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[The value of anything is highly subjective, always determined by a 'seller' and 'buyer' when they strike a deal.  Therefore the value of any given 'thing', e.g. human life, varies according to who is the human and who is the 'buyer'.  Any values set by third parties with no skin in the game are arbitrary and quickly circumvented by/in markets.  So consider the back window yellow diamond sign that reads 'Drive carefully, Baby inside', and another one reading 'Drive carefully, young PhD in neuro-science inside', or even one that reads 'Drive carefully, Community organizer inside'.  How would you rate the implied value of these lives?  to you? to society? gjr]

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365 responses to “Sandbox – 18jun20”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Grammar
    So do you or don’t you.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps. Year Zero @ 3:04 pm link.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj2iGAifSNI

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I thought you might enjoy a night out fish. I produce all kinds of concerts ,rock ‘n’ roll ,blues ,jazz ,soul music country music, Bluegrass, Celtic, singer songwriters you name it. Just trying to do something nice for you.

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “So do you or don’t you.”
    Define ‘mask’ and read the statements I’ve already made.

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The FBI confirms early report it was just a door opening handle that broke off –
    The FBI has determined that a noose found in NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace’s garage at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday had been there since at least last year, according to the bureau.
    A statement issued by U.S. Attorney Jay E. Town said that an investigation has concluded that no federal crime was committed.
    “The FBI learned that garage number 4, where the noose was found, was assigned to Bubba Wallace last week. The investigation also revealed evidence, including authentic video confirmed by NASCAR, that the noose found in garage number 4 was in that garage as early as October 2019,” the bureau said. “Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week.”
    Further details were not immediately released. The FBI said no charges would be pursued in relation to the incident.
    “The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime, NASCAR said in a release after the findings. “The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/auto/fbi-noose-bubba-wallace-nascar-garage
    😉

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  6. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Trump has found his J. Edgar,
    “According to his prepared remarks, Elias will say that at Barr’s direction, the antitrust division launched 10 full-scale reviews of merger activity in the marijuana industry that the division’s head, Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim, acknowledged were motivated by dislike of the industry “on the fifth floor,” where Barr’s office is located. He also plans to describe how staff were hastily ordered to initiate an investigation into major U.S. automakers that had entered a deal with the state of California to impose stringent emissions standards, the day after Trump tweeted about them.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/democrats-to-subpoena-william-barr/2020/06/23/2fd49260-b558-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Paul out playing for chump change again?

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Can’t you just picture Punchy with his fanny pack tape recorder holding a long old time microphone thrust in your face interviewing RR,s? , Fish, Todd, Walt, Dr. Rebane or anyone else who is up to be interviewed today….i.e., anyone willing to play with the Crack News Director at the moment. Sometimes he has to repost three times over a couple of days to get an interview. Not really a truth seeker as much as looking to argue with somebody, anybody. Your turn in the penalty box. Thanks for babysitting.
    I have a headache, dear. Can you talk to the man knocking at the door for us today. Thanks for taking one for the team. Wonder what Scott O or Walt thinks of the unmasked crisis?

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Breaking the law again Emery? Gig work is still illegal.
    Please name your employer.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 June 2020 at 03:11 PM
    I thought you might enjoy a night out fish. I produce all kinds of concerts ,rock ‘n’ roll ,blues ,jazz ,soul music country music, Bluegrass, Celtic, singer songwriters you name it. Just trying to do something nice for you.

    No need Punch…..my social life is fine…..actually a little too fine. I could use a weekend off at home.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 23 June 2020 at 03:28 PM
    Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim, acknowledged were motivated by dislike of the industry “on the fifth floor,” where Barr’s office is located.

    i take it that you were similarly upset when O’Dummy and Holder went after the firearms industry?

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I am the producer of he events Walt. it is my business-Paul Emery Presents. You’re grasping at straws. My invite extends to you-two tickets to any of my shows, once they begin again.

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Give the tickets to these idiots… They need something to do.
    11:03 a.m. — A caller reported 25 to 30 protesters blocking traffic and hitting vehicles in the 100 block of South Auburn Street. A second caller reported they were running down the street and getting in front of vehicles. A woman reported protesters yelled at her and pounded on her vehicle. Another woman said someone took her photo and threatened to harass her business when she asked if they had a permit to block the road.
    Think they are of the Tea Party type Emery? Or your feril LIB spawn?

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  14. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT@3:29 23 June Year Zero.
    “i.e., anyone willing to play with the Crack News Director at the moment. ”
    Kind of a bummer really, I think the efficacy of masks is an interesting question. It’s not only the material and fit, but the environment they are worn. Obviously the urgent care with coughing urchins is a different situation than hiking (or any outdoor situation). These people with the stagecoach robber masks are a sight to behold, but nothing tops the nose-showing people…or the folks who just stomp around with one hanging around their neck.
    As usual, in a politically charged area, at least for 1/2 of us, it’s largely virtue signalling. After all the kneeling and masking and Trump polling, I’m losing the will to live.

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  15. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    I’m sure everybody has seen this.
    https://www.rt.com/news/491127-looney-tunes-gun-ban/
    But I do have to wonder if Elmer Fudd is now the Gwim Weaper?

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: the Gwin Weaver.
    Yosemite Sam and his pistols cannot be separated. And Pecos Bill could lasso anything with his noose. Even once threw a tornado down and jumped on its back. Remnants of the Pecos Bill days can still be found in Oakland Parks and used for pull down straps on metal garage doors.
    Call it residue from the tornado days. How un-PC. And Huckleberry Hound was a good cop!! To the cutting room floor for the both of them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7kFBEZfjM8

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Holy Quaintytown! Now they are going after Ward. Not Ward! He is a male pig!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRfs8LD-GS8
    Gee Wally, that was kinda creepy.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    And the Proggys wonder why the bankrupt press is bankrupt?
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/23/court-transcripts-demonstrate-bankrupt-mcclatchy-mischaracterized-devin-nunes-twitter-lawsuit-proceedings/
    When the shit you pass off as “fact” is just that. A big steaming pile. And they expect people to pay for fake news?
    Even the local LIB rag is on life support.. Things sure when down hill on skates when the LIBS got an editor back in there after Akerman.

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  19. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Who did the “caller” call Walt? Where did you get the info? O thing at The Union orYuba net

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Eating their own is fun to watch –
    NY Times’ Maggie Haberman slammed by Biden supporters for calling him a ‘very flawed’ candidate
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-times-maggie-haberman-slammed-biden-very-flawed-candidate
    😉

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: The Renegade Unmasked Brigade.
    A HEROINE FOR OUR TIME
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/a-heroine-for-our-time.php
    Oh boy. If they ever needed a reason to hate South Dakota after Standing Rock, Trump is setting off fireworks on the 4th of July at Mt. Rushmore!! Man the battle stations. Teddy Roosevelt is up there on the face of the mountain to boot. Try to tear down Teddy and George and Thomas and Honest Ave, bitches. Incoming on South Dakota! Man the battle stations.
    If any of your haters or good guys ever make it to South Dakota, your should check out the Crazy Horse Memorial. Started about the same time as Mt Rushmore, will take decades to finish.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFB1Ic1PMk
    And of course, lest I be remiss, to take this opportunity that the one man in the Western Hemisphere to ever bring home the gold in the Olympics 10,000 meter race was from South Dakota. Billy Mills, who calls the Sacramento area is home. Nice man.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mixing it up. Meme first, then Daily Quotes. Opps, two memes first.
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000../10157482647715914/?
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157482506760914/?
    Insight: “Let the laws be clear, uniform and precise; to interpret laws is almost always to corrupt them.” —Voltaire (1694-1778)
    For the record: “It is soft bigotry to excuse lawlessness on the basis of race. If you regard all people equal in God’s eyes, then you don’t assess their conduct differently based on their race. Nor do you give white social justice liberals a pass because they claim to be championing minorities.” —David Limbaugh
    Upright: “Let’s be clear, the mobs pulling down statues make no distinction between Confederate and Union, slave-trader or abolitionist, secessionist or pro-Union. They make no distinction between American, Spanish, or Cherokee. They do not care if the monument was erected in the nineteenth century or the twenty-first. … Conservatives should reject the entire notion that tearing down monuments, whether to Confederates or conquistadors, can ever be considered salutary or even conservative in any meaningful sense. To do so would be to accept the left’s corrupted view of American history, which demands we destroy all reminders of our sinful past.” —John Daniel Davidson
    Alpha jackass: “Yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down. They are a form of white supremacy. Always have been. In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide, and blend in, guess where they went? EGYPT! Not Denmark. Tear them down.” —Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King
    Non compos mentis: “Latinos are black. … We have to have conversations around ‘colorism,’ and we have to have conversations around the African and indigenous roots from which we come and how that’s reflected in systems of power.” —Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    And last… “The media has spent more time reporting on President Trump’s rally in Tulsa than a 3 year old boy who was shot & killed in Chicago. That should tell you everything you need to know about their priorities.” —Charlie Kirk
    Hmmm. Maybe that should of gone under ‘letters from the Revolution’ or ‘reflections on racism, no time to decide’ or Spring Time for the Great Divide’.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    There is a price to pay for coddling anarchists –
    Billion-dollar investment firm leaving Seattle amid ‘unrest’
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/seattle-chop-smead-capital-management-moving-to-phoenix
    😉

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  24. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    More bad news for the TDS set –
    “As we have previously disclosed, beginning in January 2020, the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri [EDMO] has been conducting a review of the Michael T. Flynn investigation,” Sherwin and assistant U.S. Attorney Jocelyn Ballantine wrote. “The enclosed document was obtained and analyzed by USA EDMO during the course of its review.”
    “This page of notes was taken by former Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok,” they continued. “While the page itself is undated; we believe that the notes were taken in early January 2017, possibly between January 3 and January 5.”
    They added: “These materials are covered by the Protective Order entered by the Court on February 21, 2018; additional documents may be forthcoming.”
    Powell told Fox News she could not share the contents of the documents due to the protective order, but confirmed that she received nearly two pages of hand-written notes, which were heavily redacted.
    “The few notes produced today do further exonerate General Flynn,” Powell told Fox News Tuesday.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newly-uncovered-strzok-notes-turned-over-flynn-lawyer
    😉

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  25. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Sorry Don the Troll, you got punked again by alt right media,
    “SEATTLE–(BUSINESS WIRE)–The following is a statement from Cole Smead, President of Smead Capital Management:
    Why We Moved
    The decision to relocate from Seattle to Phoenix was not a reactionary move caused by any of the events of the past several months. As stock pickers, we continually evaluate our own business just as we would any of the companies that our clients own in their portfolios or the opportunities that the stock market presents us with for new investment. We took great care and deliberation in making this decision to relocate, which we began mentally exploring as early as two years ago. We announced our decision to move to Phoenix internally to our staff in January, long before COVID shutdowns or nationwide protests made their way to Seattle. Put simply, nothing happening or being reported in the news right now had any weight in our decision to relocate from Seattle to Phoenix.
    We love Seattle as well as the relationships and the experiences it has given us.”

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    So you think they would say anything different while surrounded by the riotous mob? They still have to work and live there until moved. LOL
    😉

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    re: Seattle to Phoenix.
    “We love Seattle as well as the relationships and the experiences it has given us.”
    Very gracious of them
    They still are leaving Seattle in the rear view mirror. Nothing to do with Seattle’s high city taxes and anti-business climate. Seattle is a great place. Bluest skies are in Seattle, as the song goes. Love it.
    But, adios amingos e amingas. Long time no come see. Beautiful area you got their. Take the ferry to Victoria Island or Vancouver, BC. Nice Olympia Rainforest. Love ya. See ya later. Always keep you in our hearts. Too hip, gotta go. Chao.

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  28. Scott O Avatar

    Don B 6:49 – re Libby Schaaf: “Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf suggested on Tuesday that police officers should be replaced by public employees who can respond to traumatic scenes and other situations she described as unrelated to law enforcement.
    You mean drunk driving and passing bad bills are ‘unrelated’ to law enforcement?
    We are way past the tipping point.
    Just think – pretty soon Biden can be president over this crap.
    He’ll know what to do!

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    And here I thought we’d put the issue of masks to bed some time ago. The Left (e.g. PaulE) demands a yes/no answer to a question the real answer to which is depends on more factors that we can shake a stick at. It’s all a matter of probabilities of stopping the spread from an infected person, to preventing getting infected in the public square. And here’s the fact of the matter that every should realize – the C19 transmission process is so complex that NO ONE knows what the various (and yes, there are many of them) probabilities are. Moreover, NO ONE has the time, money, or physical means to even take a ‘scientific’ look at the problem. So anyone who asks whether ‘Dr Fauci was right/wrong’ about wearing masks is simply not clear on what’s involved. But that doesn’t stop Fauci et al from saying yes/no from time to time as the PR situation demands.
    So put a mask on if you want the probabilities to be some unknown bit in your favor, or don’t. But for heavens sake quit trying to demand a simple answer to every realworld question that comes along – it ain’t gonna happen (unless you have the naivete of a child).

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Dr Fauci was chosen by Trump to head up the strategic program of how do deal with the pandemic. Should he be fired? If not him who should be responsible for determining and issuing guidelines of behavior to mitigate the effects of COVID19?

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  31. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @711 Want a Slurpee with that?
    unless you have the naivete of a child
    Well that may be the case or a senior issue it could well be feigned. LOL
    😉

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Would you gather in a venue crowded with people without masks like the crowd that greeted Trump today in Arizona knowing Arizona currently has the biggest increase in infections in the country?

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 23 June 2020 at 06:05 PM
    relocate from Seattle to Phoenix.
    We love Seattle as well as the relationships and the experiences it has given us.”

    It’s totes adorbs that you fall for the marketing campaign.
    I guess the purveyor of a glossy bird cage liner publication might be more susceptible to that sort of things!

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Nice try Emery,, at least Trump IS having rallies.
    Biden can’t find his way out of the basement.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE – I’m not much of ‘gather in crowds’ kinda guy, most certainly not to go to a political rally. But given my age, I most likely will tilt the probabilities in my favor a bit with a mask if I suddenly find myself in crowd. But Fauci has given no public evidence that he knows anything more about the probabilities involved than do I. But people like you want definite answers, and it’s his job to give them, even if he has to change them later. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Biden doesn’t need rallies Walt. He is rising in the polls every day by doing nothing. Everytime Trump speaks he loses support. What an embarrassment Tulsa was. The venue was only a third full and they dismantled the “overflow” venue they constructed outside that only had a dozen people seated. What was it he said? He had 2 million reservations? Ha

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 June 2020 at 07:43 PM
    YES…….that’s the crack news…..errr….person ….yes “newsperson” whose skills and intellect I’ve come to appreciate.
    Always looking past the obvious……a true news…..craftsman.

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 743pm – Do you have any evidence that he didn’t have overflow reservations that were made by non-attending leftwingers?

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What out folks, the mountain is ready to blow! He’s all wound up and ready to blow his lid.
    ——
    What you should be asking yourself Siri is why the Republicans stick with such a blithering idiot as Trump. Why can’t they nominate a conservative with intelligent compassionate values? They do exist. Instead they stick with Trump who is going to lose because he can’t help being an idiot. His latest thing saying he was going to cut back on testing was unbelievably stupid and then he tries to say it was a joke. Well it’s not a joke to the people who are sick and dying from this virus and he doesn’t seem to care.
    Posted by: paul emery | 21 June 2020 at 09:42 PM
    Paul Emery
    Sp
    What you should ask yourself fish.
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 June 2020 at 09:44 PM
    Yep Fish, you are doing politicking all wrong. You are asking the wrong questions. The question(s) you should be asking yourself is ‘how you can even think of Trump without the need to vomit?” Same question applies to all topics, great and small.
    ————-
    Re: SEATTLE: Seattle! I forgot the most spectacle views of Mt Rainer and the Three Sisters, but Mt Rainer is the big one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkHy3FA1eCU
    Ok, they shot it on a typical day but Summer is nice. They really have blue skies. That’s when they like to go to war.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What was it Biden said when he was saying he wears his American flag on the floor? Then repeated on the floor pointing down to his golden haired legs. Did he mean the Senate floor or does he have it pinned to the bottom or his shoe?
    They say Biden had so many misstatements, lies, mischaracterizations, falsehoods, and gaffes in just one hour today that it would take a three hour segment just to break it all down and go over it.
    But, that’s not any of my business. That’s just ole lunch bucket Joe.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Your sure going to look like the real gold plated idiot when Trump wins. What will you be saying then Emery? “Uh,, ummmm,,, just reporting what was reported… It’s not my problem it was all wrong.”
    Will that be your excuse Emery? Please confirm that.
    Biden is an empty shell. Brain damaged.
    You all for higher taxes Emery? Massive return of choking regulations? And of course, your little LIBSHITS running the streets by mob rule… You Proggys can’t even control them now.

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  42. Walt Avatar

    LOL Lefties,, replace the cops with “social workers”
    What a brilliant idea.
    “Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf suggested on Tuesday that police officers should be replaced by public employees who can respond to traumatic scenes and other situations she described as unrelated to law enforcement.
    “We are excited, as many cities are, to reimagine public safety,” Schaaf said during a call with three other mayors and Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif., “and that means not just to reform the police, but to replace the police with more trauma-informed and care-based, community-led responses that really don’t warrant a badge and a gun.”
    Yup,, there is an election winning plan.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Here Emery,, I’m not the only one seeing Joe MIA
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/23/exclusive-tom-cotton-launches-minnesota-ad-connecting-joe-biden-to-leftist-mobs/
    ““The woke liberal mob is tearing down statues and causing chaos. If Joe Biden is elected, we’ll have this anarchy in every city. Joe Biden is too weak to stand up to the mob and he can’t be trusted to lead,””

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    Thanks so much for reposting my June 21 9:42. That means more people will read it. It’s quite brilliant I might add. I really appreciate it and George’s readers do as well.
    Yeah Joe doesn’t need to do anything because Trump will just defeat himself. He’s about ready to fire his campaign manager and I can’t imagine who would want that job. Are you interested?

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Yeah George there were some dirty tricks involved but the reality is that only 6000 or so supporters showed up out of what Trump estimated to be 2 Million reservations. Really George, do the math. The event was a dud and a failure and Trump looked like an idiot with his statement that he was ordering a slowdown in testing because it affected the numbers. What a weirdo.
    Biden doesn’t have to do anything.

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    As to your 7:40
    Is it not Trumps job to provide the leadership so we can effectively navigate thru this terrible situation? Early on Trump said this was a War and he is Commander in Chief. Does that not imply that it is his responsibility to provide the leadership. I’m not going to ask you whether you are satisfied with his effort. I don’t want to embarrass you.

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  47. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “Is it not Trumps job to provide the leadership so we can effectively navigate thru this terrible situation?”
    Which terrible situation? The Chinese caused virus or the one where your allies are burning, getting people fired, tearing down, boycotting, looting?
    I admit that it’s one way to win an election. Vote for Biden or we kill your dog.
    Paul, you and your people never had any intention of letting a normal election occur. Any smidgen of morality you might have claimed is long gone.

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