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[Anyone willing to offer a guess as to the date on which the Senate will deliver its verdict?  I'll even take your MAB numbers to see who has the most accurate view of when this kabuki performance will end.  gjr]

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619 responses to “Sandbox – 16jan20”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    odlaw
    Our own “fish” is giving new meaning to the folk phrase “fish out of water”

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: odlaw | 22 January 2020 at 09:41 AM
    Oh dugsKKKiโ€ฆโ€ฆ.you can’t make me care about the things (President Orange Man Bad) that scare you.
    Sorry, not sorry,

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 January 2020 at 09:50 AM
    Our own “fish” is giving new meaning to the folk phrase “fish out of water”

    Maybe you should just stick to your usual overly emotional bleating and leave humor to the professionals.

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  4. berta cross Avatar
    berta cross

    in what people are calling ‘THE BIGGEST LIE EVER TOLD IN THE US SENATE’. White House fake lawyer Pat Cipollone claimed Trump โ€œis a man of his wordโ€ during the proceedings on Tuesday night.
    trump’s lie total now exceeds 16,200.

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  5. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,yes Berta,,,total clownshow dream team…

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Another loss in court for cali –
    Bloomberg) — The U.S. Supreme Court signaled it wonโ€™t take up appeals defending Obamacare during the term that ends in June, rejecting requests by Democratic-led states and the House to put the case on a fast track.
    The appeals, filed separately by the House and a California-led group of 20 states plus the District of Columbia, urge the court to issue a definitive ruling upholding Obamacare. A federal appeals court decision last month found a key piece of the original 2010 law unconstitutional and raised questions about the rest of it.
    The lawmakers and states asked the justices to consider their bids for review on an expedited basis and then to schedule arguments either for late April or during a special session in May. That would have meant a ruling well before the November election.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-refuses-expedite-appeals-143933753.html
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  7. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Bernie Sanders organizers. Lookin’ good.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HooBX2KhGxc

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  8. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 22 January 2020 at 10:54 AM
    Its really not fair that they generate all this campaign material for Bernies oppositionโ€ฆโ€ฆuhhโ€ฆ…his supporters I mean.

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Yet Schiffy gets busted for fabricating evidence.
    Now 24 hours to present evidence they don’t have..

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    UH ON! –
    Wuhan, a Chinese city of nearly 9m people, is to temporarily shut public transport amid a virus outbreak
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51215348
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  11. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Poking around on the interwebz and avoiding real work, I was considering this.
    https://local12.com/news/nation-world/trump-criticizes-california-lawmakers-policies-on-homelessness-cincinnati
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/climate-experts-back-up-trump-claim-on-california-wildfires
    etc.
    vs.
    http://www.startribune.com/bloomberg-sees-california-as-model-on-climate-change-guns/566758982/
    Since people like to simplify things down to models, you can make an argument that the next Presidential election will use California as a symbol pretty heavily. Basically, do you want the rest of the US to look like California or not?

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Another reminder of why holding the Senate was a strategic victory and well ya today –
    Other legal scholars also say Trumpโ€™s appointments are uniquely intellectual.
    โ€œAs someone who is not a Trump fan, I think the appointments have been excellent, overall a brilliant, interesting group of judges… [with] a lot more professor/former professor types than Bush appointed,โ€ David Bernstein, a law professor who teaches constitutional law at George Mason University, told Fox News.
    Trumpโ€™s judicial picks are younger than usual
    Bernstein added that Trump has been appointing very young judges.
    โ€œThey are young… I think age 55 has been the [informal] cutoff, and many are substantially younger, so they will be on the courts for a long time,โ€ Bernstein said.
    The numbers back that up, and the Trump administration touts it. The White House reported in a November fact sheet: โ€œThe average age of circuit judges appointed by President Trump is less than 50 years old โ€“ a full 10 years younger than the average age of President Obamaโ€™s circuit nominees.โ€
    The young and credentialed appointees appear to be part of a conscious effort by the administration to remake the courts.
    “We have to pick a great one, we have to pick one that’s going to be there for 40 years, 45 years,” Trump said during a 2018 rally. “We need intellect, we need — so many things.”
    Bernstein noted that the judges fit the mold of conservative legal philosophy broadly.
    โ€œI think there was a fear in some circles that Trump would appoint cronies and hacks. Hasn’t happened,โ€ he said.
    โ€œTheyโ€™re very distinctly originalist judges,โ€ McGinnis said. โ€œTheyโ€™ll follow precedent — but when there isnโ€™t clear precedent, they will look at the original meaning of the Constitution.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/how-trump-has-reshaped-the-federal-judiciary-3-years-into-his-presidency
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  13. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    …plus I ran into this
    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB1839
    Filled with wonderful phrases. “environmental racism” “live in a stable climate” (back to my point that the global warmingcooling people really just want a thermostat) “environmental justice” “just transition” “full inclusion of immigrant and refugee communities in a just society”
    I just live for this stuff.
    I’m all for it. The opportunities for amusing mayhem when the state extracts fat stacks of cash from business owners and worker bees to hand over to favored people is quite high. Fighting over the money will look like dinner time at the hyena den.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I donโ€™t know why the Dems get upset when we call them socialists. The policies they promote are certainly socialistic and their rhetoric takes socialism to the level of communism. If defending murderous tyrannical regimes in Cuba, Venezuela, China, and Iran ainโ€™t proof, what is? Birds of a feather poop together.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Daily Quotes
    For the record: โ€œThe second vote Chuck Schumer ever cast as a United States Senator was to NOT allow witnesses in the Clinton impeachment trial. Today heโ€™s spent nearly 10 hours fighting to call new witnesses in the Trump impeachment trial. What changed, Chuck?โ€ โ€”Charlie Kirk
    Trailblazing: โ€œAdam Schiff must be the first prosecutor to show up at a trial and say, โ€˜Gosh, there are a bunch of things I donโ€™t know about this case but would be interested in finding out.โ€™โ€ โ€”Rich Lowry
    Non compos mentis: โ€œIโ€™m not here to villainize and to say that billionaires are inherently morally corrupt โ€” but they are, I mean, I think there is a case, but um, but, itโ€™s not to say that, itโ€™s to say that this system that we live in, life in capitalism, always ends in billionaires. If you donโ€™t do it, someone else will. Itโ€™s who decides to make that choice is just kind of up to, you know, circumstance.โ€ โ€”Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    Pot, meet kettle: โ€œNobody likes [Bernie Sanders], nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. Itโ€™s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.โ€ โ€”Hillary Clinton on Bernie Sanders
    Braying jenny: โ€œHow could we have known? [Harvey Weinstein] raised money for me, for the Obamas, for Democrats in general. And that at the time was something that everybody thought made sense. Of course, if all of us had known what we know now, it would have affected our behavior.โ€ โ€”Hillary Clinton
    Belly laugh of the week: โ€œWe do have some well-off people who support Democratic candidates, thereโ€™s no doubt about that, but theyโ€™ve never bought a TV station. Theyโ€™ve never gobbled up radio stations. Theyโ€™ve never created newspapers in local communities to put out propaganda. Thatโ€™s all been done not just by Murdoch and Fox, but by Sinclair and by the Koch brothers and by so many others who have played a long game about how we really influence the thinking of Americans.โ€ โ€”Hillary Clinton complaining that the Leftmedia doesnโ€™t have enough influence
    And lastโ€ฆ โ€œWatching Schiff lecture us all about fair process is like attending a sportsmanship conference hosted by the Houston Astros.โ€ โ€”The Daily Callerโ€™s Eddie Zipperer
    Bonus: You go girl!
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-tulsi-gabbard-files-defamation-lawsuit-against-hillary-clinton

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Schiff has to be mentally ill. Not only are we hearing his fantasies about Trump we are seeing he believes they are real. My goodness, what is up with these California democrats?

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  17. Walt Avatar

    The Schitt show is so bad, even the local TROLLS ain’t showing up.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: scenes | 22 January 2020 at 11:32 AM
    71440. (a) This part shall be known, and may be cited, as the California Green New Deal.
    (b) It is the intent of the Legislature that the state adopt a policy framework to implement, through principles and goals, a commitment to reduce severe climate change impacts while protecting the public health and the environment, to overcome systemic racial injustice, and to ensure all California residents enjoy a 21st century standard of living without regard to their wealth or income.
    (c) The Legislature finds and declares that all residents of the state have the right to do all of the following:
    (1) Contribute to, and be sustainably compensated for, services or other meaningful work in advancement of the public good.
    (2) Contribute to a sufficiently funded public sector, to which those who accumulate extraordinary wealth will provide a significantly greater contribution.
    (3) Have access to clean, affordable, carbon-free, and reliable utilities, including energy and communications.
    (4) Have access to justice and reconciliation for the communities most severely impacted by institutional racism, including environmental racism, from the birth of this nation to the present.
    (5) Be able to have equality and the full inclusion of immigrant and refugee communities in a just society.
    (6) Have access to affordable housing in a healthy and sustainable community.
    (7) Have access and mobility within and between communities, including safe, affordable, reliable, healthy, and carbon-free transportation choices, including public transportation.
    (8) Have clean air, clean drinking water, healthy food, access to nature and natural outdoor spaces, and live in a stable climate.
    (9) Obtain protection from current and increasing climate change impacts.
    (10) Have equal opportunity to influence the decisions that affect our communities and workplaces, regardless of wealth or status.
    (11) Have access to debt-free and quality public education from preschool through college, including job training for those seeking to transition to new clean-economy jobs.
    (12) Have comprehensive, affordable health care.

    There is nothing that the California Legislature can write that hasn’t been pre-lampooned!
    I imagine at some point something like this was heard in chambers:

    Reg: What?
    Stan: I want to be a woman. From now on I want you all to call me Roberta.
    Reg: What!?
    Stan: It’s my right as a man.
    Judith: Why do you want to be Roberta, Stan?
    Stan: I want to have babies.
    Reg: You want to have babies?!?!?!
    Stan: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
    Reg: But you can’t have babies.
    Stan: Don’t you oppress me.
    Reg: I’m not oppressing you, Stan — you haven’t got a womb. Where’s the
    fetus going to gestate? You going to keep it in a box? (Stan starts crying.)
    Judith: Here! I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually
    have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even the
    Romans’, but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
    Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to
    have babies, brother. Sister, sorry.
    Reg: (pissed) What’s the *point*?
    Francis: What?
    Reg: What’s the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he
    can’t have babies?
    Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
    Reg: It’s symbolic of his struggle against reality.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    From Russia with love AGAIN, whereโ€™s 007 when you need him?

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    I had no idea Punchy was on the campaign trailโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ

    Biden Punchy flips out at reporter: โ€˜Why why why why why why why?!?โ€™

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/biden-flips-out-at-reporter-why-why-why-why-why-why-why/

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 1147am – This is an oft-circled barn on RR, and needs to take another lap now and then. The Left doesn’t like us to call them ‘socialists’, ‘collectivists’, ‘communists’, ‘central planners and controllers’, …, not because they aren’t, but because they know what people think of such folks. So while they still haven’t taken over the country, they’d rather not have their objectives and plans for the rest of us pointed out.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Todd writes: “what is up with these California democrats?”
    My response is: what is up with these California Republicans? Whoops, my error, there are no California Republicans.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well of course the pony tail of ignorance answers his own question since no one else cares enough to answer. LOL
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ROFLMAO
    โ€œMy response is: what is up with these California Republicans? Whoops, my error, there are no California Republicans.โ€ โ€”-The Green Punch
    Oh my, my. Tell that yarn about no Republicans in California to the folks of State Assembly District I, the folks of your State Senate District, and the folks of your Congressional District, They would love to hear that thought provoking analysis.
    Must be hard of The Punch living in a Red District.
    โ€œIt ainโ€™t easy being green.โ€ โ€”-Kermit the Frog.
    This is MAGA country.

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don @ 2:51 pm
    Careful now. Letโ€™s not be so rough on him.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRfs8LD-GS8

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  26. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    From the Rolling Stone: A unifying messenger
    Media Stupidity Is Uniting Left and Right
    After CNNโ€™s debate ambush and MSNBCโ€™s body-language analysis, loathing of media is becoming a crossover phenomenon
    โ€œPeople in the media business underestimate, by a lot, the damage the last three years have done to their ability to reach not just Trump fans but non-Trump Republicans, independents, libertarians, Greens, and other groups. The latest fiascoes with Sanders double as confirmation for these people of their worst conclusions about media, and an additional insult that such goofball messaging is only now attracting the notice of some on the โ€œother side. โ€œ
    Sanders now looks poised to receive the same kind of bump Trump got in 2016 from media stupidity. As was the case this past summer when the Bezos-owned Washington Post went so far as to put the term โ€œcorporate mediaโ€ in quotation marks while denouncing Bernieโ€™s โ€œbogus media beef,โ€ the institutional dismissal has been so over-the-top that itโ€™s likely to earn him sympathy even with disinterested parties. Is there a word for propaganda in reverse?โ€
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/media-bernie-sanders-donald-trump-david-brooks-940213/

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    Schumer say senate trial has ‘a cloud hanging over it’.

    He’s correctโ€ฆโ€ฆ.that clouds nameโ€ฆโ€ฆ.Charles Schumer!

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Oh yea Bill
    There’s a few in outlying rural areas such as Plumas County and towns like Alturas and Susanville.. they are pretty irrelevant nowadays in Nevada County. Certainly a shell of their former selves.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I mean Bill California is down to six, yes that’s six congressional districts in the entire State. Soon it will be down to 5 when California congressman Duncan Hunter, who plead guilty in a corruption case, resigns and heads for the slam.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Yet your still out of self employment Emery. See? Commiecrats know what’s best for you.
    Just a few state laws away before your Soylent Green. Fitting for a Green LIB.

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  31. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “It’s being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here”
    RIP Terry Jones
    “It’s two down, four to go”- John Cleese

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 22 January 2020 at 04:08 PM
    โ€ฆ. they are pretty irrelevant nowadays in Nevada County. Certainly a shell of their former selves.

    So which is it Punchโ€ฆโ€ฆ.you’re either doing your Old Man happy dance that the Republicans are going the way of the Dodo or you’re whining that there are no Republicans to save the democrats from themselves!
    To the casual observer it appears as though you’re not completely sane.
    How was lunch with George?

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  33. fish Avatar
    fish

    Looks like I was rightโ€ฆโ€ฆ.imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

    Bloomberg rises to 4th place in new national pollโ€ฆ

    The dems are about to have their very own “White Male Billionaire, with #metoo problems”!
    Knew you guys had it in you to bite the bullet and get your own version of Trump!

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    https://www.mynevadacounty.com/703/Voter-Registration
    Punchy, it still looks like the GOP is still about half.
    GOP + AIP is 25k
    Dem is 25k
    LIB is 1k
    GRN + P&F is 1K
    No Party Preference is 16k

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Sooner than later the Geneva Convention will be invoked.
    There are laws against torture.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-impeachment-trial-restless-senators-struggle-sit-through-schiff-opening-argument

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  36. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    If Schiff was a Vogon, his intestines would have raised up and strangled him by now.
    I’ve had the NPR/Crapital Public Radio gravel to gravel coverage on for much of the day… I would jump for joy were Schiff’s parentage to be revealed as illegal Vogon immigrants right about now.

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Since Emery is pissed that Repubs threw in the towel on Kailf.
    He should be more than joyous that the have saved the nation.
    He should be shining Trump’s shoes. But NOPE,, no making the buzzard of Broad ST. happy.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Gregory
    Just looking at State and Fed election counts for Nevada County for the last two election cycles and it’s practically all Dem. Hillary for Pres for example Newsom for Gov on and on and on Dems for congress .

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  39. odlaw Avatar
    odlaw

    ,,,what I love about the Roundtable Trump Suckers is the level of their denial…
    “More than 500 professors say Trump “engaged in impeachable conduct” – many links available
    We have FBI and DOJ liassons overseas whose job it is to investigate the likes of Trump’s fantasy crimes about Crowdstrike, Biden nefarious activities, and Ukraine hacking our elections…
    But!!! Trump sends Caped Crusader Magnum Bay Boy P.I. his private investigator to solve all these crimes…
    Why do you think Trump did this???

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  40. Walt Avatar

    They don’t count Dougy. Their opinion and 60 bucks will get you a bag of weed in Nevada City.

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  41. Walt Avatar

    Do ask them about Schiffy’s manufactured evidence.

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  42. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    “Practically All” being 53%, in the Governor’s race?
    That’s a usage of the term “Practically All” of which I was previously unaware.
    Why lie about something so easily checked, Punch?

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    TRUE DAT! Feckless dems couldn’t make the case and want to change the rules that they have no say over. Typical. –
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tom-del-beccaro-in-trump-impeachment-dems-commit-malpractice-wrongly-expect-senate-to-do-job-of-house
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  44. @the real Robert Cross Avatar
    @the real Robert Cross

    in the “It’s a coverup stupid’ category –trumpler said today “. “But honestly, we have all the material. They don’t have the material.” in reference to possible incriminating evidence. Kind of like when he openly adimitted that if a foreign government had dirt on an opponent “I think I’d like to hear it.” and the famous “if your listening” gaffe. Moscow Mitch needs to get this over before trumpler openly admits he abused the office of President.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    Administrivia – Please note the 22jan20 Scattershots update that invites Senate trial comments. Thank you.

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  46. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Paul Emery: “Gregory
    Just looking at State and Fed election counts for Nevada County for the last two election cycles and it’s practically all Dem. Hillary for Pres for example Newsom for Gov on and on and on Dems for congress .”
    Gregory: “”Practically All” being 53%, in the Governor’s race?
    That’s a usage of the term “Practically All” of which I was previously unaware.
    Why lie about something so easily checked, Punch?”
    That’s actually a pretty good question.
    Why lie about something so easily checked? Does lying come naturally or is it a learned behavior?

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Come on now don’t go screwing up the talking point with facts, schiff for brains might stroke out! LOL!!

    No wonder we have pink hat wearing blue mobs and red guard antifa pieces of shit running amok. Free speech means parroting the party line or else, if you don’t you are attacked in every way possible –
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/01/22/study-professors-donate-to-democrats-more-than-republicans-95-to-1/
    ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  48. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Roberta Cross | 22 January 2020 at 07:01 PM
    โ€ฆ..still president Bertie!

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