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George Rebane

[I found this little bagatelle buried in my RR WIP folder where I had stashed it a couple of weeks ago after being inspired by some serious news videos from our inner cities reporting on a particularly egregious evening of riotous celebrations during our summer of love.  Anyway, since such observances continue unabated, I thought I’d just throw it out there for what it’s worth.]

It is clear that the police assigned to man the line during street demonstrations and riots are not very organized in the way they encounter rioters who need to be addressed – constrained, pushed back, arrested, defended against – as individuals.  Today police appear to act either as loners without dependable support, or as members of an ad hoc squad that suddenly decides to form and descend on a rioter while other officers either join the engaged squad, thereby contributing to the disorganized appearance of piling on, or they individually just mill around while obviously not addressing the remainder of the rioters.

The problem is that individual officers know that it is dangerous to go one-on-one with a rioter, because other rioters will come to the aid of one of their own and attack the lone officer trying to do his duty.  The result is that the overall response of the massed police operating in this manner turns out to be much less effective that what is possible with a different command structure on the ground.

A workable solution to this problem is that EVERY officer on the street is first and foremost a member of a two-man team, every officer has an assigned partner or ‘wingman’ (a la fighter aircraft).  They operate as a team in constant communication with each other.  They are never more than, say, ten feet apart, always with an eye on each other.  They go after a rioter together in a tactic where one can address the rioter, while the other defends the encounter.

Such two-man teams can also call for other such teams to support them as the need arises.  The fundamental point here is that no line officer feels alone and uncertain of what kind of support he may depend on or receive, when either attacked or in response to a decision taken to inhibit or arrest a rioter.  Everyone always has a wingman, everyone operates in pairs.

This principle is already adopted and in practice with regular patrol officers up to the level of detectives who work with an assigned partner in relationships that endure anywhere from many months to many years.  This format needs to be replicated on the streets when responding to demonstrations and riots.  Every demonstrator should know that police operate in pairs, and that they will quickly be reinforced by other paired teams.  In short, no officer should feel like the Lone Ranger when it all hits the fan.

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86 responses to “Wingman Riot Response Tactic”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes @ 9:00 am
    Thanks for the post. No wonder the angry short white guy was trying to smash the child’s head in with a skateboard. It’s against the law for that kind of convicted felon to carry a firearm, ‘I assume.’ He was obeying the law….mostly peaceful protestor he be. Fits right in with the Blue Mob.
    “Joseph D. Rosenbaum, 36. Rosembaum is (was) subject to a life-long sex offender registration order in Wisconsin for his Arizona conviction on two counts of Sexual Conduct with a Minor in 2002. Sentenced to 10 years in prison, he appears to have been incarcerated in Arizona from 2002 until paroled in 2012. He apparently violated his parole by tampering with a monitoring device in 2014 and may have been incarcerated thereafter. During his incarceration he racked up dozens of corrections institute disciplinary violations for offences including Assault with a Weapon, Assault on Staff, Arson, and Possession of Narcotics.
    It is difficult to be certain, but it appears from the video that the two individuals, Short Bald Subject and Huber, are acquainted, if not acting in concert.
    Both appear to aggressively challenge the group “protecting” the Ultimate establishment, but Short Bald Subject is much more confrontational.”
    BOTTOMLINE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1X-_fbPUc

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    How the media is covering it.
    https://www.facebook.com/officialbenshapiro/videos/902655780143929/
    No 1st Degree murder convictions for the child? Possible, likely until the details of the first one shot emerges.

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  3. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Thanks for agreeing with me fish. what we has was a child with a loaded automatic rifle shooting people on public streets

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  4. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    I believe that a minor with a firearm is a class a misdemeanor. That said, target number three was a convicted felon in possession of a firearm which is another felony AND he was trying to point it at the boys head. All these folks are stupid. Rittenhouse (for going there in the first place good intentions or not), the two dead guys (trying to disarm a boy carrying an armalite rifle by chasing him and assaulting him), and the ex-felon (carrying a firearm with which he tried to kill the boy). I have said this repeatedly on this blog – if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. None of these people should have been there doing what they were doing. In any event, Rittenhouse has the best lawyers and will get off on self defense but will be guilty of a class a misdemeanor. The video is pretty cut and dry. Further, there is no way on this planet you get 12 people to convict that boy.

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Thanks for agreeing with me fish. what we has was a child with a loaded automatic rifle shooting people on public streets”
    “What we has” is a geriatric reporter with weak English language skills, and the AR in question was not an automatic rifle. Also, fish wasn’t agreeing with you but then, you knew that.
    It does appear the kiddie did shoot people on public streets, but it seems the people shot needed shooting. The kid’s life has changed and not for the better. Kids, stay away from riots. Everyone else, stay away from riots, too.

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  6. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    In fact target number three who almost got his arm blown off should be charged with assault and an ex felon in possession of a firearm. If they are going to overcharge Rittenhouse with first-degree murder, they could probably charge target number three with attempted murder as well. Another lawyer in my office whose very liberal (Bernie Bro’s) believes that maybe they’re charging rittenhouse with first-degree murder knowing that they can’t get a conviction.
    I would like to add I love having these discussions with my liberal lawyer friend in my office. Just the same I love having these conversations with Paul as well.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 28 August 2020 at 10:29 AM
    You never disappoint Punch! Nice grammar and analytical skills…..! Automatic rifle…..hah!
    Posted by: Barry Pruett | 28 August 2020 at 10:41 AM
    Sorting this out is going to be a shit show! That’s for sure Barry! Still, kudos to the kid! With one exchange of fire he ventilated a pedophile, a wife beater, and a communist.

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  8. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    I’m not much for TV news politician interviews, but here’s Rand Paul talking about his dealings with Democratic voters. I just put this up because I’m already seeing outright lying about why he was walking to his hotel.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFDx5qTlGjU
    Gregory: “It does appear the kiddie did shoot people on public streets, but it seems the people shot needed shooting. ”
    But how can Paul’s people get their way unless you can’t protect yourself, can’t protect your home, can’t protect your business? The Blue Mob wants to consume us all.
    Once again Mr. Paul, actually read through this, and come back with a good discussion. Merely getting your information from a couple of clickbait headlines does no one any good.
    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/The-Kenosha-Shootings-Kyle-Rittenhouse-A-Tactical-and-Legal-Analysis-WARNING-Bandwidth-Intensive/5-2362796/
    I’ve got other stashes of videos, but this is the best all-in-one summation I’ve seen. Being a propagandist can’t be all that satisfying a life for you.

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  9. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Just the same I love having these conversations with Paul as well.”
    To me they feel like arguing with a parrot.

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  10. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    So Gregory you seem to infer kids killing people on public streets is ok when you say “It does appear the kiddie did shoot people on public streets, but it seems the people shot needed shooting.”
    So Gregory you are indeed giving an ok to killing people on the public streets if they “needed shooting”. My goodness Gregory, who determines that someone needs shooting to use your words?

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yelling “Black Lives Matter” while harming another of another race is a hate crime in CO. Good to know. Very good to know. Hate crimes usually carry sentencing enhancements.
    “The Sentinel Colorado reported that the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) records described the hate crime charge as “felony ethnic intimidation.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/black-man-yelled-black-lives-matter-while-allegedly-stabbing-white-man-hes-facing-hate-crime-attempted-murder-charges-report-says

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “My goodness Gregory, who determines that someone needs shooting to use your words?”
    In the end, a jury in a courtroom. Patience, grasshopper.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The riots are shifting the needle toward the Prez –
    The New York Times has grudgingly acknowledged the success of right-wing and conservative media on Facebook, worrying that it might indicate a looming Trump victory in November. In Particular, the Times notes that Breitbart News posts have been shared 4 million times in the past 30 days, “roughly three times as many as posts from the official pages of every Democratic member of the U.S. Senate combined.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/08/28/new-york-times-laments-the-success-of-conservatives-on-facebook/
    😉

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – “My goodness Gregory, who determines that someone needs shooting to use your words?”
    Easy answer – the person trying defend himself from an attacking mob.
    Disclaimer: this answer was not known by nor authorized by Gregory.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    So Gregory you seem to infer kids killing people on public streets is ok when you say “It does appear the kiddie did shoot people on public streets…
    “Seem to infer.” I infer that self defense is justified for shooting people that need to be shot. If they were not trying to harm the minor, the child, they would not need to be shot as the child was running to the police for help…and his own personal safety after calling 911 to report to the police his actions as required by law. The child’s life was in danger by a violent mob participating in criminal activity. A mob of non-human types. Mostly animals.

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  16. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy has apparently forgotten the adage,”It’s better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6″.

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Some bumper music for Paul’s show.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzei3gP6Qsg

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    WATCH: Democratic State Rep. John DeBerry Shames Rioters, ‘What Kind Of People Have We Become?’
    “Tennessee State Representative John DeBerry Jr. delivered a powerful speech against the riots earlier this month in a house session, where the Democratic representative denounced the non-peaceful riots and expressed fear for the future.
    “If we don’t start standing for something don’t you know that the people that are looking at what’s happening in Washington, in Detroit, in Portland, in Seattle, they’re getting emboldened because we act like a bunch of punks. Too frightened to stand up and protect our own stuff. You tell me that somebody has the right to tear down property that Tennessee taxpayers paid for? That American taxpayers paid for? And somebody has the right to destroy it, deface it, and tear it down? What kind of people have we become?
    Peaceful protests ends peacefully, anarchy ends in chaos. What we see happening right now, any of us with any common sense, any common sense whatsoever, know that what we see is not peaceful. So we can continue to fool ourselves and mix with words and use rhetoric and public relations in order to frost this stuff over and put a nice picture on what we see that is frightening”
    (And now the kicker)
    The consequences DeBerry mentions [for speaking out] are very real this election year. In May, the Tennessee Democratic Party’s State Executive Committee voted to remove DeBerry from the Democratic primary ballot after 26 years in office. One of the committee members who voted to remove him said that DeBerry wasn’t “exemplifying the basic Democratic principles.“
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/28/watch-democrat-state-rep-john-deberry-shames-rioters-what-kind-of-people-have-we-become/

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  19. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ….and, of course.
    “GoFundMe removes campaigns for Kyle Rittenhouse, teen accused in deadly Kenosha shooting”
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/27/kyle-rittenhouse-gofundme-campaigns-removed/

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  20. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    This appears to be the general Blue Mob riot thread, so heeeere’s Kamala Harris.
    https://twitter.com/chiIIum/status/1299077701916073984
    At least she’s honest.

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Your tax dollars at work –
    NPR worries that declaring violent Portland protests to be riots could be racist
    Taxpayer-funded outlet aired report saying riot declaration laws rooted ‘in the state’s racist history’
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/npr-portland-riot-declaration-may-be-racist
    😉

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    This makes it clear its the socialists new red guard rioting and it has nothing to do with race –
    Pro-Trump Dem Vernon Jones calls for congressional investigations after being hounded by ‘mob’ in DC
    Crowds hounded Jones and hurled ugly racial slurs outside the White House Thursday
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vernon-jones-investigations-dc
    😉

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    While the socialist media fawned over ‘peaceful protesters’ we all knew there was a lot of planning, social media cuts both ways! LOL –
    https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/08/28/bellevue-wa-46-arrested-or-charged-for-well-organized-looting-during-blm-riots/
    😉

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  24. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    “So Gregory you are indeed giving an ok to killing people on the public streets if they ‘needed shooting.’ My goodness Gregory, who determines that someone needs shooting to use your words?” Scott got the nail on the head here. The person who is defending himself chooses. Had that kid not done what he did, there is a high probability that he would be dead or seriously injured. While he choose poorly going to Kenosha in the first place, he choose correctly I think in protecting himself. Showed pretty good trigger discipline for a 17 year old as well.

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  25. Scott O Avatar

    The kid’s lawyer claims he didn’t cross state lines with the AR.
    Looks like he’s signalling that the DA can’t prove it and they know it.
    He doesn’t have to say how he obtained the firearm in WI. Maybe he found it while he was fishing? But it looks like all they can get him on is possession.
    The various upcoming trials of the officers and the kid will be off the charts in public interest. I’m thinking there’s a lot of DAs that found it easy to indict are now going to have to face the reality of a very public trial.
    Meanwhile the murder rate in large Dem cities (mostly all black victims) continues to climb.
    BUT!
    Black lives that don’t fit the narrative don’t really matter, do they?

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  26. Scott O Avatar

    I’m pondering the fact that the kid will be charged (maybe) as an adult and at the same time as a minor.
    I’m certainly aware of minors being charged as adults in murder cases but can the DA have it both ways and charge the kid as an adult AND as a minor at the same time? I realize there are two separate types of charges here. Possibly some one (Barry) can chime in?

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott. In WI, 17 is the age where people are tried as an adult. Like CA’s 18.
    Seems like a nice young man, coming over to help guard innocent people’s property and businesses. Helping complete strangers out and even attending to anyone who needed aide (medic) to all people, looters and rioters and arsonists and dopers and shiftless opportunists and white Supremacist Liberals and, yes, even all members of the Blame America First Crowd. Truly a humanitarian.
    Under Wingman Riot Response Tactic, our Wingman in Minnesota has not given up or given up on Minnesota. The Freedom Club strikes again!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=Ud77A68kwJY&feature=emb_logo

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I heard someone say that black Trump voters are just unicorns.
    I can tell you from my personal experience over the years traveling to places the TDS deletant set would be afraid to go that the families, victims who suffer from the drug dealing bangers every day are not down with defund the police.
    They are also laser focused on illegals taking their kids jobs. That’s why we are seeing historically high numbers of minority communities support for the prez , especially now.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/28/black-voices-for-trump-helping-to-clean-up-blm-chaos-in-wisconsin/
    😉

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    BT – 8:37 – Yeah, I get that but can they also charge him as a minor at the same time? How can he be ‘of age’ and ‘underage’ at the same time?

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  30. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT; “I believe the child should be charged with bringing in a firearm across state lines. At 17, it is against the law in Illinois to have a firearm. Probably the same in WI, open carry state or not.”
    from Lin Wood’s twitter feed (responding to someone with a similar theory):
    “When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.
    Truth always prevails.”

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  31. Scott O Avatar

    scenes – 9:56 Who is this friend? I wouldn’t go there. That involves another person in a possible crime.
    The state has to prove he brought the firearm across state lines.
    If they can’t, he doesn’t have to say squat.
    “Yes, I was in possession of a firearm. I did not bring said firearm across the state line.”
    “I have nothing further to say.”

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  32. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    I rather like this. H/T Tim Pool
    “Let’s dub this “Cuban’s Wager”
    In a civil war
    If youre on the left and the left wins, you live
    If youre on the right and the left wins you die
    If youre on the left or right and the right wins you live
    The smartest play is pretend to support the far left”

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  33. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    …I left out the tweet that Tim Pool was responding to.
    Mark Cuban: “In 25 yrs when 2020 is reviewed in history classes, no one will discuss the cable-news shows, the President’s or anyone’s tweets. Students will learn who among us stood up for what is Just, Right and Fair. I’m proud the
    @NBA
    and our players will be central to that conversation”
    https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/1299513376276709377

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    If youre on the left and the left wins, you live
    Mr Cubans grasp of revolutionary history is incorrect! The left, knowing that there were many “go along to get along” types hiring in the proletariat were happy to slaughter them as well. Knowing that they, not being part of the “leadership” could never be fully trusted.
    Part of the reason that you are seeing; “liberals get the bullet too” graffiti popping up.
    Sorry Steve…!

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    re fish 1014am – That is correct. The aftermath of a successful communist revolution always includes taking the pre-revolutionary underground leaders and warriors to the basement and shooting them. Why? When these invariably become disillusioned with the aftermath of the revolution, they are the local experts who know the territory/people/resources and can launch a successful counter-revolution. It was ever thus.

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