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RL Crabb is prominent in today’s (21jan20) Union lambasting AB5, the latest socialist outrage from Sacramento. (more here)  This piece of dreadful anti-work legislation has finally caught enough of our liberal artsy-fartsy crowd to also get them squawking – less known, AB5 impacts at least as many of California’s high-tech STEM consultants and freelancers.  Our cartoonist friend Bob Crabb’s distress (here) puts paid on what most of us have known about his true ideological colors – for shur he ain’t no middle-roader.  Regardless of his ire against the state’s Democrats – it’s akin to my ire against the state’s Republicans, but I don’t pretend to be a mid-roader – he cannot countenance the other side, even in the face of AB5.  “I also do not agree with those who want to steer clear of partisan politics. This bill is 100% Democrat. It was written by an assemblywoman who curses like a sailor and dismisses us as whiners who are too dense to understand how fortunate we are to have her party looking out for our well-being.  It passed on a straight party line vote. It was signed by a governor who just dedicated millions of dollars to enforcing it.  California Democrats believe they have little to fear from the riffraff at the bottom tier of workers. We are, after all, musicians, journalists, community theaters, and cartoonists. What are we going to do? Vote for Republicans? Ha ha ha!”  As you can see, regardless of the years of collectivist crap flowing from our Democrat legislature, Bob would not change his vote to give us bottom tier riffraff a chance to sell our services as we choose – a few eggs have yet to be cracked and sacrifices have to be made.

GreenKoolAidCalifornia leavin’ should be the title of a new musical lament for all those folks heading out of state.  But there’s enough of us disgruntled Golden Staters to take and remake the places where we land and put down new stakes.  An example is Star, Idaho, a small town near where one of our dear departed California expats and RR readers now lives.  Star’s population has more than doubled in the last ten years as couples like JT and Mary Jo Turnipseed (their real name, honest!) left SoCal and moved in to experience small town living at its best.  Well, no more.  “Now Star is grappling with some of the same problems the Turnipseeds left California to escape. The town’s main drag, where ranchers once drove their cattle, is clogged with traffic during rush-hour commutes. Sprawling subdivisions have sprouted up around farmland, as have new chain stores. The median home price has more than doubled to nearly $400,000 since 2010.” (more here)  The most amazing thing to me is still the utter blindness of our states overwhelming population of leftwing loonies who deny that any of this exodus is going on.  It mirrors exactly their grossly distorted perception of the realworld which is their daily drink from the lamestream.  For them, another sip of that Kool-Aid, and all’s right with the world.


[22jan20 update]  Today at lunch with a longtime friend of, shall we say, a different socio-political persuasion, we discussed the “overwhelming” evidence which the Dems proclaimed to the nation in support of their case to convict President Trump of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’, and get him out of 1600 Pennsylvania before he trounces them at the polls this November.  My friend strongly argued the prosecution’s call for additional witnesses and documents, with which to catalyze the evidence developed during the weeks of House impeachment hearings that, it now appears, did not overwhelm anyone and will not overwhelm anyone in the Senate chamber.  The Dems’ evidence is essentially limp and ludicrous on arrival, and needs at least another fishing expedition launched to prop it up and give it some, any, substance before the president is summarily acquitted.  But calling for witnesses is really a bluff by the Dems on which Majority Leader McConnell may well call Team Nancy and lead to a sanitary problem in multiple shorts.  My prognosis is that the Dems will do nothing which results in any Biden taking the witness stand, let alone requiring Mr Lead Prosecutor Adam Schiff to also raise his hand and swear to tell the truth for a change.

[23jan20 update]  The unmitigated hatred of Trump by our Left is on full display in ‘Time for Trump to go’ by local leftwinger Nancy Eubanks in the 23jan20 Union.  There the newspaper gives the lady the entire prime-spot left panel to lambaste the president.  And she does not hold back, spewing unsupported allegation after allegation and obvious lie after lie, all the while calling Trump the nation’s consummate liar whose lies average “over 10 times every day according to several nonpartisan fact checkers.”  Has anyone ever asked how many lies about Trump come out daily from Team Nancy, the multitude of lamestream news outlets, the countless campuses across the country, the Dems’ impeachment brigade (Schiff’s speech yesterday on the Senate floor was a doozy – more here), and the entertainment media’s daily dose of films and TV programs??

[24jan20 update]  Irrefutable proof that stupid is contagious.  The Dems are proposing to make California’s horrendously stupid AB5 the law of the land.  This proposal has now been endorsed by their top presidential candidates Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Pete Buttigieg.  Talk about a slate of ignorant?cynical anti-Americans wanting to become chief executive – they are all extreme leftwingers.  Today this law is causing chaos in the state’s employment markets, and is even being opposed by liberals whose jobs are in peril or already history.  In desperation the Sacramento stupidos are trying to do a workaround with a growing pile of special interest carve-outs before they accelerate California’s calamitous worker exodus, indigent immigrations, shrinking tax base, economic contraction, and most importantly, voter defections. (more here and here) Perhaps the passage of such destructive legislation, that is finally a shot into our socialists’ shorts, will help Republicans to launch a resurgence of sanity in California.

DemTaxIncreases2020[27jan20 update]  That Democrats are now the anti-American party is confirmed by three things which uniquely identify them – 1) ALL of them are willing to risk the US economy through massive tax increases to buy votes needed to stay in power through directed wealth redistribution – moderate Democrats are a myth, 2) NONE of them have any social policies save to remove President Trump from office before the November election (H/T to reader who posted the latest VDH piece on the topic), 3) ALL are globalists first, prepared and pursuing means to reduce US sovereignty and hegemony in favor of submitting to globalist organizations in economics, trade, governance, and world order.

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306 responses to “Scattershots – 21jan20 (updated 27jan20)”

  1. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: GeorgeR@1:22PM
    Without gerrymandering, you aren’t likely to get any kind of proportional (outside of geography) representation.
    No doubt there are papers galore on other mechanisms of what is basically a bidding strategy to appoint gubmint officials. Its hard to avoid the need for attaching a seat to a place given the way money flows.
    It is funny how Team Red is blamed for ‘abusing’ the districting process. It’s the kind of fib that becomes true via retelling.

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  2. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 26 January 2020 at 01:22 PM
    If you pull my posts out of Typepad detention you will find relevant links..
    They were there, scenes responded, then poof!!!

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  3. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 26 January 2020 at 01:22 PM
    ,,,Why would Cali receive awards if it was sooo unfair???
    https://wedrawthelines.ca.gov/

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  4. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 26 January 2020 at 01:22 PM
    There are 5 Conservos and 5 Demos on the committee…
    Is there a conspiracy???
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Citizens_Redistricting_Commission

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  5. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: comma-man @2:21PM
    He makes a good point that 43% of the voters get 86% of the seats. Even an election with a highly unpopular (R) candidate we saw 63% of the votes going to Hillary for those 86% of seats. Why would California receive an award? Hell if I know. It’s probably from a MSM source or an Ivy League school.
    It’s a problem with democracy generally. A majority can boss around a minority, regardless of ‘fairness’ (whatever that is). That’s why you need those silly Constitutions and Bills of Rights and so on.
    The primary problem is that as government metastasizes, not just in primary effect via taxes/spending but in secondary via regulations, it becomes more important. A thing that is basically the biggest corporation of all, essentially a monopoly, becomes more and more important to your daily life. If it sucks, your life sucks. Better to minimize it’s impact.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    “House Impeachment Manager: There Should Be New Witnesses Because ‘The President Deserves A Fair Trial’”
    Now what is really being said.
    ” House Impeachment Manager: There Should Be New Witnesses Because we haven’t done a good enough railroad job ON the President.”
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/26/jason-crow-new-witnesses-trump-impeachment-trial/

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  7. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: scenes | 26 January 2020 at 02:32 PM
    ,,,Kinda sad that you won’t read links that people post…you prefer your alternative facts I guess…
    Here is a little blurb…
    ”’As members of the inaugural California Citizens Redistricting Commission, we have been invited to share our experiences at conferences and town halls with a wide variety of audiences seeking to implement independent redistricting and eliminate partisan gerrymandering in their states. These include good government groups and community-based organizations, fair-minded legislators, business and civic leaders, academics, engaged citizens, and the media.
    Innovations in American Government AwardsAll Commissioners who participate in travel to other states volunteer their time. We are the proud recipients of an Innovations in American Government Award from the Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, which supports travel for the Commissioner Speaker Corps at no expense to California taxpayers. Host organizations may also provide funding and local transportation.”’
    https://wedrawthelines.ca.gov/otherstates/

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  8. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,Demos are twice as prevalent as Conservos in Cali. If there are more Demos in most districts…most districts would be represented by Demos.

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  9. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No surprise there, but we already knew it –
    Impeachment trial: Democrats say oust Donald Trump or ‘it’s not going to stop’
    By Associated Press Reporters
    January 24, 2020, 8:15 PM PST
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-trump-blocked-ukraine-money-194257091.html
    😉

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    odlaW 214pm – you have no comments in “TypePad detention”, and none have been placed there by me. Repost if you still have the links. BTW, your comment again confirms that you don’t know jack shit about me.

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  11. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man ”
    ,,,Demos are twice as prevalent as Conservos in Cali. If there are more Demos in most districts…most districts would be represented by Demos.”
    No problem.
    So why are there 6.7x as many if there are only twice as many voters?

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  12. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    moi@4:38PM
    I don’t know how to put this any more simply.
    comma-man, one of the main reasons for gerrymandering is for representation. There simply wouldn’t be black congressmen in a lot of cases otherwise. A lot of reasons exist for the practice beyond simply having a majority nailing down it’s dominance, which happens on both sides of the aisle. Once again, it’s not a Team Red specialty regardless of what CNN or Vanity Fair might say.
    Generally, this problem with democracy is a darned good reason for two things, founding documents laying down rights, regardless whether you think people should own guns or say anything they like, and for minimization of the scope/size of government. Government allows a simple majority to use the force of the state to do absolutely anything they want to a minority.
    Geez louise, man.

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    scenes

    DonB@4:24PM
    Whoof, is that a misleading headline.
    The Gang of Whatever leading the Democratic scoundrels in the House are bad hombres, but that title implies something different than what was said.

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  14. Over Cross Avatar
    Over Cross

    And, of course, we’re waiting for the Senate to also put up witnesses … you know, like the Bidens (all four?), Schiff, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, McCabe, Obama, Lewinski. Oliver North, Jeffry Epstein, Rudy Guilianni , Jared Kushner, Donald Duck, Abraham Lincoln, Sean Hannity, Perry Mason, and a host of others. Obscuring the truth with dung smoke is what the trumplicans do best.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Here comes Bolton
    “Former national security adviser John Bolton reportedly wrote in an outline for a book that President Donald Trump tied the withheld Ukraine aid to the country’s announcement that it would investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
    Drafts of the book outline obtained by The New York Times describe Trump telling Bolton in August that he wanted to continue freezing nearly $400 million in congressionally approved military assistance to Ukraine until officials there agreed to help investigate his political rival. ”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-bolton-trump-ukraine-biden_n_5e2e2630c5b6779e9c359031

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Media matters, or does it?
    God Only Knows’: Todd Dreads Trump’s Reaction to Possible Acquittal
    ABC, NBC Fear Biden Will Face ‘Divisive Strategy’ from Trump’s Legal Team
    Nets Decry Trump’s Legal Team ‘Discrediting’ Days of Dem ‘Evidence’
    MSNBC Unmoved by ‘False Flag,’ ‘Weak Tea’ Trump Team; Matthews Says More Weird Stuff
    The Impeachment Media Goes Into Overdrive to Discredit Cipollone
    Horrified Discredited Sock Puppet Goes into Overdrive to Discredit Dershowitz
    Toobin Bashes ‘White House and White People’; Wonders If Women Will Be ‘Allowed’ to Speak
    NY Times Conspiracy: Right-Wing Media Have Been Helping Trump for 50 Years
    CBS’s O’Donnell Frets: If Trump Team is ‘Untruthful,’ Can Dems ‘Object’? (ROFLMAO)
    CNN Dishonestly RIPS Sen. Blackburn for Honestly Criticizing Vindman
    Sam Bee Links Trump Lawyers to ‘Rape Culture,’ Yet She Loves Rape-Enabler Hillary
    Washington Post’s Dana Milbank Blames Justice Roberts for Impeachment
    Stelter Applauds Schumer’s Impeachment ‘Strategy’ of Bashing Fox News
    Stelter Applauds Schumer’s Impeachment ‘Strategy’ of Bashing Fox News
    MSNBC: ‘We All Know’ Republicans Are ‘Horrified’ By Trump (ROFLMAO)
    https://www.newsbusters.org/

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    You know, this impeachment could be a done deal and in the books by the end of the week, maybe even Wednesday. Could being the operative word. Just as soon as the defense is finished.

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  18. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 26 January 2020 at 05:23 PM
    Fake News bub.

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  19. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    One po’ ol’ fakenewsman fooled by another. HAHA!! –
    A top aide to former national security adviser John Bolton is disputing part of a Sunday report in The New York Times, which claimed Bolton had shared a manuscript of his forthcoming book with “close associates” — and that the manuscript included a bombshell claim that Trump explicitly linked a hold on Ukraine aid to an investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-bolton-trump-ukraine-aid-ny-times-manuscript
    😉

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  20. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Todd @ 5:37 pm
    Oh, let the Punch drink his punch and get his spirits soaring. I love it when he floats like a butterfly then stings himself. It’s the only thing keeping him going besides running cable. Don’t let the cat out of the bag. Sooner or later the publisher will release that one line in the whole book that gets his juices flowing and he won’t be able to contain himself. It will be an irresistible teaser and the book peddler will be raking in the dough.
    Then, true to form, the context will be released, just like those two NYT reporters that wrote the book on Kavanaugh and got the them all fired up and started crying out for Kavanaugh to be impeached again. Then, sheepishly, they admitted to “misworded” juicy nuggets. 🙂
    It’s all Kavanaugh now. Speaking of fiction and sorta kinda on topic, the author of Handmaiden’s Tale speaks out. We have had Pulp Fiction, Paperback Fiction, and now the unhinged Blue Mob as turned themselves into Cult Fiction.
    https://quillette.com/2020/01/19/margaret-atwood-wrote-a-great-novel-unfortunately-her-fans-turned-it-into-a-cult/

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  21. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “I love it when he floats like a butterfly then stings himself. ”
    The obvious analogy, and no doubt already used, is Charlie Brown and his football.
    THIS TIME FER SURE!!!
    Emerianism is a tough ol’ row to hoe. Satan is never vanquished, the unbelievers laugh at you, they ran out of Peet’s at the radio station. Life is hard.
    One thing that confuses me about the Ukraine is that is Trump not allowed to push for investigating Team Blue misdeeds in foreign countries from here on? Is there some time-out before elections? Can Democrats simply pick up brown envelopes when a (R) is in the Oval Office? Enquiring minds want to know.

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  22. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT & the Atwood.
    One sad thing here is the increasing acceptance of anti-Christian philosophies (a variant of Emerianism I would suppose), especially of the remaining Christians in the traditional US, which tend to Pentecostals.
    At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law, it smells a lot like anti-semitism. You target a group you don’t like, accuse them of a list of sins, some with a bit of truth some not, and then flesh out your movement by accusing them of the worst things you can imagine. The Southern Baptists are too well armed to be the object of a pogrom, but the underlying tension feels the same.
    The cynic in me sez that a big part of the misogynist charges against Trump are that his wife is better looking than 99.9% of American women (and 100% of American transsexual males) who weigh over 12 stone on average, plus she’s a furriner to boot. Maybe not, but it’s a theory that niggles at the back of my brain.

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  23. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    …although it isn’t like Margaret Atwood is off the hook.
    When the Blue Mob smells blood in the water, them little teeth start nippin’. A piranha’s got nothin’ on the liberal art departments.
    (good article I was led to)
    https://quillette.com/2018/03/15/hate-margaret-atwood/

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Scenes:
    “One thing that confuses me about the Ukraine is that is Trump not allowed to push for investigating Team Blue misdeeds in foreign countries from here on? “
    Bingo! That’s is exactamundo. Trump is not allowed to go there, ever., ever, never, no way, no how.
    It is just the Dems doing their Alinsky playbook to perfection. Hire foreigners to dig up manufactured dirt on a political opponent to affect an US election in 2016, then blame Trump for what they did and call the election illegitimate. Can you say Russia, Russia, Russia? It was Trump colluding with foreigners!
    Have a DNC operative in the Ukrainian Embassy to coordinate with the Ukrainians to dig up dirt on Trump (their political opponent) and then blame Trump for doing what they did.
    Twist arms and extort/blackmail a foreign government for Quid Pro Quo, then blame Trump for Quid Pro Quo and bribery.
    So, whatever they are doing, they will blame Trump for all their dirty evil deeds every single time. In a way, it is a telltale sign what they have been up to. So, no going ‘there’ for Trump means going where they have been and left their stank that stunk up the place. Forbidden for Trump to investigate corruption by Democrats. Got it? Good.
    Now, it’s Trump trying to destroy the Constitution, a threat to our Democracy, and trying to rig/interfere with an election. Just blame Trump for their dastardly deeds. I love the spin that the Senate is obstructing justice. Just what they did in the House, lol.
    ———-
    Best comment of the day on this great site as highlighted by Gregory @1:20 pm:
    “,,,asking a foreign nation to make false allegations”—Odlap
    This never happened, outside of Schiff’s “parody”. -Gregory
    Se, what ever they are doing or have done, they will accuse others for their very actions.
    Saul Alinsky would be most proud and not rolling over in his grave.
    Hey, didn’t Hillary write her college thesis on Alinsky and did not Michelle and Barry worship his writings…as well as their buddy Bill Ayers?
    So, Scenes, I did not fully answer your question, but it don’t matter what Trump does or did not do.. They will blame Trump anyway, even if he didn’t do it.
    It is interesting that the Dems accused Kavanaugh for running gang rape houses in college. Stand at the door to the bedroom and collect the mula. Makes me wonder which Dems gave young maidens beer and quaaludes in plastic party cups and pulled a train on the victims, Don’t blame me, Kavanaugh done did it!, lol.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2579864555576327&set=gm.853092985145813&type=3&theater

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    It is understandable that the pony tail of ignorance is having a hard time, his stormy doll is all worn out and his hero stole all of his clients money. Gee that sounds like a local shark with multiple disbarments. I loved the compellation of the socialist dem media talking up Avenatti as a presidential candidate in 2018.
    That says so much more about them that disqualifies their opinions for ever. Goebbels is so proud of them and all the fakenewsmen. LOL!!!
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-avenatti-faces-trial-life-151431947.html
    😉

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Dems quiver is empty and it never had anything in it to begin with.
    The Senate is obstructing Justice!!
    Doug Collins: House Democrats’ Attacks On Senators Show They Have Nothing On Trump
    “If you’re a lawyer and you’re going to present the case to the ‘jury,’ the first thing you don’t do is go insult them and actually make a case in which they are turned off by what you’re saying,” Collins said. “But it is not a shock, because here’s what happened with the House managers. The reason they did it, number one, is the president is not guilty. He did nothing wrong. The facts and the truth are on the president’s side, and the House managers know that.”
    “Number two, we knew it was a political impeachment, because when they actually looked at it from the perspective of what do they want to do, they didn’t want to go to court, they didn’t want to take the witnesses, they didn’t want to do the due diligence that they should have done in the House. So it was a political impeachment,” Collins continued. “So, what are you left with? Well, I guess we’re left with it. Let’s see if we can shame the Senate into doing our job for us.”
    “But I think it backfired on them, especially when Chairman Nadler said that, if you don’t agree with me, then you’re – then you’re basically – you’re corrupt, that you’re hiding something,” Collins continued. “That just should show the American people in a clear form that the House managers have nothing on this president, except smear, innuendo, and an election in 2020 in mind.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/doug-collins-house-democrats-attacks-on-senators-show-they-have-nothing-on-trump?
    ——————————————————
    Lindsey Graham: They are on a crusade to destroy this man. If I was the President, I wouldn’t give them the time of day.
    https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/videos/177123126989618/

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Punchy’s Golden Shower!
    “Critics Hammer Bolton After Book Pre-Order Goes Live Following Leaked Manuscript Published By NYT”
    Liberal political commentator Dave Rubin responded by writing, “I’m a simple man so maybe I’m not understanding. It seems Bolton is agreeing that Trump wanted to investigate corruption in Ukraine otherwise we’d withhold aid. So are we supposed to give aid to corrupt countries now? Is that now a good thing?”
    Fox News political analyst Brit Hume wrote: “This came along right about on schedule.”
    Mollie Hemingway wrote: “This is obviously book promo coordinated with compliant media, yes. But an additional word of skepticism: these particular folks have a pattern of overpromising and underachieving with their ‘bombshell’ anti-Trump book roll outs.”
    (Sean) Davis added, “John Bolton is running the exact same revenge playbook against Trump that James Comey used. He’s even using the same agent and leaking to the same reporters. All because he’s mad Trump fired him for leaking and trying to start new wars. It’s so boring and predictable.”
    Go Buck, go!!
    Political commentator Buck Sexton wrote: “Given the obvious timing of this, wondering if they will let Michael Avenatti out of prison to help Julie Swetnick claim she was on the phone call with Trump too, so the media can breathlessly print her insane and fact free allegations in a last desperate act to rig the trial.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/critics-hammer-bolton-after-book-pre-order-goes-live-following-leaked-manuscript-published-by-nyt?
    Go Punchy go!

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  28. L Avatar
    L

    Paul @ 5:23 So what? I can hear myself saying that at the moment of discovery- but no follow-through…
    Dems drew a perfect bead on Trump and droned Biden instead. Oops! True to form, they are doing exactly what they accuse you of intending.
    Why don’t the cc riders recuse themselves (for cause) and head back to Iowa and fight it out? At that point they need only flip 1/2 of the R’s in the Senate and… Viola!

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  29. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “House Democrats seem not to understand that Republicans feel about Adam Schiff the way they feel about Donald Trump, i.e. that he is such a disreputable character that anything he says is automatically tainted.” —Brit Hume
    The BIG Lie: “CBS News reported … that a Trump confidant said that key senators were warned, ‘Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike.’” —Rep. Adam Schiff (“I thought he was doing fine … until he got to the ‘head on a pike.’ That’s where he lost me.” —Sen. Lisa Murkowski | “Not only have I never heard the ‘head on the pike’ line but also I know of no Republican senator who has been threatened in any way by anyone in the administration.” —Sen. Susan Collins)
    Alpha jackass: “He is a dictator.” —Rep. Jerry Nadler
    https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157018777445914/?

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  30. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: scenes | 26 January 2020 at 04:44 PM
    If you are not afraid to open this link it explains much of what you probably want to know…
    ‘’’Public input
    Commission proceedings are subject to the state Open Meetings Act; commission records, redistricting data, and computer software will be available to the public. Both the commission and the legislature must issue public reports after drawing the plans for state legislative or congressional districts, explaining their decisions. [Cal. Const. art. XXI, § 2(h); Cal. Gov’t Code § 8253]
    The commission held extensive hearings in nine different regions throughout the state. Transcripts of past hearings and meetings are here; links for streaming video of live hearings and archived videos of past hearings are here.
    The commission invited public input, at these hearings and beyond, with more than 2700 witnesses giving testimony. Materials explaining the mechanism for input are here. The nearly 20,000 comments submitted by the public are archived here.
    The Redistricting Group at Berkeley Law School opened six technical assistance sites around the state to assist the public in preparing submissions. Also, Advancement Project created an online application allowing the public to get information about areas of the state, annotate their own communities, or draw full district plans.
    On June 10, 2011, the commission released draft maps for public comment. The commission initially planned to release a second series of drafts on July 14, but then reversed course. Instead of that release, it has released preliminary “visualizations” (here and here) of what drafts might look like. The commission released final draft maps on July 29.
    Criteria
    Like all states, California must comply with constitutional equal population requirements. [Cal. Const. art. XXI, § 2(d)(1)]
    California must also, like all states, abide by section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. Because four California counties (Kings, Merced, Monterey, and Yuba) are considered “covered jurisdictions” under section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, California has an obligation to submit redistricting plans to the Department of Justice or to the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, to ensure that the plans do not discriminate against minority communities in those counties.
    The California constitution further requires that districts be contiguous. To the extent possible, they must also preserve the geographic integrity of cities, counties, neighborhoods, and communities of interest. To the extent practicable, and where so doing does not violate higher-priority constraints, districts must also encourage compactness, defined by lines that do not bypass nearby population in favor of more distant population. Finally, where practicable, and where not in conflict with the criteria above, state Senate and Assembly districts must be nested within each other. [Cal. Const. art. XXI, § 2(d)]
    In drawing maps, the commission may not consider candidate residences, and districts may not be drawn to favor or discriminate against a candidate or party. [Cal. Const. art. XXI, § 2(e)]’’’
    http://redistricting.lls.edu/states-CA.php

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    oldaw

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 27 January 2020 at 07:42 AM
    “CBS News reported … that a Trump confidant said that key senators were warned, ‘Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike.’” —Rep. Adam Schiff”’
    Keywords here…CBS News reported…that a Trump confidant said…
    Blame it on CBS Bill…
    Begin chanting…Fake News!…Fake News!

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  32. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,Trump says Bolton is lying…
    Trump has lied, misstated, or BSed, or ranted incoherently over 16,000 times so far…
    So obviously we should believe him when he says someone else lied…

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  33. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,Trump says he has not read Bolton’s manuscript…
    Well…DUH!
    Trump can’t read too good…so he doesn’t…

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    robert Floss

    Odlaw — you are wasting your time.. the ruminators and trumplicans don’t care about being fair. On an equal playing field, without gerrymandering and voter suppression, the minority party republicans, whose policies are dictated by the spoiled progeny of the robber barons and their phony think tanks, can’t win an election unless they buy it, which is what they do (citizens united). Why is CA almost totally democratic?… because there is no gerrymandering. Gaming the system is all the pubbers have.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    re robertF 927am – Notice that this new? sackhead does not address the representational disparity pointed out in my 122pm.

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: robert Floss | 27 January 2020 at 09:27 AM</i.
    Pubber is a tell
    Old man conjures new friend
    Trump still president

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    But they said they believed in free and fair elections……

    OH: Democrat Caught on Video Teaching Illegals How to Vote.

    https://lidblog.com/teaching-llegals-to-vote/

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  38. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 27 January 2020 at 10:02 AM
    Thanks for checking for the lost posts…
    Did you my 823a???
    ”’Commission proceedings are subject to the state Open Meetings Act; commission records, redistricting data, and computer software will be available to the public.”’
    The software is available to the public…
    I think it is time that this this becomes a Federal mandate for all states…

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  39. George Rebane Avatar

    odlaW 1036am – I did indeed. What does that say about the effectiveness of such commissions? Apparently you see nothing wrong with setting district boundaries that disenfranchise such a huge share of California voters, while doubling representation for voters of one party affiliation. Add to that super-majorities in the legislature, and we have governance by banana republic standards. Result – no one can nor wants to find any middle ground, or a road back to a multi-party governance. How does this end?

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  40. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    Posted by: George Rebane | 27 January 2020 at 10:54 AM
    Why do you think there is disenfranchisement going on??? The committees are made up equal representation of both parties and independents…
    The super majority issue does not apply to redistricting…
    I suggest you dig in to the redistricting data and computer software to verify your concerns…

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  41. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,There are legal case histories here,,,
    http://redistricting.lls.edu/cases.php#CA

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  42. George Rebane Avatar

    odlaW 1100am – The current state of representation is existential and speaks for itself. I don’t have to follow the causal beam backwards to know that there is dysfunction at work. There is never a reason to keep unchanged methods and processes that produce bad results.

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 27 January 2020 at 11:00 AM
    It’s interesting that you (and all your other imaginary playmates…of course……can’t leave them out!) are usually little more than a feces throwing Howler Monkey and now you think suddenly anyone is interested in your crack analysis of voter issues!
    That’s “jetsy” level delusional!

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  44. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,get back to blowing bubbles fish…
    as usual all you offer is snark…
    and this isn’t the sandbox…
    see ya…wouldn’t want to be ya…

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 27 January 2020 at 11:47 AM
    as usual all you offer is snark…

    You speak the truth…..but it’s funny that “The Man of a Thousand Sock Puppets” complains about it!

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  46. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man@8:23: “Posted by: scenes | 26 January 2020 at 04:44 PM”
    Wuh? lol. I didn’t post anything there. We must have hit a nerve to get so much cuttin’ ‘n pastin’. Hopefully you have your own thoughts now and again.
    The proof is in the pudding of course in terms of districting. Republicans are grossly underrepresented in the California legislature given their numbers. End of story. I expect that you’d be happy if every district in California was 50% + 1 (D) voters and the legislature was 100% Democrat.
    Truth is, as I said before, I haven’t run into a good way to apportion these numbers. A district that is geographically contiguous will likely have some sin in it’s creation. It’s certainly possible to construct a mechanical, yet biased algorithm. Maybe the entire system of representation is flawed.
    Should ethnic minorities have carved out districts? Republicans? Left-handed people? Is California fair? (of course not, the entire system is set up to extract cash from some and hand it out to others…like other governments, just bigger).
    Maybe it would help if the government wasn’t such a central towering figure in our lives. Good luck there.

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  47. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Fish the Poet:
    Pubber is a tell
    Old man conjures new friend

    Trump still president

    lol. Brilliant.

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  48. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ‘’’We must have hit a nerve to get so much cuttin’ ‘n pastin’. Hopefully you have your own thoughts now and again.’’’…who do mean ‘’’we’’’?
    Let me get this straight…you don’t want to open links because they are ‘’’opinions’’’…
    Then…when I post links with factual info you bitch that I am not offering enough opinion, lol!!!
    Black representation??? WTF…it is about political representation not affirmative action, lol!!!
    I got you so called disenfranchisement right here boys…let’s count the states…
    https://ballotpedia.org/Veto_overrides_in_state_legislatures

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  49. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 1007am – Very nice haiku. A small nit to make it a formal 5-7-5, insert the article ‘a’ into the second line to read ‘Old man conjures a new friend’. BTW, is this cultural appropriation from Japan? We have to watch ourselves these days 😉
    odlaW 1215pm – Don’t pay no mind, you’re doing great with your references. Even though I don’t agree with the course of your argument, I do appreciate how you provide civil support for your case. Onward!

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  50. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    comma-man
    “Let me get this straight…you don’t want to open links because they are ‘’’opinions’’’”
    Honestly, I lost track of the thread on this a while back, it’s essentially your topic you are trying to drag people into. I’m fine with reading a factual link, don’t need a page of cuttin’ ‘n pastin’…it’s just not a topic I’m particularly interested in.
    I can see the underlying concept. Republicans are the masters of unfair (whatever that is) gerrymandering because they are bastards and California does a great job of it because it isn’t run by Republicans. And so it goes.
    The interesting thing would be to invent your own concept of governance, or at least a good methodology for picking a legislature. I’m dissatisfied with all I’ve run into.

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