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[The Democrats' damage and destruction to America's black population reaches back to ante-bellum years.  In recent decades they have turned their tender mercies for our African-American neighbors onto cynical avenues that have laid waste to black families and the communities in which they live.  Under decades of Democrat rule we can echo the question asked by an enlightened black candidate for Congress – name any city in which life for blacks has improved over the last, say, forty years.  About all this our leftwingers respond with crickets.  Here is a campaign video that spells it out. (H/T to reader)  gjr]

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327 responses to “Sandbox – 24aug20”

  1. George Rebane Avatar

    “… Trump has wrecked the economy.” What an utterly simplistic (actually butt stupid) worldview. But hey, there is an ample constituency in the land with a sufficient deficit for which such a message is spot on – no more thought required.

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 25 August 2020 at 11:00 AM
    “… Trump has wrecked the economy.” What an utterly simplistic (actually butt stupid) worldview.

    Paul knows to stick to the progressive narrative. Perfectly adequate for someone at his level of activism.

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  3. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ” Perfectly adequate for someone at his level of activism.”
    He’s simply the ‘friendly’ public face of something far more malign.
    Oddly enough, the IMF claims that Canada will have a larger drop in GDP than the US.
    Other countries with bigger economic drops…Germany, France, Italy, UK
    That Trump must be a busy guy.
    Truth is, the KVMR news team is allies of a group which will say whatever it takes, do whatever it takes, think whatever it takes to achieve a greater degree of power. A single party state in California is insufficient. The tech surveillance monopolies, MSM, schools, bureaucracy aren’t enough. Traditional America needs more crushing than that.
    The Dalrymple quote again:
    “Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”
    So, by golly, keep your mouth shut and hold that black power fist high. Go along and get along in Paul’s Nevada County.

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The masters of the universe still have a thumb on the scale –
    Amazon Prime Video live streamed all four nights of the DNC last week but did not offer a live stream of the RNC on Monday night, according to Breitbart News.
    The article read:
    Searching for RNC coverage on Amazon also proved to be more difficult than searching for DNC footage. A search for the term “DNC” brought up Amazon’s livestreams from all four days of the Democratic National Convention last week, while an “RNC” search failed to return anything related to Monday’s convention.
    Amazon users had to search the term “Republican National Convention” to find any RNC-related content, the report stated.
    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/25/first-night-rnc-gets-nearly-six-times-more-views-dncs-cspan/
    😉

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  5. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Predictable response from George on the economy and Trumps Presidency. According to George and the other RR’s Bush had nothing to do with the Great Recession and Hoover and Harding had nothing to do with the Great Depression. The similarity of all three is that they happened while there was a Republican President.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    re: 25aug20 update] “America will suffer its greatest assault on religious institutions after a Biden victory according to the policy platform laid out by the Democrats.”
    Man, ain’t that the truth. One can present volumes of supporting evidence on that very issue, or one needs to look no farther than the C-19 contact tracers in NY and the Blue East Coast. A contact tracer is NOT allowed to ask the exposed to the virus person if they had been to a riot, demonstration, or protest or large outdoor gathering. They are instructed to ask if the person had been to a church or synagogue. Rioting and mass demonstrations taboo to ask, religious services must ask about.

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  7. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 10:06 – “He’s already sabotaged the Post office …”
    Gee, that’s strange – our mail delivery seems just fine.
    What are you talking about, Paul?
    Speaking of voting – my darling wife and I voted this morning. We drove over to the local voting place and I didn’t see a single dead body anywhere near the place. I could have sworn the Dems said voting in person would kill millions of people.
    Of course it was for white people only – you had to produce a photo ID to vote and the Dems tell us non-whites can’t do that for some reason.

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: paul emery | 25 August 2020 at 11:49 AM
    What would you have recommended Punch?

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  9. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 10:50 – “…he had an ineffective response.”
    And his ‘response’ should have been?

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Squawk, squawk. Paulie want a cracker.
    ‘Pelosi’s Postal Lie’
    She shamelessly feigns defending the Constitution while spinning conspiracies.
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/72968-pelosis-postal-lie-2020-08-25?
    Well, if it is safe enough to go line up at Safeway or SPD, then it is plenty safe to go to a polling place…with more way social distancing than the Bonanza Market.

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its going to get uglier fast –
    Shortly after midnight, a group of demonstrators got in their cars and traveled to a residential neighborhood where they parked in a grassy area across from a row of houses. As they began exiting their vehicles, a homeowner emerged from his house and began firing warning shots at the rioters.
    The would-be rioters began to flee as the man fired several more shots. In another incident, a group of rioters attacked and burned several local businesses in an area near a residential neighborhood. As the rioters moved through the area, several shots rang out from a man who appeared to be a business owner.
    https://www.breitbart.com/social-justice/2020/08/24/watch-kenosha-residents-fire-warning-shots-as-rioters-threaten-neighborhoods/
    😉

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1149am – From where did you now fabricate those claims?? No one here made them, save only for your having made them up. The Great Depression and Recession had causes much more complicated than the socialists’ sophomoric claim that they were simply caused by the presidents du jour.

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  13. Scott O Avatar

    Paul’s really in great form today – “According to George and the other RR’s Bush had nothing to do with the Great Recession and Hoover and Harding had nothing to do with the Great Depression.”
    Harding died in 1923, so I’d be fascinated to hear Paul explain how he had anything to do with the stock crash of ’29 and the ensuing depression that was mostly during the presidency of FDR.
    As far as George or anyone here claiming that Bush “had nothing to do with the Great Recession…”
    Citations?

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Remember when Punchy described Trump’s Inaugural Address as dark, a dark speech. That was 6 hours after every Fakenews outlet had called it dark. Shuttered factories like tombstones across the landscape. Well, darkness is back. Boy is it. Glad the glum lot’s convention is over.
    https://patriotpost.us/memes/72959-dark-2020-08-25
    or
    https://patriotpost.us/articles/72971-day-one-at-the-rnc-a-dark-night-for-democrats-2020-08-25?
    ——————————————————————————
    And to dovetail with the Left’s darkness, here are daily quotes from Year Zero:
    Political futures: “Ronald Reagan used to say America’s best days were ahead. Republicans should say if the Biden/Harris/Sanders/Ocasio-Cortez gang assumes power, they will transform America into the darkness they now falsely claim envelops us. If they win, their pessimistic rhetoric will become all too real.” —Cal Thomas
    Upright: “We value and respect every black life. The black cops who have been shot in the line of duty, they matter. The black small business owners who have watched their life’s work go up in flames, they matter. The black kids who’ve been gunned down on the playground, their lives matter too. And their lives are being ruined and stolen by the violence on our streets.” —Nikki Haley
    For the record I: “Democrats refuse to denounce the mob. And their response to the chaos? Defund the police, defund Border Patrol, and defund our military. And while they’re doing all this, they’re also trying to take away your guns. Look at the positions they’ve taken the past few months: Democrats won’t let you go to church, but they’ll let you protest. Democrats won’t let you go to work, but they’ll let you riot. Democrats won’t let you go to school, but they’ll let you go loot.” —Rep. Jim Jordan
    For the record II: “It hurt my soul to hear the terrible names that people called Donald. The worst one is ‘racist.’ I take it as a personal insult that people would think I’ve had a 37-year friendship with a racist. People that think that don’t know what they’re talking about. Growing up in the Deep South, I’ve seen racism up close. I know what it is. And it isn’t Donald Trump.” —Herschel Walker
    For the record III: “If you want to take a look at Joe Biden’s America, take a look at Portland … where they had a riot. Take a look at the woman who punches the other woman in church… Take a look at the 51 shootings in New York and the four murders — that’s all happening under Democrat mayors who actually now do nothing about it.” —Rudy Giuliani
    Birds of a feather: “If you look at Joe Biden’s goals and Bernie Sanders’s goals, they’re not that different from a 40,000-foot level.” —Barack Obama
    Braying jackass: “The Russians were there and they are there now 24/7 trying to interfere in our election, but they’re not the only ones. We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring of the Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue with their allies in the Congress of the United States.” —Nancy Pelosi
    And last… “Comparing the [Donald Trump] economic agenda with the [Joe Biden] plan is like comparing the moon landing with the Hindenburg.” —Stephen Moore

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    We had an extensive discussion on the topic of the Great depression a few weeks ago and in no way did you attribute any responsibility to Hoover or Harding instead you deflected to Roosevelt who became President after the Stock Market Crash and the Depression that followed. . Gregory went so far back blaming it on Wilson. Also the ‘recession was the fault of the Dems according to the RR’s not the Repubs. That has been expressed over and over. Fact is that Trump showed poor leadership in the Covid situation that contributed to the crisis. It was all going away like “poof” he said over and over. He said it was a war and as commander and Chief he failed in his leadership.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 August 2020 at 01:06 PM
    It was all going away like “poof” he said over and over. He said it was a war and as commander and Chief he failed in his leadership.

    It is going away Punch. For someone who is so obsessed with large numbers (presidential polls) I assumed you would be watching. Cases and fatalities are falling. Remember….this was originally supposed to be a “two week flatten the curve period”.
    What happened to make the interval last oh so much longer!
    And hey…thanks for agreeing with me!

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  17. Scott O Avatar

    Paul – Can you read? Harding died in 1923. FDR was not president after the Great Depression, he was president for most of the great depression. According to FDR’s own Sec of the Treasury 1939:
    “We have tried spending money. We are spending more money than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just none interest, and if I am wrong . . . somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job, I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. . . . I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started . . . . And an enormous debt to boot!”
    Please tell us what Trump should have done, that was within his legal authority to do based on what YOU knew about CV19 back in January. If you can’t then I would suggest you cease to comment on the subject.

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  18. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Scott
    The Depression happened under Hoover and FDR inherited it much like Obama inherited but did not create the Great Recession.
    It was Trumps job as Commander in Chief of the “war”, as he put it, and he failed in his leadership. It is his job not mine to come up with solutions. Over 175,000 and climbing deaths, more than WW1, is his legacy. Instead he claims victory and the RR’s agree with him.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    1) Well, if Punch’s $1,000 guitar is his source of income, then no need for the taxpayers to spring for 18% of his salary at the local underground FM station. Glad we got that straightened out. Thanks, Paul Emery. A volunteer could easily fill your position, no less a chimpanzee.
    2). See Crabbman ain’t blaming the economy of Trump in today’s toon. Something about Gavin and the single party state. Come to think of it, Gavin has shut down a lot of California jobs.
    3). Biden’s China Virus plan is to come up with a vaccine. Genius. Why didn’t anybody else thing of dat? I am in awe.
    ————
    4) ROFLMAO. They are consistent if nothing else.
    HYPOCRISY: NBC Scolds Scott, Wants ‘Rhetoric Ratcheted Down’ at RNC
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/08/25/hypocrisy-nbc-scolds-scott-wants-rhetoric-ratcheted-down-rnc
    Hmmm. The DNC kicks off with some grieving lady from Arizona blaming Donald J. Trump for the death of her father. He died of the Chinese virus. Trump killed my daddy!
    Never in my lifetime has a political convention (D or R) has ever stooped to such a low shameless. level as accusing the opponent of murdering someone’s daddy. Opps. Strike that. The Dems had a old guy say that Romney killed his wife with cancer…6 years AFTER Mitt sold the company. Oh my. Now they cry, “Ratchet down the rhetoric!” No wonder Punchy vowed to never vote for a major party canidate for Prez again. If he does, does that make him a l-i-a-r or not?
    I wonder if that Arizona woman’s daddy was the poor sap who drank fish tank cleaner.

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This is sooo delicious. Pick a card, any card.
    https://www.newsbusters.org/

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  21. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No one is buying what they are selling –
    A convention is supposed to boost its party in the polls. So far in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, it’s Trump who surged during the Democratic convention. Maybe that’ll change with later polls, but it’s not a good sign. Measures of social media engagement found that the vast bulk of attention went to Michelle and Barack Obama. Biden came in a distant third, and — despite her “historic” selection — Harris barely registered.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-convention-fell-flat-viewers-184010151.html
    😉

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  22. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery
  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Richard Spencer back in the news.
    ‘White Supremacist Who Organized Charlottesville Race Riots Endorses Joe Biden’
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/24/white-supremacist-who-organized-charlottesville-race-riots-endorses-joe-biden/

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  24. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punchy 210pm
    you dumb shit
    Biden isn’t in that poll. That’s just a Trump approval poll. How is he doing the job.

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 25 August 2020 at 02:18 PM
    Yeah….that’s pretty funny!

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If memory serves the pony tail of ignorance was excoriating rasmussen here recently. LOL
    😉

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 25 August 2020 at 02:28 PM
    If memory serves the pony tail of ignorance was excoriating rasmussen here recently. LOL

    Our Punchy….High Priest in the Church of “What’s Working Today”.

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Still doing better than 0 at the same point so what is your point oh great pony tail of ignorance? –
    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-hits-51-percent-approval-7-points-higher-than-obama-on-same-day-in-2012-rasmussen/
    😉

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  29. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “HYPOCRISY: NBC Scolds Scott, Wants ‘Rhetoric Ratcheted Down’ at RNC”
    lol. Good to hear.
    “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, labeled US President Donald Trump and the Republican party “domestic enemies” and “enemies of the state,” escalating the rhetoric about voting by mail in the upcoming election. ”
    https://www.rt.com/usa/498930-pelosi-republicans-domestic-enemies/
    Truth is, I bet she’s having a lot of fun right now. It isn’t like she’ll be toting a rifle in the revolution she wants to start up.
    A not-bad discussion (talking head alert!). Mind you, these guys are not at all right wing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tU7rlNBt-Y

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Don Bessee | 25 August 2020 at 02:49 PM
    That was a good catch…..not one in a thousand would have noticed.

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  31. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 1:38 – Sorry I can’t keep up with Paul’s ever-changing choice of words. When challenged on his historical F’ups he simply ignores it or tries to cover up his mistake with a new claim.
    As far as Trump “…he failed in his leadership.”
    How would you know Paul? You admit you have no clue.
    All the world has been hammered with the Wuhan Flu, Trump didn’t start it and it certainly isn’t his fault. If you can’t point out a better course of action than the one Trump took, then you have absolutely no way to know if he actually did as well as anyone could have.
    He certainly has done better than Biden would have and better than what the Dems wanted. We know that for a fact.

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  32. George Rebane Avatar

    Regarding America’s fortune’s and public policies and who caused what, it is futile to talk to any liberal (including Paul) about leadership and political responsibility. Their simplistic answer is always that the whole thing was caused by the president in office, except when things got worse or didn’t improve or … under a Democrat. Then it was the Republican who came before or followed who gets the blame. The disastrously ineffective roles of FDR during the Depression or Obama’s during the Recession are neither in their history nor lexicon – it was all Hoover and Bush2, and that’s that.

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  33. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Their simplistic answer is always that the whole thing was caused by the president in office,…”
    or simply the President’s political party, without a bit of knowledge about the times or the people involved.
    The basic problem isn’t that it’s a poor argument, and a common staple of precocious kid arguments, but that a child-man is driving the conversation. It would be interesting to think about the causes of the Great Depression, I’ve fairly sparse knowledge on that. I’d probably need to start with actually understanding the facts on the ground a bit rather than worrying too much about economist-generated word salad.
    A rather artistic video:
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298140650202755077
    I have a feeling that without these independent guys on twitter/facebook/etc. few people would know what is going on. It may well be that independent journalism will be kicked off of those platforms, it’s Year Zero after all.

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  34. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    ….as a side note, I did read Shlaes’ book on the Depression (before someone suggests it), but remember it being a little light on an overview. It was never intended to do that of course.

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  35. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    It was under Hoover and Bush 2 that the Depression and the Great Recession happened George. How the Dems picked up the pieces and carried on is another story completely. Just like when Biden has to pick up the pieces after Trump is out office.

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  36. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Scott
    Trump himself said this is a War and the President is Commander in Chief. Are you satisfied how our Commander in Chief fought this “was”, as Trump describes it?

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  37. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Nothing new here Gregory. Biden still up by 97 in RCP’s delegate numbers. No bump after his financial plan a couple weeks ago. Trump has to win 75% of the toss-ups to pull this off.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map.html

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  38. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Looks like Paul Emery is tring to rewrite history again. Ain’t gonna work.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What a maroon @ 442 –
    Sac Bee says this –
    More conservative than you might think’: Nearly a third of California Latinos support Trump
    AUGUST 25, 2020 4:25 PM

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  40. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Just reporting the RCP numbers Don. Sorry it’s so hard on you. Nothing personal, just the facts.

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  41. paul emery Avatar
    paul emery

    Not much of a problem with California delegate votes Don. Biden up 62-29.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/california/

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Your comprehension of statistics is the same as your reading comprehension @514. LOL
    😉

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey look a unicorn from a fakenewsman –
    CNN’s Jake Tapper offered a rare on-air correction Tuesday of an erroneous statement he made the night before, claiming that Donald J. Trump Jr. had defended Confederate statues in his speech at the Republican National Convention (RNC).
    As Breitbart News noted in a fact check, Don Jr. “specifically defended the ‘Founders’ and defended ‘monuments’ in general, not Confederate ones”
    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/08/25/cnns-jake-tapper-offers-on-air-correction-on-donald-trump-jr-rnc-speech/
    😉

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  44. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    also yesterday.
    “Biden supporters have now set fire to an apartment building in Kenosha with families inside.
    Businesses also set on fire.”
    https://twitter.com/MAGA_GRL_4Life/status/1298131894639276032

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  45. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Comrade Sanders has the answer.
    “No more tear gas, no more pepper spray, no more rubber bullets on protestors. Ban them all.”
    https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1298376134321741826
    Makes sense. Basically you have two choices in Sandersworld. Cops do nothing, cops use lethal force.
    I hope everyone’s fire insurance is up to date.

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  46. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Nice pics.
    “The Wisconsin Department of Corrections building was set on fire during the second night of unrest in Kenosha. Reduced to rubble and ashes. This video was recorded before bulldozers were brought in. ”
    https://twitter.com/ViNguyen/status/1298332008565952512

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