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[A lot more news about the candidates (and other issues) is coming out every day besides that which can be connected to voter fraud.  Please extend your discussions of these to the fresh Sandbox.  gjr]

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169 responses to “Sandbox – 16nov20”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    re: China, China, China.
    ‘Beijing Sends Biden a Warning’
    Because of Donald Trump, Vice President Joe Biden thundered during the campaign, the U.S. “is more isolated in the world than we’ve ever been … America First has made America alone.”
    Biden promised to repair relations with America’s allies. And he appears to have gone some distance to do so in the congratulatory phone call he received from Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga of Japan.
    According to Suga, during the brief call, Biden said Article V of the U.S.-Japan Mutual Security Treaty of 1960 covers the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea, islands Japan controls but China claims as its own.
    “President-elect Biden gave me a commitment that Article 5 of the US-Japan security treaty applies to the Senkaku Islands,” said a delighted Suga. And what does Article V commit us to?
    “Each Party recognizes that an armed attack against either Party in the territories under the administration of Japan would be dangerous to its own peace and safety and declares that it would act to meet the common danger…”
    Message: The U.S. will treat a Chinese attempt to take the Senkakus, tiny rocky outcroppings in the East China Sea, as an attack on the USA, and America will fight China to secure Japan’s right to keep the islands……..
    …..
    While we reject China’s claim to all the reefs, rocks and islets in the South China Sea and her claim to the Senkakus in the East China Sea, should we be obligated to go to war over these tiny parcels of land, especially when their legitimate owners are unwilling to fight for them?
    Biden repudiates an “America First” foreign policy that puts U.S. security, sovereignty, liberty and vital interests above the interests of any other nation.
    But what is it, then, that Biden puts first?
    Globalism. A New World Order. A Crusade for Global Democracy.
    Been there, done that.
    Sixty years ago when Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy faced off, the foreign policy debate was over whether the U.S. should fight Mao’s China to defend the tiny offshore islands of Quemoy and Matsu.
    Kennedy thought not. Kennedy won.
    https://buchanan.org/blog/beijing-sends-biden-a-warning-142370

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    It’s a great mystery, I tell ya.
    ‘After Insulting Trump Voters For Years, NYT Writer Complains Reaching Out To Them Is A ‘Waste Of Time’
    Wajahat Ali spent the better part of the last year mocking and mischaracterizing the very type of person he claims to have attempted to “reach out” to.
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/19/after-insulting-trump-voters-for-years-nyt-writer-complains-reaching-out-to-them-is-a-waste-of-time/
    Wow. Maybe I was wrong when I thought that Gov Cuomo was #1 in the absence of self awareness category. Ali is #1 and a big number two. Watch where you step.

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  3. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    We warned you –
    A sign of America’s future under Biden? This transition team member has questioned the First Amendment
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stengel-biden-transition-first-amendment
    😉

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  4. Walt Avatar

    See? Gunfire has rabid LIBs crapping themselves.. And us Trump people get the blame.🤣🤷‍♂️
    “8:46 a.m. — A man from the 300 block of Miners Trail reported hearing revving engines and shot fired. He was advised it was a shooting match at the police range, but he said he believed it was related to Trump rallies.”
    Then again,, Trump rallies may just do that. Be afraid… Be VERY afraid.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Screw your socialist carrot on a stick.
    Only if you make them pay it back.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/19/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-fight-the-coronavirus-by-paying-people-to-stay-home/
    You commie bastards forget where that money comes from.
    Looking to turn the U.S. into Venezuela six months into Joementia’s short term?

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  6. D Avatar

    Commie bastards, that’s rich coming from a brainwashed Breiterbater.

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Geez Dr. R, can we import a better class of troll, the rock thrower is too pathetic to engage. Even makes the pony tail of ignorance look somewhat normal, kind of. –
    “We discussed the need to help states with Title 32 funding for the National Guard. That’s the fancy way of saying governors, governors need to be able to get funding when they disp— when they dis— they need to, uh, and, and, bring their, bring their National Guard into play,” Biden said.
    Minutes later, he gave a meandering answer:
    “I’m going to— we’re going to impose the— we’re going to enforce the— excuse me, employ the defense, reconstruct the act, to be able to go out there and dictate companies build and do following things,” Biden said.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/19/joe-biden-bumbles-through-appearance-vows-to-dictate-to-companies/
    😉

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Nevada City Fats took the lowest covering the Rudy and Sidney Show today, mostly punting any actual journalism to the Daily Mail which was absolutely fascinated by the sweat running down his face and oher superficialities. Anything to avoid the subject raised by Trump’s legal team.
    When 76 you are, look as good you will not, Jeff. In fact, I suspect you will have returned to dust by that age.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Where did Lil’ Bob go? Too much of his Rx? He needs to make excuses for “babbles” Biden.

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  10. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Gregory. So far there are a lot of fraud allegations which are being ignored by the MSM. Of course NCF would ignore and mock, because that’s all he does. He was never a “journalist” but a purveyor of rhetoric posing as a journalist. Same education as the MSM but clearly not as successful. In any event, Rudy has some evidence of fraud. Is it enough to drag this election out through the courts? I don’t know yet, but what I do know is that making this argument to a biased media who would be voiced from a jury is pointless further judges don’t like litigants to be airing dirty laundry and arguing with the media. Sidney Powell however better have something solid or she’s gonna end like Geraldo in Al Capone’s vault. 😂🇺🇸

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  11. D Avatar

    “Having failed to make even a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, the President has now resorted to overt pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election,” the Utah senator and frequent Trump critic said in a statement posted to Twitter. “It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President.” – Mitt Romney

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  12. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Obviously Keachie failed to watch the press conference yesterday. There is substantial evidence of fraud. The question is whether the evidence is credible and whether it is sufficient to sustain a finding of pervasive fraud which calls into question the alleged results. These questions need answers. Voting is not just important to democracy. It actually is democracy, so I would think that even democratic socialists like the FUE and keachie would be interested in making certain that we have a democracy of the people. The stability of our nation depends on the elections being fair.

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  13. D Avatar

    sorry brainwashed berry,
    Sidney Powell has no proof.
    Are you really a lawyer?
    “We took Sidney Powell seriously. We had no intention of fighting with her, we’ve always respected her work,” Tucker Carlson said. “We simply wanted to see the details. How could you not want to see them? So we invited Sidney Powell on the show. We would have given her the whole hour. We would have given her the entire week, actually, and listened quietly the whole time at rapt attention. That’s a big story. But she never sent us any evidence despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page. When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her.”

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  14. D Avatar

    Maybe more of a Micheal Cohen or Rudy Guiliani style lawyer?

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  15. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    I said, “Sidney Powell however better have something solid or she’s gonna end like Geraldo in Al Capone’s vault.” Can you even read Doug? I haven’t seen any evidence from her supporting her wild allegations. That said, hundreds of American citizens both democrat and republicans have signed sworn statements alleging widespread fraud in Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Georgia. These citizens (who are percipient witnesses) should be heard and vetted. There is a lot of evidence of fraud. Is it enough? That’s up the courts and the state legislatures to decide. Not me or you.

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  16. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    When nearly 40% of American citizens believe that there was some shenanigans going on during the election, we as a society owe it to each other to properly vet these allegations. Our democracy depends on it. You should support such vetting…that is if you have nothing to hide. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  17. D Avatar

    I was responding to your comment to me Barry, not yours to Greggy.
    We know Sidney Powell is George’s heroine, and Walts.
    Does anyone realize that Trump has not talked to a reporter since the election.
    He is not going to Margo Largo either.
    He is doing his Hitler impression.
    Afraid to leave his bunker at the White House, afraid they will change the locks on him and throw all his stuff out onto the White House lawn.

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  18. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “D” is performing a Godwin’s Law seppuku.

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Sidney Powell has no proof” – “D” 743am
    I don’t know what Sidney Powell has. Only a few people do at this moment. None of these people will be posting comments here.
    patience is a virtue.

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  20. D Avatar

    Loved Godwin’s Law

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  21. D Avatar

    But for all we know, Trump does have syphilis.

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    For all we know, “D” has syphilis. In fact, that would explain a lot.

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  23. rxcross Avatar
    rxcross

    Greggy and his “Godwin’s Law” spiel are getting quite worn out. Godwin himself said that in the case of trumpler, comparisons to Hitler are more than appropriate as would comparisons between real patriots and the partisan morons who, despite overwhelming evidence to the opposite, continue to pass on unsubstantiated and stupid claims based on mountains of lies from trumpler about election fraud. What does it tell you that he fired anyone and everyone who contradicts his lies? FBI statistics show that hate crimes against Jews have skyrocketed in America since trumpler cozied up to Q-anon and labeled Neo-nazis as patriots. Sound familiar Godwin?

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  24. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Honestly and if there is this much alleged fraud going on, the FBI ought to be very quietly looking into these allegations. The allegations are serious, but the FBI cannot go public that they are investigating as that would only sow more doubt in the results. I really do want to know if Trump et al are correct about the voting systems. Such a serious allegation deserves scrutiny from both sides.

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    re rxcross 1031am – Now here is an excellent example of the outpourings from someone who 1) knows nothing of Hitler, 2) fabricates what Trump has said, and 3) makes a tenuous case connecting Trump and hate crimes against Jews (totally ignoring fundamental Islam).
    In the meanwhile, move your voter fraud related comments to the appropriate topics, they don’t belong here.

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  26. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    rxc is sounding a lot like Michael P. Anderson
    There are a lot of GOP voters who believe there was significant fraud.
    There are also a lot of DEM voters who believe there was significant fraud.
    We shall see what there is to see in the next few weeks.

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Gregory | 20 November 2020 at 10:38 AM
    rxc is sounding a lot like Michael P. Anderson

    ???
    A little too whiny for Michael (as well as insufficiently homicidal) and too preoccupied with who is a legitimate news source.
    Err ….um …..25 Quatloos (yes….that’s it….Quatloos) on the gravitationally challenged former pretend newsman who calls your fair burgh home!

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    RX Crossed Up
    I agree with your FBI stats. While black and Muslim discrimination against and alleged hate crimes suck all of the. oxygen out of the room, hate crimes against Jews has skyrocketed faster than any other group. This is due to blacks and Muslims and black-Muslims attacking innocent Jews walking down the street. Especially In Blue NewYork City where the two communities share the same space.
    From Rev Al to Rev Jesse Jackson to Minister Farrakhan to Keith Ellis to Rev. Jeremiah Wright to the Squad to the Women’s March to Dem members of Congress, the Democrat Party has a BIG anti-semantic problem in it’s ranks, in academia, and in its psychotic psychic.
    The biggest threat to the Jewish (and LBGTQQ community) today comes from the Muslim and Black Community, not the far right or Christian Fundamentalists, aka, the former Moral Majority.
    RX Crossed Up, don’t you keep up with the news? Must have been a hundred articles on the skyrocketing hate dreams in NYC alone. Usually some black woman who gets triggered at just the sight of them, and, of course, picking on Orthodox Jews that stand out like a sore burka, full length. The Jewish people represent to Islamics the “little Satan”. The USA represents the Big Satan.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘NYT Columnist Who Called For ‘End Of Israel’ To Appear With Noted Antisemites‘
    Anti-Israel activist groups are sponsoring a panel discussion on “dismantling antisemitism,” featuring New York Times columnist Peter Beinart who previously called for the “end of Israel” as a panelist.
    “Beinart’s words echo those of former Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi who also advocated for Palestine to gain more authority and status in 2001 in the New York Times.”…..
    “Hill, another guest on the panel, was fired in 2018 from his contributor position at CNN after calling for a “free Palestine from the river to the sea,” using language eerily similar to that used by the Hamas, an Palestinian Islamic militant, and nationalist organization. In addition to his anti-Israel comments, Hill endorsed an anti-Israel BDS targeting the Jewish state.
    The panel is scheduled to be hosted online Dec. 15.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/20/nyt-columnist-who-called-for-end-of-israel-to-appear-with-noted-antisemites/

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  30. D Avatar

    “Trump’s legal adviser Jenna Ellis in 2016 called him an ‘idiot’ and said his supporters didn’t care about ‘facts or logic’”
    – well, Jenna was on the mark in 2016. Now that she is getting paid the big bucks she thinks the sun shines out of Trump’s pie hole.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/politics/kfile-jenna-ellis-2016-trump-comments/index.html

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    California. Survey explains a lot.
    ‘Don’t ‘Californicate’ The Rest Of America’
    https://issuesinsights.com/2020/11/19/dont-californicate-the-rest-of-america/

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Legalized extortion is about to make a BIG comeback.
    Proggys need the campaign contributions from the unwilling.
    (Union dues again with a gun to your head)
    https://krcrtv.com/news/local/search-team-finds-body-of-missing-woman-other-still-missing

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Carson speaks from his death bed.
    ‘Saved my life’: Dr. Ben Carson says President Trump ‘cleared’ him for Regeneron’s experimental antibody treatment
    “President Trump was following my condition and cleared me for the monoclonal antibody therapy that he had previously received, which I am convinced saved my life.”
    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/11/20/saved-my-life-dr-ben-carson-says-president-trump-cleared-him-for-regenerons-experimental-antibody-treatment/
    NOT TO BE TRUSTED (factcheckers, that is.)

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Should I post this under Scattershots: Undercover Thanksgiving or under Follow the Science? Sandbox will suffice.
    No, Buck, thats not crazy. That’s
    Power Mad Guano Crazy
    https://mobile.twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1330328853168918528?

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  35. Walt Avatar

    You can see an end to this as well.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/20/man-raped-killed-teenager-shovel-executed-federal-government-orlando-hall/
    No more FED executions. We know how the Proggys love to kill the unborn, but not killers who have lost their right to breath.

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  36. NC Right Wing Watch Avatar
    NC Right Wing Watch

    Goodknight,
    Question for ya- how does it feel to be a Trump Cult Member? You’re not particularly bright if you trust those crazed lunatics Guiliani and Sidney Powell. When have either of them succeeded in any legal cases in the last 10 years? Where’s the Hunter Biden dirt and the General Flynn exoneration? lol. Gregory, lets get real, you’re just not that smart in real world matters. Stick to whatever it is you are good at, whatever that is.

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  37. NC Right Wing Watch Avatar
    NC Right Wing Watch

    Screw Ben Carson. Another lunatic. Now with permanent Covid damage.
    Loser. Soon to be gone in 58 days.

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  38. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Pellini… is that you? Is your son coming home for Thanksgiving dinner?

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  39. Walt Avatar

    Hi Babs,, That’s your new TROLL name? NC stand for NEVER CORRECT? Yaa, that fits the stoned Nevada City types.
    Still on the Rx we see.
    Now that’s a hateful LIB for you. Racist as well.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What a way to start a morning. Somebody woke up grumpy….two days in a row. Asking what has Sidney Powell done in the last ten years is like asking what has John Lewis done in the last twenty years.
    On any given Sunday…..
    What’s it all about, Alfie?
    You disrespect me? You disrespect me?!?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6KExqs_3o

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  41. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Dear George: At the behest of my wife, I started writing again.
    http://barrypruett.blogspot.com/

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Joe Biden: Why Are Reporters Asking Me Questions?
    “Former Vice President Joe Biden isn’t used to getting real questions. On Friday, Biden appeared dumbfounded as to why a reporter was asking the projected Democratic presidential-elect a question as the press pool was being scurried away by staff.
    “Mr. Biden, the COVID task force said it’s safe for students to be in class. Are you going to encourage unions to cooperate more to bring kids back to classrooms, sir?” asked CBS reporter Bo Erickson.
    “Why are you the only guy that always shouts out questions?” Biden said.”
    “….. Meanwhile, one would be hard-pressed to find California Sen. Kamala Harris, Biden’s running .mate, at any point throughout the entire general election campaign taking a single question from a reporter during a press conference.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/21/joe-biden-why-are-reporters-asking-me-questions/
    And to think Trump got hammered for having two scoops of ice cream. I believe the press has found a way to cure Creepy Uncle’s lifelong foot in mouth disease. Don’t ask, don’t tell.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Bill… (Morn’n) That’s a hardball question for the geriatric news guy Emery. Yes,,, WHY is the press asking a relevant question? The BIGGER question is,, WHY didn’t he answer?
    (How DARE you ask me a question.)

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Nature abhors a vacuum. The thin Blue Line that separates society from anarchy is growing thinner. Defund the police and we get Lord of the Flies. It has always astonished me how quickly humans descend into their nature state of chaos, mayhem, and murder once the buffer of authority has been lifted. Left to their own devices, they become soulless creatures. Nobody is going to tell me what to do!
    ‘New York City shootings in October surge 120% year over year’
    ‘NY descends into chaos’
    ‘Man with a flamethrower stands atop NYC bus and fires away’
    ‘Homicides skyrocket across U.S. during pandemic, while robberies and rapes plummet’. Wa Post
    ‘NYPD Officer Assaulted By Multiple People While Jogging In Queens’. CBS-New York
    Minneapolis police: “Be prepared to be robbed.”

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Morning Brother Walt!
    Is it just me, or have others noticed that the Dems are quite touchy when asked about school closures. Those kind of questions like, “Hey, are you shutting down the schools again….or when will you work on getting classrooms reopened ?” is one big flashpoint for our Moral Betters. It ost certainly triggers them.
    ——-
    “Pacino is a lock for next years Oscars. His Cuomo is UNCANNY.”
    “I don’t care what you think’: Cuomo lashes out at reporters at Covid briefing
    Governor faced a backlash for berating journalists in response to questions about New York City school closures
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/18/andrew-cuomo-coronavirus-briefing-reporters-new-york-schools

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  46. rx cross Avatar
    rx cross

    wah wah wah…fraud fraud fraud..stolen election..wah wah wah said the trumplicans…. bullshit said the judges… YOU LOST fair and square now take your ball and go play golf and pout while the country suffers from a pandemic you ignored and made worse.

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Yes Bill,, they like their autocrat dictatorship.
    The sooner they can end the economy,,, the better.
    Soon as Biden is guided to the oval orifice, the sooner
    the Proggys will start sliding amnesty for all illegals
    in front of him to sign.(REAL cheap labor is what the LIB employers demand…SCREW the American worker)
    Just wait for the executive order to close all prisons. Let the criminals run free.

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