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"A house divided against itself cannot stand." A. Lincoln

George Rebane

[This is the addended and updated transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 5 February 2020.]

The nationally prominent public figure and liberal Daniel Patrick Moynihan gave us the well-known shibboleth that "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."  Moynihan was a man of many talents, serving as adviser to several presidents of both parties, Harvard college professor, ambassador to India and the UN, and as a four-term senator from New York.  He died in 2003, a bit too early to witness the rejection and even falsification of what at first reading seems like an eminently reasonable and widely applicable statement.

Today in 2020 we have long acknowledged and adopted the existence of at least two sets of facts, held by each side of a deeply polarized country.  That we do not agree on the facts which support our stands on public policies is the prime reason why we can no longer emulate that great Texas politician and 36th US president Lyndon Johnson, when he would put his big arm around an uncompromising opponent’s shoulder and utter the biblical invitation from Isaiah to “Come now, let us reason together.”  But the prerequisite for reasoning together is to have some common ground that usually begins by accepting some common collection of critical facts.


The most recent confirmation of this ‘two nations in one country’ reality was on coast-to-coast display last night during President Trump’s state of the union speech.  As all presidents before him, Trump touted his administration’s accomplishments, citing supportive data, none of which was accepted by the Democrat members of Congress in attendance.  Their discomfort and dissent was visible to all, and visibly managed by Speaker Pelosi who sat prominently behind the President.  She then underlined our pervasive and persistent polarization by standing and dramatically tearing up her copy of the speech as the president’s presentation concluded – an historical bit of kabuki that highlighted impeachment as the latest widening of the chasm which already separates us beyond anyone’s ability or even desire to bridge the break.

Both parties and their loyal constituencies have their own ‘facts’ about almost everything and every issue that describes our country.  And we acquire these facts from very different sources, partisan sources that are not respected by the other party.  Our mainstream media has always been left-leaning, as reported by numerous studies over the years, and is now unabashedly the voice of the progressive Democratic Party.  What’s most disconcerting and divisive is that the MSM self-censors news that doesn’t support the Left’s narrative and worldview.

Examples of this abound, but a recent one is worth noting.  Judicial Watch is a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation that litigates and uses discovery to investigate and uncover misconduct and corruption by government officials and politicians.  In a January 2020 special report (‘Illegal Alien Criminals: A Serious Threat to Public Safety and National Security’), Judicial Watch documents from cited government sources the size and impact of criminal illegal aliens in America, and the progressive programs that shield and succor them in the various sanctuary jurisdictions nationwide.  The numbers will astonish you.  A couple from the tip of this mountain of information will serve.  From the most recent 2018 data available, Dept of Homeland Security reports that Hispanic aliens committed twice as many federal crimes as the did the white and black population segments combined.  The US Bureau of Prisons reports that almost 40% of inmates in their custody are known or suspected aliens.  The Department of Justice tells us that non-US citizens accounted for almost two out of three federal arrests in 2018.

These numbers are both hidden by the MSM and ignored by the Left, as it continues to promote porous border policies that invite and enable illegal entry of hordes of aliens who neither share our culture or values, and whose numbers include the thousands of criminals and terrorists in waiting who are sheltered in sanctuaries until some are caught and imprisoned, deported, or released to repeat their crimes.

We witness this daily as we see one polarized side doing its best to fundamentally transform an America that they hold to be an historical aberration of evil, and the other side fighting a losing battle to maintain the foundations of our exceptional nation that made it the shining beacon for the world.  Today these are the two irreconcilable nations within common borders that chafe ever more stridently against each other.

My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively.  However, my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

[Addendum]  Another more local example of the Great Divide already present in our county is the rise of the Sunrise Movement organization as reported in the 5feb20 Union (here).  Their avowed purpose is to mobilize young people (primarily high schoolers) into “Strike Circles” who will then militate against “economic equality and environmental degradation.”  They vociferously support the Green New Deal as “an economic vision for the 21st century” that promises “millions of jobs across the country aiming to create, distribute and implement clean energy technology. The achievement and protection of clean air, water and food. Net-zero greenhouse gas emissions and the inclusion of poor communities in America’s post-modern economy.”

This is one more of the far-Left organizations of the naïve mobilizing the ignorant.  The movement’s “three prong strategy” consists of plans to “organize, vote (or promote voting), and strike.”  In Nevada County they are introducing their organization and hoping to set up one a local Strike Circle of young and intellectually innocent in time to participate in their national strike on Earth Day 22 April.

Given the aggregate academic stats for California’s public school students, it is highly likely that these young people are mostly reading-challenged and innumerate. They have no means of evaluating any climate related arguments.  (more here, here, and here)  But they do understand and respond to simplistic slogans, especially when presented with compelling graphics.  This approach has been the Left’s strategy for almost two hundred years, get them indoctrinated and signed up before they know anything about the realworld or how it works.

[6feb20 update]  Here is a prime example of the polarization of facts.  As these pages have archived, our liberal readers have continually countered the news and data available to all who can read that California has increasingly systemic problems with its economy, infrastructure, taxes, regulations, and an ongoing exodus of commerce and workers.  The leftwing mind can parse none of these facts, and instead, substitute their own, which characterize our state as the progressive paragon for the rest of the Union with its legal residents and illegal aliens happy dancing in the streets.

This is confirmed by none other than ex-NYC mayor Mike Bloomberg, on his way to buying the Democratic nomination for president, demonstrating once more that money is the mother’s milk of politics.  He tells his constituents, “I think that California can serve as a great example … something the rest of the country looks up to.”

In the realworld we have ‘Stinking, shrinking California vs. fantastic, flourishing Florida – A tale of two states’ wherein Ed Pozzuoli on Fox Business provides the data that underpins and explains what’s happening in the once golden state.  RR readers and most of the nation know that the source of this travesty is decades of one-party collectivist governance supported by a growing uninformed and ever more dependent electorate.  Once again we see that ‘if there’s a problem, first look to government as its cause’ – a fundamental tenet of Rebane Doctrine.

[7feb20 update]  Trump’s SOTUS was all lies declare the Dems led by Team Nancy.  This was their purported reason for their public pout during the speech, and now they’re convincing their light thinking constituents through their own lies about the event.  A more sober check of the important claims Trump made is contained in ‘Fact-checking 11 of Trump’s Claims in the State of the Union’.

Another topsy-turvy turn of facts is our progressives' spin of the ideal life in euro-socialist countries.  The reality about everything from healthcare, employment, social disharmony, and disappearance of longstanding cultural icons in these lands is either hidden by the lamestream from the American public, or just blatantly misrepresented so that the all-absorbing local lefties can tell their grassroots neighbors of the happy life across the sea which the current Dem clown car of candidates promises to replicate here.  A taste of this is documented in 'France Says Au Revoir to the Cafe'.

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149 responses to “We do have our own facts (updated 7feb20)”

  1. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It seems the chi coms like having their own numbers –
    On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled “Epidemic Situation Tracker”, showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.
    The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.
    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
    😉
    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594
    😉

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Facts and fact checkers.
    Fact-Checkers Have Become the Janissaries of the Obama Legacy
    “They hide their worldview behind a patina of impartiality, claiming to be arbiters of the truth.
    For me, at least, the most grating aspect of contemporary “fact-checking” isn’t the dubious journalistic nature of the project, or the endlessly nitpicking of every Republican utterance, whether it’s particularly misleading or not. It’s the increasingly popular effort to try to credit Barack Obama for everything good that’s happened during Donald Trump’s presidency.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/trump-state-of-the-union-address-factchecking-factcheckers/#slide-1
    ————————-
    Little Miss Sunshine
    Greta Thunberg, perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize that’s now a parody of itself
    https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/02/04/michael-graham-greta-thunberg-the-perfect-candidate-for-a-nobel-peace-prize-that-has-become-a-parody-of-itself/

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  3. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,Yes,,,Trump lemmings do have their own facts,,,
    I believe the president, and in the president.
I believe the Senate is right to acquit the president. I believe a fair trial is one with no witnesses, and that the trial was therefore fair. I believe the House was unfair because it found evidence against him. I believe that if the president does something that he believes will get himself reelected, that’s in the public interest and can’t be the kind of thing that results in impeachment.
I believe former national security adviser John Bolton has no relevant testimony because he didn’t leave the White House on good terms.
I believe the president’s call was perfect. I believe he is deeply concerned about corruption in Ukraine. I believe the president can find Ukraine on a map.
I believe Ukraine interfered with the 2016 election, and that the intelligence community’s suggestion otherwise is a Deep State lie. I believe the Democratic National Committee server is in Ukraine, where CrowdStrike hid it….
    …continued here…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/george-conway-trump-i-believe/

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  4. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 06:46 AM
    ……brave, brave, brave Sir dugsKKKi, Sir dugsKKKi.

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  5. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,con’t…
    ‘’’I believe President Barack Obama placed a “tapp” on the president’s phones in 2016, and that the Russia investigation was a plot to keep him from winning, even though the plotters didn’t think he could win.
I believe former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was conflicted because he quit one of the president’s golf clubs, and that he and his Angry Democrats conducted a Witch Hunt to destroy the president. But I believe Mueller’s report totally exonerated the president, because it found no collusion and no obstruction.
I believe it would be okay for the president to say he grabs women by their p—–s, because he is a star, and stars are allowed to do that. But I believe he didn’t say that, even though he apologized for it, because I believe the “Access Hollywood” tape was doctored, because he said it was.
I believe E. Jean Carroll lied when she accused the president of rape, because he said she’s not his type. I believe the dozens of other women who accused him of sexual misconduct are also lying, because he would never think of grabbing them by their p—–s or anything else.’’’
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/george-conway-trump-i-believe/

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    “I believe I can fly………”
    I used to think that I could not go on
    And life was nothing but an awful song
    But now I know the meaning of true love
    I’m leaning on the everlasting arms
    If I can see it, then I can do it
    If I just believe it, there’s nothing to it
    I believe I can fly
    I believe I can touch the sky
    I think about it every night and day (Night and day)
    Spread my wings and fly away
    I believe I can soar
    I see me running through that open door
    I believe I can fly
    I believe I can fly
    I believe I can fly hoo
    See I was on the verge of breaking down
    Sometimes silence can seem so loud
    There are miracles in life I must achieve
    But first I know it starts inside of me, ho oh
    If I can see it hoo, then I can be it
    If I just believe it, there’s nothing to it
    I believe I can fly
    I believe I can…

    R. Kelly
    See dugsKKKi….there is hope…….someday another Clinton will come along and wash all your salty ham flavored tears away!

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    Odlaw 731am – Right on schedule is the arrival of Mr Hubris Maximus to assure us that only his side has the real, dyed-in-the-wool, bona fide facts. The rest merely have obviously cockeyed beliefs that they parade as facts. Point made.

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  8. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 06 February 2020 at 09:03 AM
    ,,,I am not sure I have made my point…I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link as it would be akin to snuggling with a werewolf during Wolf Moon…
    ,,,Did You Know?
    ”’To the Greeks, hubris referred to extreme pride, especially pride and ambition so great that they offend the gods and lead to one’s downfall. Hubris was a character flaw often seen in the heroes of classical Greek tragedy, including Oedipus and Achilles. The familiar old saying “Pride goeth before a fall” is basically talking about hubris.”’
    ,,,and who best represents Hubris Maximus…
    Yep,,,Roundtable Hero…drum roll please!!!… Dear Leader!!!

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 09:52 AM
    ,,,I am not sure I have made my point…I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link

    Well ya never know dugsKKKi……you should get back to us when he succumbs to Hubris……which according to PunchyBot was going to occur with The Mueller Report, Impeachment, any number of bad polls, Stormy Daniels, Locusts…….

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  10. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Say, this is a good idea. Those guys at /pol are always thinking.
    https://i.redd.it/semn93h5raf41.png

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  11. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: scenes | 06 February 2020 at 11:01 AM
    ,,,4chan…awesome!!!
    Is that where the Alt Ryghty’s posted the Iowa caucus poll data line???

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 11:29 AM
    Well I hope someone posted the count……democrats were dawdling as usual!

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  13. Scott O Avatar

    outlaw 11:29 – Which data did you want? The DNC’s? The Russians? Soro’s? Shadow Inc? Bernie’s? Booty-Judge’s?
    Or the actual count, including the clueless idiot that claimed she didn’t know Mayor Pete was gay because “it’s never been brought up”?

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  14. Scott O Avatar

    oddlaw 7:31 – Oh dear, wrong again. “I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link as it would be akin to snuggling with a werewolf during Wolf Moon…”
    It’s you lefties that brag about not visiting sites due to fear.
    That link goes to a comedy routine by George Conway. There is nothing even claiming to be factual about it.
    But you are entitled to your own reality as the one with Trump as your POTUS is clearly more than your fragile system can handle.

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  15. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man:
    “,,,4chan…awesome!!!
    Is that where the Alt Righty’s posted the Iowa caucus poll data line???”
    They might as well. I’d rank the Washington Post as 4chan’s equivalent in terms of editorial bias, although 4chan can be funnier. To their credit WaPo has about 3x the page hits, but the time on page and pages read is about 1/3 as high.
    Just one more superpower of Orange Man. Making it clear to the world what you are getting from ‘journalists’, whether it’s an urban newspaper or the crack KVMR news team.

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  16. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Scotto: “It’s you lefties that brag about not visiting sites due to fear.”
    Oddly enough, I spent some time this morning dragging through the CPUSA’s site to see what their take is on GEOTUS’s takedown of Ms. Pelosi.
    They don’t seem to keep up on current affairs much, it’s mostly small essays written by (seemingly) well-meaning high school students. Honestly, they don’t even seem to be that Marxist, it’s mostly been taken over by the Diversity! people, not really a thing that either the early Communist writers or the Soviet Union really had clear views on.

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  17. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: scenes | 06 February 2020 at 12:38 PM
    ,,,How many GE lies did you count during his SOTU speech???
    Agent Orange forgot to mention Conservos Trump haters were the initial buyers of the Steele research…
    I guess once Trump was the prime candidate they gave up and the Demos hired Steele…

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Back to that Dougy? But what lie? How great the economy is doing? More people working than ever? Even minorities?
    Those lies? HELL You have yet to show facts otherwise.
    Yaa,, that good old proggy standard “goto” accusation.
    ya’ really need to find a renta pal to hear your whows.
    There is always the chicken coop. Just sit outside and tell the girls all about it. You will have a captive audience(and many a volunteer to become dinner as soon as possible.)

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Yes Dougy.. Orange man REAL bad. The biggest porn star yet.
    He just “F”ed the entire Democrat party in one night. Now have a good smoke in the afterglow.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    What is there about our liberal commenters that they either don’t read or nothing they read sticks? I would bet that every conservative commenter in these comment streams regularly consumes lamestream media outlets like WaPo and NYT to know what’s going on there. You can’t find evidence here of these folks being ignorant of a national development or sentiment as do our media-blindered liberal readers on a regular basis. I can’t count the number of times I have been accused of being the originator of an already nationally established notion (usually involving some conservative thought). Why? because the liberal commenter never ventured out of his media safe zone. The 952am is just another corroborating example of this.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Emery in Grass Valley?
    5:48 p.m. — A caller from the 700 block of Sutton Way reported a man causing heated arguments, walking in the bike lane with an “InfoWars” sign and an American flag. He was told to walk on the sidewalk.

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  22. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The socialist dem ‘facts’ have resulted in this –
    Cal Thomas: Trump’s got the wind at his back and Democrats are in disarray
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-democrats-disarray-cal-thomas
    😉

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Facts: It’s much better to get your facts from someone talking about the NY Slimes or Wa Compost that to read it from one of Odlas’s links. Airborne viruses and all. I don’t want to catch whatever he got. That is one nasty and lethal bug. Can’t be too safe when it comes to that kind of stuff. Brain eating stuff. Without further ado….,,,,,,….
    A LIBERAL GETS TRUMP’S SOTU ADDRESS
    Right after President Trump delivered his State of the Union Address, I said that Democrats should be very worried about the upcoming presidential election. David Von Drehle, the Washington Post’s most insightful liberal columnist in my view, is worried. He explains why in his latest column, perhaps the most perceptive I’ve seen about the SOTU speech:
    Viewers were left to wonder: Why wouldn’t Pelosi applaud money for historically black colleges and universities? What’s her beef with a serviceman who returns from deployment to hug his kids? Where’s her feeling for the brother of a man killed by an undocumented criminal? All of these visuals could be explained in policy terms, but as Ronald Reagan once confided to his diary, “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.”
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/a-liberal-gets-trumps-sotu-address.php
    And Devon Nunes is a stupid idiot and Mafia henchman Barr is a ass kissing thug, and I just adore the way George Conway moves on the dance floor. He can schlong me anytime he wants.

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  24. Walt Avatar

    This should brighten Emery’s day.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/06/andrew-napolitano-fox-news-donald-trump-impeachment/
    “Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano explained Thursday how President Donald Trump legally could be impeached again, hours after slamming the Senate’s Wednesday acquittal vote in an op-ed.
    Napolitano called out Senate Republicans for voting against additional witness testimony and added that the president is “clearly guilty” of the impeachment charges in an op-ed. He added to these comments on Fox & Friends Thursday morning, explaining how there’s no double jeopardy, meaning Democrats could try and “impeach him again if they want.” ”
    The Proggys are dumb enough to try again.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Fauxcahantas -But, but, but I AM a woman of color! said to the backs of the tokens as they walk out the door. –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/women-of-color-quit-elizabeth-warrens-campaign-in-nevada-report
    😉

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  26. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Walt | 06 February 2020 at 02:50 PM
    ,,,Think about it Wally…The economy has been improving and employment figures have been rising since 2008 under Obama and now during the Trump administration…
    But guess what??? Unless we allow more immigrants into the country we are going to run out of people to hire…
    So…for the light thinking Wally…jobless claims are going to decrease…and more minorities are going to be hired…

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: Update 2/06/2020; “Here is a prime example of the polarization of facts. As these pages have archived, our liberal readers have continually countered the news and data available to all who can read that California has increasingly systemic problems with its economy, infrastructure, taxes, regulations, and an ongoing exodus of commerce and workers. The leftwing mind can parse none of these facts……”.—— The Doc.
    Well, it ain’t Californication, but Seattle will serve as a stand-in.
    ‘Seattle’s Liberal Reckoning’
    “Writing on KOMO’s website, Johnson said his documentary was “about citizens who don’t feel safe taking their families into downtown Seattle….about parents who won’t take their children into public parks they pay for. It’s about filth and degradation all around us. And theft and crime. It’s about people who don’t feel protected anymore, who don’t feel like their voices are being heard.”
    Johnson’s documentary was aired in March of last year, some seven months before the Seattle City Council elections. It touched a nerve among many Seattleites and kicked up gale-force winds of controversy throughout the city and beyond. In the end, though, it didn’t have much impact. It will take a lot more civic chaos, dysfunction, and violence for this city to make the connection between that decay and the kind of leadership it so avidly favors. Seattle may or may not be dying, but it is in a far more ominous state of civic health than most of its citizens realize.”
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/seattles-liberal-reckoning/

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  28. L Avatar
    L

    SFB @ 3:43- I’m all in favor of more immigrants to reinforce the labor pool. Let’s make sure they are capable of doing more than making an X on a dim voter registration as more incompetent criminals aren’t going to help much.
    My father came here in 1928 with sponsor and job waiting. Lost that job with the onset of the depression, but since he could already speak English as a second language, had no problem finding employment for the rest of his long life. That kind of immigrant we can use in large numbers. Useless eaters and their collateral illiterate, unemployable relatives, not so much.
    Want your schools to work again? No advancement until instruction in our native language can be understood by the would-be student.
    You still don’t get it- conservatives aren’t anti-immigrant, they’re anti-illegal immigrant. When you figure that out, then come with your suggestions…

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  29. Scott O Avatar

    idiot-law 3:43 – “But guess what??? Unless we allow more immigrants into the country we are going to run out of people to hire…”
    Who’s against immigration?
    Not Trump nor anyone here.
    We’re against illegals.
    Maybe you could get some one to scream that in your ear for an hour or so.
    And then again – you probably still wouldn’t get it.
    Flooding the country with illegal unskilled labor just as automation is kicking in big time is a recipe for disaster.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    LOL Dougy!!! Biden already tried taking credit for Trump’s economy. Only saps like you deny that fact.
    Remember? Your boy “O” said “those jobs just ain’t coming back”
    Trump had that magic wand and gave it a good waive.. And look what happened.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Re: [Addendum], Another more local example of the Great Divide….
    Looks like the R’s and the Independents liked the SCOTUS, Democrats gave it the thumbs down. Just more proof that Trump was speaking to a larger audience and the lefties only talk among themselves. Good numbers for Independents, not so much Leftinistas.
    ‘Most viewers approved of Trump’s second State of the Union address’
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-of-the-union-2019-most-viewers-approved-of-trumps-sotu-address-cbs-news-poll/

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Favorables for Republican Party brand hits half, numbers unseen since 2003.
    The Lefties say Blue Wave coming. R’s are toast, put a fork in it.
    Guess the two sides have different sets of facts. 🙂

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  33. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery must be laying low in the convent after his defeat in his predictions of Trump’s impeachment.

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  34. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Todd. Paul is playing you guys. He wasn’t serious that he actually thought that Trump wouldn’t be acquitted. 😉

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  35. Scott O Avatar

    Just visited CNNs Iowa Caucus results page. In the first and in the final round Bernie beats out Pete by a wide margin, but Pete somehow ends up with more delegates. And this is the party screaming about the Electoral College!
    looks like the money Pete paid Shadow Inc. paid off pretty handsomely.
    Just wait until Super Tuesday and the Bloomberg money comes in.
    “Party Of The People” – what a laugh.
    Wasn’t it always the Dems saying they wanted to “get the money out of politics”?

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  36. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    @726 They meant all our opponents money out of politics! LOL

    Winning- China clears the way for phase 1 purchases of lots of American goods! –
    China cuts tariffs on $75 billion of U.S. imports in trade truce
    “We hope to work with the United States toward the final elimination of all tariff increases,” said a Ministry of Finance statement.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-cuts-tariffs-75-billion-u-s-imports-trade-truce-n1131286
    😉

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  37. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Scott O | 06 February 2020 at 07:26 PM
    PO Ol Scotto,,,as clueless as ever…
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_People

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  38. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: Walt | 06 February 2020 at 05:13 PM
    ,,,PO Ol Wally,,,also clueless as ever…
    Thinks Presidents make or break the economy…
    What a hoot!!!

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  39. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Oh ya gotta love the trolls sense of humor @745!

    Oh no, poor old fredo’s facts didn’t make the cut!! LOL!!!
    CABLE NEWS RACE
    WEDS, FEB 5, 2020
    FOXNEWS THE FIVE 5,336,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 5,170,000
    FOXNEWS TUCKER 5,117,000
    FOXNEWS LAURA 4,710,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 3,144,000
    MSNBC ODONNELL 2,156,000
    MSNBC HAYES 1,909,000
    CNN TOWN HALL 1,043,000
    😉

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  40. Scott O Avatar

    odd-out 7:45 – That’s a sad try at diversion. I wasn’t talking about them and you know it. Care to face the issues I brought up?
    No – I didn’t think so.
    Poor sap – all oddy can do is throw rocks.

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  41. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Emperor Xi’s cadre can not remember which lie to tell today as their communist dictatorship looks to be melting down as their structure of corruption fails 2 big challenges. The Dr. they put on house arrest for warning other health workers to be careful just died from it.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/06/china-reports-deletes-again-reports-death-wuhan-virus-whistleblower-doctor/
    😉

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  42. The Estonian Fox Avatar
    The Estonian Fox

    The Chinese coronavirus whistleblower, Dr. Li, died Friday morning in China.
    From the NY Times-
    “Dr. Li was reprimanded by the police after he shared concerns about the virus in a social messaging app with medical school classmates on Dec. 30. Three days later, the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted ‘illegal behavior’.”
    What is not in the various reports on Dr. Li (namely, a third sentence missing from between the 2 sentences above) is: The Chinese government was monitoring, and then took action, to silence someone who may have been having a private discussion with his former med school classmates.
    Why isn’t the reason for the Chinese government knowing what he said reported in U.S. papers? They are continually monitoring everything their citizens say. It’s bad enough when Google or Facebook restrict speech on their platforms, but quite another if our (U.S.) government were to do so. Yet the monitoring, and followup strong-arm, is standard procedure for most totalitarian governments, and our news people have no discussion about this. Just the standard wringing of hands – “oh, what can we do, what can we do”?
    This would seem to be a substantially large reason to never trust what the Chinese government says or does.

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    odlaw

    Posted by: The Estonian Fox | 07 February 2020 at 04:34 AM
    ,,,Estonian Fox …it was a cover up so it made it difficult to get the truth news out…but we are reading about it now.

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    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 07 February 2020 at 07:57 AM
    …..it was a cover up so it made it difficult to get the truth news out…but we are reading about it now.

    Oh dugsKKKi……the best part…..the absolute best part of Trump is that he’s turned the pseudointellectual left back into the spastically crazy conspiracy theorists they always were!
    Milhouse Van Keachie…..?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVE01oOTAM

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  45. Walt Avatar

    Maybe Dougy can explain how these facts go in the “O”,, “I did that” column.🤣
    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/02/07/u-s-economy-created-225000-jobs-in-january/
    The U.S. economy added 225,000 jobs in January and the unemployment rate ticked up to 3.6.
    Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.

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  46. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Another Trump victory and democrat defeat. What a week!!
    A federal appeals court in Washington threw out a lawsuit accusing President Trump of illegally profiting off his private businesses while in office, ruling that the Democratic lawmakers who brought the suit lack legal standing.

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  47. George Rebane Avatar

    odlaw 757am – was that your best shot at a reason why US outlets omitted the second sentence (exposing chi com monitoring of their citizens) from their reports? All of that information was known to them from the gitgo, and even before Dr Li’s social media post. There was nothing “difficult to get the truth out” at all. But there probably was another agenda at work.

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I would say that it is not always having different two sets of facts, but different interpretations and biases applied of the same set of facts
    Matthews UNGLUED: ‘Goose Stepping’ ‘Black Mamba’ Trump ‘Cult’ Ready for ‘Violent Purge’
    He (Matthews) added, “They sounded like the language of a dictator unleashing a violent purge that his targets would be unlikely to survive.” Matthews also raged, “President Trump spoke today with the venom of a black mamba.”
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2020/02/06/matthews-unglued-violent-black-mamba-trump-cult-ready-violent
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    Chris Cuomo Defends Buttigieg: ‘Ugliest’ of ‘Lies’ to Claim Dems Are Extreme on Abortion
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2020/02/07/chris-cuomo-defends-buttigieg-ugliest-lies-claim-dems-are-extreme

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