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Sandbox – 24jun20

24 June 2020

[In the intro to the last Sandbox, my invitation to readers to discuss the dollar-value of human life went over like a turd in a punchbowl. It appears that the best approach to discussing the value of human lives is just to bloviate with a lot of virtue signalling thrown in. That's supposed to divert the reader from discovering that the writer has no idea what he's talking about. Public policies are supposed to be made with some regard to a broadly agreed on dollar-value of a human life, but only, I guess, if the public gives a damn. Oh well. gjr]

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440 responses to “Sandbox – 24jun20”

Barry Pruett

29 June 2020

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattWolking/status/1277795427551715328
Democrat Party (DNC) tweets that Mount Rushmore is a symbol of white supremacy. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Todd Juvinall

29 June 2020

Paul Emery is a typical lib. Makes me laugh to read his tripe. What a hoot!

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L

29 June 2020

So what would hereabouts look like if Columbus had stayed home? Kinda quiet if history is close to correct. No chance at all for the current conversation in the land of no wheel. What would Keach and the lying hippie suggest should have happened instead?
We are truly, probably, living in the last (not just ‘great’) Century of man. George has never specified when that Century began, but I’m fully in accord with his assessment that it will, indeed, be the last. I wish it were otherwise, Paul. but your’re not helping by spreading your learned version of insanity.
Once in awhile I actually say what I really think, and here we are…

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Gregory

30 June 2020

That’s not a nazi swastica… it’s a Buddhist sauvastika.
I wouldn’t order a pizza like that because I like more pepperoni in every bite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika

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Gregory

30 June 2020

Punchy 656pm
Why would you think I’d abandon Rasmussen? I’m not like you, shopping for polls to give me numbers I want to see.
I use them because they make their numbers easy to use and they don’t follow the herd.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

A least one person has a conscience.
SHELLENBERGER: On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shellenberger-on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Well, hell hath froze over. A lib just said he was wrong. That’s one for the record books, even though his opinion piece was quickly deleted.
‘SHELLENBERGER: On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare’
“On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.
I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.
But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shellenberger-on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Dr. Rebane. Check spam folder.

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scenes

30 June 2020

“So what would hereabouts look like if Columbus had stayed home? ”
That’s a good question. Perhaps completely unchanged, there was no reason for technical advancement after all, acorns as food don’t give you a lot of wealth or time for other matters.
Perhaps Moctezuma XII and his conquering army would have swept through the place to find people to sacrifice. After all, those hearts ain’t gonna extract themselves. It takes a lot of dead people to keep the universe running properly and you can imagine how many an expansionist Aztec culture would need.

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scenes

30 June 2020

Gregory: “That’s not a nazi swastica… it’s a Buddhist sauvastika.”
When the Blue Mob campaign workers stop by everyone’s house, I wonder if they’ll search for Rudyard Kipling books.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

SHELLENBERGER: On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shellenberger-on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare

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scenes

30 June 2020

Paul Emery: 9:02PM June 29, Year Zero:
“George

Do you feel comfortable living in this Community that has now taken on a blueish personality?

Just for Paul’s sake as posted outside of his typical Trump OCD for once…
Here’s a DNC post:
https://newsthud.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/DNC-trump-rally-white-supremacy-scaled.jpg
So Paul, is an Independence Day fireworks show ‘white supremacy’? Should we tear down the Mt. Rushmore statues. Yes or No???

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

The Strategies of Dementia Politics….the cardboard canidate.
“Often Biden cannot finish a sentence. Names are vague eddies in his mind’s river of forgetfulness. He is in a far more dire mental state than a physically failing FDR was in his 1944 campaign for a fourth term.
The earlier career of a healthy Biden illustrates that he was not especially sharp even when in control of most of his faculties. We recall the former sane/nutty Biden of Neal Kinnock plagiarism, his “put y’all in chains” demagoguery, the studied racism of Biden’s riffs about a “clean” and well-spoken Obama, and the sane/insane Corn Pop stories. All are the trademark of a once fool Joe “Biden, who was at least alert when compared with his current catalepsy. If Donald Trump can be ungrammatical, Biden is agrammatical — he simply streams together half-thoughts without syntax and then abandons the sentence entirely.
If Trump repeats vocabulary, Biden increasingly searches for words, any noun, whatever its irrelevance to the point he is making. Biden seems to suffer dyscognitive seizures, in which for moments he has no idea what he is doing or saying or where he is — a tragic, nearly epileptic condition. In scary episodes, the pale, scaly, and frozen visage of Biden appears almost reptilian, like a lizard freezing and remaining stationary as it struggles to process signals of perceived danger.“
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/joe-biden-campaign-strategy-hide-biden-stoke-chaos-obstruct-recovery/

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scenes

30 June 2020

BillT@7:55AM June 30, Year Zero.
So what are the odds that Biden disappears at the last moment to be replaced by Her Nibs?
I’d say that’s an increasing possibility.
It’s a pretty sweet strategy. Crater a good economy via epidemic plus ineffective measures in Blue cities (particularly New York), blame Trump. Set loose street armies to burn and loot while at the same time activate the sleeper cells in the media, internet companies, academia to tear down historic US culture.
President Clinton pardons and/or throws funds at her partners in the endeavor. All Justice Department investigations into the coup against Trump disappear. Cancel culture becomes law, universal surveillance is amped up. Borders open, all currently existing illegal aliens are given permanent residency. Gun laws are radically increased in order to seal the deal.
The existing middle class huddles in their house with a telescreen and an Echo, ordering Chinese goods through Alexa waiting for the knock on the door for their ‘privilege’ and hate crimes. All they ever wanted was to be left alone.
Well, I’m feeling hopeful.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

‘SHELLENBERGER: On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare’
http://dlvr.it/RZfmv3

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fish

30 June 2020

Here’s one where GaffeMaster Flash got it right….

BIDEN: TRUMP SURRENDERED TO VIRUS…

Of course who wouldn’t have surrendered to a virus that killed….120 million people!
https://news.yahoo.com/virus-surge-grips-red-states-122632367.html

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Paul Emery

30 June 2020

Scenes questions:
is an Independence Day fireworks show ‘white supremacy’? No- Should we tear down the Mt. Rushmore statues. Yes or No??? no

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

We have been duped, says Shellenberger. Apologizes for his contribution to the Green Lies and Climate Scare.
“Michael Shellenberger is a Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment,” Green Book Award Winner, and author of Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All (Harper Collins, June 30, 2020). He is a frequent contributor to The New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, and other publications. His TED talks have been viewed over five million times.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/shellenberger-on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare?
Hell hath frozen over. A Lefty saying he was wrong and takes responsibility for his part in perpetuating the Hoax. I

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George Rebane

30 June 2020

Kudos to PaulE’s 941am responses to questions put to him – clear, complete, and concise.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Dr. Rebane @ 10:37 am
Kudos agreed. But, Paulie responded to a question posed on ‘Cultural Cohesion, its a coming’ by answering in the Sandbox, lol. Still, is a major development. Baby steps and still steps in the right direction so we can experience the healthy exchange of ideas. Bravo. Like watching a little one blowing out their 1st birthday candles. A round of applause always follows.

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scenes

30 June 2020

re: BillT@10:51AM
To be fair, I posted in both places. I thought it would be interesting to see a Paul post that wasn’t just Trumphate. I had forgotten about Emerianism, which is politics based purely on Trump. Other than that, Green Libertarians just wing it.
News o’ the past.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39014669/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/report-iran-pays-each-us-soldier-killed-taliban/
Just how much money did Obama ship over there? I forget.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Guess I will put this here since it mentions Mt. Rushmore. Trump take on things.
TRUMP IS RIGHT
“Not on everything, presumably. But on the key issues of our time, he is right on the money. I didn’t know about this interview on Friday until I saw it linked on InstaPundit this evening, and I haven’t seen a complete transcript. But The Federalist is a good source, so here we go:”
True
True
True
True
True
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/trump-is-right.php

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Paul Emery

30 June 2020

Huh Bill? I responded to Scenes 7:45 on the sandbox that read:
“So Paul, is an Independence Day fireworks show ‘white supremacy’? Should we tear down the Mt. Rushmore statues. Yes or No???”
Plese correct yourself. We all make mistakes.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Paulie.
Check out Scenes’s 11:09 am. I was in the margin of error, so I got it right.
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Different topic.
The upcoming 4th of July: It’s it a big no-no to celebrate the 4th of July this year? Not talking about the COVID effect, fireworks in the dry season, or taking your young child along with you to witness and join in the brutality of the street mobs. No, I mean regular 4th of July celebrations.
Last year Bobbie Cross was shitting bricks and all fearful and trembling that Trump was planning to declare martial law and take over the government with the aid of his military goons. Tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Ave and surrounding the White House!!! The end to our democracy…on the 4th of July.
Where do these delusional wack jobs come from?? Talk about connecting the dots, ROFLMAO.
Oh my. What a total shit for brains.
Anyway, is it ok to celebrate the 4th of July this year. I know how the Leftinistas feel the USA, think of the founding of this great country, and celebrating the 4th of July is in actuality nothing less than honoring White Supremacists…according to the DNC. Truly, the best part of that unhinged lot never made it to a fertilized egg.

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

I see Drudge has picked up the story.
“But until last year, I mostly avoided speaking out against the climate scare. Partly that’s because I was embarrassed. After all, I am as guilty of alarmism as any other environmentalist. For years, I referred to climate change as an “existential” threat to human civilization, and called it a “crisis.”
But mostly I was scared. I remained quiet about the climate disinformation campaign because I was afraid of losing friends and funding. The few times I summoned the courage to defend climate science from those who misrepresent it I suffered harsh consequences. And so I mostly stood by and did next to nothing as my fellow environmentalists terrified the public.
I even stood by as people in the White House and many in the news media tried to destroy the reputation and career of an outstanding scientist, good man, and friend of mine, Roger Pielke, Jr., a lifelong progressive Democrat and environmentalist who testified in favor of carbon regulations. Why did they do that? Because his research proves natural disasters aren’t getting worse.
But then, last year, things spiraled out of control.”…
“I further hope that you’ll accept my apology”.
https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/2020/6/29/on-behalf-of-environmentalists-i-apologize-for-the-climate-scare
Rather than accept your apology, seek to change your wayward ways and the damage you have caused. A debt that may never get repaid in this lifetime.
“And in January, one out of five British children told pollsters they were having nightmares about climate change.
Whether or not you have children you must see how wrong this is. I admit I may be sensitive because I have a teenage daughter. After we talked about the science she was reassured. But her friends are deeply misinformed and thus, understandably, frightened.”
Scaring children is not cool. Perhaps your new book will “balance the books” and you will have repaid your debt to society. Hope your book sells well. You will need every penny you can scrape together as your enter your new erased life. I accept your apology and go undo the damage you have done, pilgrim.
And a word of advice: Don’t seek rehabilitation. Rehabilitate means to return to your former self. Now that you have crawled out of the darkness into the sunny side of the street, don’t go back to that evil place your formerly had your being.

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Gregory

30 June 2020

Hey, it’s easy to justify not destroying Mt. Rushmore… after all, Washington and Jefferson were notorious slave owners, but Lincoln and Teddy R. remain popular even with their white privilege and role in promoting structural racism.
But what about Stone Mountain? The site of the 2nd founding of the KKK and the dedication of the massive carving was on the 100th anniversary of Lincoln’s assassination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Mountain

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Mollie Hemingway with the scope on lastest Russian leaks. Seems oddly familiar.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/30/media-are-playing-games-yet-again-with-anonymous-russia-leaks/
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Well, someday Stone Mountain will be coming down. Don’t think the mob has the skills to do the job themselves now, or even getting close enough for spray paint. I guess we know if they tried by the number of bodies laying at the foot of the Stone when the morning sun comes up.
Who knows? It may be gone in two weeks.

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scenes

30 June 2020

re: Gregory@2:37
I rather like the idea of renaming Yale. 4chan has even gotten credit for getting the idea rolling.
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/06/28/cancel-yale-not-likely/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-college-formerly-known-as-yale-1470698364
Of course, given the value of the Yale ‘brand’, that ain’t gonna happen. Just watch for all the justifications about how that case is different.
I’m thinking ‘Floyd U’

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Who was it that called Mr. Floyd “George Forman” recently while showering respect and praise upon the deceased. Some Dem bigwig. Sounds like something Joy B would say. Was it Rev. Al?

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Mary Wanna

30 June 2020

Buh Bye Boogalo douchyboys,
“Facebook removes hundreds of boogaloo accounts for ‘promoting violence’ in coordinated takedown”

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fish

30 June 2020

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 30 June 2020 at 03:09 PM
Who was it that called Mr. Floyd “George Forman” recently while showering respect and praise upon the deceased. Some Dem bigwig. Sounds like something Joy B would say. Was it Rev. Al?
It was Mme Pelosi and she, after saying he would never be forgotten, called him “George Kirby“!
She really needs to be the GaffeMasters running mate……they would be endless low comedy!

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Fish @ 4:03 pm
No, not the Double Eyebrow Botox Queen (I counted four yesterday) and her George Kirby incoherent blabbing. It was about the same time. Maybe it was Fredo or James Clyburn. Anyway, water under the bridge now. We will never forgot you, George Kirby Foreman.
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Man of man, I love this woman more each day. Another female with big brass ones.
‘Press Sec. McEnany Utterly Destroys NYT During Briefing, Walks Out as They Scream’
“ McEnany, for her part, slammed The Times’ “absolutely irresponsible decision” to “falsely report that [Trump] was briefed on something that he, in fact, was not briefed on.”
She did not stop there, proceeding to highlight the newspaper’s abysmal record when it comes to reporting on matters related to Russia.
“And I really think that it’s time for the New York Times to step back and ask themselves why they’ve been wrong — so wrong, so often,” McEnany said.
(ROFLMAO) She specifically pointed out that the paper proclaimed “all 17 intel agencies had agreed on Russian interference, before having to issue a correction that it was only four agencies.”
McEnany also mentioned The Times’ 2017 report alleging, in her words, that “Trump campaign aides had repeated contacts with Russian intelligence,” as well as a 2019 column arguing that “the Trump campaign and Russia ‘had an overarching deal’ that the ‘quid of help in the campaign against Hillary … for the quo of a new pro-Russian foreign policy.”
After describing that preposterous accusation as an example of “the Russia hoax, which was investigated for three years with taxpayer dollars before ultimately getting an exoneration in the Mueller report,” McEnany described the “failed Russia reporting of The New York Times” as “inexcusable.”
Yet McEnany was still not finished with her epic beatdown.
“I think it’s time that The New York Times, and also The Washington Post, hand back their Pulitzers,” McEnany said.
Quote unquote. And she ain’t done by any means..

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Bill Tozer

30 June 2020

Oh Fish you will love this. Pushback begins.
‘Official Resolution Calls for Democratic Party To Change Name Over Racist Past’.
https://www.westernjournal.com/official-resolution-calls-democratic-party-change-name-racist-past/
Chomp, chomp. If you are not a gator, you are gator bait.

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Don Bessee

30 June 2020

Oh ya that’s going to help the crime victims of crazed drugged out homeless –
and other government agencies to respond to non-violent incidents, such as drug abuse and incidents related to mental health.
It would include diverting nonviolent calls for services, such as neighbor disputes and others from the LAPD to the appropriate non-law-enforcement agencies.
https://www.foxla.com/news/la-city-council-approves-first-step-in-replacing-lapd-with-community-responders-for-non-violent-calls
😉

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Don Bessee

30 June 2020

Respect for the law from a socialist what ya smokin there mayor –
Mayor Jenny Durkan is accusing Council Member Kshama Sawant of allowing hundreds of protesters into City Hall after hours and without following coronavirus health guidelines, marching protesters to the mayor’s home and encouraging protesters to occupy the city’s East Precinct, along with raising a handful of ethics concerns.
In an email to City Council President Lorena Gonzalez, the mayor argued that Sawant, a self-described socialist, is using her position as a city official “in violation of law” and for “recklessly” undermining other people’s safety “for political theatre.”
Durkan cited city law that allows the council to “punish or expel” a member for “disorderly or otherwise contemptuous behavior” — in this case spearheading a protest at Durkan’s home, which is supposed to be at a secret location due to a state confidentiality program and safety concerns. The mayor has received threats in connection with her previous role as U.S. attorney.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/seattle-mayor-durkan-city-council-investigate-possibly-expel-socialist-councilwoman
😉

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Don Bessee

30 June 2020

Does anyone actually watch cnn or msnbc? New records for FOX –
Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson Tonight drew a record 4.331 million viewers in the second quarter and 791,000 in the 25-54 demo, making it the number one program in all of cable news among both total viewers and demo for the first time since launch, according to the network and Nielsen Media Research. This comes as Fox News Channel wrapped the second quarter of 2020 with the largest audience in network history in both total day and primetime, Nielsen says.
FNC’s primetime lineup of Tucker Carlson Tonight and Hannity made cable news history with both programs breaking the all-time record set by Hannity in 1Q’20 for the highest-rated quarter for any cable news program. Both programs were the first cable news telecasts to deliver over 4 million total viewers for an entire quarter and bested that number again in the second consecutive quarter.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-tonight-draws-record-191922366.html
😉

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Walt

30 June 2020

Constantly getting tested for loss of marbles? Now who gets that test on a weekly basis?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/30/joe-biden-claims-hes-taken-cognitive-functioning-test-despite-no-record-of-one-in-december-exam/
““I’ve been tested and I’m constantly tested,” Biden responded.
“All you’ve got to do is watch me, and I can hardly wait to compare my cognitive capability to the cognitive capability of the man I’m running against,” he said.”
Trump will beat him like a redheaded stepchild,,,, with freckles.
Tuna Fingers Biden has no clue what meat grinder he’s about to walk into come debate night..
He will need hospice after the beating.

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Don Bessee

30 June 2020

That was the whole point morons, American jobs for American’s –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/30/business-group-complains-trumps-h-1b-reform-is-boosting-u-s-graduates/
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Gregory

30 June 2020

What’s wrong with this photo?
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/06/wi/ap/24/election-2020-joe-biden-wisconsin-june-17-2020-file-photo-democratic-presidential-candidate-vice-e1593548605396-640×480.jpg

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Don Bessee

30 June 2020

No shit Gregory, I see way to much of that in the local tourist zones etc. the workers too. We can not suffer another shut down of our local businesses. We have already lost too many.
My hottie has issues that means she has to be really protected and not just like the bad old days.
I do my masks, have tons of hand goo and alcohol wipes just for the car which is not a good thing for the car leather but we gotta do what we gotta do to protect our own vulnerables.
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scenes

01 July 2020

re: Gregory@11:23PM June 30, Year Zero
How else do you expect him to sniff hair?

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Bill Tozer

01 July 2020

We covered this before, but I have wondered what happened to Obama’s plan to abolish the suburbs. It didn’t go away.
JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO ABOLISH THE SUBURBS
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/joe-bidens-plan-to-abolish-the-suburbs.php

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fish

01 July 2020

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 01 July 2020 at 06:49 AM
I think it’ll be great when they AFFH into Truckee!

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scenes

01 July 2020

re: BillT@ 6:49PM July 1, Year Zero
Well, that’s a nice little story.
So in addition to squashing the first amendment via ‘hate speech’ law and by judicious use of internet monopolies run by the Mob…and the striking of the second amendment via Biden’s platform of gun control law (check it out: https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/, including putting all black rifles under NFA), we get national zoning law enforced by withdrawal of all large sources of federal funds.
I guess this is the ‘change’ part of ‘hope and change’.
You do have to appreciate the audacity of simply disarming the public. Obviously this has nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with holding power. That, and the huge expansion of immigrant voters you can expect should seal the deal.
Well played.

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fish

01 July 2020

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 01 July 2020 at 06:49 AM
JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO ABOLISH THE SUBURBS
As discussed in the article…..it’s not his plan! The GaffeMaster isn’t much more at this point than a doll with a string in his neck that people like Booker, Schumer, and VP Harris pull when they want something.

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Scott O

01 July 2020

re the Dems firearms plans – it confirms my suspicions that they know they’re not going to be able to go door to door and confiscate anything. Most of the blather boils down to taking money out of gun owners’ wallets every year in fees, licensing, etc.
Some of the proposals are really hilarious.
If you fail a background check (often this is just a govt screw up) the local police are supposed to ‘make sure’ you don’t then buy a gun illegally.
How is that accomplished?
If you are convicted of a ‘hate crime’ you would be barred from owning a firearm. And we can see how just being a conservative is soon to be a hate crime.
No more buying ‘gun parts’ by mail? Gee – could have sworn they promised not to go after ‘hunters’.
Per usual, the average voter has no clue about the un-Constitutional over-reach most of these proposals would require. If you can sue a firearms manufacturer for the miss-use or illegal use of the company’s legal product, why would this not extend to any company? If you can openly eliminate a citizen’s Constitutional rights due to a govt ‘finding’ (no hearing or court order needed) where does that stop?
They’re not so much coming for your firearms as they are for your wallet and your rights.
Just as the ‘race’ issue is being used now to push a socialist agenda, so will ‘gun control’ be used to eliminate your rights.

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fish

01 July 2020

Posted by: Scott O | 01 July 2020 at 09:04 AM
They will probably fail as badly with firearms as they have with drugs! I’m no longer concerned about this.
The left wants us as criminals…..time for us to embrace that!

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Paul Emery

01 July 2020

For your reading pleasure:
The Trump Dump continues. Down 16 on FiveThirtyEight , his lowest polling since Dec 2017.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo

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fish

01 July 2020

Now we’re talking……a little idiot lefty on idiot socialist political violence!

Seattle Mayor Moves to Expel Wacky Socialist Councilwoman Who Led Protest to Her House

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/06/30/seattle-mayor-moves-to-expel-from-council-wacky-socialist-who-led-protest-to-her-house-n591562

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Mary Wanna

01 July 2020

Circle of Buffoons Dream Girl. Time to move to Rifle, CO?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/qanon-gop-candidates-lauren-boebert-colorado-house-primary-160446428.html

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