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[What remains the point of debates which are empty of citations that are commonly accepted by the debating parties?  As I have pontificated here for some years, and am now joined by my betters like Victor Davis Hanson among others, we are so polarized that we no longer share any cognitive common ground.  In other words, we arrive at venues like RR, not only with our own opinions, but also with our own unique ‘facts’ (thereby giving lie to Sen Moynihan’s dictum).  The ensuing melee is then composed of nothing but ejecta of hot air flung at the other which make no lasting impact, let alone changing anyone’s beliefs.  And yet, … and yet we continue to regularly assemble on both sides of this arena to dance our ferocious dances, making threatening sounds while shaking our spears and shields at the other side, like the natives of primitive tribes or beasts of the jungle that learned to wage faux ‘wars’ without really harming each other.  Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all.  gjr]

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  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punch 1227pm
    Perhaps I’ve been too hasty with you… could you share the link you got that quote from?
    If you do post the link, and you should have been aware of a different context, you will hear about it.

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    What’s Trump hiding?
    NO NEWS IS BETTER THAN FAKE NEWS
    “Speaking of misleading the public, the Post observes that the Obama administration continued to release projections during the last recession even though they were unflattering.
    True. However, Tenreiro reminds us that Obama’s projections underestimated GDP contraction by nearly 50 percent. They were, in a sense, fake news. No news is a better option.“
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/no-news-is-better-than-fake-news.php

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  3. Walt Avatar

    Looks like Emery BAILED… His selective editing of the facts has bit him in that boney ass once again.
    He gets his editing tips from rawstory.

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  4. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Will chicken hawk Trump now be praising ChiCom Jinping once again?
    https://www.ocregister.com/chinese-lawmakers-endorse-hong-kong-national-security-law

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  5. Walt Avatar

    How dare these guys ruin looter’s fun!
    Emery and he/she will NOT be happy.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/armed-citizens-looting-minneapolis-george-floyd-riots/
    This will really get ya’ wizzing yourselves.
    “A small group of self-described “heavily armed rednecks” guarded several shops against looters Wednesday night as riots erupted across Minneapolis.
    When Minnesota Reformer reporter Max Nesterak asked two men with rifles standing outside a tobacco shop to identify themselves, one man responded, “free Americans.” ”
    And something Emery and he/she won’t say,(because they haven’t)
    “the men expressed support for the protests sparked by the death of George Floyd while he was in police custody, they condemned the violence and looting taking place.”
    Why is it that it’s always the Lefties that are violent and destructive?
    It never happens with Conservative “protests”.

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1025am – Well OK. Then I take it you have no problem with the violent pronouncements of Mad Max and her other House colleagues; and their unanimous silence on publicly repudiating the violent threats over the years from the equally extreme hard-left factions.
    And everyone would be most interested in your answer to Walt’s 153pm.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Great Liberal constituents…
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-protesters-attack-old-woman-wheelchair-knife/
    Tell me again “low life thug” doesn’t apply.

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No chi com cuddling as some troll inferred –
    The New York Times reported Thursday that the U.S. is poised to announce they will pull visas from Chinese students who have connections to universities tied to the Chinese military, perhaps as early as this week.
    The objective is to suppress suspected intellectual property theft and espionage that Chinese students have been accused of during their studies in the U.S. and could affect between 3,000 and 5,000 Chinese students at American universities.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/05/28/report-us-to-pull-study-visas-from-chinese-students-linked-to-military-schools-in-china/#3fa2ec4a7d44
    😉

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I never claimed the lefties are never violent or destructive. there are extreme factions on both sides. However here you have the President of the United States openly endorsing the Cowboys for Trump that claim Democrats should be shot or hung with no exceptions. I’m sure you don’t support that George yet you support Trump who actively ane recently does support this organization. Shouldn’t a proclamation like that be investigated by the FBI and should they be allowed to carry firearms after making those death threats?

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Already posted the link several times Gregory. check it out

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  11. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    She went to get her kid medicine and found target looted –
    “I went to the rally in Minneapolis on the first day after Mr. Floyd was killed, and I thought that it was going to be a rally. But after I got there, and was there about 30 minutes, I realized it wasn’t a rally. It was going to be a riot. So I left.”
    She said that young people “weren’t following the elders who had organized the rally.”
    She added: “The destruction that they did to their own community — what are people going to do who live in those communities, and they need those resources?”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/28/past-naacp-president-blasts-looters-these-motherfkers-need-to-go-home/
    😉

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 02:23 PM
    Please grow up. We read your tripe here and it is always the same. Right bad, left good. You are a broken pathetic record of hate. And you are a sick man with TDS. Please stop supporting the violence of the leftwing loons and start trying to bing peace to America.

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  13. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Of course he withdrew his comment Gregory. But the fact is he said it and Trump endorsed the Cowboys without hesitation.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 223pm – I don’t condone any of that kind of talk from either side. But it happens. And no one has taken guns away from the black factions who publicly brandished and threatened at a number of venues including polling stations. To me, socialists like Obama, promising to fundamentally transform America, are a much greater threat to millions of lives and limbs, and nobody suggested taking the presidency away from him. It all depends what kind of land you want to live in. I call your attention to –
    https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2020/05/seize-the-moment.html

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Nice deflection Emery,, now.. Just who and where are those violent “right factions” you speak of? Can you do better than a hardly heard of “proud boys”? ( spawned by the violent ANTIFA)
    Hell.. You NEVER speak out AGAINST Libby violence,, just your usual crickets.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt and Dr. Rebane, 1:53 & 2:00 pm
    Yep, it is kinda hard to forget about the rioting and injury to humans committed down at Berkeley cause Milo was invited to speak. It’s commonplace across the liberal infestations of the US, Canada, and Uk that the authorities cannot guarantee safety for speakers the Libs disagree with.
    Let that sink in. “Can’t guarantee their safety”. Really sez it all.
    Remember U-Lock in the sock? A Latino US Marine beaten up because he was mistaken for a Trump supporter blocks from the Antifa mayhem. Oh, the list is too long, too many montages of Lefty violence against the elderly (if they thought they were going to vote for Trump), Eric Holder’s recent comments, Obama’s “if they bring a knife, you bring a gun”, Mad Max, and a long line of Celebrities touting everything from physical harm to the murder of Trump…or the Covington School boys.
    Why anyone would listen to those coked up Celebrity air heads is beyond me. Actors, generally, are stupid. Ok, generally and collectively actors are not very smart. Besides, they have nothing to say that is worth listening to, yet think what they say is important! No self awareness. They actually think everyone (besides their groupies) values anything they say. Like having Greta speak on a COVID-19 townhall panel, ROFLMAO.
    Anyway, I can’t remember a bunch of flag waving Americans turn into a violent mob and go chasing folks down the street to beat on their heads, with no exceptions for the elderly, women, or children. Can’t remember a demonstration or protects by the Right that turned into destruction of private property, overturned cop cars, arson, mayhem, and of course, rioting. Can’t recall Conservatives leaving a trail of carnage after a rally, big or small. It’s not our thing. See, we believe in peaceful assembly.
    The left uses violent people as their tool to shut down opposition. The Occupy Wall Streets used the raping and doping boys in the drum circles as their enforcers, just as today’s Progressives use Antifa as their goons to get the job done.
    ——
    Walt…. “heavily armed rednecks”, lol. Well, it’s time we got the band back together.
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157404436815914/?type=3&theater
    “heavily armed rednecks.”, lol. Well, it’s time to put the band back together cause of all those Irredeemables out in redneck land. Dregs of Society, they be. If you see them, tell them they are not welcome here and DRIVE THEM OUT!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri83v76PXdE

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    punch
    The rawstory link you shared doesn’t have any context, but then rawstory is a highly biased muckraking site.
    THEY got their story from The Daily Beast, also a Democratic slanted source, but with some journalistic ethics. They wrote:
    ““I’ve come to a place where I’ve come to a conclusion where the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat,” Griffin said to cheers at a rally at a New Mexico church. He was there to defy a public safety order pertaining to the coronavirus.
    Griffin, a county commissioner in the state, hastily added that he only meant Democrats who were dead in “the political sense”—an effort at cleanup he repeated in an interview with The Daily Beast on Tuesday.”
    Thus avoiding a Chuck Toddism of ignoring what the person said.
    Really, Paul, it’s sad what passes for a news director at the local lefty community FM station.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Wait a minute,, there were those REAL VIOLENT Tea Party protests. SWAT teams called in. Police in riot gear. LIBS “just knew” the Tea Party was going to burn down everything in sight.
    Track down Lefty politicians and draw and quarter them in the public square.. Just like the good old days.
    Just the mention of “The Tea Party” had LIBS pissing where they stood.
    Yet the only damage was to the trash and garbage that was there before we showed up.. Gone… The grounds look better than after a city parkes worker done his gov. job.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Rawstory? 🤣🤦‍♂️ Called that one!
    Keep going Emery,, you sure know how to dig your own hole.
    No help needed from me!😎🤣

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  20. Walt Avatar

    That reminds me.. OK Emery,, Kathy Griffin holding Trump’s severed head? Who’s head where the cowboys holding?

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Oh Walt. Katy Griffin has a new prop. At least the Center for the Arts cancelled that wingnut, so you gotta give the Center is due. Anyway, Katy’s new prop…in addition to the head.
    F**K TRUMP: Kathy Griffin Suggests Stabbing Trump With Syringe ‘With Nothing But Air Inside It’
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/lindsay-kornick/2020/05/27/fk-trump-kathy-griffin-suggests-stabbing-trump-syringe
    Yep, one good air bubble hitting the heart can be the last thing you do.
    ————————-
    Dr. Rebane @ 2:44 pm
    I have no intention to take away from your new post Sieze the Moment, but I read Scottie Hart’s column and as to be expected, Ms. Cook posted the Cowboy quote about the only good Dem is a dead Dem, about the rope or firing squad. I could not stop laughing. Her post had nothing to do with Scottie’s column, just had to let us all know that Orange Man Bad is very very bad.
    She got a bad case of TDS and can’t focus on nothing else. Hmmm. Sound familiar? Anyway, I would like to direct the readers’ attention to the new post written by our gracious longsuffering host.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Gregory in your view he only meant Democrats that are dead in “the political sense” should be shot or hung. Thanks for clarifying that. And you apparently support him as does Trump otherwise why should you care to make a comment.

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  23. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “So Gregory in your view…”
    There is absolutely no chance that any sentence from Punch that starts like that will be followed by an accurate summary of what I wrote.
    I comment on your bullcrap editing and snide asides, Paul.
    If Trump wins the Schadenfreude will be wonderful.

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  24. Walt Avatar

    That’s all you got Emery? You keep repeating the same old crap like a dementia sufferer.
    Answer my above question Emery, Why do you dodge it?

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  25. Walt Avatar

    How bout those armed “rednecks” Emery? Do more protecting of business that the cops. Yaa… Ignore that too.

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Putting the small nitpicker petty stuff aside for the moment (don’t sweat the small stuff), here is some grown up stuff:
    ‘New FBI document confirms the Trump campaign was investigated without justification’
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/499586-new-fbi-document-confirms-the-trump-campaign-was-investigated-without?
    Not good. No FBI investigation can be opened with justification. They had no evidence then, they have nothing now.
    ——————————+-
    Big Stuff Exit Question:
    Did Susan Rice write her CYA “by the book, by the book, by the book” e-mail to herself on Jan 20, 2017 at noon to protect Obama, or did Obama sign an Executive Order on Jan 12, 2017 (which allowed for the expansion of authorized unmasking from a few to many departments and personnel throughout gov’t) to protect Susan Rice….and all those who were involved in illegal spying on an opponent’s Presidential campaign?
    In other words, did Obama sign the EO on Jan 12, 2017 to protect those involved in the illicit abuse of intelligence to spy on political opponents?
    Looking that way.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Yes, I came to a conclusion about your opinion or view as I put it. Sorry you can’t defend what you claim to believe. You always find a grammatical way to weasel out. Obvious for everyone except you’re fellow COJ’s that reside on this blog day and night.
    This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George’s readers.

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  28. Walt Avatar

    Run from the facts Emery,, that’s what you do.
    You got caught manipulating them.. Again. How come you always have a hard time backing up your bullshit?

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 04:43 PM
    This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George’s readers.

    I’ll say…….
    Hey….I thought the “readers” belonged to both you and george?

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  30. Walt Avatar

    “Boring”? Yaa,, he still ain’t tired of losing.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It isn’t a “grammatical” weaseling out as you put it, Paul. It’s FUCKING LOGIC.
    What I wrote is not what your brain cells told you I wrote.

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  32. George Rebane Avatar

    re BillT 305pm – PaulE needs to answer to all these blatantly asymmetrical actions in the public forum of the extreme Right and the extreme Left. Remaining silent on the 1,000 atrocities of the Left, to concentrate on the one atrocity of the Right doesn’t cut it, especially if you want to make a reasonable point on these pages. Without that recognition, Paul’s arguments ring hollow.

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  33. Walt Avatar

    “This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George’s readers.”
    How Emery signals “RETREAT!!!” High ponytailing it outa here.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Look what Twitworld let slide.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/28/twitter-no-warning-on-misleading-viral-photo-of-minneapolis-cop-at-trump-rally/
    It’s a slam on Trump, and Trump supporters.. Good to go.

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Call it ‘owning a lib.’
    Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Nukes CNN’s Chris Cuomo Over Hypocritical Attack On Hydroxychloroquine
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-nukes-cnns-chris-cuomo-over-hypocritical-attack-on-hydroxychloroquine

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Are you defending the Cowboys for Trump and his endorsement of them?

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Damn Emery, back in dementia mode? You have already been busted on that lame ass “edited” question.
    You have question to answer of your own. WHY EMERY WHY!!!!????

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Trump and Pompeo outmaneuver those mutha mullahs again! –
    Iran and Venezuela attempted to outmaneuver American sanctions by establishing a new oil partnership.
    Two Liberian-flagged, Greek-owned ships that “were en route to Venezuela carrying Iranian fuel, scrapped their deliveries after the U.S. threatened sanctions,” a senior U.S. official told Fox News.
    First reported by The Wall Street Journal, the ships were expected to arrive in Venezuela as the final delivery in a previously planned five-oil-tanker shipment, an effort that the Venezuelan regime has said is a partnership to thwart the American sanctions.
    Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro said in a televised address: “We are two rebel revolutionary peoples that are never going to kneel before North American imperialism.”
    But the Greek-owned ships would have been unable to access international banking and maritime insurance had they carried out the shipment.
    U.S. officials have been in direct communication with the ships, which are no longer heading to Venezuala but heading south off the coast of Senegal near Liberia, according to The Wall Street Journal.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-disrupts-iranian-fuel-deliveries-venezuela-official-says
    😉

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 06:38 PM
    George
    Are you defending the Cowboys for Trump and his endorsement of them?

    George just tell him no….retweets are not endorsements.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Seems rednecks with guns is so frightening to Emery, he can’t even speak about it. How dare them protect a business from looters.
    Hear the news Emery? A shopkeeper killed a man trying to loot his business.. He went to jail.. Is that justice Emery?
    So looting is OK?

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If it were not for double standards they would have none at all –
    Minneapolis Police Union President Lt. Bob Kroll confirmed on Wednesday that Derek Chauvin — the officer caught on tape resting his full weight on Minnesota man George Floyd’s neck shortly before he died — was not on stage at an October campaign rally held by President Donald Trump.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/28/twitter-no-warning-on-misleading-viral-photo-of-minneapolis-cop-at-trump-rally/
    😉

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George is a big boy fish. H can make his own decision as to how to respond.

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  44. Walt Avatar

    LOL!! The silent treatment from the buzzard of Broad st.
    The mark of a dude who knows he can’t win the debate.
    Still waiting on where Conservative “protests” turned violent as you claimed.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 08:03 PM
    Was just hoping that if given a response you might shuffle off somewhat satisfied and stop wasting everybodies time this evening.
    You were an annoying child weren’t you…….

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  46. Walt Avatar

    Fish. It fun to watch him not getting his way.
    Cowboys really has him in hiding in the dark.

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