365 responses to “Sandbox – 18jun20”

1. 

   George Rebane

   19 June 2020

   scenes 936pm – A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates with the winnings going pro-rata to the winners’ designated charities. No one bit.

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   Todd Juvinall

   19 June 2020

   Robert Cross | 19 June 2020 at 09:15 AM
   Hutus and Tutsi’s were both black tribes and they committed genocide against each other to the tune of a million people. Please tell us which were rightwing?

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   George Rebane

   19 June 2020

   RobertC 915am – Your continued attempts to engage in a real discussion are admirable, but still pathetic. But let’s give it a try.
   It is the historical Left, starting with the Bolshevik Revolution, that started calling Germany’s nationalist socialists the Right. Why? Because they competed for power all over west Europe with the international socialists, i.e. communists. The press at the time was already leaning toward the communists and fell into line, academe was next, and so the misunderstanding continues to this day that Hitler was the posterchild rightwinger. More nuanced historians have long disputed this jaundiced labeling. The bottom line is that the Left is an umbrella label that covers all collectivist ideologies – belief systems of governance which promote governments by the elites, governments that grow and control ever larger sectors of society in which the individual is diminished and consigned to membership in a class to be homogeneously disposed of and upon. As RR has pointed out for years, the correct understanding of the ‘Right’ label is one under which ideologies gather that celebrate the individual, free enterprise, open markets, capitalism to organize economies, and the reduction of governments to function only in the few spheres where people need to form minimal collectives – e.g. the military, maintenance of major infrastructure used in common, agencies for food and medical safety, … . The hallmark of a rightist is that he always seeks new ways to minimize the public sector (including corporatism), and maximize the private sector. I know that this is a lot for a leftist to digest, but give it a try. Remember, you don’t have to accept a rightist ideology, but only understand the distinction between Right and Left in order to productively participate in the discussion. More here –
   https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/02/ideologies-and-governance-a-structured-look.html
   And none of this elevates the Republican Party as having cracked the code on perfecting rightwing governance. In fact, they are currently a very lame repository for the political allegiances of the Right, but a hell of a lot better than the Democrats, who are in a mad rush toward a fundamental transformation of America using the playbook from the Bolshevik Revolution. (Now why do I see images of water off a duck’s back?)

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4. 

   Scott O

   19 June 2020

   George 9:49 – “A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates…”
   A couple of months of national and world events right now scare me off of predicting anything to any degree of certainty.
   Look at what happened to one of the former top VP possibles in the last few weeks.
   ‘Hero to zero’ Amy.
   At this point, I wouldn’t rule out Biden picking Stacey Abrams. Her greatest asset would be that she’d be the best insurance Biden would have against being edged out once he’s elected. Wasn’t that Biden’s best quality as a VP pick?

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   scenes

   19 June 2020

   ” A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates with the winnings going pro-rata to the winners’ designated charities. ”
   I think I’ll find an online betting site and put in some Rice money. The designated charity will be ‘me’. She’s the right race to please the (D) base, we live in our new race-based world after all, but doesn’t look black enough to scare off the independents. She’s already said that she’ll do it, plus she’ll be backed by the Deep State and MSM.
   There’s no sure things in this world, but +550 seems pretty good on this one.

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6. 

   Bill Tozer

   19 June 2020

   Daily Quotes
   Insight: “All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.” —Ellen Glasgow (1873-1945)
   Observations: “Once a cultural revolution gets going, there can be no contextualization of the past, no allowance for human frailty, no consideration of weighing evil vs. good. Eventually, the architects of cultural upheavals always make two miscalculations. One, they presume that destroying things will never apply to themselves, given their loud virtue signaling. Two, if they are fingered by the mob, they assume they can somehow use their clout and influence to win exemption. In other words, once cultural revolutions turn anarchic and eat their own, they lose support. When quiet sympathizers conclude that they too may targeted, to survive they turn on their former icons.” —Victor Davis Hanson
   The bottom line: “Gender identity is not tied to biological sex. Trans activists will say as much. To expand the term, Gorsuch emptied the term of any stable meaning. It is circuitous nonsense and a metaphysical bait and switch. He may not have intended this, but it’s what he did.” —Andrew T. Walker
   The sad truth: “This week the Supreme Court did more damage to the rule of law and the Constitution than the rioters in the streets.” —Mark Levin
   For the record: “Stop lecturing me. [Democrats] had eight years under President Obama to do the things in the Justice and Policing Act — and 90% of it you never brought up.” —Senator Lindsey Graham
   Demo-gogues: “Eight years ago this week, we protected young people who were raised as part of our American family from deportation. Today, I’m happy for them, their families, and all of us. We may look different and come from everywhere, but what makes us American are our shared ideals and now to stand up for those ideals, we have to move forward and elect @JoeBiden and a Democratic Congress that does its job, protects DREAMers, and finally creates a system that’s truly worthy of this nation of immigrants once and for all.” —Barack Obama
   Grand delusions: “The Supreme Court — who would’ve thought would have so many good decisions in one week?” —Chuck Schumer
   Non compos mentis: “You ought to marry into a family of 5 or more sisters… You know why that’s the reason? One of them always loves ya.” —Joe Biden
   And last… “For the last 60 years, American liberals have promised African Americans that their policies would make things better. They were wrong and their policies have failed miserably. That’s why the Left has to spread hatred and division. And that’s why they’re lying about this country and its history. They have nothing positive to offer today. Their only hope is to persuade Americans to give up and turn on each other.” —Laura Ingraham

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7. 

   Don Bessee

   19 June 2020

   There are no organized violent riot groups says team lefty –
   “As Mayor, I have received information from the Tulsa Police Department and other law enforcement agencies that shows that individuals from organized groups who have been involved in destructive or violent behavior in other states are planning to travel to the City of Tulsa for purposes of causing unrest in and around the rally,” the order states.
   https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/18/tulsa-mayor-curfew-trump-rally/
   😉

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   Paul Emery

   19 June 2020

   This request is being ignored by Trump who fom now on will be held responsible for any spread of Covid19 due to his campaign event.
   “I wish we could postpone this to a time when the virus isn’t as large a concern as it is today,” Tulsa health director Bruce Dart told Tulsa World newspaper last week. “It’s an honor for Tulsa to have a sitting president want to come and visit our community, but not during a pandemic.”
   The Trump campaign claims more than one million people have requested tickets for the event, although the president and his aids have a history of inflating rally attendance.”
   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/oklahoma-officials-ask-trump-written-plan-keep-rally-safe-amid-coronavirus-pandemic

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9. 

   scenes

   19 June 2020

   Hey Paul!! Check out what your peeps were up to this time!
   https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/06/george-washington-statue-portland-defaced-burning-american-flag-640×335.jpg
   Oh, those frisky kids!

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10. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 June 2020

    Oh Paul.
    We already know that if there is one death resulting from the rally, all future deaths in the entire USA will be blamed on Trump anyway. It was the Leftist mantra all last week…while the mobs were setting fires and stealing everything and anything the thieves and criminals could get their human debris hands on. Blame Trump.

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    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    Bad news for the TDS set and creepy grampa joe –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/zogby-poll-majority-voters-believe-joe-biden-early-stages-dementia/
    😉

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12. 

    Gregory

    19 June 2020

    punchy 145pm
    “This request is being ignored by Trump who fom now on will be held responsible for any spread of Covid19 due to his campaign event.”
    No, he won’t. Silly punch.

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13. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 June 2020

    Scenes @ 1:57 pm.
    This feels like the final straw. Don’t know if I can take anymore…at the present. Deep breath.
    “Portland wakes up to see what antifa did overnight. A century old statue of George Washington was toppled & set on fire with an American flag. “White fragility,” “Damn white men” & other messages are written on the moment. On the ground nearby: “Defund white men.””
    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo
    THEY’VE COME FOR WASHINGTON
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/theyve-come-for-washington.php

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14. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 June 2020

    I will put this here. Screw our enlightened Lefties. Screw them, one and all. This is a direct result of the fear peddling left and what crap is coming out of our institutions of
    higher learning outrage. Connect the dots.
    ‘Man Fired From ‘Dream Job’ Over ‘White Supremacist’ Gesture; He’s Mexican-American, Says He Was Just Cracking His Knuckles’
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/man-fired-from-dream-job-over-white-supremacist-gesture-hes-mexican-american-says-he-was-just-cracking-his-knuckles

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15. 

    George Rebane

    19 June 2020

    Gentlemen – there are other posted commentaries under which your thoughts on the riots and anti-American outrages belong. This ain’t it.

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16. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    I am shocked, shocked I say! –
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-city-sees-surge-in-murders-burglaries-nypd-says
    😉

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17. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    So much for picking off a senate seat. LOL –
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/hot-mess-hickenlooper-stumbles-democratic-042239985.html
    😉

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18. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    Looks like wire fraud can be added to the multitude of crimes Trump and his campaign are accused of.
    “A well-known former special counsel is accusing the Trump campaign of engaging in “wire fraud,” and another well-known attorney is backing up his claim.
    Norm Eisen made the wire fraud allegation in response to a tweet from former Obama White House Director of Communications Jennifer Palmieri. Eisen is a former White House Special Counsel for Ethics and Government Reform, a former U.S. ambassador, and served as a counsel for Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment of President Donald Trump.
    The tweet from the Trump campaign signed by Trump Jr
    “My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,” it reads, followed by a URL that links to a Republican fundraising site, WinRed.
    @NormEisen response
    This is 18 USC 1343 wire fraud by Trump campaign
    No way the other 99 really replied, so all elements are met
    1)scheme to defraud 2)with intent to defraud & 3) foreseeable & actual use of interstate wire comms.
    Barr won’t investigate, but states can under analogous state crimes https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360 …
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-campaign-accused-of-wire-fraud-by-former-white-house-counsel/

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19. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    Oh say it aint so creepy grampa joe wait till the mob finds out –
    Former Vice President Joe Biden did not sponsor or co-sponsor any of the six bills recognizing Juneteenth during his time in the U.S. Senate, though he is now attempting to champion the holiday.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/joe-biden-did-nFormer Vice President Joe Biden did not sponsor or co-sponsor any of the six bills recognizing Juneteenth during his time in the U.S. Senate, though he is now attempting to champion the holiday.ot-sponsor-co-sponsor-any-juneteenth-bills-in-senate/
    😉

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20. 

    Gregory

    19 June 2020

    punchy 458pm
    If you can’t find a story that you like in rawstory covererd in a reputable publication, it ain’t ready for primetime.
    rawstory lies. Yeah, I know… it’s usually a great story… if you don’t look closely.

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21. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    Direct quotes Gregory from tweets. Are you saying that Real Story made them up? Is this fake?
    “My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,” it reads, followed by a URL that links to a Republican fundraising site, WinRed.
    Is this fake?
    @NormEisen response
    This is 18 USC 1343 wire fraud by Trump campaign
    No way the other 99 really replied, so all elements are met
    1)scheme to defraud 2)with intent to defraud & 3) foreseeable & actual use of interstate wire comms.
    Barr won’t investigate, but states can under analogous state crimes https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360 …

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22. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    That some failed team 0 leftovers from the disasterous impeachment are grasping at straws is no surprise to anyone other than the pony tail of ignorance above!
    😉

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23. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    Gregory
    Are you looking at Breitbart through the same lens you evaluate Raw Story? If so what do you find and how is it different than Raw Story? You have never once questioned it’s bias or integrity even though it’s used all the time as sources for blog posts on RR.

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24. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    This is the liability that Trump is assuming for his self serving rally in Tulsa.
    Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci warned White House officials of the serious health risks posed by the massive Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, this Saturday, NBC News reported on Friday.
    Dr. Deborah Birx, the COVID-19 response coordinator of President Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, also raised concerns about the rally, two sources familiar with the discussions told NBC.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anthony-fauci-trump-tulsa-rally-risk_n_5eed377cc5b6d30db989a225

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25. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    Poor po’ pitiful you @632 –

    Breitbart primarily aggregates news from others and has opinion cols. too. When you have to resort to that you have acknowledged no ability to defend the substance of the losers hype –

    You tell em girl!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/black-preacher-to-chaz-blm-protesters-planned-parenthood-1-killer-of-black-population/
    😉
    x

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26. 

    Walt

    19 June 2020

    Emery! Check MAD Magazine for an anti Trump story.. (It’s more credible that the alcoholic run Rawnerve.
    Any of those cowboys in town given you a hard time?
    We know how cowboys make you lose your bodily self control.
    Those constructions workers working REAL close are Trump people.

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27. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 June 2020

    Our local fake newsman is now peddling others fake news. On twitter and Facebook there muyst be a thousand fake Trump sites. My guess is Emery is using them.

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28. 

    Don Bessee

    19 June 2020

    It is still best to wait for the facts. God bless the family. –
    Family says Malcolm Harsch, Black man found hanging from tree, died by apparent suicide
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-says-malcolm-harsch-died-000120517.html
    ;-(

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29. 

    Bill Tozer

    19 June 2020

    Good read. Scandal ridden DA fighting for his political life, turns on cops and against justice. Andrew McCarthy
    ‘Brooks Shooting: The Political Prosecutor Caves In to the Mob’
    “In an outrageous trumping up of a criminal case — to describe this as mere “overcharging” would be woefully insufficient — Fulton County prosecutor Paul Howard Jr. has charged former police officer Garrett Rolfe with felony murder in connection with the shooting death of Rayshard Brooks.
    The killing of Brooks, who was violently resisting arrest and attempting to flee, is still under investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). But in the wake of George Floyd’s recent killing by Minneapolis police officers, the Black Lives Matter demagogues refuse to wait for evidence-based conclusions. They will tolerate no storyline other than the slanderous fiction that we are all expected not just to abide but endorse: Institutionally racist cops are hunting down black men.
    So prosecutor Howard, did not wait for the GBI to finish its probe. The mob was demanding a scalp, so he gave them a scalp.
    Howard got his in-house investigator to sign off on arrest affidavits. They charge Rolfe with felony murder, in addition to several other charges. In Georgia, felony murder is a death-penalty offense. The homicide theory of felony murder is that, while the offender does not specifically intend to cause death, he does intentionally commit a felony from which death results. In this instance, Howard alleges that the underlying felony was aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
    The allegation is ludicrous. That is why Howard rushed to get it done before any investigative findings could contradict him. He is in a fight for political survival: trailing in his reelection bid while facing sexual-harassment accusations by two women who worked in his office. There are also allegations that he violated campaign-finance laws. The state ethics commission is looking into those.
    Under this corruption cloud, he has taken stock of our mob moment. His best shot, he apparently decided, is to run against law enforcement.“
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/brooks-shooting-the-political-prosecutor-caves-in-to-the-mob/

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30. 

    Gregory

    19 June 2020

    punchy 632pm
    1 I never browse Breitbart
    2 when I’ve followed a link to Breitbart, I’ve never found them out and out lying to me
    3 if it’s a story I want to discuss elsewhere (like here) it’s generally no hassle to find a link to a neutral source
    4 rawstory lies

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31. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    Are you saying the links I provided from Raw Story are lies Gregory? Here is the actual text message reprinted word for word from Trump Jr speaking for his dad. Are you saying this is a lie?
    “My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,”
    Follow this link for other examples of the same message. Let me know what you find.
    https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1274072246223503360&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.inquisitr.com%2F6121566%2Ftrump-campaign-wire-fraud%2F

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32. 

    Gregory

    19 June 2020

    punchy 1006pm
    Yep… complete BS.

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33. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    My goodness Gregory,, you are delusional. I have direct copies of the text messages right in front of you and you deny they exist. Sad.

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34. 

    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    For your reading pleasure:
    Fox news poll shows strong opposition of large rallies such as the one Trump has planned for tomorrow.
    “By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies say is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

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    Paul Emery

    19 June 2020

    For your reading pleasure:
    Fox News poll shows huge disapproval for large political rallies such as the one Trump has planned for tomorrow night.
    “By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

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36. 

    Gregory

    19 June 2020

    Punchy 1028pm
    It’s BS, Paul. Meaningless. No one in their right mind would respond to a come on like that.

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37. 

    The Estonian Fox

    20 June 2020

    Possible look at America after ‘Defund the Police’ – Chinese action against Indian troops in the Himalayas didn’t go well, with many on each side killed by old-style weapons. And this was a polite stand-down, where both sides previously agreed not to use firearms.
    On another note, Lockheed Martin Skunk Works announced a new line of weapons available for purchase. Try out their SPIKY-ROCK Models X and Xi, and the revamped HEAVI-ROCK (manual model, or hafted). Prices begin at US$3500 FOB. In standard dusty brown; LaserLyte FSL-4 additional; metric sizes only.
    Ain’t capitalism great.

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38. 

    Bill Tozer

    20 June 2020

    @ 10:32 pm
    By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies say is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends.”
    36 point margin. That’s exactly the margin Trump took Oklahoma in 2016.

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39. 

    Mary Wanna

    20 June 2020

    Bill: yes, except you have it backwards. lol

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40. 

    Mary Wanna

    20 June 2020

    Anyone know what Foxy is talking about? I assume it is regarding new ways to kill humans…but not sure.

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41. 

    Mary Wanna

    20 June 2020

    Trump enabler Barr tries to get rid of NY District atty. in an obvious attempt to silence bad news before the election. No conspiracy there.

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42. 

    Scott O

    20 June 2020

    Mary Waaaah! 8:58 – “I assume it is regarding new ways to kill humans…but not sure.”
    Don’t worry, Marry.
    Planned Parenthood is still in the lead with their current methods.
    Sometimes old-school is best, right?

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43. 

    Mary Wanna

    20 June 2020

    Judge says obvious attempt to silence bad press in Bolton’s book is a big fail.

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44. 

    Mary Wanna

    20 June 2020

    Hardly an equivalency there ScottO but about right for a Trump lemming. Maybe you can talk it out with your brethren at church tomorrow in white supremacy land.

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45. 

    Bill Tozer

    20 June 2020

    Scott @ 9:01 am
    https://www.facebook.com/PatUnleashed/videos/842179682856397/

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46. 

    Bill Tozer

    20 June 2020

    Whatever you say, whatever you say.
    The Republican Party candidate, Donald Trump, carried Oklahoma with a victory margin of 36.39%. Gary Johnston got 5.7%, Nasty Hillary got 28.8%
    ————————
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157470740715914/?

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47. 

    Bill Tozer

    20 June 2020

    Kayleigh McEnany Owns Jim Acosta (Again), Cites ‘Extraordinary’ NewsBusters Video
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2020/06/19/kayleigh-mcenany-owns-jim-acosta-again-cites-extraordinary

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48. 

    fish

    20 June 2020

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 June 2020 at 09:06 AM
    Every time I see your avatar it gladdens me. Your out there showing Trump at his most determined! It’s not silly or frivolous like your “Blowjob Face” avatar.
    I don’t say this often but well done!

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49. 

    scenes

    20 June 2020

    Score 1 for Mary and Paul.
    https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1274309450598363140

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50. 

    Scott O

    20 June 2020

    Mary 9:06 – “Hardly an equivalency there ScottO…”
    Did you mean in numbers?
    Well, you’re correct – I’m sure PP is so far ahead in deaths compared to any other US defense contractor that it would be rather unfair to compare.
    Or did you mean in who gets to choose who dies?
    Probably the personal touch is best…

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