the Dems have to rescue us from a trashed economy which is the Republican heritage they leave time and time again. Obama and Roosevelt are two previous examples and it’s getting worse-two Republican administrations in 12 years leave a destroyed economy for the Dems to restore as they leave office.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Just wake up “no facts” Emery?

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  42. Walt Avatar

    “Dems have to rescue us from a trashed economy ”
    “job killer” Joe is off to a fine start Emery.
    Now where are those “millions of green jobs” Joementia is
    BSing about?

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  43. Chris Peterson Avatar
    Chris Peterson

    ghoti,
    Bircher reference…you need to own it; it’s not your dad’s fantasy anymore.
    And Nazi reference? Maybe you should ask your blog host which came first, Herr or Hitler? His family comes from that neck of the woods and probably has, ancestrally, a closer connection than you know. Many of those held in the allied camps at the end of WW2 were…well, he can answer that better than we can.
    What say you, Rebane? Were people using Herr as part of their language long before the Nazis? And do they not still use it, not in a pejorative way, but in everyday language?
    Cheers

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    ChrisP 133pm – Dispense us some of your historical wisdom Mr Peterson. According to your lights, who exactly were “many of those held in the allied camps at the end of WW2”?

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Yes or no Crish,, Hitler was or a Socialist?
    What has the Left party mostly become these days?
    Have you missed the rhetoric from “your side”?
    “Everyone who voted for Trump is guilty of being part of the (so called) inserection”
    Yaa,, pretty damned hard socialist to me.
    But on a side note, It’s not as Nazi as you try and imply
    “Herr
    /her/
    noun
    a title or form of address used of or to a German-speaking man, corresponding to Mr. and also used before a rank or occupation.
    “good morning, Herr Weber”
    a German man.”
    Is Germany NOT a socialist state TODAY?
    You can send my 100 dollars for my teaching charge to George.
    No, I don’t take EBT…

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Chris Peterson | 18 February 2021 at 01:33 PM
    Yeah…..looks like PJ O’Rourke was right….nobody fantasizes about being tied up and ravished by a liberal.

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    gr 153pm
    i think chris p just can’t grok anyone going towards the German lines even when the Soviet Red Army are shooting at their families just for being Estonian… weren’t the Red Army led by Papa Joe Stalin always the good guys?

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