[What remains the point of debates which are empty of citations that are commonly accepted by the debating parties? As I have pontificated here for some years, and am now joined by my betters like Victor Davis Hanson among others, we are so polarized that we no longer share any cognitive common ground. In other words, we arrive at venues like RR, not only with our own opinions, but also with our own unique ‘facts’ (thereby giving lie to Sen Moynihan’s dictum). The ensuing melee is then composed of nothing but ejecta of hot air flung at the other which make no lasting impact, let alone changing anyone’s beliefs. And yet, … and yet we continue to regularly assemble on both sides of this arena to dance our ferocious dances, making threatening sounds while shaking our spears and shields at the other side, like the natives of primitive tribes or beasts of the jungle that learned to wage faux ‘wars’ without really harming each other. Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all. gjr]
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501 responses to “Sandbox -26may20”
One of the leading lights of fakenews at his best/worst –
CNN’s Brian Stelter apologizes after falsely claiming St. John’s showed ‘no sign of smoke or fire’
https://www.foxnews.com/media/stelter-apologizes-st-johns-church-tweet
😉
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Like I said. Emery is in full blown dementia. Reality and facts of history has packed up and left.
Next he could be sayin’ Germany won WWII. Give him time.
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Here.. Kinda the way Emery remembers histoy.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/01/old-row-outdoors-unloading-boat-truck-twitter-video/
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fish 131pm – only saw one of yours in the spam folder and posted it. I have been pulling off-topic comments though, but not any in the last couple of days. Thanks for the heads up.
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Hey Walt, George, Gregory, don and bill, fish and other Tea Party types. Remember when the Tea Party stood for something?
Remember this:
“The Tea Party movement is an American fiscally conservative political movement within the Republican Party. Members of the movement have called for lower taxes, and for a reduction of the national debt of the United States and federal budget deficit through decreased government spending.”
what happened? Not a peep of protest from any of you about the 5 Trillion increase in national debt under Trump after factoring in the huge amount paid out during the corona virus pandemic.
“The country’s worsening fiscal picture runs in sharp contrast to President Trump’s campaign promise to eliminate the federal debt within eight years. The deficit is up nearly 50 percent in the Trump era. Since taking office, Trump has endorsed big spending increases and steered most Republicans to abandon the deficit obsession they held during the Obama administration.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/25/us-deficit-hit-billion-marking-nearly-percent-increase-during-trump-era/
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Trump wishes badly he was Marcos or Duterte or the Ayatollah,
The call with Trump was “deeply disturbing,” Governor Wittmer said.
“Instead of offering support or leadership to bring down the temperature at protests, President Trump told governors to ‘put it down’ or we would be ‘overridden,’” Whitmer said.
“He said governors should ‘dominate’ protesters, ‘or you’ll look like a bunch of jerks.’ The president repeatedly and viciously attacked governors, who are doing everything they can to keep the peace while fighting a once-in-a-generation global pandemic.”
“The president’s dangerous comments should be gravely concerning to all Americans,” Whitmer said.”
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 June 2020 at 02:52 PM
Hey Walt, George, Gregory, don and bill, fish and other Tea Party types. Remember when the Tea Party stood for something?
The Tea Party lost Punch……much to your glee if I recall…..no sense whining about it (sorry….I know that’s your thing!) now!
How goes your rebuilding of the California Party? Progress being made?
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Posted by: Mary Wanna | 01 June 2020 at 02:57 PM
Great….messy pants is here!
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Yeah fish the Tea Party lost for sure because any principals it had were abandoned once Trump came along. He’s the total antithesis of the Tea party and all of you went goo goo over him crawling at his feet. Sad.
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Oh my and Trump is doing his voodoo to get that asteroid to hit the planet. Looks like there is nothing he can’t do.
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You were in the Tea Party Todd, what is your view of the 5 Trillion dollar deficit Trump has run up in his first four years?
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PaulE 252pm – Actually Paul, the Tea Party was never a part of the Republican Party. You must have got that little factoid from a fake news outlet. And the only “principals” the TP abandoned was when it split after its two leaders got into a pissing match. Neither faction abandoned its principles; the political parties (Dems and Repubs) in power never implemented many TP principles through legislation. And only the Repubs paid lip service to some of them.
Who went “goo goo over (Trump) crawling at his feet”? The conservative commenters here have taken him to task (most certainly I do that constantly) when his mouth goes off the rails. And not all of us are totally sanguine about his trade policies, even though most of them are having beneficial impacts on our economy which even Dems admit. The only crowd that has gone goo-goo over a politician in recent memory is St Obama’s supporters.
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Funny, I can’t remember ever being a tea partier.
Does anyone have a bucket with an octopus resistant lid?
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LOL Paul, you still defend the failed “O”.. He did jack shit except throw wild “look at me” parties, on the taxpayer dime.
How did his “shovel ready job” crap play out? (non union need not apply)
He DID get the American spirit rolling in the anti big gov movement. We prospered DESPITE his attempts to stop it.
You know,, Fracking and the Dakota oil..(All on state and private land)
Nice try blaming “burning water” on fracking. Ya’ kinda got burned on that one.
Thanks to your boy “O”,, Trump got elected.
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It never was affiliated with a Party George but it was committed to it’s principals one being fiscally responsible. I’m pretty sure you were involved, correct me if I’m wrong.
Didn’t vote for Obama second time around out of principal. Are you going to vote for Trump this fall?
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I have the balls to say YES.. You,, not so much.
Whos the pro doper your backing this time? Oh… That’s right,, Biden.. His mind is as bad as yours.
Emery. You boy “O” said “those jobs ain’t coming back”
Uh,, they sure as hell did,, and with interest.
Just who wants a return of high taxation and regulation?
Nope, you NEVER have an answer to that… WHY EMERY WHY???
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Paul Emery | 01 June 2020 at 03:19 PM
No you fake news man. I was never in the Tea Party. You just make it up.
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Slappy,
I did not recall you once decrying Zerobama for doubling the debt (or was that the deficit?) of all former Presidents in our nation’s history COMBINED. Not once. I do remember you throwing barbs at the TPP every chance you had…as Fish pointed out, with glee. Violent Right Wing Extremists and racists to boot!
Glad you have had your Come to Jesus moment and are concerned with Federal spending. You now can join Rand Paul and be the lone voice crying in the wilderness.
Excuse me if I don’t take you seriously.
Mean ole Trumpf is making poor Germany pay their fair share to NATO money they do not have, sob,sob. We should pay for their security, right? Mean o Ron Paul is blocking funding to 9/11 first responder’s health fund due to budget concerns over the entire budget…opps, blame Trumpf.
Shut down, anyone? But, but, but what about our local US Forest Service Ranger who missed a paycheck. Don’t you care about her, Bill? Blah, blah, blah.
Sorry, can’t take you seriously, Slap Happy.
Speaking of the Tea Party, the wack jobs on the Left are now comparing the peaceful looters rioting and destroying small businesses to the Boston Tea Party, ROFLMAO. Unbelievable
Sorry, I can’t take them or the lamestream media in their back pockets seriously either.
Poppenjay is a good name, a name I used to call you. Lets talk about Melania’s shoes again, shall we ole poppinjay? It will be another serious conversation I bet
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Dr. Rebane @ 3:20 pm
“Who went “goo goo over (Trump) crawling at his feet”? The conservative commenters here have taken him to task (most certainly I do that constantly) when his mouth goes off the rails.”
Not a day passes that I don’t read a respected conservative commentator writing about Trump’s shot from the lip, comments in unflattering terms. National Review, Powelineblog, etc.
From last Thursday’s Daily Quotes:
Observations: “If President Donald Trump sends out a series of bizarre and morally reprehensible tweets accusing Joe Scarborough of murdering a congressional intern — and if you point out that this is both bizarre and morally reprehensible — then you will be labeled insufficiently loyal to the cause. It’s not about truth; it’s not about decency; it’s about signaling your commitment. In the real world, commitment without decency is a sin. Online, commitment without decency is a virtue. Which is why if you spend too much time on Twitter, you probably ought to be committed.” —Ben Shapiro
For the record: “I don’t really care what you think about Joe Scarborough, but no American deserves to have the President of the United States targeting him with accusations of murder. No American deserves the President of the United States tweeting out salacious and unproven accusations suggesting murder and conspiracy. The deceased’s family does not deserve it. Her widower husband does not deserve it. That President Trump does not seem to understand that should bother every one of us.” —Erick Erickson
Oh, BTW, the “shoot from the lip” reference is from Dr. Rebane.
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Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 June 2020 at 03:04 PM
Yeah fish the Tea Party lost for sure because any principals it had were abandoned once Trump came along. He’s the total antithesis of the Tea party and all of you went goo goo over him crawling at his feet. Sad.
I realize you’re getting up there and that the memory does tend to go…..
The Tea Party that troubled you so was a spent force by the time Obama started his second term.
Just no way around it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
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Most stupid thing I’ve seen yet, Trump standing in front of a closed church holding up the some Bible that he never reads and then he walks away. After he trots out the usual crew for a photo op.
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Nice try he/she Trump Does read it. You use the pages as rolling papers.
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PaulE 354pm – “committed to it’s principals”?? Perhaps you were trying to say ‘committed to its principles’ – principal is NOT principle, nor is the contraction for ‘it is’ a proxy for the possessive pronoun ‘its’.
But such niceties aside, yes I was part of the leadership that formed the Nevada County Tea Party, one of the first in the land since national leader/founder Mark Meckler was a county resident. Fiscal responsibility was one of the TP’s tenets. Fall is a long way off, but if the Biden/Trump election were today, I definitely would vote for Trump.
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Speaking of a closed church, the St. John’s Church has a rich history. Luckily the fire damage was not as bad as feared.
Start at 15: 58 for WH reaction to St. John’s Church in DC
https://www.facebook.com/Brian.Kolfage.jr/videos/278908613156714/?v=278908613156714
You would have thunk the Parks Service or DC cops would have protected the Lincoln Memorial. Whatz next? Defacing Arlington?
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Mary 435 pm – For at least half the country it is important to see the President take public note of the attack on the ‘Church of the Presidents’ across the street from where he lives. And to have that visit appropriately recorded for Americans to see. Also, I was not aware of your deep knowledge about Donald Trump’s spiritual practices.
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Thanks for the grammar lesson George. At least on this matter you are correct.
My fondest hope would be that when it becomes
obvious that Trump is not re-electable, which will happen, that you would be one of the leaders to rebuild the Republican party epecially in California where it is merely a relic at this time. AB5 is an example of what can happen in a one party system.
Trump is down by over 25% in most California polls.
https://www.270towin.com/2020-polls-biden-trump/california/
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Trump will be unelectable after his second term Emery.
Now… Can you hold out that long? Remember when I said,
“Your chances of ever seeing a LIB elected ever again, are real slim”.
No one, not even half wits with a lick of sanity will vote Biden, save for the blue ball Democrat.
Funny, Emery has yet to say just how a LIB is supposed to be better than Trump. Talk is cheap Ol’ buzzard.
Just what will LIBS do Emery? huhh? huhh??
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And Trump is down 98 in the Castro District and probably 90 where their is looting goi g on in Oakland.
@ 5:13 pm., re: St John’s Church. What’s all the fuss about? It’s not like the Norte Dame Cathedral in Paris (tongue in cheek). I recall some Lefties had quite the negative reaction to too much coverage of that “tourist attraction” as well.
Roll tape.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-walks-out-of-white-house-to-go-across-street-to-church-burned-by-violent-rioters
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Slap Happy
What more can Dr. Rebane do? He already lives in a solid Red District, which we are most grateful for. Are you saying you want Dr. Rebane to move to Orange County and take his show there?
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Trump is mentally ill and a danger to our Country. That’s one of the reasons he’s doing so poorly in the polls. That and his terrible leadership during the pandemic and massive debt due to his failed tax cuts for the rich.
I’d vote for you Walt if you were the other option.
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LOOK!!! Dr. Emery is back. Trump is more stable than you!
Your nuts. Certifiable. Off your meds.
Still won’t answer my Questions Emery? Too tough?
This is the kind of crap you say when your cornered and know I’m right.
A proggy is an enemy of the state. No such thing as a “good” LIB.
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On another subject,
SOROS-FUNDED LEFTISTS DOMINATE FACEBOOK CENSORSHIP BOARD
“Judicial Watch has taken an in-depth look at the members of Facebook’s recently-appointed oversight board that will decide which posts get blocked. It found that the board “is stacked with leftists, including a close friend of leftwing billionaire George Soros who served on the board of directors of his Open Society Foundations (OSF).” Indeed, more than half of the 20 board members have ties to Soros”
“The Facebook board contains some hardcore leftists with no know connection to Soros. (You don’t need such connections to be a lefty, it just helps if you want to monetize your leftism.) They include Katherine Chen, Nicolas Suzor, Jamal Greene, and Pam Karlan.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/soros-funded-leftists-dominate-facebook-censorship-board.php
Quite the list. What’s that you say? Ok, got it. Nothing to see here, move on…or face FB jail.
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Dougy must be having the time of his life TROLLING the Daily Caller. Plenty of anti Trump posts and never responding to any of the responses. Soros bucks must be racking up. (5 cents a post, and three cents for every pissed reply)
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Paul Emery | 01 June 2020 at 06:29 PM
No you are mentally ill Paul Emery and should seek help and lay off the mind-altering drugs. Trump is trying to save America from you and your rioter pals. You are not a person who should talk about patriotism or even being an American. China is a better fit for you and since you love them so much we can help with the moving expenses.
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The Trump collapse is astounding according to Conservative Jennifer Rubin
“Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin said Trump is quickly becoming the “invisible president.”
According to the conservative, Trump’s polling collapse is “breathtaking” in light of an election that is just months away.
“The Post-ABC News poll in March showed his approval rating nudging into positive territory (48 percent approval vs. 46 percent disapproval); the latest poll released on Sunday shows him back in negative territory (45 percent to 53 percent). His personal favorability is net -13. His rating on handling the coronavirus has gone from a net +6 to a net -7,” Rubin explained that there is little going right for the president at the moment as he is overwhelmed by events and former Vice President Joe Biden — the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee — surges in the polls.
Rubin Writes “Biden has an enormous approval advantage among groups critical to his victory,” Rubin suggested the former veep may yet see another bump due to how Trump has handled the Floyd protests.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-has-become-the-invisible-president-as-his-poll-numbers-collapse-with-breathtaking-speed-conservative/
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HAHAHAHA This Jenifer Rubin is conservative only at the wa compost and in your TDS infected cranium –
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-jennifer-rubin-trump-supporters-college-educated
Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin was criticized for declaring 2020 Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden should tell voters that relying on President Trump “allowed thousands of Americans to die” and his reelection would result in more deaths.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/jennifer-rubin-joe-biden-donald-trump
President Trump has been living rent-free in Jennifer Rubin’s head for the past four years. Every day, her profound hatred for the President compels this poor afflicted woman to humiliate herself in a new way. Several times a week, Rubin actually becomes the news because of another tone-deaf tweet.
Today, she managed to outdo herself and wrote, in my humble opinion, the greatest tweet ever sent, which I’ll get to.
This, of course, made us laugh because we remember the Jennifer Rubin of 2018.
Oddly, there were quite a few hits for Rubin’s tweets on Justice Brett Kavanaugh, but they’re no longer available. Deleted?
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/05/05/jennifer-rubin-the-greatest-tweet-ever-sent/
Before moving into opinion writing, Rubin was a labor and employment lawyer in Los Angeles, working for Hollywood studios, for 20 years. She now describes herself as a “recovering lawyer”.[6] Commenting on working with her from 2000–05, Hollywood animator and trade union leader Steve Hulett described her to Media Matters as “always funny, with sharp observations. I never got the impression she was anything but a Democrat … she was mildly critical of some of Kerry’s campaign moves during the ’04 campaign, but she wasn’t in the Bush camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rubin_(journalist)
😉
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Sorry to tell you Don the numbers are what they are.
“The Post-ABC News poll in March showed his approval rating nudging into positive territory (48 percent approval vs. 46 percent disapproval); the latest poll released on Sunday shows him back in negative territory (45 percent to 53 percent). His personal favorability is net -13. His rating on handling the coronavirus has gone from a net +6 to a net -7,”
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Typical po’ ol’ fakenewsman dodge when busted for bull shit! LOL
😉
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Are you saying the numbers aren’t real Don? Here’s the source of the story
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
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Oh, what about the ‘conservative’ William ‘Bill’ Kristol that Slap Happy likes to quote. And Wikileaks says “William Kristol is an American neoconservative political analyst. A frequent commentator on several networks, he was the founder and editor-at-large of the …[now defunct rag he published as his readers walked away from his liberal trash.]
The conservative Jennifer Rubin. Oh my, that’s a new one.
“…according to Conservative Jennifer Rubin.” “ According to the conservative, Trump’s….”
That is like Susan Rice writing herself, “Obama said by the book.” “Everything done by the book.”
Sweet. Almost as funny as calling Khashoggi a journalist. Most of the columns submitted to the Wa Compost were written by the Qatar Embassy in Washington and all his columns where edited by and approved by the Qatar Embassy before submission… being on the Qatar payroll and all. Wonder if he had to register and fill out the forms to register as working for a foreign government. Nah, that only applies to those targets of Obama’s witch-hunt.
Jennifer Rubin, the conservative. Did I tell you that Jennifer Rubin is a conservative? Good one. Belly laugh of the day. Thank you, kind court jester.
Coming next: “Conservative” Max Boot said…
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Re: St John’s Episcopal Church
“I see there are many people, most in media, more upset about President Trump walking to St. John’s Church and holding up a bible than they were about the church being lit on fire by rioters last night.” —-Kristin Fisher
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Taxpayer funded campaign photo op by Trump at the church. When is property damage an “attack” George? I say it is vandalism. Buildings, schools, etc. have been “attacked” by vandals over the years. It isn’t a war but some will try to spin it that way.
Trump says, “I support the peaceful protesters, then he attacks peaceful protesters standing near a church with horses, flash bangs, rubber bullets and pepper bullets. Total liar.
Did Trump crack the Bible, or speak of passages from the Bible at the church? No.
Has Trump ever set foot in that church? I wonder.
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Trump held the Bible upside down and backward. Proof that he belongs in the Circle of Clueless Buffoons.
The bishop of the church said she was outraged that the church was used as a photo op.
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MWanna: ” Buildings, schools, etc. have been “attacked” by vandals over the years.”
lmfao.
Yeah. This is just normal vandalism, nothin’ to see here.
Don’t you have a business to go loot or something? Maybe a statue to pull down?
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For Fish, 28 seconds. Nor for any reader.
https://www.facebook.com/crunchybobjones/videos/2892776417466424/UzpfSTQyNjg4Mzg2NzM3NDY5OTozMTgwODM1OTUxOTc5NDYz/
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Yeah the guy is a total idiot Mary. Proof of the dumbing down of America. Thank goodness it won’t last much longer. It’s just a matter of damage control.
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Still on that kick Emrey? Still haven’t said who can take him down. Sure ain’t the criminals in the streets.
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In other news I am surprised nobody has mentioned….
‘Scientist Finds 33 Creatures Living In A Cave That Was Sealed Off For 5 Million Years’
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157145352411615&set=gm.953245555130555&type=3&theater
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MaryW 710am – vandalism in the course of concerted mass efforts to tear down our culture and civilization is definitely an attack, and has always been seen as that by everyone throughout history. Even Antifa communications call it an attack in summoning their members to action. Only naifs and leftwing loyalists disseminating their narrative deny what is really happening in the streets.
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PaulE 755am – You seem to be gaining certainty of Trump’s defeat by the day. You could really make some easy money and increase the credibility of your claims if you would give some odds and offer a wager on the election. When will that threshold from just talk to walk be crossed?
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re: St John’s taxpayer funded Trump campaign photo op:
‘Park Police say DC protesters cleared because they attacked cops, not because of Trump church visit: report’
“U.S. Park Police reportedly say protesters near the White House were pushed back by riot police on Monday evening because they were attacking police officers, not because of a visit by President Trump to a nearby church that had been set alight the night before…..
“Protesters Dispersed With Tear Gas So Trump Could Pose at Church,” said a New York Times story.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer issued a joint statement to call out the “photo-op.”
“Across our country, Americans are protesting for an end to the pattern of racial injustice and brutality we saw most recently in the murder of George Floyd,” the statement read. “Yet, at a time when our country cries out for unification, this President is ripping it apart. Tear-gassing peaceful protestors without provocation just so that the President could pose for photos outside a church dishonors every value that faith teaches us.”
But on Tuesday morning, Park Police sources told WTOP that this was not the case, arguing that the protesters were not all peaceful, that tear gas was not used, and that officers did not know of Trump’s visit to the house of worship.
A source says tear gas was never used — instead smoke cannisters were deployed, which don’t have an uncomfortable irritant in them,” reporter Neal Augenstein tweeted. “And, the source says Park Police didn’t know President Trump would be walking across the park several minutes later.”
The outlet went on to report that the crowd was pushed back when officers were being hit with water bottles and that protesters had climbed onto the top of a structure at the north end of Lafayette Square that had been attacked and burned a day earlier.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-protesters-trump-church-visit
Another day, another day to expose Always Wrong Menopausal Mary. But, it’s not always black and white. Trump was indeed slammed for St John’s ‘photo op’. That part is true. And,
I suppose it depends on what one’s definition of what “peaceful protestors” is. :).
Next.
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