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[In the intro to the last Sandbox, my invitation to readers to discuss the dollar-value of human life went over like a turd in a punchbowl.  It appears that the best approach to discussing the value of human lives is just to bloviate with a lot of virtue signalling thrown in.  That's supposed to divert the reader from discovering that the writer has no idea what he's talking about.  Public policies are supposed to be made with some regard to a broadly agreed on dollar-value of a human life, but only, I guess, if the public gives a damn.  Oh well.  gjr]

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  1. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 746am – Mr Tozer, every so often we see published claims like the NYP post that you cite. Were even a smidgen of such a connection between Obama and Russiagate true, it would and should be a bombshell in our polity – news outlets worldwide would pick up on the story and shout it in their headlines in anticipation of its second party corroboration and the political, if not prosecutorial, events to follow. But there is none of that happening. This supposed revelation is successfully, if not intensely, ignored by literally everyone on the right and left. The Left’s deliberate dismissals of this we can, perhaps, easily explain away (but even there some progressive outlet might be willing to pick it up, if for nothing else save not winding up with egg on its face when/if the shit hits the fan). But why the deafening silence from the Right, especially from what shards remain of the Republican leadership?
    In this desperate election year, why do you think this “fresh evidence” is not causing a ripple? Is Obama’s involvement in Russiagate really so dead that nothing can resurrect it? Thoughts, anyone?

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Russiagate was to get rid of Trump. Pure and simple. Nothing more, nothing less.. The whole operation is now to be forgotten, like it never happened.
    It’s all about protecting Biden now. Gotta hide his obvious mental rot. Biden’s last “live” broadcast, was cut the second after he said “we have 120 million dead from the virus”.
    Biden could be in Hospice, and the LIBS would still be trying to get him elected.

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 28 June 2020 at 09:37 AM

    Hah….good one……!
    I saw a guy doing exactly the same thing. Ceptin he was wearing a Greek Fisherman cap instead of a MAGA hat. Man….those people are whack!

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  4. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Here you go Bill, keep trying…
    “WASHINGTON — Attorney General William P. Barr dismissed President Trump’s attempts to rebrand the Russia investigation as a criminal plot engineered by former President Barack Obama, saying on Monday that he expected no charges against either Mr. Obama or former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. as a result of an investigation into how their administration handled Russian election interference.
    “As long as I’m attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends,” Mr. Barr said”.

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    Since Russiagate has been orders of magnitude more destructive, expansive, and involved more extensive conspiracies and illegal acts than Watergate (one bungled burglary), why was the DoJ so aggressively involved in “partisan politics” then but not now? Aren’t the allegations and the attendant evidence gathered against Team Obama much more condemning (talk about blatant ‘abuse of power’) and actually beyond partisan politics in the same manner as apparently were those against Team Nixon?

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 28 June 2020 at 09:43 AM
    “As long as I’m attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends,” Mr. Barr said”.

    That’s good……he’s no Eric Holder……

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    I suppose this explains why our “Marys” and “Punchy’s” are so frantic about the COVID……

    Coronavirus Pandemic Led to Surge in Alzheimer’s Deaths

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-pandemic-led-to-surge-in-alzheimers-deaths-11593345601

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    AG Barr: ‘Obvious’ Potential For Fraud In Expanded Absentee Voting
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/ag-barr-obvious-potential-for-fraud-in-expanded-absentee-voting
    So, that’s we’re the 120 million dead number came from.
    Non compos mentis: “A lot of people, you have unnecessarily, now we have over 120 million dead from COVID.” —Joe Biden and Mary Wanna
    Opps. This should be posted under Dems’ BIG LIES. Mucho Culpra.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Where are the indictments George? Still waiting. Trump controls it all and still nothing. He doesn’t have much time cause things look pretty grim even by his own teams estimation.
    Trump Campaign Looks at Electoral Map and Doesn’t Like What It Sees
    As polls show President Trump significantly trailing his rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., his campaign is spending heavily in states, like Ohio, that it had hoped would not be competitive at all this year.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/trump-campaign-virus-protests-polls.html

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 June 2020 at 10:29 AM

    I hadn’t thought it possible but I now agree with our host that Trump has “talked himself out of the job”. I don’t agree with you so spare us your childish and premature “Thanks for agreeing with me” schtick.
    So I must now ask you publicly……should Biden win are you prepared to settle down, retire your pink pussy hat, and stop your incessant whining here at Rebanes Ruminations?

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Maybe I will, maybe I won’t fish. “Depends how how I’m a feeling” to quote Bob Dylan. You know free speech and all that stuff is kinda messy.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    “Obamagate,Russiagate”- “OK, so we got caught… BFD. It’s just politics. We will do better next time in the F.U. game…”

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 June 2020 at 10:53 AM
    Maybe I will, maybe I won’t fish. “Depends how how I’m a feeling” to quote Bob Dylan.

    Bob Dylan quotes…..last refuge of the Baby Boomer……mmm… I had hoped for better.
    But with Trump now likely gone….what could you possibly have to contribute here other than constantly asking your painfully obvious and open ended “gotcha” questions?
    What’s left for Paul Emery post Trump?

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  14. Walt Avatar

    Has Marty’s hateful kid taken mom/dad casket shopping yet?
    They might pick out a nice box,, and come undertaker day, the brown plastic ash container (good and cheap) is what gets tossed in the hole.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Liberals don’t like it when you give them a taste of their own medicine.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-st-louis-mayor-intimidate-defund-police-protesters-names-address-facebook-live
    “Missouri Democratic mayor accused of intimidating defund police protesters after reading names, partial addresses on livestream”

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    We can talk about the pitiful state of the Republican Party in California and how Conservatives don’t have a voice in our State because of that.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Punchy will take time to accept Obama as worse than Nixon, and it may take Biden to talk Trump into the office.
    The debates are coming, the debates are coming!

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1029am – Excellent question Paul. The Dems will indict at the drop of a hat, even on what turns out to be manufactured evidence, e.g. Mike Flynch. Apparently the Repubs require a frustratingly higher bar to indict. Note that the existing evidence is not being disputed, Barr just wants more of it.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Here you go Bill, keep trying..”
    Barr said a long time ago and has been steady consistent that he has no intention to look at either Joe Biden or Obama from the criminality- DOJ point of view. Durham is checking into people whose names we might recognize involved in malfeasance and violations, but not going after neither Obama or Biden. No political influence, no opening up new investigations into Biden. No way would have Barr ever opened an FBI investigation into Trump on the evidence presented. You can’t open up an FBI investigation unless there is evidence presented of wrong doing. And the DOJ cannot even prosecute any case they do not have a chance of winning. That is if you are doing it my the book. No fishing expeditions allowed. Barr is out to restore trust in the DOJ and FBI again, no matter whose toes are stepped on. Restore trust that will take decades to restore. Real Justice is seeking the truth and the truth-justice does not care about not opening an investigation or closing one down (based on verifiable available evidence at the time ) or one’s politics. Let the chips fall where they may.
    Comey is a familiar name. He sent an FBI agent to check out Steele’s story by interviewing Steele’s source of info he cited to the FBI. The agent came back and the relayed the main source used in the Dossier (and another) told him that Steele is full of shit, grossly embellishes things, and is not one to believed, he made it up, and “I never said that” and the Russian collusion thing was baloney. With that knowlege, the FISC warrant application was filed.
    No way would Barr allow that to happen on his watch. A man who does things by book,
    Barr has consistently also added the caveat “unless there is some big evidence uncovered…”
    Barr out. We are on it!…and supplying the Senate and House and the DOJ with findings for their files.
    PS: go fornicate thyself…again

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Back to that go nowhere line Emery? It just goes to show your Liberalism is as bad a virus as Kung Flu.. just more damaging.
    Proggyism has turned the big cities into shitholes, and then the spawn of the LIB moves out to spread shitholeism to the smaller communities. So the Repups have move out to leave you to your shitholeism. Hear the news? You VERY pretty Gavin Nuisance is planning on raising taxes again, and cutting your beloved (un)covered Ca. healthcare. ENJOY!

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry you can’t respond to tough questions without resorting to personal attacks Bill. That takes away the experience of a healthy dialogue with respectful give and take. That type if rhetoric is part of the Trump Legacy which hopefully soon be coming to an end. It will be the best thing for the Republican Party.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    There you go again Punchy, responding to attacks on Robert Cross and Mary Wanna in the first person.
    —————-
    Now why would the same folks who call Barr a political hack, part of the dictatorship, Trump’s goon, Trump’s Mobfia Goon, Henchman, and sending the military on peaceful protestors….while in the Sam Hill would Mary believe Barr now?? What, do you think he would fold under pressure like Sessions and most Republicans? Hardly. He knows what is going on. I know what’s going on. If you do ‘t have your head deeply implanted up your caboose, then it is plain as day to everybody else.
    Look what Barr the totalitarian thug Trump’s henchman goon just said!
    ‘Look Out! Bill Barr Strongly Attacks Media Spin on ‘Systemic Racism’ in NPR Interview
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2020/06/27/look-out-bill-barr-strongly-attacks-media-spin-systemic-racism-npr
    ————
    In other old news…
    DEMOCRATS
    Pelosi Pours $180,000 Into Facebook Ads While Calling for Advertisers to Boycott Site
    https://freebeacon.com/democrats/pelosi-pours-180000-into-facebook-ads-while-calling-for-advertisers-to-boycott-site/

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  23. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Waddlin’ Wally, thanks for your concern. Coincidentally, while shopping I found a casket for you.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/12/us-obesity-spike-brings-bigger-coffins-201312318849295816.html

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    A Coup Against Our Institutions
    The systematic campaign to undermine an incoming presidential administration through politicized investigations is a true constitutional crisis.
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/06/27/a-coup-against-our-institutions/

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  25. Walt Avatar

    No need. Marty,, I will be there to piss on your grave.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Tough questions he says. .That takes away the experience of a healthy dialogue with respectful give and take.” he says. I feel shame. Head hung low.
    I know, how about a game of tic-tac-tor. The only way to win that game is not to play,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmGXeAtWUw
    That takes away the experience of a healthy dialogue with respectful give and take.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer
  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 June 2020 at 11:37 AM
    We can talk about the pitiful state of the Republican Party in California and how Conservatives don’t have a voice in our State because of that.

    Hey….I’d forgotten about your project…..reconstituting the California Republican Party……giving “voice to the voiceless”. That would be a great project where you could roll up your sleeves and really throw yourself into.

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    The Riots and Protests Will Make Gun Ownership More Popular

    Crap……all those gun control bucks……down the crapper!
    https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2020/07/06/a-second-amendment-moment/

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  30. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Fish@1:49PM June 28, Year Zero.
    “Hey….I’d forgotten about your project…..reconstituting the California Republican Party”
    Dunno what the point is, the superdoopermajority California government has kicked amazing ass in it’s own state, no need for improvement.
    Average SAT score: California 1076 Alabama SAT: 1166
    Firearms death rate / 100,000: California: 7.5 Arizona: 5
    Pollution Health Risk Ranking: California: #19 South Dakota: #7
    To me, it’s the perfect chance for the Left to strut it’s stuff. No one can take credit for the beach, so the rest of it is up to the California gubmint.
    The real question is whether CA can be #1 for lootings, mob mayhem, cancel culture, communists in coffee shops. There’s some hope in that case.

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  31. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    fish: “Crap……all those gun control bucks……down the crapper!”
    The irony of the Blue Mob buying guns to protect itself from itself is not lost on me.
    Oh wait, hang on. The real problem is some sort of boogaloo Nazi “stinkass” sign guy driving a Challenger.
    At least with Tyrannosaur arms, it’s hard to ever shoot yourself.

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 28 June 2020 at 02:07 PM
    Well I thought Punchy’s concern for voiceless Republicans was touching. Far less disturbing than the post 2016 Clinton election victory rehab camps that he discussed with Gregory.

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  33. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    GR 1155am
    Barr and Durham also don’t leak like a sieve they way Mueller and Company did.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    “No FACTS” Proggy press is at it again.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/27/washington-post-claims-most-dangerous-cities-america-arent-run-democrats/
    The Washington Post tried to push back on President Donald Trump’s claim that the most dangerous cities in America are run by Democrats – but the graph provided largely proved Trump’s point.
    “Trump said Wednesday that “every one” of America’s “20 most dangerous” cities “are Democrat run.” WaPo’s analysis headline wrote that “Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all run by Democrats. They aren’t.”
    The article, however, did not provide a single city run by a Republican in the top 20 most violent cities per capita. According to data WaPo gathered to disprove Trump, 19 of the 20 cities with the most violent crime per 10,000 residents are run by Democrats. The lone city on the per capita list not run by a Democrat is run by an Independent.”

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  35. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Healthy Dialogue Expert, Paul Emery sez: “That takes away the experience of a healthy dialogue with respectful give and take.”
    roflmao. ow! my sides!
    for the general gallery, what would be a good replacement for this evil statue?
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1277111439572873216

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  36. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Wally: piss on my grave? Thank you, that urea will keep the grass extra green!

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Nope, help keep the grass away.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jonathan Turley: Think twice about why the media attacks William Barr
    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/504827-think-twice-about-why-the-media-attacks-william-barr

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 28 June 2020 at 03:55 PM
    First you call Chinese people “chinks” …..And today you’re hating on whites? Mexicans next?
    Do your neighbors know how racist you are?

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    re: Education and the courts. Nice White Privilege Graph at the end.
    GAMING OUT THE LEFT’S RACE STRATEGY FROM HERE
    “But the problem for the left is that at Berkeley, Harvard, and other elite universities, not enough officially sanctioned minorities (meaning blacks and hispanics) score well enough to qualify for admission on a straight-up basis, while too many Asians (who are increasingly considered “white” by the identity-mongers) score so highly on the SATs that Harvard, Yale, UC Berkeley, and other elite universities could fill perhaps 40 percent of their freshman classes right now with Asians. UCLA has for a while now been said to be the “University of Caucasians Lost among Asians.”
    Meanwhile, there is a torpedo in the water heading for the current “diversity” regime of race-based preferences. I suspect that the drive to jettison the SAT is a pre-emptive move in anticipation of an eventual adverse Supreme Court ruling in the lawsuit over Harvard’s discrimination against Asian applicants. If the regime of “diversity” and affirmative action admission is to survive, colleges will have to come up with a new scheme of “holistic” admission screening to get around the problem of meritocracy. Better to get a head start.“
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/gaming-out-the-lefts-race-strategy-from-here.php

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “First you call Chinese people “chinks“”
    Not once, but twice. First time was a mistake. Second time is a habit.

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  42. L Avatar
    L

    Mary @ 3:55- I’d join Walt, but when I got out of the Army, I swore I’d never wait in line again…

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  43. Walt Avatar

    @L,,🤣🤣

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The details about Hillary’s “lead” in the polls in ’16. Looks pretty grim.
    Biden currently leads by 9.6 over Trump four months before the election. Here’s the scoop on Hillary in ’16
    “some people have dismissed Biden’s lead by pointing out that Hillary Clinton also led in most polls of the 2016 election (Clinton, obviously, ended up losing to Trump). While this is true, Clinton’s lead was much smaller. Applying our current polling-average methodology to 2016 polls, Clinton led national polls by an average of about 4.0 points four months before the 2016 election, and 3.8 points on Election Day itself. So while a normal-sized polling error was enough to throw the 2016 election to Trump, it would take a much bigger — and much unlikelier — polling error for Trump to be ahead right now.
    Of course, Trump became president because he won the Electoral College despite losing the national popular vote. But if Biden wins the popular vote by 9.6 points, his current lead, Trump would be extremely unlikely to pull off the same trick. In our state-by-state polling averages, Biden currently leads in states worth 368 electoral votes, far more than the 270 needed to win.”
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-bidens-polling-lead-is-different-from-clintons-in-2016/

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Here Emery, No voter fraud? And cheat by mail no less.
    Now what were you saying about it “just not happening”???
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/28/new-jersey-democrats-charged-mail-in-voter-fraud/
    “Two Paterson, New Jersey councilmen and two men linked to a councilmen’s campaign have been charged with election fraud, mail-in voting fraud, and illegal possession of mail-in ballots.
    Late last week, New Jersey’s Attorney General Gurbir Grewal announced election fraud charges against Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson (D), Councilman-elect Alex Mendez (D), Shelim Khalique, and Abu Razyen.”
    And what a surprise!! They are DEMOCRATS…..

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Still shilling for the mentally ill.
    Biden can’t even for a complete sentence anymore.
    The debates are going to be painful to watch.

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Bill Barr on long interview discussing different topics and current events.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=_HVqRE-6bkc&feature=emb_logo

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  48. Walt Avatar

    Then there is this new kid on the block.. It will be fun to see him win.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/28/exclusive-madison-cawthorn-north-carolina/#disqus_thread

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