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[What remains the point of debates which are empty of citations that are commonly accepted by the debating parties?  As I have pontificated here for some years, and am now joined by my betters like Victor Davis Hanson among others, we are so polarized that we no longer share any cognitive common ground.  In other words, we arrive at venues like RR, not only with our own opinions, but also with our own unique ‘facts’ (thereby giving lie to Sen Moynihan’s dictum).  The ensuing melee is then composed of nothing but ejecta of hot air flung at the other which make no lasting impact, let alone changing anyone’s beliefs.  And yet, … and yet we continue to regularly assemble on both sides of this arena to dance our ferocious dances, making threatening sounds while shaking our spears and shields at the other side, like the natives of primitive tribes or beasts of the jungle that learned to wage faux ‘wars’ without really harming each other.  Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all.  gjr]

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  1. Paul emery Avatar
    Paul emery

    Guilty plea Gregory. What do you call that?

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all. gjr]
    Catharsis.

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all. gjr]

    ……and humor……can’t forget that.

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  4. Walt Avatar

    Pleading guilty with a gun to your head, for a a manufactured crime.. Only an EMERY will still defend that. The DOJ has dismissed and DROPPED the charges.
    Even the judge has lawyered up Emery.
    Seems you never get tired of being wrong.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Keep trying Emery
    Take a gander at THIS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26WwTu28Ido
    “Joe Scarborough jokes about killing intern.”
    https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/05/16/video-resurfaces-joe-scarborough-jokes-about-having-affair-and-killing-intern/
    Sure it was a joke?
    HE opened the door for Trump.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Let’s see what the fuss is all about. Probably along the lines of when Trump dissed (taunted) Punchy’s beloved Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger for Arnold’s failing numbers when he took over running the Apprentice. It was shocking I tell ya, shocking.
    The morning outrage today is not about Arnold. The morning fuss is:
    ‘Hypocritical Mika Brzezinski Desperately Tries to Censor Trump’
    “And oh yes. Mika’s outrage at the Trump tweet about the death of the Scarborough congressional staffer? She mysteriously seems to forget when someone she knows was laughing about the young aide’s death.
    Here’s the transcript from Don Imus’s old TV taping of his radio show on May 29, 2003. The guest: Joe Scarborough. Imus is giving Joe advice in his new role as an MSNBC TV host. It reads this way:
    IMUS: “Don’t be afraid to be funny, because you are funny. Iasked you why you aren’t in Congress. You said that you had sex with the intern and then you had to kill her.
    SCARBOROUGH: Yeah. (Laughs.) Well, what are you going to do?
    Curiously, with Joe caught right there in the flesh joking about the death of his young staffer, Mika has fallen strangely silent.
    So. The real question here?
    If Mika Brzezinski believes it’s ok to slip into the role of Twitter censor and get the President of the United States banned because she is incensed by his tweets?
    Then it would certainly be reasonable to ask if Mika and Joe should not be banned from television. After all, to sit there on a Comcast MSNBC show and repeatedly suggest the President is mentally ill, has dementia, is a would be homicidal-maniac who wants to blow up the world in a nuclear holocaust, is a sociopath and insane and on and on – isn’t it time to retire them from the airwaves? Let them stay in Florida, take away their television and computers and just let them listen in the quiet to the Rolling Stones sing about what might actually describe their respective televised rantings – their Umpteenth Nervous Breakdown?
    In fact?
    No.
    Mika and Joe may be crazy. Obsessed. Infected with a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. But just as Ted Cruz pointed out that “The media should NOT be asking Silicon Valley billionaires to silence the President of the United States” – neither should anyone be asking television networks to silence commentators they don’t like.
    Don’t ban them. Let Mika and Joe babble on. In fact, what those in the Leftist State Media seem not to understand is that all of this Hate Trump drivel actually backfires badly and helps the President big time. When I am out on the speaking trail I am repeatedly told by Americans that they are making a point of getting Trump re-elected precisely because of the conduct of the media.
    The problem with Mika and her demand that Twitter silence the President is not unlike the problem millions of Americans are experiencing in the midst of the Covid-19 virus with dictatorial lockdown orders from various Democrat governors.
    The real – and revealing – problem here is that, in this case, if one scratches the surface of a liberal like Mika, what one finds underneath is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-lord/2020/05/23/hypocritical-mika-brzezinski-desperately-tries-censor-trump
    So Punch is upset with Joe laughing about the death of a staffer? Oh bother. Journalism has become just a license to lie.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Interesting that this whole Russiangate thang we have spent years odisproving every single punch (pun intended) by the unhinged Fake News has come down to being all about Iran.
    Iran and Flynn. Check out the last two posts on Scattershots if one wants to know more. The same cast of characters, the same folks on the FBI’s payola.

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  8. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    Surely you recall when Trump said he was only kidding when he was caught in a tape bragging about sexually assaulting women-you know the ol Pussy Grabbing chant trom Trump. He said hs was just kidding-right (locker room talk). Why not ask the 25 women who have accused him of sexual assault.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE is unfamiliar with the legal notion that guilty pleas can be withdrawn either before prosecution or if shown to have been elicited under duress. In Flynn’s case it was both. However to a liberal, under their special legal system, none of this is understandable when such misunderstandings serve their narrative.

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  10. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    THE BIGGEST DEBUNKED CONSPIRACY THEORY OF THEM ALL
    “Of all the lies the Democrats and their allies in the mainstream media have told about President Trump, the claim that Trump is a tool of the Russians stands out for its audacity I’m not surprised that the Dems/MSM went big with their lying. However, it astounds me that intelligent people I know who are outside of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media somehow found merit in this claim. I guess if you hate Trump enough, you will believe anything about him.”……..
    “That’s just common sense. Arms control agreements are meaningless if they can be violated with impunity. Arms control can succeed only if the parties to agreements hold one another to them.
    President Obama and his crew must have understood this. However, they were obsessed with “resetting” U.S. relations with Russia and, later, were unwilling to acknowledge the failure of this policy.
    Like Obama, Trump wanted a fresh start with Russian relations when he took office. Unlike Obama, he wasn’t willing to turn a blind eye to Russia’s bad behavior in the name of a “reset.”
    This was obvious from the start. Yet, Democrats and their media allies peddled their lie that Trump was a tool of Vladimir Putin.
    They won’t be held accountable. They won’t look back. They have simply moved on to their next package of slanders.“
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/the-biggest-debunked-conspiracy-theory-of-them-all.php
    Yep, we will never hear about a Paul Emery Presents “Apology Tour”. Never happen. Psychopaths sociopaths, and those with TDS are that way.
    “They won’t be held accountable. They won’t look back. They have simply moved on to their next package of slanders.“

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  11. Mary Wanna Avatar

    I SAW THIS JACKASS TWEET BY OUR JACKASS PRESIDENT BEING A BIG BABY – Ann Coulter
    “At 4:30 in the morning Saturday night — well, technically, Sunday morning — I went on Twitter for the first time in a while and I saw this jackass tweet by our jackass president being a big baby blaming Jeff Sessions for the Russia investigation once again, something that was entirely, 100% his fault,” she explained to host Derek Hunter. She had been “trying to enjoy [her] pandemic” before the tweet annoyed her, she quipped.
    She pointed out it was Trump, not then-attorney general Jeff Sessions, who did an interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt after firing then-FBI director James Comey, prompting the Russia investigation.
    “He goes on Lester Holt and he has to be the big man,” the conservative commentator said, imitating the president: “‘No, no. It was my decision. It was my decision to fire the FBI director. This Russia thing it was just getting out of control.’ I mean, he rambles and says lots of stuff, but he clearly said that he fired the FBI director because of the Russia investigation.”

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  12. Walt Avatar

    Flail, Emery,, flail!! Trump said “could” You man Joe “did”.
    But keep bring up past lost positions Emery,, nope,, you still don’t get tired of losing. Thanks for affirming that.
    You claimed to not smoke weed…. Now might be a good time to start. Mary should be able to hook you up.

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey, what’s that noise? Nothing, its just creepy grampa joe in the basement wailing SAY IT AINT SO! –
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/05/26/kudlow-the-third-quarter-could-be-the-fastest-growing-quarter-in-u-s-history/
    😉

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    AS of now the Judge has not dropped the case against Flynn George. Save your victory dance till then. It’s a moot point though because Trump would have pardoned him anyway.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I think the appeals court will spank the Sullivan judge. He is forgetting who his bosses are and will be schooled. Flynn is innocent and never lied but he was coerced to save his son.

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1250pm – Paul, you have it backwards. The judge has no case to drop when the contending parties decide not proceed to prosecute and defend in the judge’s court. The only victory dance required here is by those who understand the legal process itself. It doesn’t appear that you are to be among the dancers.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Emery still trying to save face? Ain’t work’n.
    A wise man once said. “When hole already too deep to get out of,, STOP DIGGING.” Charlie Chan.. Not Emery,,, He’s going for broke.. Or China.. Whichever comes first.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    So.. Emery clam up about Joe Scarborough joking about killing his intern. Yet Trump is supposed to get banned from Twitter for bringing it up?
    Not going to happen.
    Ya’ might want to put some salve under that ponytail to ease the hurt.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Margot Cleveland has not been wrong once…..and she has followed every detail of the Flynn hearings and saga….when it wasn’t news.
    One knowledgeable woman’s opinion clerked for the Appeals Courts for years:
    ‘It’s Not The Trump Administration Politicizing Flynn’s Case, It’s Judge Sullivan’
    Those condemning the DOJ’s decision to drop the charges against Michael Flynn ignore the growing evidence of misconduct by both the FBI and the federal prosecutors
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/26/its-not-the-trump-administration-politicizing-flynns-case-its-judge-sullivan/

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  20. Walt Avatar

    Emery is acting like judge Sullivan.. wants that conviction any way possible. Will make any excuse, make anything up to get it.
    So Emery,, you deny Flynn was set up by the FBI?

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Twitter Apologizes Over Trump’s Scarborough ‘Cold Case’ Tweets But Won’t Remove Them Or The President’s Account
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/twitter-apologizes-over-trumps-scarborough-cold-case-tweets-but-wont-remove-them-or-the-presidents-account

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  22. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    good news, everyone! Swiss brothels have determined safe positions and will be opening soon.
    Doggy style and Reverse Cowgirl are approved; face masks are to be worn.

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  23. Mary Wanna Avatar

    About time,
    “Twitter labels Trump’s tweets with a fact-check for the first time”

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 26 May 2020 at 02:52 PM
    Oh my…….look at those stumpy little T Rex arms flail……how ever do you cling to your Ann Coulter doll with those!

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 2:52 pm
    Ride ‘em cowboy, Yippee Ki Yay. Is the missionary position on the approved list? Asking for a friend.
    ———
    Oh my. You would think after his weekend Twitter burst, the Troll Master would lay off for a day or a day and a half. But, noooooooo. The Troll Master is alive and kicking.
    ‘President Trump: There’s No Way Mail-In Ballots Will Be Anything Less Than Substantially Fraudulent’
    https://www.oann.com/president-trump-theres-no-way-mail-in-ballots-will-be-anything-less-than-substantially-fraudulent/
    Amazing. One guy and a Twitter machine punching through walls. Gotta smoke them out.

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Fact check? LOL!! Good thing George doesn’t “fact check” your happy ass “Mary”. Is it a fact you name is “Mary”?
    You actually a chick? F*#! no.
    You getting bent over by Trump? “100% accurate”….

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  27. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Mark the tape George at 304pm, Lil Smokey is at it again

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  28. Walt Avatar

    AAAAwwwwww Marty crying again? Put on those size 45 big girl panties and deal with it.
    Forget you outed yourself as a dude?
    Besides.. by internet law,, there is no crime of slander for TROLLS. By definition, they ain’t who or what they say say they are.
    I got my TROLL poke’n pointy stick all sharpened up.

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  29. Mary Wanna Avatar

    What do you have to insult me about POSPOTUS here?
    “Trump Bashes Marine Vet Congressman As An ‘American Fraud’ On Memorial Day
    Donald Trump picked Memorial Day to attack Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Pa.), a Marine Corps veteran, as an “American fraud” and “puppet for Crazy Nancy Pelosi” as the president endorsed the lawmaker’s rival on Monday.”

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 26 May 2020 at 03:35 PM
    What do you have to insult me about POSPOTUS here?

    ….you know why.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I’m telling GEORGE! Yep, we got ourselves a regular hall monitor in our midst. Need to please the elders. Daddy issues.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Gotta share the best stuff.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/26/donald-trump-shares-dancing-pallbearers-meme-for-joe-biden-campaign/
    Joe could only wish of this was out.
    Now Emery on the other hand still has time to get these guys
    booked.

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  33. Walt Avatar

    Cheat by mail,, well it didn’t take long…
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/26/usps-mail-carrier-charged-with-fraud-after-allegedly-tampering-with-vote-by-mail-requests/
    Let the tampering begin!! So it “don’t happen”,,, Emery?

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  34. Walt Avatar

    🎵 🎵 Where have all the Libbys gone?🎵 🎵
    Emery should recognise the tune…….

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Yes they did it in their own sworn testimony! –
    Similarly, Dr. Mary Gatter, the former PPLA medical director who became well-known for her joke at the end of one of the videos that she would like “a Lamborghini” in exchange for the aborted baby body parts, testified that PPFA provided a “waiver” to PPLA to begin a program with for-profit biomedical company Novogenix.
    The video also features sworn testimony from Dr. Dorothy Furgerson, chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood Mar Monte (PPMM), the largest Planned Parenthood affiliate in the country.
    CMP explained in a press statement:
    Dr. Furgerson signed PPMM’s contract with StemExpress to sell fetal body parts to StemExpress per specimen “determined in the clinic to be usable”, and Dr. Furgerson’s endorsement appears on a StemExpress brochure handed out at National Abortion Federation meetings advertising “fiscal rewards” and “financial profits” to the abortion clinics who provided fetal tissue to StemExpress. When asked if the purpose of the brochure was “to obtain more potential sources of fetal tissue,” Dr. Furgerson testified, “Yes, I understood that that’s what they were trying to do.”
    “The time has come for federal consequences for Planned Parenthood,” Daleiden said in a statement, adding:
    Planned Parenthood lied to the public and to Congress, but now there is no longer any reasonable doubt that Planned Parenthood sold fetal body parts, commodifying living children in the womb and treating pregnant women like a cash crop. The U.S. Department of Justice must escalate the enforcement of laws against fetal trafficking to the highest level of priority.
    From the release of the first CMP video, Planned Parenthood and its media and political allies have adhered to the narrative that the videos of its staff engaged in haggling over the price of aborted baby body parts were “deceptively edited.”
    However, in January 2019, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed the opposite.
    Judge Edith H. Jones, a Ronald Reagan nominee who wrote for a three-judge panel, rebuked a lower district court, asserting, “The district court stated, inaccurately, that the CMP video had not been authenticated and suggested that it may have been edited.”
    Planned Parenthood has yet to be prosecuted for any of the allegations related to profits from the sales of the body parts of babies aborted in its clinics.
    In June 2019, Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and his predecessor Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), current chairman of the Committee on Finance, wrote to Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray, seeking an update on the federal investigation that was supposedly launched in 2017 into the allegations raised, in part, through the video documentation by CMP.
    The senators asked Barr and Wray to respond to their inquiry no later than July 2.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/26/planned-parenthood-officials-testimony-about-fetal-tissue-sales-contradicts-public-claims/
    😉

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The wanna be ussr thinks we are not paying attention but they would be wrong to think that. Our professional fighting force is on laser focused on them and the chi coms and the jihadis. –
    “While the Russian aircraft was operating in international airspace, this interaction was irresponsible,” the statement said. “We expect them to operate within international standards set to ensure safety.”
    The incident on Tuesday involved two Russian Su-35 fighters and a P-8A. The fighter jets took “close station of the spy plane, the statement said. On Tuesday, the U.S. accused Russia of sending fighter jets to Libya in support of Russian mercenaries helping a renegade force against U.N.-backed forces in Tripoli.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-russian-fighter-jets-buzz-us-spy-plane-over-mediterranean
    😉

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I will put Flynn here so you can read timeline. The FBI did not have a counterintelligence reason nor a criminal reason to even interview Flynn in the first place. John Solomon.
    “The FBI documents that put Barack Obama in the ‘Obamagate’ narrative
    Agents fretted sharing Flynn intel with departing Obama White House would become fodder for ‘partisan axes to grind.’
    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-documents-put-barack-obama-obamagate-narrative

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  38. Walt Avatar

    It’s feeding time for Proggys,,, with a slingshot.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/26/twitter-has-not-fact-checked-adam-schiff-false-claims-of-russian-collusion/
    Yup, you get a boner when Trump gets “fact checked”,, well
    how bout Schiff for brains?
    There would be page after page for “false” next to pencil necks tweets.

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Oh well the fake news is in high lather as the trend is against them. Too many liberal alphas who think they game it –
    Former acting DNI Richard Grenell slammed Politico on Tuesday over its report that he was joining the Trump campaign, calling it “fake news.”
    Politico ran a story claiming that Grenell was aiding President Trump’s re-election team, specifically in “fundraising and strategy.” The reporting was cited by “two people familiar with the matter.”
    However, after the story was published, Grenell flatly denied Politico’s reporting.
    “Fake news. Do you even check before writing? What has happened to Washington DC media?!” Grenell reacted to a now-deleted tweet from the Politico reporter who had shared the story.
    Following Grenell’s tweet, Politico updated its report with his response and reiterated that he “hadn’t responded to a request for comment” prior to publication. No editor’s note or correction was made.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/richard-grenell-accuses-politico-of-fake-news-over-report-that-hes-joining-trump-campaign
    😉

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This should be elder abuse. Imagine being laid up in a nursing home and finding out you voted for a Democrat. That just might send you off to the Great Beyond. My uncle never voted Democrat until after his death.
    ‘Suspected 2018 Voter Fraud Uncovered In Texas’ Largest County’
    https://www.oann.com/suspected-2018-voter-fraud-uncovered-in-texas-largest-county/

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  41. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Trump toady Bill Tozer loves one America News Network, home of the most stupid journalists on the planet.

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  42. Mary Wanna Avatar

    One America News Network reporter to Donald Trump, “are you planning to pardon Obama”?

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  43. Walt Avatar

    Here ya’ go Marty in drag, Your all a’twit

    The Twitter official responsible for the platform’s fact-checking policy has tweeted that members of the Trump administration are “Nazis,” among other false and inflammatory statements on the platform. ”
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/26/twitter-fact-checker-claimed-trump-actual-nazis-mocked-flyover-states/
    So much for being “factual”.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Best short video to date.
    CREEPY JOE; #HeebieJeebieJoe
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/creepy-joe.php

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  45. Walt Avatar

    More on the lies(of omission) of Twitter
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/27/twitters-trump-fact-check-does-not-disclose-company-partnered-with-groups-pushing-mail-in-ballots/
    “It may be instructive that Twitter seized on the mail-in balloting tweets as the first issue from Trump’s rapid fire social media feed to slap with a fact-check label. Twitter did not disclose in its so-called fact-check it is partners with two groups financed by leftist donors that engage in voter participation efforts, including drives pushing mail-in balloting.
    Twitter sits on the “Premier Partner” list of one of those groups alongside ViacomCBS, the merger of Viacom and CBS. Twitter’s so-called fact-check about Trump’s mail-in balloting cited CBS political reporter Grace Segers vouching for mail-in voting.”
    Kinda like “Mary” whining as being publicly outed as a guy.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Placer County? Getting closer. Poor LE.
    ZERO BAIL AND ZERO BRAINS
    Meanwhile, our sainted Governor Gratin Awesome “called it a ‘core value’ of his administration to eliminate prisons…”
    There’s a backlash building.
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/zero-bail-and-zero-brains.php

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Wow!!!!
    Trumps approval rating is down by 17 in Gregory’s favorite poll, Rasmussen. Worst rating since Dec 2017. The bottom is falling out for the Circle of Jerks idol.
    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
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