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[While I'm much in favor of opening up the economy sooner than later, I can't understand the Trump/Cuomo pissing match now going on (here).  The President is all wet in asserting that it is only he who gets "to call the shots" on opening up the country.  The country was not 'closed' on the basis of some federal imperative, and so it does not stand that it awaits the President's removal of such a non-existent imperative.  In the meanwhile, the governors are in charge of lawful public intercourse in their states.  As usual, Trump is burning  up political capital better put to use elsewhere, and the lamestream is eating it up.  gjr]

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  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Please refresh me Scott on a few things that TTump said or did on this blog that you disagreed with.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    That’s Emery,, when the real liars are put forth, he runs for cover. How bout those LIB liars Emery? They are OK in your book. Silence speaks louder than words.
    LIB lies “good”.. Trump’s fictitious lie,, “TRY and make it look bad”.
    You and Mary really need to start dating.

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  3. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Scotto: “You have no proof that scenes or anyone else that posts here believes ‘everything’ Trump says.”
    Honestly, I mean seriously honestly, I hardly keep track of anything he says. I do keep an eye on legislation and the more obvious policy things that happen. It’s hard to believe/notbelieve things you don’t read or hear. The clickbait and op-ed nature of MSM leads you to foreign newspapers.
    Perhaps that’s why there’s a disconnect, that and the general concept of Emerianism. I always wonder what the fuss is about since I spend about a minute a year reading Presidential tweets, watching a news conference (zero minutes in that case), or reading articles about tweets and news conferences. If I hear about it, it’s here and usually just don’t care. I guess that counts as ‘believing’.
    Maybe it’s the difference of viewing government as a big clumsy organization that produces rules and regulations and the rare direct action vs. seeing it all as one big World Wrestling Federation sporting event. If yer a WWF guy, yer gonna love polls. Dudes like Paul are all about strawmen. Everybody is as ridiculous as them but just on the other side of some arbitrary ‘argument’.

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    scotto: “”Gee – why did you let us do what we wanted to?”
    they whine.
    “You should have made us behave better!””
    Oh well, it’s just one of those Prime Directives of politicians. If you don’t want to be blamed, preemptively blame someone else. It actually works and probably is an unchanged maxim since Pharaoh’s time.

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  5. Scott O Avatar

    Paul 6:18 – Nice try.
    You made the statement and now you have to back it up.

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I must have missed the President posting here oh great pony tail of ignorance –
    Please refresh me Scott on a few things that TTump said or did on this blog
    😉

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  7. Scott O Avatar

    scenes 6:26 – “Honestly, I mean seriously honestly, I hardly keep track of anything he says. I do keep an eye on legislation and the more obvious policy things that happen. It’s hard to believe/notbelieve things you don’t read or hear.”
    Exactly – I hardly pay attention to most all the blather out of DC no matter who is in office.
    The CV19 business is a good example of how there is a huge difference in how folks react to an on-going and highly fluid situation. Our nation’s capital (no matter who is POTUS) is probably the last place I would look to for informing myself in planning a course of personal action.
    Others think they need to hang breathlessly by the wireless for the Great White Father to assure them.

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    Don – damn near spit my after-dinner Moscato through my nose!
    I’d better get right on that.
    Lets see – need my secret de-coder ring and mind reader tin-foil hat.

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  9. Scott O Avatar

    Mary Waaaah! 6:07 – It’s pay-walled. Any other outlets have the story?

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    ScottO @719-
    Is that some new nasal wash for the xirus? LOL
    😉

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  11. Scott O Avatar

    Don 7:38 – I could buy a case and start the trials.
    If I’m clear of disease in 6 months, I’ll declare it medicine and worthy of being proscribed!
    Full disclosure: I have no financial interest beyond what’s left in the bottle.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    NOTHING coherent has been coming out of Paul Wanna. They got an early start on tomorrow. There will be a nuke cloud of pot smoke rising from Nevada City by noon.
    If a post shows up by any LIB, it will be in hippie speak.

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  13. L Avatar
    L

    Seems there might be a great opportunity for Republican Governors beckoning. Trump has dropped the green flag and the field is free to open the throttle with all due deliberation. The leftists are demanding their leaders remain buttoned down, so let ’em.
    Governor Gavin might do well to join the brave and let Cali assist the red states in getting the blue back on their feet, a gesture which can only be accomplished by successfully reopening your economy. In fairness, with the miraculous exception of California, the blue states have been, on average, hit harder,probably because they are more urbanized (=densely populated).
    Protect the old and infirm, otherwise follow Admiral Farragut and damn the torpedoes.
    Otherwise, we perish by slowly freezing in place and the bad guys have won.
    (Trying not to make this too difficult for our leftist attendees to understand.)

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    L 9:20 – Good morning, campers. This is certainly a good reason to show why we have a republic composed of different states. The feds have control over natl port of entry, etc but the states should be able to organize and issue rules of commerce to suit their own needs – which are widely disparate.
    Even within states there needs to be flexibility to match the conditions with the precautions and rules.
    The left loves to clamor for Trump to issue directives unless the directives clash with their personal sensibilities.
    No matter what any level of govt says – your own personal conduct will ultimately make the biggest difference.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scott @ 7:30 am
    “No matter what any level of govt says – your own personal conduct will ultimately make the biggest difference”
    I could not agree more
    ————————————————-
    Off thread…
    ‘Don’t Let The Washington Post Get Away With Memory-Holing Its Anti-Kavanaugh Campaign’
    Ruth Marcus and others at the Washington Post who led the effort to destroy Brett Kavanaugh’s life based on unsubstantiated allegations know that what they did was evil.
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/20/dont-let-washington-post-get-away-with-memory-holing-its-anti-kavanaugh-campaign/

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    REPORTER: “Why would the U.S. give a grant to China?”
    TRUMP: “When did you hear the grant was made?”
    REPORTER: “2015.”
    TRUMP: “Who is president then, I wonder?”

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  17. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@7:41 AM

    A blast from the past:

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 23 September 2018 at 10:01 PM
    “The gusher is just beginning. What a hoot.
    Attorney Michael Avenatti tweeted Sunday that he is now representing a woman who has “credible” information about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his high school pal Mark Judge.

    “I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge,” Avenatti tweeted. “We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify. The nomination must be withdrawn.””

    ‘cuz, ya know, at KVMR News, anything you want to be true probably is.

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    FORGET IT, CHRIS
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/forget-it-chris.php
    Talk about talking to a fence post with a face painted on it.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The 17 Rules
    1. Basically, you can’t leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
    2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.
    3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.
    4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.
    5. Gloves won’t help, but they can still help.
    6. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it’s important to GO OUT.
    7. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.
    8. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there.
    9. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick or be contagious without having symptoms.
    10. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it’s better not to go out, well, but no….
    11. If you are sick, you can’t go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.
    12. You can get restaurant good delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn’t wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated.
    13. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
    14. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn’t say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment, Oh no, not necessarily.
    15. The virus stay in the air – well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay in the recommended social distance however in certain circumstances yo should maintain a great distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
    16. We count the number of deaths but we don’t know how many epople are infected as we have only tested so far those who were “almost dead” to find out if that’s what they will die of…
    17. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates….but we must no longer be locked up for that?
    Credit: Anonymous

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  20. Mary Wanna Avatar

    World’s biggest hypocrite! Trump talks out both sides of his ass!
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3475859665764285&set=a.103877902962495&type=3

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  21. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT@8:11AM
    Pelosi sez: “But also to say to everyone: we should come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken by our city. We know that there is concern surrounding tourism, traveling all throughout the world, but we think it’s very safe to be in Chinatown and hope that others will come. ”
    Somehow I’m hearing James Brown here.
    Come on down (come on down)
    Come on down (to Chinatown)
    Stay on the scene (come on down) Don’t use no chloroquine (come on down)

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 April 2020 at 08:21 AM
    World’s biggest hypocrite! Trump talks out both sides of his ass!

    …..still your president “Mary”.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 814am – I was wondering what the current rules were; thank you for digging them out Mr Tozer.

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  24. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Trump is savage. Type in http://www.donaldjtrump.com/ and then some random letters to get to the error message. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/846

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Barry Pruett | 20 April 2020 at 08:45 AM
    That is fabulous!
    Have you seen the “I’m with Joe” political ad generator….and the fun people are having with it?
    https://cheezburger.com/11204613/joe-biden-gets-trolled-with-his-cringey-im-on-team-joe-campaign

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of Facebook, stoned one,,
    Zuck is a “good” party member.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/04/20/mark-zuckerberg-lockdown-protests-are-misinformation-facebook-will-ban-organizers/
    Now if it was a Commie LIB doing the protesting,, well,, you know the post would stay up. and even promoted.

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  27. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Trump continues to hire from the bottom of the barrel,
    “Brett Giroir, the federal official overseeing coronavirus testing efforts, says that his experience working on vaccine development projects at Texas A&M University helped prepare him for this historic moment. He once said that his vaccine effort was so vital that “the fate of 50 million people will rely on us getting this done.”
    But after eight years of work on several vaccine projects, Giroir was told in 2015 he had 30 minutes to resign or he would be fired. His annual performance evaluation at Texas A&M, the local newspaper reported, said he was “more interested in promoting yourself” than the health science center where he worked. He got low marks on being a “team player.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brett-giroir-trumps-testing-czar-was-forced-out-of-a-job-developing-vaccine-projects-now-hes-on-the-hot-seat/2020/04/19/b061b968-7e89-11ea-8de7-9fdff6d5d83e_story.html

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  28. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Walt: Lockdown protestors are of the same ilk as the Charlottesville “very fine people”.

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mary Wannabee @ 9:51 am
    That’s our government and our taxpayer dollars at work! Nothing new under the sun. As Dr. Rebane has pointed out, government is the employer of last resort. Just look at the credentials of the idiot who wrote Common Core. It would have done more good if we never had Common Core, as evidenced by our liberal education students falling further and further behind the world.
    Nothing new under the sun.

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  30. Mary Wanna Avatar

    The majority of sailors on the Roosevelt are asymptomatic. That means lots of younger people are clueless vectors.
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/16/secdef-majority-of-roosevelt-sailors-with-covid-19-are-asymptomatic-flattop-still-wartime-ready/

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Social Shredding’: Defiant Residents Grab Shovels, Dirt Bikes After Cali Authorities Dump Tons Of Sand In Skateparks For ‘Social Distancing’
    “California authorities tried to stop skateboarders by dumping literally tons of sand into at least two area skateparks in an effort to enforce so-called “social distancing.” However, the effort was for naught, it seems.
    Young residents in California responded to the government’s extreme social distancing enforcement action by grabbing a few shovels, buckets, and booms and turning at least one sand-filled skatepark into a park for both skating and dirt biking.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/social-shredding-defiant-residents-grab-shovels-dirt-bikes-after-cali-authorities-dump-tons-of-sand-in-skateparks-for-social-distancing
    “and dirt biking.” When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Dirty biking? Nice touch. And they say youth is wasted on the young. Skateboarding in not a crime, lol.

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  32. Scott O Avatar

    Mary 7:59 – Thanks for the link. You did notice the story was full of weasel words and there was a complete lack of actual examples or links or proof of any false information.
    I wasn’t aware that our civil liberties had all been done away with during the pandemic. If other folks opinions frighten you, I would suggest you stop reading news articles.
    As for the 8:21 – Quite an embarrassing quote for the Donald.
    Could you now explain why ongoing examples of major hypocrisy don’t apply to the left?
    No, I didn’t think you could.
    Now for the 9:51 – There’s no evidence he is technically incompetent, just gets a D in ‘plays well with others’.
    Sounds like Trumps kind of guy.

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  33. Scott O Avatar

    Mary Waaaah! 9:53 – “Walt: Lockdown protestors are of the same ilk as the Charlottesville “very fine people”.
    Ah, there’s that lefty bigotry on full display.
    They all look the same to you, right Mary?

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 April 2020 at 09:53 AM
    Walt: Lockdown protestors are of the same ilk as the Charlottesville “very fine people”.

    …..still your president “Mary”.

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  35. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Democratic politics in a nutshell.
    “These are strange days, indeed. But in what alternative universe can anyone imagine Joe Biden actually making it through a presidential election campaign? The party he supposedly leads stuffed him into a broom closet last week after he gibbered through a session with CNN’s leading light Anderson Cooper. They can’t just hide the poor fellow there until November 3.
    Asked about reopening everyday life in America, Mr. Biden said, “You know, there’s a… uh, during World War II, uh… you know, where Roosevelt came up with… a thing, uh, that, uh… you know, was totally different than a… than the… the, it’s called… he called it the… you know, the World War II… he had the war… the War Production Board….”
    Everybody knows he’s dimmer than a night-lite, and everybody’s pretending it’s okay. There’s no analog in history for any faction putting up such an empty vessel for high office. Granted, the Democratic Party has trafficked in unreality for years, from Crossfire Hurricane through UkraineGate ­ — with side-trips like trannies in women’s sports — but those capers were just old-fashioned scams. Joe Biden for President is Emperor’s-New-Clothes caliber deceit, requiring a rank-and-file so marinated in falsehood they couldn’t tell you the difference between a red light and a green light.
    etc.”
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-placeholder/

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 20 April 2020 at 10:19 AM
    Everybody knows he’s dimmer than a night-lite, and everybody’s pretending it’s okay.

    Everybody is pretending it’s OK because anyone with at least two functioning brain cells on TEAM EVIL knows that a vote for Biden is really a vote for the running mate. I’m guessing Harris (I’m still pissed about losing Georges Dropout Derby)…..as the dems seems even more desperate than usual to shoehorn someone in who has more than a single Wokemon card to play in The Game of Life – Diversity Edition™.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    I’m also still pissed about html tags!

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now its time to take advantage and do what we could never do say all the socialist dems –
    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) on Monday announced plans to form “The Reimagine New York Task Force” aimed at determining how to reform state policies after the Chinese coronavirus pandemic subsides.
    In his daily press briefings, Cuomo said he wants to use the task force to “reimagine what we want society to be” with a focus on “better” public transportation, healthcare, housing, and public safety.
    “Let’s use this as a moment to really plan change that we could normally never do unless you had this situation,” the governor told reporters about the plan.
    Cuomo also provided an update on the daily coronavirus death toll, stating that 478 New Yorkers died from the illness on Sunday, showing the daily total has fallen for three straight days. As of Monday, New York has 242,786 confirmed infections and 13,869 deaths, according to data tracked by Johns Hopkins University. New York City, the nation’s leading hot spot, has 134,436 cases alone and 10,022 deaths.
    “That number is still horrifically high,” said Cuomo. “If you’re looking for the optimist’s view, it’s not as bad as it was.”
    “Emergency rooms are still at or over capacity—but it’s better than it was,” he added.
    Cuomo also warned that cuts of 20 percent to schools, hospitals, could happen unless the federal government provides aid to fill the budget gaps.
    “The state budget is going to be a function of what the federal government gives us,” the New York Democrat said. “I’m worried.”
    Cuomo also proposed a 50 percent bonus in hazard pay for frontline workers, saying: “Thanks is nice, but also recognition of their efforts and their sacrifice is also appropriate.”
    Cuomo’s remarks come as New York begins the state’s largest-ever antibody test with 3,000 residents.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/20/gov-andrew-cuomo-announces-task-force-to-reimagine-new-york/
    😉

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 April 2020 at 09:59 AM
    That means lots of younger people are clueless vectors.

    You should encourage them to drop by and visit you.
    Just sayin……

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  40. Walt Avatar

    Still not a peep from Emery and his lie’n LIBs?
    Not surprised in the least.
    But Marty is posting like a doper possesed.. (and out of weed)

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Infuriating’: Nikki Haley Unloads On Illinois Dems For Trying To Use Crisis To Fund Its ‘Corrupt’ Pension System
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/infuriating-nikki-haley-unloads-on-illinois-dems-for-trying-to-get-coronavirus-money-for-its-pension-crisis

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Schifflips bin lying
    Adam Schiff’s Dirty Impeachment Tactics Coming to Light
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/adam_schiffs_dirty_impeachment_tactics_coming_to_light.html

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  43. Mary Wanna Avatar

    Scott: Ben Chris and Aaron are weasels hence the weasel words.

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Nothing new under the sun. I have been bitching about the UNearned Income Credit since the Reagan years. Ripe with fraud.
    Government Spent Nearly $200 Billion on “Errors” Last Year
    https://bongino.com/government-spent-nearly-200-billion-on-errors-last-year?

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  45. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    “In his daily press briefings, Cuomo said he wants to use the task force to “reimagine what we want society to be” with a focus on “better” public transportation, healthcare, housing, and public safety.”
    How about a society where people from all over the world don’t live cheek by jowl. Over time they’ve managed to build water and sewer systems that allow over-high concentrations of primates, but controlling the air will be a different matter. San Francisco doesn’t even appear to be able to build sewers.
    There’s something a little grotesque about overdense living.

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  46. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 April 2020 at 12:47 PM
    ……still your President “Mary” .

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Proggy Press pissed… Trump takes the to the woodshed.
    Where is Emery? more of his LIE’n press… Oh.. it’s not Trump doing the lie’n. He’s not interested.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/19/unfit-to-print-trump-coronavirus-briefing-paula-reid-cbs/
    Marty should read it. Proggy Press ain’t going to publish their own ass beating.

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