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Sandbox – 12sep19

12 September 2019

[Back from our travels, and lots of insights about what's going on in the minds of many Europeans. gjr]

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359 responses to “Sandbox – 12sep19”

Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

“And just what is the evidence that Trump has “funneled” hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into his businesses while president?”
-George Rebane
Oh, maybe little things like housing military and hosting state sponsored (tax funded) events in his own resorts? Slipped yer mind I guess.

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Todd Juvinall

12 September 2019

Ig I recall people pay for their rooms. Do you have links Jiggy for your allegations?

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Scott O

12 September 2019

Jiggles – 7:25: So, when Obama was pres the govt just got all the rooms and resorts for free?
Love how the lefties pretend to be so concerned about money when Trump takes office.
And –
Welcome back, George!

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Walt

12 September 2019

Housing the military? Good luck with calling a night layover “housing” jigged for brains. You know jigged how the military works. Never does a military fight take the same route home twice. The crew didn’t route the flight, flight ops did. Is Trump “flight ops”? You have proof he made a phone call?
When I was in Ireland, there is a Trump resort there too.
I would have got the same “perks”. But just too far outside our trip route.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337
Better call for an investigation of why Delta flew into Beale
not long ago. Trump may have been playing favorites.

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Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

Todd- You are so bright. “people pay for their rooms”. Really? When was the last time any government official paid for his room while on government business? And when the taxpayers pay for a government official at Trumplandia, the profit goes to . . . see if you can finish the sentence.

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Walt

12 September 2019

LOL Babs,, Your BOY “O” holds the record for golfing expenditures. How soon you Proggys forget.

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Walt

12 September 2019

Speaking of “O”,, the ECO bastards lose another one.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/12/trump-epa-clean-water-regulation-rollback/
“The Trump administration is officially rolling back an Obama-era environmental rule that threatened farmers and other landowners with significant fines or jail time if they failed to comply with onerous regulations on waterways.”
One more thing the still LIB infested EPA, won’t be able to screw people over with. Especially those trying to create defendable space from fire around their property.

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Oh, that silly Roberta Maddow.
“Here, in Maddow’s telling, is the rub: The United States Air Force refueled one of their C-17 aircrafts at Prestwick Airport on a return flight from Kuwait this spring. Maddow insists that it would have been “much cheaper” to fuel up at a military base — a supposed fact that heightened her alarm about the propriety of the stop in the first place. If this seemingly strange choice in fuel station weren’t enough, the Air Force subsequently stayed overnight at the Trump-owned Turnberry Resort. Both of these actions, said Maddow, were highly unusual and enough to arouse suspicion of malfeasance. Indeed, it was proof that the “U.S. military is in on it now,” the “it” being the Trump administration’s “corruption” and violation of the emoluments clause. The event might even reveal endemic corruption in the armed forces and could serve as a broader indictment of “the U.S. military and its integrity.”
I’m glad I sat down.
“The Air Force replied to the Politico report by challenging several key assertions made by both Maddow and Politico. First, the Prestwick Airport was independently contracted by the Department of Defense, and both parties agreed to terms that would allow the department to refuel at “standardized prices” — precisely the going rate that Maddow scoffed would be available only at a military base. Next, the Air Force’s use of the airport adjacent to the Trump hotel does not appear to be a novel phenomenon meant, as the Politico article speculates, to “line the president’s pockets.” Instead, well before the president’s inauguration, records show that the Air Force had used the small airport 95 times in 2015 and 145 times in 2016. While the number of stops there has since increased — the Air Force reports stopping in Prestwick 259 times through August of this 2019 — it is not as though the location was unknown to the Air Force or the Department of Defense until the president roped them into a secretive money-funneling gambit. And there are strategic features that make the otherwise obscure airport in Prestwick a preferable location for refueling. From the Air Force’s statement:
“Additionally, Air Mobility Command [AMC] issued a flight directive to mobility crews in June 2017 designed to increase efficiencies by standardizing routing locations, with Prestwick being among the top five locations recommended for reasons such as more favorable weather than nearby Shannon Airport, and less aircraft parking congestion than locations on the European continent that typically support AMC’s high priority airlift missions. By considering factors like these to save costs and increase operational efficiencies, Air Operations Center contingency planners have increasingly turned to Prestwick to develop route plans for lower priority contingency needs such as training, deploy/redeploy and Guard airlift missions.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/rachel-maddow-story-questions-air-force-integrity/

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

TThe Secret Service paid former Vice President Joe Biden $171,600 in rent for a guest home on his property while they were protecting him, according to purchasing orders.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/25/joe-biden-six-figures-secret-service/
“Landlord Joe Biden will keep collecting rent checks from the agency that protects his life thanks to another contract extension that allows Secret Service agents to continue staying in a cottage on his Delaware property.
“The latest extension, signed on May 6, boosts the overall value of the contract to more than $100,000 since the agency first started paying Mr. Biden a few years ago.
“The arrangement, first reported by The Washington Times, puts Mr. Biden in the unusual position of being both a sitting vice president and a vendor for the federal government at the same time.”
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/14/secret-service-signs-new-deal-landlord-joe-biden/

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Walt

12 September 2019

And just as fast, the pet Proggys go silent. DAMN those pesky facts.

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MM

12 September 2019

,,,yes Bill,,,keep talking about fuel…Meanwhile,,,googling Prestwick Intl. and hotels nearby, there are at least 10 hotels in Prestwick village under $100 a night including a 3 star hotel on the water within 2 miles of the airport. TrumpWorld Turnberry is 20 miles away and $319 a night.
,,,Ethically challenged much Mr. Bill??? Trumpworld properties should avoid trying to make money off the taxpayers at least until he is out of office in a year or so…

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George Rebane

12 September 2019

RobertC – I deleted your 841am. I asked a civil question for which you provided no answer, and responded with an ad hominem. You may get away with that with other commenters, but keep that up with me and we’re going to miss you.

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George Rebane

12 September 2019

Re Trump “funneling” funds into his own pocket, my 629am comment in the last Sandbox included – ‘And just what is the evidence that Trump has “funneled” hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into his businesses while president? And if there were a shred of evidence to support that, Team Nadler, with Nancy waving pom-poms, would have the President impeached on the emoluments clause in a heartbeat. Even a Republican Senate would have a hard time not convicting him in that case. You should forward your evidence to the House Judiciary Committee.’
I would still like to read a reasoned response to this from our worked up leftwingers. And Jig’s 725am is a laughable attempt to provide evidence by just repeating a form of the original allegation as being proof of the president’s graft.

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MM

12 September 2019

yes Mr. Bill,,,a whopping $2,200 a month rent! for the SS to stay close to Biden,,,duh,,,so they can protect him!!!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8674228/Joe-Biden-charging-US-Secret-Service-thousands-to-rent-cottage-to-protect-him.html

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MM

12 September 2019

,,,George,,,not sure about the worked up leftwingers but Tozer appears to be especially triggered this morning!!!

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Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

Rebane 9:49
I’ll forgive your blind devotion to Dear Leader on jet lag. You make yourself look silly by denying common knowledge and pretending the allegations that Trump has profited bigly at our expense are liberal lies.
https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/trump-properties

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

BM @ 9:39 am.
Yep, at least when VP Pence went there, his crew got a discount at $137/night for nicer digs. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the DOD. Or, see Dr. Rebane’s 9:49 am. I am sure the House committees are on it at this very second. Even you can file an ethics complaint. Demand your Congressperson to investigate. He/him/she/her may share you blind hatred. :).
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Boy, this is sad. My Gal pretending she is POTUS. With all the posters here who could not bring themselves to ever vote for Hillary (Punchy, Gregory, Fish, Scott O and more), one has to look high and low on this site for one single Hillary voter. Sad.
Hillary Clinton Pretends To Be President At Venice Art Installation
https://www.dailywire.com/news/51681/hillary-clinton-pretends-be-president-venice-art-emily-zanotti?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mattwalsh

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Walt

12 September 2019

Googling room rates? LOL!!!!! Somehow you want them to stay at the likes of Motel 6.

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Gregory

12 September 2019

Ahead of tonight’s slugfest, the following lightly edited observation…
“Inside every [left-]liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.” – David Horowitz

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Walt

12 September 2019

It’s evident NONE of the Proggys here have set foot in Scotland or the UK for that matter to see what local “motel” accommodations actually are. Believe me. They are not anything like what you’re used to here. Many make Super8 look great.
Considering the ones here who are doing the bitching, and military haters to begin with, that’s exactly the kinds of places they would want them to lay over.

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Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

Wally-
When I worked for CDF during college, Super 8 is exactly where we stayed much of the time.
And yes, I have been to the UK and no, I don’t have any grudges against our military. I defy you to find where I have implied that. On the unemployment dole still? Did you get turned down from the goose shit raking gig for the rich Republicans at Wildwood?

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Walt @ 0:14 am.
Motel 6? Do they have conference rooms? Nah, there are better options.
https://vimeo.com/51166685
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dOHEw8izno

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Walt

12 September 2019

Yup, a lowly Cal state employee. That’s exactly where you should have stayed. A far cry from a pilot who worked real hard to get to where he is.
“I don’t have any grudges against our military. I defy you to find where I have implied that”
Simple… Your a LIBERAL.

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George Rebane

12 September 2019

Jig 1007am – as unseemly as it may appear to you and yours, what law is Trump violating and why isn’t Nadler all over him for that like ugly on a bear’s ass?

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Did California just kill the Gig Economy?
https://fee.org/articles/did-california-just-kill-the-gig-economy/

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George Rebane

12 September 2019

BillT 1117am – Mr Tozer, your good question should be under my most recent post on the topic. Thanks.

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Dr. Rebane
Reposting right now. You are welcome.

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Don Bessee

12 September 2019

Its the economy stupid! –
In 2018, U.S. median household income hit its highest level in nearly two decades, reaching $63,200, with the median income for women, Hispanics, and Asian Americans all reaching new record highs. Between 2017 and 2018, the real median earnings of all workers rose by 3.4 percent to $40,200, with median family income rising to an impressive $80,700. These income gains are in addition to the higher take-home pay Americans received thanks to tax cuts.
In addition, the poverty rate fell last year to 11.8 percent, its lowest level since 2001, with a record low among blacks and Hispanics. In President Trump’s first two years in office, nearly 2.5 million people were lifted out of poverty, including nearly 1 million American children. In contrast, the number of Americans in poverty increased by nearly 800,000 under Obama.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/09/12/exclusive-ortiz-new-census-data-further-destroys-democrats-economic-claims/
😉

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Walt

12 September 2019

Thanks jiggered one,, (love it when erogance gets the better of a TROLL) It’s time to go back to who you really are. The jiggered “jon”. Yes, Dear “jon”. The supposed “dozer dude”(or claimed to be)of CDF.
Pulling a state pension yet? Or were you the one caught up in that CDF sex scandal that was all over the news some years back?

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Didn’t Kamala Harris start this probe? Judge rejects prosecution’s request for gag order.
“Everything that Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation have been trying to do is an attempt to shut down and silence anyone who knows about their scheme to sell baby parts and organs for profit,” said Daleiden’s lead counsel Peter Breen. “Their heinous practices have involved exterminating babies born alive and manipulating abortion techniques without informing the women they’ve victimized. These bad players – the abortion industry movers and shakers – are doing terrible things for money.”
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/12/judge-denies-gag-order-request-aimed-at-silencing-witnesses-who-trafficked-baby-body-parts/
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“Daleiden and Merritt are the first undercover journalists to be criminally prosecuted in the history of the state of California, noted Liberty Counsel, which represents Merritt.
“The journalists were slapped with 15 felony charges by the office of the California Attorney General (AG), including its past AG, current U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris, and her successor, Xavier Becerra. Harris received thousands of dollars in campaign donations from Planned Parenthood and, subsequently, she and her office raided Daleiden’s home and seized his personal property, including his laptop, instead of prosecuting the abortion giant.
“Liberty Counsel reported this week that, while, in 2015, biomedical company StemExpress publicly denied the authenticity of the CMP videos, while under oath the company’s founder and CEO, known as “Doe 12,” testified the documents shown in the CMP videos are authentic StemExpress documents….
“The following day, however, “Doe 9” admitted in court that the video was accurate and that her discussions with the video journalists had not been edited or altered.
“Additionally, witness “Doe 7,” a non-physician who performed surgical abortions for Planned Parenthood Northern California, had also testified that she regularly provided tissue from babies she aborted at Planned Parenthood, as CMP reported.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/12/abortion-industry-admits-trafficking-aborted-baby-body-parts-in-planned-parenthood-video-journalists-criminal-hearing/?

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Walt

12 September 2019

Thde LIBS HERO gets the perp walk!! You can start crying now LIBS,, get that “go fund me” page up and running for his defence. Give till it hurts.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-attorney-recommends-proceeding-with-charges-against-mccabe-as-doj-rejects-last-ditch-appeal
“U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu has recommended moving forward with charges against Andrew McCabe, Fox News has learned, as the Justice Department rejects a last-ditch appeal from the former top FBI official.
McCabe — the former deputy and acting director of the FBI — appealed the decision of the U.S. attorney for Washington all the way up to Jeffrey Rosen, the deputy attorney general, but he rejected that request, according to a person familiar with the situation.”
So who is he going to take with him to the BIG house?
There is also the chance of another case of Arkincide soon to play out. Don’t want the rat talking.

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Who is this for? The penguin chick or for the SWJs?
“When confronted with that reality, zookeeper Charlotte Barcas was at a loss as to explain exactly how the penguin, deemed genderless by humans, would even know it wasn’t supposed to operate as either a girl or boy penguin.
“Asked why they were raising the chick gender neutral, Barcas replied, “What we wanted to do with this chick was give guests an opportunity to meet that individual and learn about its personality without assigning it any sort of preconceived sort of gender roles.”
“Sure, sure. And how does she plan to make sure the penguin knows it’s not supposed to conform to constricting, oppressive, outdated penguin gender roles? Well, she has no idea.
“It’s a really sort of difficult subject to navigate specifically,” Barcas said.
Sure.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/51689/watch-london-zookeepers-will-raise-genderless-emily-zanotti?
Well, there a new exhibit in Chicago that features a genderless T Rex, so I reckon MSNBC is ahead of the curve to feature it’s genderless top host.

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Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

Wally?? I cut hand line for two seasons. Honest summer job. My tools were Polaski, shovel, McRake, and leather gloves saving your ass. Of course you think we were all pieces of shit because we worked for the state. Funny thing is there are never enough of us when your property is on the line. Typical Republican.

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Walt

12 September 2019

BFD jiggered one Two seasons? I have you beat by six.
So sit on this 🖕 and spin. 8 years as a firefighter right here in PV. Not just a summer warrior. Funny how you paid guys think you’re something special.

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fish

12 September 2019

Wally?? I cut hand line for two seasons. Honest summer job. My tools were Polaski, shovel, McRake, and leather gloves saving your ass.
Then these are terms used in a kitchen or bakery?
…cutting hand line.
The square patterns cut in sheet cake?
My tools were Polaski, shovel, McRake, and leather gloves saving your ass……
Those must have been some impressive cakes jeffy to require those tools! Big enough for a woman to jump out of I’d guess.
Leather gloves in a bakery….who knew?

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Walt

12 September 2019

Now be specific the jiggered “jon”,,, actually CDF? or CYA camp inmate crew?? THEY are the cutters of firelines.

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Daily Quotes
Insight: “Freedom can’t be kept for nothing. If you set a high value on liberty, you must set a low value on everything else.” —Roman philosopher Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Upright: “I don’t think there’s any evidence [that Russia stole the 2016 election]. And, you know, I really don’t think that’s a good conversation to have. I think that really does devalue the people in Wisconsin and Michigan and others who decided to vote for President Trump. Whether you like this president or not, whether you believe that he should have been president or not, let’s give the credit to the Americans who went out and voted for somebody who they thought would bring change.” —Condoleezza Rice
Friendly fire: “What does it say that Fox News is nicer to me than the lefties are? What does it say that the conservatives are nicer to me?” —Marianne Williamson
Belly laugh of the week: “We do not [discriminate].” —Facebook executive Monika Bickert’s regarding anti-conservative prejudice
The BIG lie: “Unlike Donald Trump, I know what it’s like to be in a family that lives paycheck to paycheck.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders
Non compos mentis: “Sometimes, life comes along and imitates art instead of the other way around. And as I was re-writing this book, all at once I find out we’re locking little kids up in cages on the border and I’m thinking to myself, ‘This is like my book.’” —Stephen King
Non sequitur: “The president is right to take action on e-cigarettes. Six people have died, and that is a tragedy. We need to know more about all of this, but we cannot ignore what we know about other threats to the public as well. 38 people died in mass shootings in this country just last month. What about them?” —CNN’s Don Lemon
Braying jackass: “[Trump] now wants to ban [flavored e-cigarettes] to protect children from being harmed or killed. And I think that’s good. I’m fine with it. You know what else harms and kills children? Assault rifles do. … Maybe if the NRA starts flavoring those you’ll ban them too.” —Jimmy Kimmel
And last… “The few deaths from vaping are almost all tied to unlicensed, blackmarket products. A ban on vaping will only drive more people towards precisely the kind of vaping that’s causing the problem in the first place. The government is once again solving a problem by creating one.” —Matt Walsh

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Gregory @ 10:16 am
“Ahead of tonight’s slugfest, the following lightly edited observation…”
“Inside every [left-]liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.” – David Horowitz
Hmm. What to expect tonight at the Democrat Socialists Debate in Houston. I expect it to be boring. Boring in the sense that they will all be spouting the same thing with little variety. Medicaid for all, Green New Deal, ban this, ban that, ban everything, Orange Man Bad, free college for everyone, free this free that. Free the children. Maybe Yang will come up with moving people to higher ground or banning circumcism again or maybe another discussion of busing. Nah, probably not. Boring. I do like the idea of free abortions for men who identify as women. That should not cost much.
The race to the Left continues unabated. I always felt (with feeeelings) that the Fakenews is way more to the Left than where their Dem party arm is and that the candidates tonight are way more left than where the average Joe Bag of Donuts Democrat voter is.
“Bill Maher Condemns Far Left as ‘Cancer’ on Democratic Party”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2019/09/12/bill-maher-condemns-far-left-cancer-democratic-party

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Robert Cross

12 September 2019

In the “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch my back” category; President Donald Trump’s nominee to head the U.S. Air Force told senators at her confirmation hearing Thursday she wouldn’t specifically ban members of the military branch from spending taxpayer funds at the president’s properties. Barbara Barrett refused to tell the Senate Armed Services Committee whether she thinks it is inappropriate for Air Force personnel to spend government funds at Trump-owned businesses. Staff at the Glasgow Prestwick Airport reserved 208 nights for U.S. aircrews last year, up from 116 the previous year, during refueling layovers. The number of overnight stays the first eight months of this year is already at 220. Prestwick and trump’s Turnberry resort were both losing money prior to trump’s election. Now both are in the black with Prestwick earning $21 million from US gov’t contracts alone. Apparently, The airport routinely books government travelers into Turnberrry.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/prestwick-airport-donald-trump-turnberry-golf-resort-military-stays_n_5d76c9bee4b07521023163b5
So the question is; the president’s nominee to head up the Air Force either doesn’t seem to think funneling tax payer dollars into trump’s pocket is unethical or a conflict of interest. OR
She knows it is but won’t say so for fear of getting fired before she even starts..just like all the rest of the trump lackeys.
Which one do you all think is closest to the truth?

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fish

12 September 2019

Posted by: Roberta Cross | 12 September 2019 at 04:32 PM
Which one do you all think is closest to the truth?
That you dolts should have nominated someone other than Hillary Clinton!

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Don Bessee

12 September 2019

Looks like the troll missed the news that a local contractor booked Trump resort as it had the lowest military rate, 30 bucks a night lower than the next lowest in the region. As to another 100 nights, if you have a crew of 7 stay for two or 3 days that’s 21 nights so it does not show a hundred flights. But what can you expect from trolls?
😉

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jon doxer

12 September 2019

Crickets. Not a single comment. Silence speaks volumes. You own this. You can pretend no one takes notice, but we do and we don’t forget.

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Jig Wiggly

12 September 2019

Walt 2:08
You were a volunteer at a podunk fire department that had to take second hand gear from real fire departments. We saw more fire (and had better training) in one month than you had in 8 years. Penn Valley volunteer, pumper bunny at that. What a joke. Are your engines red?

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Don Bessee

12 September 2019

Death by device, being too connected can have a price. –
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/12/coast-guard-warns-charging-phone-batteries-amid-california-boat-fire/2297964001/
😉

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Crickets? Yo mean like the crickets surrounding anti-American Linda Sarsour endorsing Bernie Sanders?
Crickets? Like Blasey Ford’s daddy issues?
“Privately, however, it appears the Blasey family had significant doubts about what Ford was trying to accomplish by coming forward and making unsubstantiated allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. Within days of Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the Supreme Court, a fascinating encounter took place. Brett Kavanaugh’s father was approached by Ford’s father at the golf club where they are both members.
“Ralph Blasey, Ford’s father, went out of his way to offer to Ed Kavanaugh his support of Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the Supreme Court, according to multiple people familiar with the conversation that took place at Burning Tree Club in Bethesda, Maryland. “I’m glad Brett was confirmed,” Ralph Blasey told Ed Kavanaugh, shaking his hand. Blasey added that the ordeal had been tough for both families.”
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/12/christine-blasey-fords-father-supported-brett-kavanaughs-confirmation/
To which Jezebel responded:
“Christine Blasey-Ford’s father in more interested in playing golf than supporting his daughter”, roflmao.

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fish

12 September 2019

You were a volunteer at a podunk fire department that had to take second hand gear from real fire departments. We saw more fire (and had better training) in one month than you had in 8 years.
Walt….. why do you bother? It’s Nevada City Fats…..he’s lying!

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MM

12 September 2019

,,,Jig,,,Wally lives in his own World

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Don Bessee

12 September 2019

More from the fakenews front –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/12/senior-u-s-official-politico-report-on-israeli-spying-in-d-c-completely-false/
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George Rebane

12 September 2019

johnd 455pm – this new sackhead thinks we can read his mind. On what topic is he claiming “crickets”?

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Bill Tozer

12 September 2019

Two good articles from Powerline.
First, tonight’s 3 hour showdown in Houston. That might be a wee bit too long for Slow Sleepy Sloppy Joe….but anyway, back to the article.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/showdown-in-houston.php
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Second, another look at NC-9. We know what Punchy thinks (bad omen for Republicans in 2020) and we know it was supposed to a bellwether (a wether is a castigated goat or sheep), and some say it means nothing, some say it means everything, and some say it’s in-between. A closer look and closer breakdown. Interesting.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/the-nc-9-special-election-and-racial-politics.php

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