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[I solicit nominations for the next Democrat/lamestream Big Lie re/issued before New Year's Day that will impact the largest number of the nation's light thinkers.  The same invitation is issued to our leftwingers about Republicans.  gjr]

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453 responses to “Sandbox – 26dec19”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gun Control Activist Promotes False Data To Uphold Anti-Gun Propaganda
    In light of the West Freeway Church shooting in White Settlement, Texas, gun control activists are blaming gun access and conceal-carry laws for the rise in gun deaths in the United States.
    —-
    “There are many problems with Watts’s analysis, beginning with the fact that Texas has one of the highest state populations, making statistics between states incomparable. When Texas is compared to all 50 states and Washington D.C. factoring in gun deaths per population, it falls to number 27, making Texas far from the highest rate of gun violence.
    In fact, CDC data shows that since 1990, homicidal and suicidal gun deaths per capita in Texas have fallen bellow the rest of the U.S. population.
    “The graph tweeted by Watts also fails to differentiate types of gun deaths. According to the CDC, the “firearm-related deaths” referenced in Watts’s graph is not limited to deaths by mass shooter or deaths by homicides. Causes of death included in “firearm-related injuries” includes: suicides, homicides, terrorism, accidental misfire, and legal intervention involving firearm discharge.
    For instance, in the West Freeway Church shooting that took place on Sunday, the shooter was shot and killed. This was considered a heroic act and saved many more lives, but it would be considered a “firearm-related injury” according to Watts’s data. So would a suicide, so would the death of a terrorist, so would the death of individual shot by a policeman or other legal authorities. This data simply does not take into account the entire picture or encapsulate the entire problem.
    This narrative and messaging is completely on brand with Democrats and the mainstream media. They ignore the big picture and put a laser focus on the issues they wish to highlight, no matter how out of context these issues may be.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/30/gun-control-activist-promotes-false-data-to-uphold-anti-gun-propaganda/

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  2. Hans Himmler Avatar
    Hans Himmler

    Waldo 9:46
    Your sane logic is falling on deaf ears and turned off hearing aids. This choir of old whacks have their own agenda complete with their own set of facts. “Repeat after me and follow the bouncing ball, oh, did you not get an RR music sheet”?

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    Waldo 946am – Apparently only your co-ideologue Herr Himmler understands your response. What exactly is your point about the Texas church shootings? If possible (capable?), try to use whole and grammatically passable sentences in some logical order to develop your point(s). Thanks.

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  4. fishwich Avatar
    fishwich

    ” If possible (capable?), try to use whole and grammatically passable sentences in some logical order to develop your point(s).”
    translation: “you are a stupid fuck”, but George doesn’t like and wishes to discourage ad hominem attacks on his blog so he uses (in his mind) cleverly worded retorts instead. Unfortunately, the ruminants are mostly incapable of such responses due to a severe lack of intellectual capability and resort to brilliant retaliations like “Punch is a useless hippy” instead.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Keep talking LIBS,, it’s apparent you are disappointed in the low body count by the crazed shooter. A good guy with a gun is not good news for you, and your rabid want of gun confiscation.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I once, many moons ago, was at a harbor and spotted a small dinghy among the large sailing ships larger boats. The name of it was “Sad but Fun.”
    This is both said and fun, albeit more sad than fun
    The 24 Most Absurd PC Moments of the 2010s
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/most-absurd-politically-correct-moments-last-decade/
    Perhaps the above should go under the Dec 27 Scattershots, subheading “The progressives’ full court press on dumbing down our educational system”

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Just what Herr Himmler and Dougy want to hear. Or maybe it’s where they regurgitated the puke from.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/31/columnist-terrifying-parishioners-armed-tx-church/
    “On December 31, Elivia Diaz, editorial columnist for the Republic and AZcentral.com reacted to the quick takedown of the gunman by claiming that Wilson’s defensive gun use “has turned into a PR tool by gun advocates.”
    But she is quick to stress that Wilson “wasn’t just an ordinary parishioner, as gun advocates may want you to believe.” Rather, she points to New York Times‘ reporting that noted Wilson is part of “the church’s volunteer security team member, a firearms instructor, [a] gun range owner and former reserve deputy with a local sheriff’s department.”
    Diaz then turned her attention to “the at least six other parishioners” who were armed and “who also appeared to draw their handguns at West Freeway Church of Christ.” She added, “That’s terrifying.”

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  8. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    No they wont! –
    Can the Democrats Avoid a Circular Firing Squad This Primary Season?
    December 30, 2019, 1:48 AM PST
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-avoid-circular-firing-squad-094827263.html?guccounter=1
    😉

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Now we know why.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-church-shooting-gunman-cash-requests-anger-vists-minister
    “The man behind the deadly church shooting in Texas on Sunday had visited the congregation several times before, according to the church’s senior minister, who noted the man received food but would get angry when he wasn’t given cash.”
    And WE have plenty of the same pissed off people of like mind right here.
    WE have not forgotten the gruesome attack on one of our OWN church ladies at Saint Patricks in Grass Valley not long ago,
    by the same kind of lowlife.

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  10. Waldo'sNemesis Avatar
    Waldo’sNemesis

    ,,,Sorry George,,,but when the Roundtable starts using complete sentences,,,maybe, just maybe, I will…
    I guess you did not read Bill Tozer | 31 December 2019 at 09:20 AM sound bites with links,,,
    Critique this in an unbiased manner and get back to me…What in the following Tozer headlines has anything to do with hiring or appointing armed security at church???
    Texas’s Concealed-Carry Law Prevented Mass Murder
    MINISTER AT TEXAS CHURCH: ‘THANKFUL THE GOV’T HAS ALLOWED US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT OURSELVES’
    The Texas Church shooting undid in 6 seconds what David Hogg spent the last two years trying to build.
    Texas AG Destroys Media’s Anti-Gun Narrative on CNN: ‘More People Need to Carry’ to Prevent Tragedies“

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  11. Waldo'sNemesis Avatar
    Waldo’sNemesis

    ,,,Kinnunen is a wackjob,,,
    I guess Trump has not made America that Great after all, since he allows wackos to run wild with guns,,,
    https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2016/09/13/texas-man-arrested-linden-gun-charge/90303344/

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Critique this in an unbiased manner and get back to me…What in the following Tozer headlines has anything to do with hiring or appointing armed security at church???
    Who said it had anything to do with appointing armed guards. 6 people drew their firearms. Six, not two. Now, they say 7 drew their guns.
    Could have been at a movie theater, a shopping center, or anywhere. Most of the time it’s at a connivence store when customers shoot the bad guy with a gun. One guy in Britain was forced to use narwhal tusk to fend off an attacker before the police arrived and shot the mo fro dead.
    When seconds matter and police are two minutes away. Who are you going to call? Ghost Busters? Hide behind a sheetrock wall in your home? That won’t stop bullets. Nah, run towards the killers and fill the place with smoke, guns blazing. Seconds matter at home, at work, at play. Whatca going to do when the killer takes out the armed security at the door like what was done at the Pulse Nightclub massacre?

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    This is how it works. Dems leak & spin to their media, their media write stories regurgitating what they’ve been spoon fed, then the Democrats act shocked & demand action on the planted stories. The NY Times is to be repudiated. Schumer can stick it.
    Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer is demanding that Democrats be allowed to subpoena witnesses at the impeachment trial of President Trump, citing a new report from The New York Times. Schumer said the Times report shows that top Trump administration officials have “direct knowledge….blah, blah, blah”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/schumer-calls-new-report-a-game-changer-demands-witnesses-at-impeachment-trial?

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    Waldo 1159am – US presidents don’t have the ability to unilaterally “allow” or prevent “wackos to run wild with guns”. President Trump is on record for preventing the mentally deranged from having guns, but not at the cost of abrogating the 2nd Amendment. I think most RR readers are in agreement. Only leftists believe that law abiding citizens should not have the ability to defend themselves or resist a tyrannical government with their own firearms.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Dougy and pals are suffering from terminal butthurt.
    Their sides agenda is getting beat like a redheaded stepchild…. With freckles.. From losing the impeachment game, to good guys with guns stopping mass killings.
    And the best they can come up with to challenge Trump are a couple of crazed socialists and a three time loser.
    Yup no wonder they hide behind filthy socks. It’s save face in public.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Waldo’s World @ 11:59 am
    Thank you for making a great point. Bad guys do not obey gun laws. The only ones who abide by gun laws are the good guys. Writing a 1,000 more gun laws will not stop the bad guys whom the law was intended for. Only the good guys get hurt. But, you knew that.
    Suppose tonight you are at a club having a good time and some crazy person walks in and starts shooting up the place, violating scores of laws. Heck, the crazy by law was not to possess a gun in the first place. Whatz ya going to do? Call KVMR?

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  17. fishwich Avatar
    fishwich

    “resist a tyrannical government with their own firearms.”
    translation: commit suicide for no apparent reason other than spite.

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  18. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: GeorgeR@12:32
    It would probably be simpler to refer to Waldo’sNemesis, et al., as a single name. Let’s say ‘CommaMan’, just to keep track of who or what everyone is referring to. The stupid emanating from those dainty fingers makes my head hurt, but the name changes are just confusing.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    In other new this fine day…..
    Iranian Militia Leader Leading Iraq U.S. Embassy Raid Listed as Obama White House Guest
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/12/31/iranian-militia-leader-who-led-raid-u-s-embassy-baghdad-previously-visited-obama-white-house/
    ——————-
    Ben Carson: Letting Homeless Do Whatever They Want To Do Is Not Compassionate. Help Them
    “Carson answered, “In science we like to look at the facts; we like to look at the evidence. That’s what I would strongly recommend in this case. Look at other states; we have 50 laboratories, 50 states that do things in various ways. Let’s look at the ones that are highly successful.”
    Webb said, “Secretary Carson, what’s the correlation between the politics of this, that is a component here as we look at the number of states; there’s also weather and the homeless. You would think that typically in the warmer states this is where they would all be, but in your recent HUD report on the homelessness, the facts actually lead us in a different direction.”
    Carson replied, “That is correct; some of the states with the lowest amount of homelessness are quite warm states like Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and Virginia. So that is not the case. What happens is a lot of times the policies are problematic.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-ben-carson-letting-homeless-do-whatever-they-want-to-do-is-not-compassionate-help-them
    Hmmm. Seems the only one who feels urgency on the matter is Ben Carson. Not Gov Gavin, not Nancy or Adam Shiffy, not Mad Max…all of which represent districts that have become a national embarrassment.

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  20. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT “Whatz ya going to do? Call KVMR?”
    lol. What’s the point of that? In any kind of sketchy situation, their ‘reporting’ consists of calling up Pascale.
    The sole point of KVMR is to allow fellow travelers to subject the airwaves to their favorite albums.

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  21. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    re: BillT@1:01
    The homeless issue is an interesting litmus test.
    The Right mostly thinks of them as a nuisance, and the Left wants to claw up their backs for either political or monetary benefit.
    Which is more moral? I report, and you decide.

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  22. fish Avatar
    fish

    Oh my……the usual suspects are certainly fired up today!
    Must be disturbing to some seeing the progressive intellectual edifice whittled away daily!

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    From A Progressive’s Common Ground.
    re: BillT@10:32
    Look at it this way. If nothing is a crime, the crime rate is gonna drop.
    Posted by: scenes | 31 December 2019 at 08:05 AM
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    If nothing is a crime, the crime is going to drop. Well said. Always a silver lining. If we lower standards, then everybody passes the test! From your lips to the Enlightened ears.
    Abolish the Police? A dangerous new idea is inspiring some criminal-justice activists
    https://www.city-journal.org/abolish-police-call-to-action
    Hmmm. Lord of the Flies?

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  24. Waldo’sNemesis Avatar
    Waldo’sNemesis

    ,,,,he who self identifies as a pisces,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    last chance this decade before everyone has 2020 vision!!!
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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Waldo’sNemesis | 31 December 2019 at 01:40 PM
    dugsKKKi…….some contact cleaner will help with the sticking comma key!

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  26. Walt Avatar

    Fish. His TROLL bot is stuck on stupid.

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  27. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    What do you consider a “tyrannical government”? How do you prevent a Timothy McVeigh for example from believing that he has the responsibility to blow up federal buildings in the name of trying to stop a tyrannical government.
    His actions you might recall were justified in his mind because of Ruby Ridge.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, that is the best Waldo’s World can do. I expected nothing more, nothing less. Brings nothing to the table. ‘Nemesis’ is another label for self delusion. Just not that important, except in his own eyes.

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  29. Walt Avatar

    DAMN!!,, “O” sure knew how to pick’m.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/12/31/iranian-militia-leader-who-led-raid-u-s-embassy-baghdad-previously-visited-obama-white-house/
    “O” praised the “Arab Spring”
    “O” praised the Muslim Bro. Hood.
    “O” blamed Benghazi on a video tape.

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Emery.. Bundy Ranch.. Care to tell us who won?

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Send in the Apaches.
    http://dlvr.it/RMDTzw

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  32. Waldo'sNemesis Avatar
    Waldo’sNemesis

    ,,,sure Bill,,,
    You are so predictable. A bunch of propaganda posts about gun rights while hijacking the White Settlement shooting. Typical Trumpspeak…

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  33. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    GEORGE!! PAUL HAS A QUeSTION!!!!
    BillT: “Abolish the Police? A dangerous new idea is inspiring some criminal-justice activists”
    The amusing angle to this is, of course, that the most anti-police folks are typically the people who would least be able to handle a policeless society. Dunno why Gracile-Americans think they can look out for themselves, its just one of those mysteries.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    Dougy has been drinking and smoking tonight’s party favors WAY too early.

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  35. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    BillT: “Send in the Apaches.”
    I expect it’s just a short term solution. In the long run, odds are you’ll see the last few Americans getting a helicopter ride from the US embassy in Iraq. It isn’t like Arabs (or Persians) respect diplomats. Even the Soviets knew enough to transport the German ambassador out of the country a couple of weeks after Barbarossa.
    I’m starting to think that the proper (and safer) answer for dealing with crazy third-world countries is a form of technology embargo. As long as you don’t sell them nuclear technology, airplane parts, computers, or refinery equipment, and keep most of their people bottled up, you can essentially ignore them.

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  36. Walt Avatar

    Really going sewer rat these days Dougy? Gotta live in altered realities?
    Your a prime candidate for the new RED flag law. It’s evident your off your meds again.

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  37. Fred Wells Avatar
    Fred Wells

    Lotsa sick people at SPD and Safeway. Wonder how many decrepit old folks will catch pneumonia and die because the “don’t believe” in vaccines? It must be hard administering a board populated by these climate denying science nay sayers, teetering on the edge of the abyss. George must fall asleep dreaming and scheming how to get the younger folks involved here. Anyone here under 60?

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 205pm – Bringing up McVeigh is a red herring, and has nothing to do with this topic, which we have covered several times over the years. I don’t have to define “tyrannical” at this point, and neither do you. But when our government becomes tyrannical, everyone will know. It is for that time in our common history that our Founders bequeathed us the 2nd Amendment.

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  39. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    Fred Wells @ 3:50PM
    OK, Boomer.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George
    So in your view a sizeable minority could determine that our government is tyrannical and off we go with neighborhood tanks and popguns blazing. do you discount that possibility George?

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  41. scenes Avatar
    scenes

    GEoRGE!!. PAAUL HAS A QUeSTION!!!!

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  42. Waldo'sNemesis Avatar
    Waldo’sNemesis

    ,,,America is for sale,,,learn your Chinese
    http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/02/22/china-syngenta-smithfield/

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Also George do you think you and I would agree on what is tyrannical and what if we don’t?

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well, I was going to say that in one person’s view, a tyrannical government is one that tries to regulate excessive noise and traffic from backyard parties with live music…but I won’t.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    How many bottles of that Irish stuff have you killed today Emery? Sound like your on a real bender.
    Bundy Ranch Emery,, Bundy Ranch!! “”Dirty Harry Reid’s storm troopers got run off by a bunch of America lovin rednecks!
    The FEDS lost in court TOO!!
    Yup, that would leave a nasty taste in your mouth,, not even that cheap Irish crap you drink won’t fix the taste.

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  46. Walt Avatar

    I can add to that Bill, A Tyrannical government regulates ones ability to unreasonably safely shoot a firearm on one’s own property. Rewrite the law because some city asshole shits himself at the first sound of gunfire.

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  47. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Fred Wells | 31 December 2019 at 03:50 PM
    Vaccination posts……uhh….OK Fred! You sure you’re at the right website?!

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