[In the intro to the last Sandbox, my invitation to readers to discuss the dollar-value of human life went over like a turd in a punchbowl. It appears that the best approach to discussing the value of human lives is just to bloviate with a lot of virtue signalling thrown in. That's supposed to divert the reader from discovering that the writer has no idea what he's talking about. Public policies are supposed to be made with some regard to a broadly agreed on dollar-value of a human life, but only, I guess, if the public gives a damn. Oh well. gjr]

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440 responses to “Sandbox – 24jun20”
Democrats Call Army General That Saved Bosnian Muslims From Ethnic Cleansing βIslamaphobicβ
https://www.oann.com/democrats-call-army-general-that-saved-bosnian-muslims-from-ethnic-cleansing-islamaphobic/
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NO, it was not the riots it was the bars, got it!
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/06/28/minnesota-sees-spike-in-positive-covid-cases-for-younger-people/
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Neuter the cops and the outcome is preordained –
That is going to be the demise of the city.
Anti-crime guys are the guys are the guys who the real bad guys are looking out for. Anti-crime guys are going to drive around in not just unmarked cars. Theyβll come around in other cars, rentals that the city gets that you wouldnβt think are police cars.
When youβre a really bad guy, and Iβm talking about really bad guys, who wonβt think twice about taking another life. When they step out of the car, those were the cops who they are afraid of.
That is going to be the demise of the city.
Anti-crime guys are the guys are the guys who the real bad guys are looking out for. Anti-crime guys are going to drive around in not just unmarked cars. Theyβll come around in other cars, rentals that the city gets that you wouldnβt think are police cars.
When youβre a really bad guy, and Iβm talking about really bad guys, who wonβt think twice about taking another life. When they step out of the car, those were the cops who they are afraid of.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/28/nypd-detective-eliminating-undercover-police-officers-will-be-demise-of-nyc/
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Alt Right Wackos get punked by Borat.
Yelm Washington, Coeur d’Alene sister city?
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sacha-baron-cohen-far-right-rally-prank-1021609/
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Underreported news. COVID
While the media has focused mainly on Florida, Texas, and Arizona (The Trifecta, all R Governors), CA is getting slammed. More specifically, LA County. LA County as ten million people, Florida has 20 million. So, why is LA Countyβs numbers only ten-twelve thousand short of Floridaβs numbers. And this is looking at numbers coming in that are from two weeks ago.
Disneyland was asked to delay their reopening on Waltβs birthday or some anniversary in mid July cause the health officials knows LA is getting hammered right now.
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For your reading pleasure:
Trump down by nearly 16 in FiveThirtyEight average job approval polls. Looking more grim every day for the Trumpsters.
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Oh yeah link
https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/
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They want the State of Jeff to be carved out but don’t want DC to become a state.
https://www.alternet.org/2020/06/sen-tom-cottons-racist-diatribe-against-dc-statehood-exposed-the-ugly-underbelly-of-the-republican-party/
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Good one Mary State of Jefferson or whatever right?
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Posted by: Mary Wanna | 29 June 2020 at 10:56 AM
Ugh…..you pay for Alternet ……you’re dumber than I thought.
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Pay for Alternet, why?
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Thanks dumbass Trumper anti masker buffoons,
https://www.afar.com/magazine/europe-finally-set-to-reopen-but-not-to-us-travelers?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=062720%20EuropeNoUSTravelers&utm_term=Daily%20Wander%20%28Have%20opened%20newsletter%20before%29
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“The Washington Postβs global opinions editor Karen Attiah deleted tweets Sunday saying that βwhite women are luckyβ black people are βnot calling for revengeβ after listing various things she claimed white women are responsible for in the past.”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/29/the-washington-post-editor-karen-attiah-tweet-twitter-white-women-lucky-black-people-revenge/
No additional comment needed.
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Posted by: Mary Wanna | 29 June 2020 at 11:35 AM
Pay for Alternet, why?
Exactly…..
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MaryW 1056am – Exactly. And the Dems want DC to become a state while opposing SOJ as a new state. Your finding all this new and disturbing speaks to your familiarity with American history.
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DC isn’t even a big city. Simply cede the non-federal parts back to their respective states.
Of course, that doesn’t give you two senators, etc.
In the meantime, GoogleCIAAmazonKVMR keeps pushing, pushing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/06/29/twitch-suspends-donald-trumps-campaign-account
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in other news. White supremacist Nazi guy is arrested for spraying swastikas at graveyard. Last seen running with ‘stinkass’ stencils.
https://www.abc6.com/man-arrested-for-spray-painting-swastikas-at-providence-college/
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Posted by: scenes | 29 June 2020 at 12:37 PM
….so thats a member of the “Master Race”?
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re: Fish@12:43PM June 29, Year Zero.
“….so thats a member of the “Master Race”?’
What can I say? The Nazis probably have an HR department.
In any case, it’s just more work for these guys…..
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
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George
Do you really think that the State of Jefferson would be supported by the necessary majority in the Congress and Republicans in general throughout the country?
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Posted by: scenes | 29 June 2020 at 12:51 PM
What can I say? The Nazis probably have an HR department.
Eh….college summer intern maybe.
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Trump is done,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-2020-us-election-drop-out-fox-news-republican-a9592036.html
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Wow
Trump down by 14.8 in RCP averaged job approval polls. It’s his lowest since Jan 2018, two and a half years ago. His disapproval % is an astonishing 56%. The Rats will soon start jumping off the sinking Trump ship to save their butts for re-election.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
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PaulE 100pm – Snowball’s chance in hell. “Republicans in general”, a firm maybe. Some of the CS Repubs may be scared of aggravating the Dems in their push for DC statehood. But I’d be in favor of a fair trade, just like in ante-bellum days of the 1854 Kansas-Nebraska Act.
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Well that might suppress turnout to the advantage of the Prez. –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/poll-20-of-democrats-believe-joe-biden-has-some-form-of-dementia/
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A tweet from Joe
@JoeBiden
Today the President shared a video of people shouting βwhite powerβ and said they were βgreat.β Just like he did after Charlottesville.
Weβre in a battle for the soul of the nation β and the President has picked a side. But make no mistake: itβs a battle we will win.”
Yes Joe just like Charlottesville. Anybody here see the video? How in the hell could Trump have “missed it” right at the start into the video camera a carload of people shouting “white power”
“Trump thanked ‘great people’ shown in Twitter video in which a man chants ‘white power’”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 June 2020 at 03:25 PM
Covered yesterday Punch…….essentially Senior Citizen on Senior Citizen political violence at a gated golf community somewhere in Florida (you oughta look into it….maybe take up the game. Give you something to do after you fix the California Republican party). Somebody should vet Trumps retweets though, he sees a guy in a golf cart with Trump decals, Re-Elect Trump signs and a MAGA hat, the guy could be yelling “Hail Satan” and trump would give it a thumbs up because he doesn’t obsess over the details like lefty cancel/tattle culture.
This is really just a variation on the disavow discussion we had a week or so ago.
https://www.villages-news.com/2020/06/14/tempers-boil-over-as-democrats-square-off-with-trump-supporters-at-golf-cart-rally/
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Well fish you are now saying that Trump doesn’t “obsess over details” such as racist messages that he passes on with his endorsement.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 June 2020 at 04:18 PM
Yes Punchβ¦that’s what I’m saying. No wonder you became a musicianβ¦β¦poor reading skills.
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Got it fish that you agree with me that Trump forwarded racist messages. Thanks for responding.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 June 2020 at 04:48 PM
Yay Punchyβ¦β¦you winβ¦.you win!
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Gee look at all the young people getting sick, but at least the death rates are going down –
Los Angeles County may run out of hospital beds in the next two to three weeks because of a new surge in coronavirus infections dating to the period in which Black Lives Matter protests broke out.
Last week, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said that it was βhighly likelyβ that a new spike in cases was partly related to the protests and riots, in which tens of thousands of people filled crowded streets.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/los-angeles-coronavirus-surge-black-lives-matter/
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This one is not going away, not even close –
The documents, which were received through a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative-leaning group Judicial Watch, indicate the younger Biden took 411 domestic and international flights upon which the federal government provided security between June 2009 and May 2014. Listed among the destinations were 29 foreign countries, including five visits to China alone between 2009 and 2014.
One of those five visits, in particular, has raised concerns. In December 2013, Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two with his father to Beijing. The trip was part of an official state visit the then-vice president was making to the country amid escalating tensions with the United States over islands in the South China Sea.
Although it is unclear exactly what transpired during the visit, Hunter Biden entered into a lucrative business arrangement shortly afterward. Only 12 days after the trip, the younger Biden inked a multibillion-dollar deal with a subsidiary of the state-owned Bank of China.
The deal, which was the first of its kind, created Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) as a private equity fund to invest Chinese money overseas. Once BHR was up and running, the firm proceeded to invest heavily in energy and defense projects. Some of those investments, however, have caught the attention of congressional lawmakers, including, most notably, BHRβs investment in a company blacklisted by the U.S. government for suspicion of helping the Chinese government violate human rights and the fundβs purchase of an American firm with insight into military technology in 2015.
As BHRβs purchase of the latter required approval by the Obama administrationβs Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, the Senate Finance Committee has begun probing whether there was any conflict of interest in the matter. The Finance Committeeβs investigation still appears to be ongoing.
Hunter Biden, for his part, resigned from BHRβs board of director years last year amid public scrutiny. It is unclear, though, if he has kept his ten percent stake in the fund, which is estimated to be worth millions.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/secret-service-provided-hunter-biden-protection-on-more-than-400-flights/
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OH REALLY! American jobs for Americans –
βThe people coming on these [H-1B] visas have built this country,β Biden added.
βHe said the H-1Bs built this country? So the country didnβt exist before 1998? That is interesting,β responded Rosemary Jenks, policy director at NumbersUSA. If Biden is elected, she said:
I think we will see an increased number of parents realizing that their children will not do better than they did, and that is the antithesis of the American dreams. If many college graduates cannot get good jobs, well-paying jobs, they are not going to be as successful as their parents, and we will have reversed one of the foundational principles of America. β that we are a country of opportunity.
Weβre already seen that the most recent high school and college grads are looking at whatβs ahead of them and they are very insecure and they are very depressed. The question is how to they respond to that environment? They can take whatever job they can find, or do they rebel and go out and tear down statues?
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/06/29/joe-biden-h-1b-foreign-workers-built-this-country/
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PaulE 325pm – If someone were to yell ‘Black Power’ or ‘Black Lives Matter’, you surely would not identify him as a racist. Yet when some old white guy responds to screaming TDS sufferers with ‘White Power’, then his skin color comes into play, and he’s immediately identified as a racist and white supremacist. It’s always good to review the leftwing logic behind such discrimination – could you humor us with your assessment?
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George
Are you saying it was wise for Trump to send that message out to his millions of followers on his twitter list?
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George
“Black Lives Matter” is not a racist statement. It is an affirmation.
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Don @ 5:41 pm
βI think we will see an increased number of parents realizing that their children will not do better than they did, and that is the antithesis of the American dreams. If many college graduates cannot get good jobs, well-paying jobs, they are not going to be as successful as their parents, and we will have reversed one of the foundational principles of America. β that we are a country of opportunity.
Weβre already seen that the most recent high school and college grads are looking at whatβs ahead of them and they are very insecure and they are very depressed. The question is how to they respond to that environment? They can take whatever job they can find, or do they rebel and go out and tear down statues?β
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Ladies and gentlemen, we have ourselves a winner.
Those two paragraphs in quotes above is the beeβs knees. The plug in the volcano. What the late Pat Cadell brought to Trump was more important than any polling numbers. Pat uncovered that for the first time in America, people felt that they were leaving the next generation a country worse of that they inherited. Itβs part of the pact that makes us Americans; leaving the country in better shape. As Donβs link says, β I think we will see an increased number of parents realizing that their children will not do better than they did, and that is the antithesis of the American dreamsβ. That bodes for a foul populace.
What Pat could not figure out late in the race was why there was no break towards Trump with 4 weeks to go, then three weeks. The anger was still there, the discouragement that our pact as Americans with the next generation had been broken and the country is going downhill. Wrong way. Well, it broke alright.
That anger is still there. And Trump is still considered the outsider and will always be…unlike the other guy running for President.
Leaving a country worse off than you found it is not a legacy most salt of the earth folks want hung on them.
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PaulE 554pm – Are you saying that you thought it proper to ignore my questions, and ask another one instead? And are you saying that ‘White Lives Matter’ is a racist statement and not an affirmation?
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The dems are going to pay a price for going too far –
This same survey also shows presumptive Democrat presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden slipping somewhat since the April survey, dropping two percent from 48 percent then down to 46 percent now. President Donald Trump, the incumbent Republican running for re-election, also dropped a percent from 42 in April down to 41 now. Despite both Trump and Biden slipping slightly, the margin between them has also shrunk from 6 percent then to just 5 percent now.
The survey also oversampled Democrats, according to the local news outlet, meaning that Wolf and Biden both likely fare better in this poll than in reality.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/pandemic-blues-pennsylvania-democrat-gov-wolf-suffers-43-percent-swing-against-approval-rating/
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Gregory, Todd your favorite poll Rasmussen now has Trump down by 17 in their Trump approval poll. Do you still support their numbers now like you did a couple weeks ago? That’s the worst approval numbers he’s had since Dec ’17 on Rasmussen.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
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Trump has 29% black support in a Rasmussen poll. Trump will trounce Sleepy Joe.
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George
They were not chanting White Lives Matter they were shouting White Power. Do you support Trump broadcasting that message by sending in through twitter to millions of his followers? . Did you actually watch the video in question? Trump says he didn’t hear it which is not believable,
Watch the video George.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html
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Also ypou are talking job approval which has him down 13 today. But look! Ytump is up one over Biden in Wisconsin!
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He is up by 1 in that poll Todd. Glad you are paying attention to polls. I went directly to the Rasmussen site that shows him down by 17 by their definition. Here’s the link. It’s the history of what they term Trump approval index-history.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
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Here’s a quote from Trump from April that describes Trumps attitude about wearing masks.
WASHINGTON β President Donald Trump said Friday that he would choose not to wear a coronavirus mask because it would interfere with his ability to meet with foreign presidents, prime ministers and “dictators.”
“Somehow sitting in the Oval Office, behind that beautiful Resolute Desk,” Trump said, indicating he thought it would be uncomfortable wearing a mask as he met with “presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens β I donβt know, somehow I donβt see it for myself.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/03/coronavirus-trump-wont-wear-mask-because-foreign-leader-meetings/2945378001/
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 June 2020 at 08:07 PM
Are you saying that you would order a pizza with a swastika made from pepperoni Punch?
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fish-huh??????? Are you trying to be clever or smart? Please translate
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 June 2020 at 08:31 PM
Punch, are you trying to say that many suffer from scalp psoriasis without knowing?
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PaulE 705pm – reread my 551pm.
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