307 responses to “Sandbox – 15nov19”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   21 November 2019

   Boy, they are getting nuttier my the hour.
   Warren Calls Secret Trump-Zuckerberg Dinner ‘Corruption, Plain and Simple’
   “Last month, Warren responded to Zuckerberg’s decision to permit a wide range of political ads by saying that “Facebook is actively helping Trump spread lies and misinformation. Facebook already helped elect Donald Trump once. They might do it again—and profit off of it.”
   https://www.nationalreview.com/news/warren-calls-secret-trump-zuckerberg-dinner-corruption-plain-and-simple/

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   Robert Cross

   21 November 2019

   “BiBi faces the same loons of the left as has Trump”. that’s right Toad. People who try and enforce the rule of law are “loons” from the left. Does this make crooks on the right Nazis or goombas?

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3. 

   Don Bessee

   21 November 2019

   ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID! –
   Fifty-seven percent of Americans approved of President Trump’s handling of the economy, up from 53 percent in August and 50 percent in May. Approval is dramatically improved from the early days of his presidency, when just 48 percent said they approved.
   As in many other areas, Trump enjoys massive approval by members of his own party on economic issues. Ninety-three percent of Republicans say they approve of Trump’s handling of the economy, versus just 18 percent of Democrats. But Trump wins strong marks from independents, 60 percent of whom say they approve of his handling of the economy.
   https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/11/21/confidence-in-trump-economy-hits-highest-level-ever/
   😉

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4. 

   Brad C

   21 November 2019

   For your reading pleasure
   Trump down by 17 in Pew Poll. Heading to Bushdom in only a month
   Pew approve 39 disapprove 56 –
   – 17
   Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 February 2017 at 12:22 PM

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5. 

   Todd Juvinall

   21 November 2019

   Robert Cross | 21 November 2019 at 10:14 AM
   Oh you morons are all alike. You just lie about everything. No voting allowed now, you commies use other ways to circumvent the voters. You truly are an idiot and we have exposed your techniques.
   I see you are using a cap on your “name” why is that?

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6. 

   scenes

   21 November 2019

   Sure-fire collectible.
   https://i.redd.it/w0cq63668mu31.png

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7. 

   scenes

   21 November 2019

   “For your reading pleasure
   Trump down by 17 in Pew Poll. Heading to Bushdom in only a month
   Pew approve 39 disapprove 56 –
   – 17
   Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 February 2017 at 12:22 PM”
   The oldies are always the goodies. I sometimes think that the KVMR crack news desk is just a simple ELIZA program.
   To be fair, no doubt he was on the case four years before, just imagine the reported popularity drops.
   https://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_19541_approval_ratings_obama_trump_n.jpg

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8. 

   Brad C

   21 November 2019

   For your reading pleasure
   Either way the harsh reality for Trump is that he has to win Florida, N Carolina and Nevada plus, and this is the big one one state that is solidly in the Clinton camp such as Colorado, Michigan or Penn. New Hampshire wouldn’t make it because it has too few electoral votes.
   this is the only action worth looking at.
   Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 November 2016 at 10:41 AM
   RCP average as of today shows Clinton up by 6
   http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton-5633.html
   Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 November 2016 at 11:14 AM
   this is the only action worth looking at

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9. 

   George Rebane

   21 November 2019

   Now here’s a proper and useful question for Sandbox discussion – Does frequent commenter Robert Cross have even a clue as to what ‘Nazi’ means?? In these pages his fellow ideologues have demonstrated that they don’t, as has he above. What is there about such definitions that totally confound leftwingers?

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10. 

    Todd Juvinall

    21 November 2019

    Hey GeorgeR please send me your email. I lost it on my email program.
    BoobieC doesn’t know that a NAZI is his ilk not ours. We are all about less control by government and he is all about more. That is why I call him a moron.

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11. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    So much for that Gavin –
    California can’t force Donald Trump to release tax returns, state Supreme Court rules
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article237248624.html
    😉

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12. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    So much for that Gavin –
    California can’t force Donald Trump to release tax returns, state Supreme Court rules
    Sac Bee
    By Bryan Anderson
    November 21, 2019 10:10 AM
    😉

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13. 

    scenes

    21 November 2019

    “Does frequent commenter Robert Cross have even a clue as to what ‘Nazi’ means??”
    Oh, I doubt it. It’s kind of a complicated belief system added to over time by people who may have been evil, but not stupid.
    I’m attracted to my idea that when you show up merely to insult people you hate, you think up the absolutely worstest epithet you can. How you can equate ‘Nazi’ to dialing down EPA rules, shutting down some overseas military adventures, better control of a national border, and being indifferent to the plight of the underappreciated crazy men in dresses is something of a mystery to me.
    I’d say that there’s a few common backgrounds among the splittle-flying partisan folks. A lack of subject knowledge, a lack of background in managing people (employees, large companies, even children), a lack of knowledge in history aside from a cursory overview. It’s one thing to have an opinion, quite another to sound like an insane person. Truth is, everyone can spot a crazy, which makes me wonder how subtlely intertwined their DNA and general physical attributes are with their thinking.

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14. 

    scenes

    21 November 2019

    “Does frequent commenter Robert Cross have even a clue as to what ‘Nazi’ means??”
    Oh, I doubt it. It’s kind of a complicated belief system added to over time by people who may have been evil, but not stupid.
    I’m attracted to my idea that when you show up merely to insult people you hate, you think up the absolutely worstest epithet you can. How you can equate ‘Nazi’ to dialing down EPA rules, shutting down some overseas military adventures, better control of a national border, and being indifferent to the plight of the underappreciated crazy men in dresses is something of a mystery to me.
    I’d say that there’s a few common backgrounds among the splittle-flying partisan folks. A lack of subject knowledge, a lack of background in managing people (employees, large companies, even children), a lack of knowledge in history aside from a cursory overview. It’s one thing to have an opinion, quite another to sound like an insane person. Truth is, everyone can spot a crazy, which makes me wonder how subtlely intertwined their DNA and general physical attributes are with their thinking.

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15. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    Fredo is as Fredo does –
    “Let’s just play with that for a second. Mom can you hear me?” Cuomo asked, without receiving a response from his mother.
    “I’m with Dana Bash… can you just say hello? Mom? She probably can’t hear me,” Cuomo said as he struggled to hear whether or not his mother could hear him.
    Cuomo then put the device on speakerphone.
    “Mom, can you hear me?” he asked again.
    “I hear you, when you talk to me I hear you,” his mother responded.
    The “Cuomo Prime Time” namesake then turned off speakerphone and could no longer hear him mother — just as Trump explained is typically the case.
    A frustrated Cuomo then hung up the phone and crtics quickly lampooned the moment.
    “CNN’s Cuomo trying to prove you can hear a conversation on another person’s cell phone (while on speaker, mind you) is the most ill-advised thing we’ve witnessed on live TV since Marcia Clark had OJ try the gloves on,” The Hill media reporter Joe Concha wrote.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cuomo-phone-trump-mom
    😉

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16. 

    robert Cross

    21 November 2019

    I see the crickets on Netanyahu being indicted and instead the focus becomes some petty cherry picked issue of word usage. typical of ruminator rhetoric.
    Nazi definition: a person with extreme racist or authoritarian points of view

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17. 

    Todd Juvinall

    21 November 2019

    Boobic moron, not here bub. You libs are the spell checkers. Mr. Rebane is way smarter than you and knows a lot of large descriptive words. You don’t. But that is why morons get bested here.

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18. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    We told you it was unconstitutional and the justices agreed –
    Whatever authority the Legislature may have in defining how presidential primaries are to occur in this state, the challenged sections of the act exceed such authority and are unenforceable,” California Supreme Court Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye wrote in the opinion.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-supreme-court-rejects-law-requiring-trump-to-release-tax-returns-to-be-on-primary-ballot
    😉

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19. 

    George Rebane

    21 November 2019

    robertc 1257pm – then what do you call a person who believes in national socialism?

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20. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    You are wasting you time @158.
    😉

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21. 

    Robert Cross

    21 November 2019

    George 12:57 — that depends on how one defines national socialism. If the example is the former Soviet Union or Maoist China I would call it ‘socialism or communism” then those believers would be socialists or communists. If you are talking about countries like Sweden or Denmark that are capitalistic democracies with a high level of socially oriented spending then one would have to come up with something different. I don’t really know if there is a word or two that would accurately describe situations like that.

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    George Rebane

    21 November 2019

    RobertC 214pm – How about making it simple and accept the Nazi definition of national socialism, instead of the multiple new ones fabricated today by our progressive thought controllers?

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    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    @214 sounds a lot like what the definition of is is and tottaly ducks the real Nazis as in national socialist. But that’s all you can expect from them, duck the point and blather to deflect the original question.

    Thanks schiff for brains and lets not forget botox Nancy for driving the independents our way! –
    “Support for impeachment has flipped since October from 48% support with 44% opposing to now 45% opposed and 43% in support,” Emerson found. The greatest shift in opinion occurred among independent voters, who now oppose impeachment 49 percent to 34 percent. Last month, independents supported impeachment 48 percent to 39 percent.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/21/poll-shows-more-oppose-impeachment-support/
    😉

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24. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    They are not going to listen but its too true –
    “One of the things that I pride myself in is that we can’t get too sucked into the beltway and the media circles,” McCain began. “What I saw last night on the debate stage is not going to be good enough to beat him. You all are very convinced, ‘he’s crazy, he’s whatever.’ He’s always been crazy like a fox. I knew he was going to win in 2016 and I’m telling you right now, if you think this impeachment hearing and everything with Sondland and the 30,000 cast of characters — which, by the way, every day is ticking lower and lower on ratings. If you think this is enough to have it locked and loaded, you are naive!”
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/meghan-mccain-joy-behar-naive-trump-impeachment
    😉

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25. 

    Walt

    21 November 2019

    Well LIBS are the “new” national socialists… How bout THOSE apples Bobby?

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26. 

    Walt

    21 November 2019

    All those Lefties running for Prez sure fit the definition of “national socialist”. Is that not what they are trying to cram up our collective buttholes? Tell us how that ain’t so Cross Bobby….

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27. 

    Robert Cross

    21 November 2019

    George 2:22–enlighten me. I guess I don’t know the Nazi definition of national socialism. As to “new ones fabricated today by our progressive thought controllers” I will dismiss that as simply an attempt to define the issue using their own terms for the sake of winning an argument versus having a discussion, made by someone subject to the conservative thought controllers. I am sure Walt and Todd are impressed.

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28. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    I am sure the farmers and American union workers in swing states will be just thrilled to hear botox nancy’s real priorities. –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/21/nancy-pelosi-puts-impeachment-ahead-usmca-delays-vote/
    😉

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29. 

    Walt

    21 November 2019

    Sorry Bobby,, Repubs encourage one to think for themself.
    Nice try. Try it sometime.
    Need some proof? Take the LIB inquisition. No matter how many times the witnesses say “we have no proof whatsoever against Trump”,, your side(the national socialists) continue to push Trump” guilt of some imagined crime.
    You were asked yesterday to provide any proof. And what did you produce?? Nuttn’……
    Now is that thinking for yourself? Or are sticking with the Proggy line?… Because they said so……

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30. 

    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    George
    I’m sure you would consider Eisenhower and Nixon Socialists. Nixon proposed the guaranteed annual income-which the Dems defeated and Eisenhower was an outright commie in your eyes:
    “What would today’s hysterical Republicans say about the “socialist” presidency of Dwight Eisenhower? Most likely they would call him “Red Ike.” After all, during Eisenhower’s two terms between 1953 and 1960, the wealthy paid a top tax rate of 91 percent on incomes over the equivalent of $1.7 million for an individual and $3.4 million for a couple.
    That crafty pinko Eisenhower also presided over government-subsidized mortgages that helped millions of Americans purchase their first home and attend college for free. He presided over the construction of public housing and state-owned infrastructure (like highways).”
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/03/13/bring-back-eisenhower-socialism

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31. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    Clue to the pony tail of ignorance, the discussion is about national socialism aka Nazi’s.
    😉

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32. 

    Walt

    21 November 2019

    Speaking of Nazis,, They ain’t getting Trump’s tax returns.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/21/california-supreme-court-rules-state-cant-force-tr/
    Nope CA. can’t pass some bullshit law and think they are above FED law.

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33. 

    George Rebane

    21 November 2019

    RobertC 332pm – Ah yes, that I believe. Let’s do it this way so you can feel some sense of accomplishment. Why don’t you take a day or two and see if you can research the Nazis’ definition of ‘Nazi’. Since it was one of the most significant ideologies of the 20th century, it shouldn’t be too hard. But do let me know if you run into a brick wall. And it’s even more revealing that you of Left don’t consider that you have fabricated new definitions in the last 20-30 years to impose your version of Orwellian Newspeak. Count the words today that saying them would get you fired or worse. It sure as hell wasn’t the Right who imposed politically correct semantics on the nation.
    PaulE 350pm – Did you come up with all that yourself?

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34. 

    scenes

    21 November 2019

    Paul Emery: “I’m sure you would consider Eisenhower and Nixon Socialists.”
    Not particularly, at least by modern standards. To the extent that the President runs the budget, and that ‘socialism’ can be approximated by the share of the economy run by the government, I can see this:
    https://tinyurl.com/u49oxxj
    Of course, if you include the parts of the economy actually run by the government via regulation and the like, you’d probably see yet more of an increase. Trump is far more of a socialist than Truman, mostly because the baseline has changed.
    Why don’t you go bother the adults some other time.

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35. 

    scenes

    21 November 2019

    RCross: “George 2:22–enlighten me. I guess I don’t know the Nazi definition of national socialism.”
    I would just suggest dropping the word from your lexicon. ‘Nazi’ and ‘national socialism’ have little to do with the world out of their own context.

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36. 

    Bill Tozer

    21 November 2019

    Don’t forget about the Democratic Socialists. Hint: Russia, 1917. Once in power, Lenin crushed them and both parties rejected Marx and Engles in practice.

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37. 

    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    So George were Nixon and Eisenhower “Socialists” in your view? I’m interested if you apply your definition to Republicans.

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38. 

    scenes

    21 November 2019

    Oh jeez.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-fbi-official-under-criminal-investigation-for-altering-document-used-to-start-probe-into-trump-campaign

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    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    Here’s the bottom line confession as expressed by Trumps White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney
    “Jon Karl, White House correspondent for ABC News, asked Mulvaney if he understood that what he described “is a quid pro quo.”
    “It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the Democratic server happened,” said Karl.
    “We do that all the time with foreign policy,” said Mulvaney. “Get over it. There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy… That is going to happen. Elections have consequences.”
    Mulvaney has refused to testify under oath.”
    George
    What does “We do that all the time” mean to you?
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/mulvaney-lawyer-denies-mick-was-so-heavily-involved-despite-his-white-house-briefing-room-confession/

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40. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    The po’ ol’ fakenewsman needs to pay attention to the new! BREAKING!
    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) sent a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo requesting documentation on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter’s work in Ukraine on Thursday, as the week’s public impeachment inquiry hearings in the House drew to a close.
    In his two-page letter, Graham asked for a number of call transcripts, notes and communications involving Joe Biden, former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, former Secretary of State John Kerry, a former Ukrainian prosecutor and people connected to the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/lindsey-graham-senate-bidens-231047613.html

    BUSTED!
    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/21/owner-of-ukrainian-energy-firm-that-employed-hunter-biden-investigated-for-corruption/
    😉

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41. 

    Bill Tozer

    21 November 2019

    Ah, more is revealed in the Michael Flynn case.
    “That the government’s FARA case against Flynn’s business partner proved bogus should also trouble Sullivan because, according to Powell’s earlier court filings, the special counsel’s office had informed Flynn’s “counsel in the summer of 2017 that it was going to indict the FARA case then, had obtained authorization to target Michael Flynn, Jr.—who had a newborn—and had seized all his electronic devices.”
    The threat was clear: Plead guilty and cooperate or we will prosecute your son. And given Judge Trenga’s conclusion in the Rafiekian case that there was no evidence of a FARA crime, there is an added postscript: We will prosecute your son on bogus charges.
    The threat also wasn’t a one off: After Powell took over representation of Flynn, federal prosecutors attempted to force Flynn to testify at Rafiekian’s trial that Flynn had knowingly made false statements in the FARA filings—something Flynn denies. When Flynn refused to lie, federal prosecutors abruptly added Michael Flynn Jr. to the witness list for the Rafiekian trial, but then never called him to testify.
    The government, according to Powell, also had an FBI agent contact Flynn Jr. directly, even though the younger Flynn was represented by counsel. These maneuvers corroborate the prosecutors’ earlier use of Flynn Jr. as a pawn to pressure his father to plead guilty.
    …..
    That additional time has indeed clarified many things and exposed a well-constructed plot to ambush Flynn, quiz him on a telephone call the inquisitors already knew the content of, and later make material changes to the 302 interview summaries to establish a basis for criminal charges. Judge Sullivan will be considering those new revelations, and not merely Flynn’s previous statements, when he rules on the currently pending motions and those to come.“
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/20/all-eyes-on-judge-in-michael-flynn-case-after-weeks-of-shocking-developments/

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42. 

    George Rebane

    21 November 2019

    PaulE 509pm – Why not take it at face value. I recall debates we had in the 60s and 70s that we were giving away a lot of money and arms, and getting nothing or not enough in return. Presidents and congress critters then promised to do better. But such international horse trading has always been the case forever. I’m surprised that the today’s Dems pretend to be so cynically naive as not to know that. How did you take Mulvaney’s statement?

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43. 

    Bill Tozer

    21 November 2019

    Ah, the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act.
    When President Dwight D. Eisenhower took office in January 1953, however, the states had only completed 6,500 miles of the system improvements. Eisenhower had first realized the value of good highways in 1919, when he participated in the U.S. Army’s first transcontinental motor convoy from Washington, DC, to San Francisco. Again, during World War II, Eisenhower saw the German advantage that resulted from their autobahn highway network, and he also noted the enhanced mobility of the Allies, on those same highways, when they fought their way into Germany. These experiences significantly shaped Eisenhower’s views on highways and their role in national defense. During his State of the Union Address on January 7, 1954, Eisenhower made it clear that he was ready to turn his attention to the nation’s highway problems. He considered it important to “protect the vital interest of every citizen in a safe and adequate highway system.”

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44. 

    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    I take it at face value George. Mulvaney admitted it was a quid pro quo. Jon Karl stated to Mulvaney “It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the Democratic server happened,” Mulvaney Replied ” “We do that all the time with foreign policy,Get over it.”

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45. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    WOW what an astonishingly ignorant statement @ 708. Didn’t even listen to the schiff for brains storm. 5 other countries have had theirs held up in the same way with Lebanon still frozen, what a maroon!

    Take a look at the picture, that’s a look we have seen hereabouts for years, especially at the fair in the last few year. If she were yelling with the spit flying she would look just like Linda Campbell! LOL –
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-woman-wearing-fur-is-stabbed-by-animal-rights-activist-in-church-police-say
    😉

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46. 

    Walt

    21 November 2019

    Yet no evidence Emery. And he got ripped apart like an onion.
    “opinion” is not evidence. Do you understand that concept?

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47. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    Those mutha mullahs are feeling the heat in more ways than one and are feeling the bite of real sanctions. They should have banked 0’s bucks instead of spreading war across the region. Looks like their Karma bank is overdrawn. –
    Ali Saeedi, a hardline Iranian cleric close to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, admitted on Wednesday that top officials were surprised by the intensity of protests against the recent gasoline tax hike.
    Radio Farda reported Saeedi said Ayatollah Khamenei “has accepted full responsibility for the consequences of the plan to increase the price of gasoline in Iran,” but then he proceeded to blame everything on the secular wing of Iran’s government headed by President Hassan Rouhani
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/11/21/hardline-cleric-admits-intensity-protests-iran-surprised-officials/
    😉

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48. 

    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    Gosh and Golly Don Schiff had nothing to do with it. That was a direct quote from Mulveney as a response to Jon Karl. Explain to me what Schiff had to do with that exchange.
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/mulvaney-lawyer-denies-mick-was-so-heavily-involved-despite-his-white-house-briefing-room-confession/

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49. 

    Don Bessee

    21 November 2019

    The Popes speech writer is way too woak and has a self hating dem kind of vibe going on –
    It did not take long for the French themselves to cry foul, reproaching the pontiff both for besmirching one of their most beloved pieces of epic literature and for using a fictional narrative to illustrate a point about how Christians supposedly behave.
    “La Chanson de Roland is obviously not a historical chronicle of events, but an epic poem, a chanson de geste, the oldest and most complete manuscript, written in Anglo-Norman, and dates back to the early twelfth century, four centuries after the facts it is supposed to recount,” wrote Vini Ganimara Thursday for the French Catholic news site Riposte Catholique.
    The Song of Roland was indeed inspired in part by a historical event, namely Charlemagne’s expedition to Spain in 778, Ganimara observes, but this expedition to Spain was actually undertaken at the request of several Muslim governors of Spain, in rebellion against the Emir of Cordova.
    Moreover, the invasion was unsuccessful, and is recounted as such in the poem.
    “The memory of Pope Francis evoking the victory of the Franks over Muslims is therefore confused, because the expedition was not a victory,” Ganimara observes.
    “The fictitious case of the forced baptism of Muslims supposedly defeated after the capture of Zaragoza — which did not take place — is not historical, but is a pure imagination of the poet,” he adds, noting that contrary to the pope’s account, there is not even a Christian holding a sword in the original work.
    https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/11/21/pope-francis-cites-fictional-french-epic-to-prove-christians-are-violent/
    😉

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50. 

    Paul Emery

    21 November 2019

    Here’s another one George:
    “And while Trump and his allies have staunchly denied that the president and his private attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought a “quid pro quo” to get Ukraine to investigate Democrats in exchange for a White House meeting, Sondland said he believed it was exactly that.”
    “Was there a quid pro quo?” he asked near the start of the seven-hour hearing. “The answer is yes.”
    Soundland is a Trump appointee who contributed a million dollars to Trumps campaign. Hardly a never Trumper,
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-20/sondland-says-he-followed-the-presidents-orders-in-ukraine

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