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Google’s AI does breast cancer diagnoses.  “Google’s health research unit said it has developed an artificial-intelligence system that can match or outperform radiologists at detecting breast cancer, according to new research. But doctors still beat the machines in some cases. … The AI system outperformed the average radiologist in determining whether the women would develop breast cancer.”, as reported in the 2jan20 WSJ (here).  The AI’s performance stats are impressive, and then comes the insane part.  Due to bureaucratic and regulatory concerns which essentially make ‘perfect’ be the enemy of the ‘good’, the AI “isn’t yet ready for clinical use”.  The correct answer is that it is more than ready for clinical use, because there is no reasonable downside to its use in tandem with practicing radiologists.  Since the algo already outperforms humans, it can be introduced in phases with various practitioners all over the country while research continues toward the elusive perfect.  Here is another problem for which we should always look to government as being its probable first cause, and government’s stand-down as being the most obvious first approach to a solution.

Japanification2020Does “Japanification” loom in America’s future?  The answer may well be YES.  In addition to some bad fiscal and monetary policies over the last 30 years, it’s Japan’s aging demographics that have put a stifling curse on its economy.  We have some disturbing similarities – “Developed economies that are maturing that have demographic headwinds are going to face many of the same things Japan has been facing over decades. … Like Japan, the U.S. has an aging population and a concentration of industry among a small number of giant businesses. In 2019, U.S. interest rates fell sharply, sparking serious discussion in markets, perhaps for the first time, of whether long-term rates could fall to zero or even turn negative. That already has happened in Japan and in much of Europe.” (more here)  Yes, Europe with its heavily socialistic governments have even more concentration of their industries (c.f. corporatism) and are already suffering the early stages of Japanification.   Progressive governments’ hip-level response to such economic headwinds is to turn the screws on for more central planning and control with disastrous results as have occurred recently in Chile (see below).  Our Democratic leftists have that and more in store for us should they increase their control of the levers of power. 


Chile – Latin America’s ‘Oasis’ Descends Into Chaos.  So we witness from recent, but lamestream muted, news that is detailed by Axel Kaiser, head of a Chilean think tank, in the 2dec20 WSJ and confirmed by Chile’s Central Bank.  Chile achieved South America’s posterchild status over the years by applying liberal policies of free market capitalism, until its population fell again under the sway of socialist politicians and started demanding ever ‘more’ through their government.  In a “mere 40 days” the country has exploded from initial demonstrations against a fare increase in public transportation to rioting for wholesale grievances.  During these short weeks of “massive demonstrations and wanton violence” the country has suffered “ more than $2 billion in losses and damages, more than 1,200 looted retail stores, an estimated 300,000 new unemployed, 25 dead, more than 2,000 injured police officers, and a political and economic crisis with no end in sight.” (more here)  This was preceded by socialist president Michelle Bachelet’s policies (2014-18) where she “increased corporate taxes by 30%; signed a law banning the replacement of workers on strike, thereby dramatically increasing the costs of labor; increased public spending at three times the economic growth rate; and unleashed armies of regulatory bureaucrats on the private sector.”  All this is one more demonstration of the art of the possible when collectivists gain control of a liberal democracy with a wealth generating economy.  And this year in America we again stand at the crossroads.

[3jan20 update]. Trump took out Iran’s top general who had flown to Iraq to plan/direct more killings of Americans and Iraqis.  To nail him on his way from the airport into Baghdad – a 15 minute trip – required rapid decision making and quick reaction by deployed forces.  Thanks to our CIC, the operation was a success, killing both Gen Qassem Soleimani and a top Iraqi terrorist leader in cahoots with the Iranians.  Under Soleimani the Iranians have killed countless American troops, perpetrated many incidents in violation of international laws, attempted to disrupt Europe’s energy supply, and killed other innocents worldwide.  He was sanctioned not to leave Iran, especially not travel to Iraq, a dubious ally attempting to stabilize while fighting Iran-sponsored terrorists, and still nominally under American military control.  (We have to remember Iraq was also a rogue country that invaded its neighbors and threatened world commerce.  They are now attempting to recover, but not working very hard at it, even though some Iraqis are dancing in the streets to celebrate the assassination.)  So, for that gift to world civilization President Trump is now being vilified, as expected, by our Democrats who dun him for not first getting their permission.  According to lights shared by tens of millions of Americans including me, our president did the right thing at the right time.  Telling people that this act will now somehow throw the otherwise peaceful Middle East into a war is a fraud that again takes advantage of our light thinkers.

Trump’s Iran strategy?  The TDS crowd accuses the president of acting with spontaneous tactics that support no overarching strategy – to them the killing of Iran’s Soleimani is just the most recent example of that.  To many of us who have studied the history and politics of the middle east, Trump’s strategy for that quarter of the world is obvious, even though it is not always consistently supported by tactics – but then what strategy with that many moving parts has ever been consistently pursued by past governments?  We know that under the mullahs Iran wants to become the regional hegemon, a goal that also motivates Turkey’s foreign policy.  Iran cannot achieve that without becoming a nuclear power, and will do whatever is necessary to enter into the world’s expanding nuclear club.  It is beyond naïve to think that all these so-called preventative agreements will actually stop Iran’s development of a deliverable nuclear bomb and the missile technology to deliver it.  Iran is already in close cahoots with two major nuclear powers – Russia and China – and is a weapons technology trading partner with the Ugly Fat Kid.  Under Iran’s religious fanatics (who are also end-timers), that nation will do nothing but keep the Iranian people in a tyrannical misery, and continue its bid to militarily dominate the middle east.  Only a fundamental change in its governance will transform Iran into a normative country with whom the world can have a profitable and peaceful relationship.  In a very complex world, our strategy is to prudently promote such a change.  Killing their top leadership while doing out-country dirty work is prudent, while sending them planeloads of palleted cash is demonstrably not.

[4jan20 update]  RL Crabb nails it on California’s new AB5 in his new cartoon filched from the pages of the 4jan20 Union (here).

RLCrabb200104

The so-called ‘gig economy’ has been a mainstay of our entrepreneurship, economic health, and the very welcome mat to developing new products, technologies, and services along with starting countless new businesses.  Being able to directly sell one’s talents and services to a willing customer who can hire you with minimal encumbrances for an indefinite length of time on mutually agreed upon terms is a fundamental trait of free enterprise and markets, and it is the widest lane on the road to the American dream.  When we came to America, my father traveled on it and so did I.  Now California, in one of its most butt stupid (vs ignorant) moves ever, has passed AB5 into law, which essentially does away with the ability to sell your services to any and all willing customers on a consulting and temporary basis – you now have to be hired as an employee with all the rites, rights, regulations, and costs that go along with that in our state’s woke socialist society.  In 2019 California outdid itself adopting a slate of new public policies which confirmed that Sacramento is run by certifiable idiots.  (more here)

Speaking of woke progressives, Peggy Noonan in the 4jan20 WSJ opens the new year with a very thoughtful column (here) from which the following is excerpted.

“The past decade saw the rise of the woke progressives who dictate what words can be said and ideas held, thus poisoning and paralyzing American humor, drama, entertainment, culture and journalism. In the coming 10 years someone will effectively stand up to them. They are the most hated people in America, and their entire program is accusation: you are racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic; you are a bigot, a villain, a white male, a patriarchal misogynist, your day is over. They never have a second move. Bow to them, as most do, and they’ll accuse you even more of newly imagined sins. They claim to be vulnerable victims, and moral. Actually they’re not. They’re mean and seek to kill, and like all bullies are cowards. … Everyone with an honest mind hates them. Someone will finally move effectively against them. Who? How? That will be a story of the ’20s, and a good one.”

Mass migrations in America.  So here’s the drill according to the US Census Bureau for 2019 (more similar results are still incoming).  Net in (+) and out (-) migrations for the following states are –

            CA       -203,000          FL        +134,000

            NY      -181,000          TX       +126,000

            IL        -105,000          AZ       + 91,000

            NJ        – 49,000           NC       + 67,000

            MA      – 30,000           SC       + 53,000

Now we have a simple question the answer to which progressives are guaranteed miss – actually, they don’t even acknowledge the above data.  These were migrations overwhelmingly of middle-class workers seeking lower costs of living and a better life for their families – the gimmes went the other way.  So, can you tell which states had higher taxes, more regulations, higher crime and indigent rates, and generally were drifting toward shithole status, and which states had exactly the opposite attributes?  For extra credit, can you tell which states are the Blue states, and which are Red?  As confirmed in these pages, our double-blindered leftwingers’ denials don’t speak well for their intellectual acumen, but their denials completely explain their love of the disastrous public policies that cause such mass migrations.

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145 responses to “Scattershots – 2jan20 (updated 4jan20)”

  1. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Scenes 255pm
    The “odd duck”, Turkey, is what’s left of the murderous Ottoman Empire. Not much chance of bro’hood with the folks who struggled against them, or suffered the first modern genocide at their hands.

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  2. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Gregory: “Them dying was to be the tripwire if Turks attacked. ”
    Generally, I’ve always been uncomfortable with the concept of a ‘tripwire’. It’s an area where I would probably disagree with chunks of the Rebane Doctrine, but the post-WWII US concept of forward basing has largely been a matter of that. US presence in South Korea, particularly in the northern parts of the country, and the location of anti-Warsaw Pact US forces (USAREUR? my memory fades.) always seemed poised to be flattened…mostly to grease the skids of US public policy.
    I suppose that one basic question to be answered is whether a German (or Korean) national is worth as much as a US citizen. At what cost should they be defended? To be purely honest, there’s probably a sliding scale of nationalities in terms of value, you can certainly see that in terms of policy and it changes over time.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I am tempted to comment more on Turkey, but I feel it is best to wait for Jon to consult his Turkish friend to let us know what to think.
    One thing for sure is that Trump kinda meant it when he said he wanted to bring our troops home. Whether he can remains to be seen. The Left is now in bed with the Establishment,, which kinda defeats the purpose of being a Lefty. Strange times.
    Soviet Prime Minister Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev tried to de-Stalinize the USSR with democratic reforms and a pull back from the Soviet Republics to avoid a Cold War, but was overruled by the real powers in the USSR, aka, the Establishment. Military Industrial Complex, Deep State, and all that. They tossed Khrushchev ass out, but I did like his shoe pounding at the UN. The Deep State loves My Gal and that’s why Hillary was their Coronated One, but I digress.
    Best to wait for “just a bureaucratic blunder” Jon.. What difference at this point does it matter anyway?

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  4. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: Gregory@2:48PM
    I have some notion of that.
    Remember what Bismark said about the Balkans.

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  5. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: Gregory “The “odd duck”, Turkey, is what’s left of the murderous Ottoman Empire. ”
    We’d have to ask Constantine XI Dragases Palaeologus about that to get the real scoop I suppose.

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  6. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The Balkans were set up to be the buffer between France and Germany, and the Ottomans.
    The Ottomans at their largest almost reached Vienna to the West and Kiev to the north.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire#/media/File:OttomanEmpireMain.png

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  7. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    And now a word from the socialist blue mobs favorite has been –
    Kaepernick Accuses Military of ‘Terrorist Attacks,’ Calls Troops Plunderers of the ‘Non White World’
    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/01/04/kaepernick-military-denounces-troops-as-plunderers-of-the-non-white-world/
    😉

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    I like that 52 targets in honor of the 52 diplomatic hostages taken by those mutha mullahs –
    “Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD,” Trump said Saturday, explicitly laying out that the U.S. will act if Iran retaliates.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-trump-warns-iran-we-have-targeted-52-iranian-sites
    😉

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    And now, the war of words:
    “He (General Soleimani) already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years,” Trump continued. “Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-makes-major-announcement-in-new-threats-toward-iran-iran-signals-readiness-for-war
    One has to marvel at the intelligence we gathered that was used for taking out Qasem Soleimani.
    “There was an attack that was eminent that could have killed dozens or hundreds of Americans. We found an opportunity, and we delivered,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Fox News on Friday. “He was traveling the region when he landed in Baghdad. The travels before that put him in places all around the region which were aimed solely at building out what they were referring to as ‘the big attack.’ They were aiming to take down significant amounts of Americans.”
    “It would have undoubtedly killed locals, too, Iraqis, Lebanese, Syrians, perhaps, people all throughout the region,” Pompeo continued. “This was an attack that would have been to some scale. We can’t talk much about the details, but suffice [it] to say, the American people can know that the decision that President Trump made to take Qasem Soleimani down saved American lives.”
    The Department of Defense confirmed Pompeo’s remarks in a statement: “General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more. He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months – including the attack on December 27th – culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week.”
    ——-
    Seems to me it is the President’s job to protect American lives and assets against a designated terror organization’s attacks on Americans. We have finally taken a front seat in our political destiny. American lives matter.

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The back story –
    …the plan that prompted the U.S. air strike that killed him.
    “Imminent and sinister attacks on American diplomats and military personnel, but we caught him in the act.”
    Two militia commanders and two security sources have told Reuters of a meeting in Baghdad in October between Soleimani and several Iraqi paramilitary leaders, all allied to Iran.
    Among them was Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis – also killed in Thursday’s (January 2) strike.
    At the time headlines were dominated by the massive anti-government protests in Iraq, in which hundreds died.
    Protests sparked in part by outrage over Iran’s influence in Iraqi politics and its security forces.
    So, Soleimani instructed the militias — all longtime enemies of the States — to increase the number of attacks and frequency on U.S. targets.
    The sources say the goal was to provoke a powerful military response that would redirect the protesters’ anger against the Americans.
    Iran has long denied involvement in attacks on U.S. target but, according to the sources, Muhandis’s group was picked to lead the operation.
    Some attacks had already begun.
    A U.S. military source says forensic analysis of the attackers’ advanced weapons then linked it back to Iran.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/iranian-plan-soleimanis-death-thwarted-180411118.html
    😉

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  11. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill
    You seemed to not complain about Bush when he was totally incompetent in dealing with
    the lead up to 9-11 when the Saudis were openly enrolling in flight schools training for for their hijacks. The camaraderie between the Saudi’s and the Bush family went way back

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  12. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    BDS back in full effect @458, face it ya po’ol’ fakenewsman you can not engage realistically just revert to the talking points. You rank right up there with stupid and ignorant TDS/BDS folks like this –
    The State Department noted: “In 2016, the U.S. Treasury Department identified and sanctioned three senior AQ [Al Qaeda] operatives residing in Iran and noted that Iran had knowingly permitted these AQ members, including several of the 9/11 hijackers, to transit its territory on their way to Afghanistan for training and operational planning.”
    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/steve-kerr-mike-pence-iran-soleimani
    😉

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  13. Walt Avatar

    Well Emery,, who could see into the future before 9-11? You?
    Did you know about Arabs enrolled in one way fight training?
    How come you didn’t say anything? BDS rides again…
    So OHHH great Emery.. Rubbing your crystal balls to tell us of the next great gov. screw up? Date and time please!

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    According to PaulE, the newly elected Bush2 was supposed to know more than the CIA, the Mossad, and the EU intelligence services about the Bin Laden’s 9/11 plan and work-in-progress. I think this kind of naive commentary casts Monday morning quarterbacking in a whole new light. Now isn’t being a liberal really easy?

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Iran may have forgotten. They ain’t dealing with “O” anymore.
    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/04/trump-warning-iran-revenge/
    Iran and the like have been making threats for years. “we are going to do THIS!! WE are going to do THAT!! DEATH to America!! bla bla bla….”
    Trump is like a police dog. As they say..” The dog don’t “f*ck around.”
    You want world Peace Emery? You start by beating the shit out of the bad guys. What’s your answer? Paying them off? a nice cozy hand job?
    Your idea of being “nice” and plenty of apologies(like from your boy “O”) sure worked out swell.

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bush was in charge of defending our Country George and he failed pure and simple. He responded by invading Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. The Republicans have a poor record of defending our country George any way you look at it. Trumps latest misadventure is just the current example.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Not long ago,(just last month) the peaceniks were out protesting by one of the Beale AFB gates. Plenty of the usual signs and a fine tissue paper peace sign created on the chain link fence. Was that Emery strumming his guitar singing to the passing cars?(windows up and everything)
    Coming by the next morning, all that peace garbage was still there.. Left for others to clean up.

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  18. Walt Avatar

    DAMN Emery,, forget Vietnam was a Democrat’s war?
    That worked out swell.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Just have another drink Emery… That will make it all better.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 January 2020 at 05:53 PM
    Yeah……excellent point Punch…..you probably don’t want to vote Republican again this election.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Nixon was the one who lost the war Walt.

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE’s 553pm is gratefully accepted as Exhibit A for my 542pm, and even explaining away the above mass migration stats. So noted.
    And Paul’s 614pm is literally over the top. What Nixon was handed in 1969 was an eight year ongoing disaster, and in 1973 he got us out of another Democrat initiated land war in Asia, just as Eisenhower got us out of the Korean conflict in 1953 right after he was inaugurated.
    All this again confirms is that we have become two distinct peoples, sharing only a set of national boundaries and precious little else – most certainly not a common history, or a worldview, or the workings of reason and logic, or understandings of human behavior and motivation, or mores and values, or a desired destiny. In this configuration we remain nothing but a growing irritation to each other, the resolution of which remains ominously unknown.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now Dr R, the pony tail of ignorance set is never bothered by the reality of any situation. He is just happy to be a good ol’ party parrot. Sad.
    😉

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  24. Walt Avatar

    Holy shit Emery,, you have lost what marbles you had left.
    And you still claim not to smoke dope?
    Whoever is looking over Emery’s shoulder there at the bar, please tell us how many shots of that cheap shit he downs, he has had. Tell the barmaid to cut him off.

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  25. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The socialist dems are being willfully ignorant and do not feel any embarrassment in their ignorance, Iran’s shit has been happening across the region for years and even hotter in recent years. I am highly confidant that none of them even bother to educate themselves beyond the approved talking points for lefties sans facts or any real historical perspective.

    I mean really, the mutha mullahs history seems to escape them all. Ok lets not look at 40 years since that’s too hard. How about the last 5 with a focus on their open offensive actions like thanker, oil production and our $100,000,000.00 drone in international air space most recently which are all acts of war. We are not alone and the unsinkable Jewish aircraft carrier is always playing hard ball –
    El Arabiya television reported that the strike hit Iranian ballistic missiles being transported in refrigerated food trucks. Several Hezbollah and Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps members were reportedly killed,
    A second strike targeted another Iranian base, according to Asharq Al-Awsat. “The Ashraf base in Iraq, a former base used by the Iranian opposition People’s Mujahedin of Iran, was targeted by an air raid,” according to the newspaper. “The base lies 80 kilometers from the border with Iran and 40 kilometers northeast of Baghdad. The sources revealed that the strikes targeted Iranian ‘advisors’ and a ballistic missile shipment that had recently arrived from Iran to Iraq.”
    Compounding the mystery were initial reports that unidentified drones conducted the attacks.
    Amos Yadlin, former head of Israeli military intelligence, told U.S. publication Breaking Defense that Israel probably did attack Iranian targets in Iraq. “Apparently, Israel is really operating in Iraq,” he said. “It is sensible that Israel will not claim responsibility for such an attack as it may complicate things for the U.S. Without referring to the specific attack I can say that the F-35 is the ideal aircraft for such an attack.”
    As so often in the Middle East, especially in the shadow war between Israel and Iran, it’s hard to know exactly what happened. The tale changes with whoever tells it, and why they’re telling it. Still, we can make some educated guesses.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-israel-really-bomb-iraq-200000449.html
    😉

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    Are you trying to say that Bush did not lose the war in Iraq? Can you name one thing he accomplished at the cost of 5000 American lives and trillions of dollars of debt that have to this day not been paid for? I challenge you to come up with one accomplishment our country achieved as a result of Bush’s war.
    Also George, if you recall, Nixon escalated the war into Laos and Cambodia, with the loss of an additional 22,000 American lives before he threw in the flag saying we quit as the Viet Cong were storming through Saigon dragging people off helicopters as they tried to escape.
    Senior Bush got it right with pushing Saddam and his troops back into Baghdad and getting the hell out.
    Now we’ve got trump trying to save his election with as yet unverified reasons to escalate our tensions with Iran to possibly war. He will need to answer to Congress about reasons for the assassination so we’ll see. It’s all because we are still in Iraq even though they want us out and are storming the streets.

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  27. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    THE LATEST ON IRAN
    “…..You might think American Democrats would respond in similar fashion, or at least you might have thought so in an earlier era of American history. In fact, Democrats have pretty much universally condemned President Trump for taking strong action in retaliation for Iran’s besieging the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad–in some cases, just hours after they criticized Trump for responding weakly to the embassy attack. No one expects consistency from Democrats.
    Iran has been issuing threats nonstop–no surprise there–and President Trump has again responded via (what else?) Twitter:”
    “………I like that–52 sites for the 52 American hostages, taken during a low ebb of American history and now, perhaps, to be avenged. Is Trump serious? I think so, yes. It reminds me of a story about Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant. Or maybe it was Sherman. I couldn’t readily find it in my Civil War library, but it goes something like this: Lincoln was riding in a carriage in close proximity to Union troops, maybe he was reviewing them. A Union soldier approached Lincoln’s carriage and accosted the president, telling him a story that he thought Lincoln would hear sympathetically. The soldier had had some sort of conflict with the commanding general–Grant, I think, although it might have been Sherman–and the general had threatened to shoot the soldier if he didn’t obey orders. The soldier related this story in an outraged manner, but Lincoln replied along the lines of: “I know General Grant [or Sherman], and I believe he would do it. If I were you, I would do what he says.”
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/the-latest-on-iran.php

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 731pm – We’re not going to recircle that barn Paul. You will never accept the results of Bush2’s Gulf War as having had any benefit to the security of Europe’s oil supply, mid-east power balance, and the post-Saddam self-determination of the Iraqi people. Was it ‘perfect victory’? Far from it. The same ‘victory’ with warts and all can be argued (but not with you) about Afghanistan. I’ll have more to say later about my recommendations for our mid-east policy going forward. But I don’t think you guys have anything to recommend other that rehashing TDS motivated grousings.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    Here we go. Emery trying to write history again.
    Try reading it first Emery.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 4:58 pm
    “Bill
    You seemed to not complain about Bush when he was totally incompetent in dealing with
    the lead up to 9-11 when the Saudis were openly enrolling in flight schools……”.
    Well Paul, I don’t seem to complain because I don’t want to be accused of going on a diatribe and copying and pasting to anchor something. Something bad, I imagine. That hurt my feeling and made me feel sad. I am a sensitive guy of the Phil Donahue school of thought. So, no complaining today!
    The way I see it is Trump wants us out of Iraq as well. He wants to bring our troops home wherever possible, so much so that Mad Dog Mattis the Warrior Monk resigned over Trump’s America First Policy. And John Bolton, the war hawk who never saw something he did not want to bomb, yet now beloved by the media (and you) got the boot for his hawkish approach to Little Rocketman.
    So, how does Trump do it? I could be wrong, but Trump’s plan appears to be to fall back and let Saudia Arabia check the Iranians. The old Shite vs Sunni conflict. We arm the crap out of the Saudis and they, in turn, kill the Persians and other Arabs. Muslim vs Muslim and let Allah sort them out.
    George Washington warned is not to have long lasting alliances with countries. Things change.
    Now, click your red ruby slippers together three times and say, “ Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi.”

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “But I don’t think you guys have anything to recommend other that rehashing TDS motivated grousings.
    Posted by: George Rebane | 04 January 2020 at 07:41 PM“
    Ah contraire, Dr. Rebane. If I may be so bold to point out we are Not rehashing TDS motivated grousing. It may have started out that why, but the keen observer will note that we have regressed into BDS for the past several hours.
    Let’s do the Time Warp again!

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Bill writes “Trump’s plan appears to be to fall back and let Saudi Arabia check the Iranians.”
    You’ve got to be kidding!!! The Saudi’s can’t even scratch out a victory in Yemen with millions of dollars of our aid and you think they can match up to Iran? You are either hopelessly uneducated in the matter or you believe that this is what Trump has up his sleeve. Unbelievable!!!

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So George I take it you feel the 5000 American soldiers killed and trillions of dollars spent on the war in Iraq was worth it.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Still haven’t figured it out Emery? Why should they, when they can get others to do their dirty work? (Like US)…

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yemen is where the Saudis are slugging it against the Iranians. We (Congress) have put restraints on our friends of the House of Saud. Otherwise….
    “ Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi, Khashoggi.”

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Emery. Your boy “O” gave rise to ISIS.. Was it worth it?
    He allowed them to thrive and grow. Was it worth it?
    “O” refused to stop them. Was it worth it? “O” had lawyers approve every bullet fired. Was it worth it?
    A serviceman had to take a bullet before anyone could return fire. Was it worth it?

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Tell ya what Emery, go take a day at any VA hospital. walk around the clinics where the waiting rooms are you ask them if it “was worth it”. You will piss your depends at how many answers of “yes” you will get.
    Dare ya’,, Buzzard of Broad St. Go find out for yourself.
    Come on new dude,, grow a pair and do some asking.
    I know.. It’s easier to hide behind that computer screen and take cheap shots here.

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  38. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Walt I assume you believe that our misadventure in Iraq was worth the 5000 American lives and trillions of dollars of still unpaid debt.

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  39. Cheap Irish Whiskey Avatar
    Cheap Irish Whiskey

    “So Walt I assume you……”
    And there lies the problem

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 904pm – Is it not reasonable to believe that the authorities collected DNA samples from all the hamburger left in that pile of junk that was formerly a vehicle?

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  41. George Rebane Avatar

    Paul, how about we get your take on the country’s middle-class mass migrations that I reported on above. I think that is a more immediate and serious problem, especially as it affects the emigrant states like CA. What are your thoughts?

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  42. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane @ 9:10 pm
    I dunno. Did you actually open and read my first link @ 9:04 pm? I think not. If Qasam Soleimammie is not dead, he ain’t feeling to good. Man, it’s hot down there. 🙂
    No worries. AOC thought Trump killed Sean Connery.

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  43. Walt Avatar

    No “misadventure” Emery. Your just an enemy sympathizer.
    I see you have no stomach to answer MY questions.. Nice and cowardly of you.

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes 803pm
    “Let’s do the Time Warp again!”
    Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

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  45. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 9:10 pm. Tough crowd tonight at Open Mic. Hopefully Scenes will appreciate it. Ok, moving on
    —————————
    Re Update latest census data.
    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-1-3-thoughts-on-the-latest-census-data

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “You’ve got to be kidding!!! The Saudi’s can’t even scratch out a victory in Yemen with millions of dollars of our aid and you think they can match up to Iran? You are either hopelessly uneducated in the matter or you believe that this is what Trump has up his sleeve. Unbelievable!!!
    Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 January 2020 at 08:12 PM
    Now Mr. Emery, who said anything about the Saudis marching up to Iran?
    Gotta look at it 180. It’s too keep Iran from marching on up the the Saudis. Plus, Iran has already Henning to march on up the Kingdom’s backside. Yemen is a defensive war in the Saudi’s eyes, but has resulted in way too much civilian casualties. Like, getting sloppy (both sides) in Yemen. A humanitarian crises of mega proportions. The biggest non reported crisis of the year, excluding the attack our democracy, IMHO.
    Look, it’s my larger view all we are doing is flipping from backing The Muslim Brotherhood (Iran basically and going with the Saudis (basically Sunnis) to draw our red line in the sand. Kurds? This is the one time we have to trust the Turks, like it or not. Turkey done bit off a 10-20 mile wide corridor at the tip where Syria and Kurdish territory meet (siting the Turkish historical boundary as their reason) and hopefully the Turks are not trying to rebuild the Ottoman Empire. The Turks really don’t like the Arabs. But the Turks have armed and trained 40,000 Kurds to fight Syrians or what have ya.
    Bottomline: We are not retreating. We are falling back to a better position. Moving assets around. Where the red line is, who knows at this point. Israel holds her own, cool with Egypt.

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  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul Emery | 04 January 2020 at 08:14 PM
    You and your ilk have denigrated the sacrifice of the men who fought the Civil War so maybe you are just misguided?

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    Paul Emery

    So George is this what you refer to as respecting the sovereignty of an independent nation? Apparently we are going to stay in Iraq whether they want us or not. Is this what Bush had in mind when he vowed to create a Democracy in Iraq costing us 5000 lives and trillions of dollars.
    Pompeo defends presence in Iraq as its parliament moves to oust U.S. troops
    “Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi on Sunday criticized that strike as a “political assassination,” according to The Washington Post, and urged parliament to take “urgent measures” to force the exit of American troops. His nation’s lawmakers voted Sunday in favor of a resolution that calls for ending foreign military presence in the country……
    “Shortly after Pompeo’s appearance on Fox, Iraq’s parliament formally voted to expel American service members from the country, according to the Associated Press — approving a resolution aimed at forcing the U.S. to withdraw roughly 5,000 soldiers stationed across Iraq.”
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/05/mike-pompeo-iraq-iran-troops-093961

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  49. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 923am – Did you already answer my 913pm?

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