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Sandbox – 5sep19

[Apologies for the delay in providing new sand.  You all seem to have covered every imaginable issue in the last Sandbox.  And there is more to be said about it all.  Haven’t heard of more dropouts in the derby beyond Gillibrand – we’ll update scores when I get home.  Sally forth!  gjr]

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  1. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: George Rebane | 07 September 2019 at 08:06 AM
    I could cite science up your ying yang and it would not have any effect at all. You and many others here are simply impervious to science that does not conform to your world view.
    I do however find it ironic George that you cite as an example of mob mania the braying of “Amen.” You don’t hear me braying Amen my friend, that is in your house.

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  2. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Gotta do better Dougy, That’s nothing new. They are just saying “shoot here first”, when another crazed Progressive twists off.
    You always disappear when stories of good guys with guns is posted, or people protecting themselves with guns.
    But do post some proof of your “Wyatt Earp” crap. Haven’t seen anything of anyone gunning down a lowlife just walking down the street.

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  3. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: MM | 07 September 2019 at 08:41 AM
    What happened to “video perv” dugsKKKi. A little to “pants around your ankles” in the Del Oro?

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  4. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    AHH Frischy… So AGW IS your religion. A manufactured one at that. And the Mann hockey stick is your shepherd’s crook.
    Love all that “adjusted” data that’s in your “bible” that you pray too.

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  5. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Hey Frischy,, forget this? The “missing” sea ice, found them
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/30/the-antarctic-research-fiasco-would-you-could-you-in-a-boat/
    Since ECO nuts didn’t learn the first time,,
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/27/another-ship-of-fools-gets-stuck-in-arctic-ice-needs-rescue/
    Who knows.. You may have to go on the “Donner diet” this coming winter.

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  6. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Frisch@06:47 AM
    And, Mother Nature is going to make fools of your and your climate change cult.
    According to the ice cores, the planet has been cooling for the last 10,000 years and our current warming in an anomalous spike similar to previous warming spikes, the Minoan, Roman, and Medieval Warming periods. Those warming spikes collapsed into long periods of cold temperatures, and so will the current warming if it has not already started. Details here:
    https://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2019/09/07/mother-natures-cooling/

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  7. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Bumped: Hey Scott, Check this out no significant global warming in Idaho.
    https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/publications/IdahoClimatePB.pdf
    Conclusion Weather and climate data show climate change has had a minimal impact in Idaho, and to the extent, modest climate changes have occurred, the bulk of the impacts appear to have been beneficial. Even if Idaho were showing signs of substantial climate change and/or negative climate change impacts, Idaho has already dramatically curtailed its carbon dioxide emissions, which means state government action to curtail carbon dioxide emissions or otherwise address climate change would have extremely minimal climate impact.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Frisch threatening to cite science “up your yin yang” reminds me of Jar Jar Binks protesting that he can speak as evidence of his being intelligent.
    Steve, the science disproving AGW was already in ten years ago; but the science that is apparently coming down the pike now should be discoverable with eyes wide shut… it’s hard to ignore shorter growing seasons… and it did take starving farmers in the USSR and China leading to hungry cityfolk to turn the tide against Lysenko.
    http://spaceweather.com/images2019/04sep19/TCI_Daily_NO_Power_Percentiles.png
    The scientists who projected Cycle 25 being half the strength of 24 have projected 25 will be smaller still leading to near zero for 26 and 27. Cue Der Bingle:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QLn7gM-hY
    BTW he was singing about the color of snow, not the only skin color at Sierra Business Council staff parties.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    StevenF 846am – Your citations are most welcome; and I wager that they have ALL been addressed by the skeptics. But that has not been reciprocated. What I wonder about is why no prominent proponent of preventable manmade global warming is willing to have a debate on the topic in a prominent public forum with a knowledgeable skeptic.
    And as an aside, why do the true believers refuse to acknowledge substantiated skepticism – their uniform response (including yours) has always been to paint the skeptic as a flat earth Neanderthal? That seems to be the only way you folks can maintain your narrative; a reasoned and reasonable debate is out of the question.

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  10. J.Barron Avatar
    J.Barron

    Steve-
    Anyone can “prove” anything they want simply by using their preferred search words on Google. George, Russ, Scott, etc cherry pick low and rather rare fruit. . . just like Reinette.

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  11. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    jigged Barron,, “FIRE,,Ready AIM!!” Now read what you just posted… Yet your side can’t prove shit using the same.
    Hell.. You nuts can’t even come up with a good excuse why your wrong.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    JBarron 946am – Pray from what school did you learn that little shibboleth of those who cannot prove anything?

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  13. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Creepy grampa joe is following the herd now –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/07/joe-biden-promises-environmentalist-look-into-my-eyes-i-guarantee-you-we-are-going-to-end-fossil-fuel/
    😉

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  14. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    GR 956am
    I think that would be the U of San Francisco B-school.
    This sort of “proof” is just words from people that the writer thinks sound real smart, cut and pasted.
    Wikipedia is the new Encyclopedia Britannica, so you don’t have to go to the library to crib from them anymore, paying 10 cents per page for a Xerox copy.

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  15. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Where is the ECO warriors go? Since they know it all, just what’s going to replace fossil fuel?
    Come on,, you can do it.(well,,,, maybe not)
    Not much news about the pond scum alternative, That blue -green algae is pretty good at killing dogs.
    And just what’s going to fuel up all the electric cars, trucks and heavy machinery?
    So tell us O wise ones.. what’s at the other end of that plug?
    Maybe all the LIBs blowing together morning, noon and night to keep the windmills turning? You guys are full enough of
    hot air just to make that happen.

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  16. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    This is not the forum for a debate on climate change.
    First and foremost, it is moderated by George, who enforces no standards for the nature of the rhetoric.
    Second, it is interspersed with the comments of people like Todd and Walt, who add nothing to any scholarly exploration of the issues and divert attention from the thesis.
    Third, there is no impartial ‘jury’ to determine the efficacy of the cases being made.
    Finally, there is no format for determining the quality, peer review status, or aggregate scientific support for the studies or data being cited–such information should be supported by citations of the sources and an examination of the relative reliability of the sources.
    On several occasions I have offered to debate this issue in a public forum, under clear rules of debate, with an impartial or at least outside audience. That offer has consistently been declined.
    So I will make the offer again. I would be happy to meet Greg and Russ in an open debate (with the partner of my choice) under formal rules of debate, and would suggest utilizing a moderated version of the Public Forum Debate to extend the times.
    I would propose the question to be debated is; “Human activity has caused global warming leading to significant climate change, the pace of that change is quickening, and the effects of that activity pose a serious threat to our environment and human life and quality of life.”

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  17. L Avatar
    L

    Except for the mandatory innuendo, the De Smog c.v. of Dr. Christy is pretty good, the warmunists here should take the time to read it. And remind themselves that he is the man running the UAH satellite temperature program. That the satellite and weather balloon records (which agree with each other) support the skeptic viewpoint while the warmunists panic is built on unverifiable models, smoke and mirrors, ought to make an impression on the brighter folk on that side of the great divide.
    That it doesn’t tells us a great deal about the power of propaganda.
    While it’s on my mind, I think it would be nice if people here would stop accusing naïf Frisch of racism over his hiring practices at SBC. I can think of a dozen reasons for there being no employees ‘of color’ without thinking anything amiss. I know it’s tempting, but please remember the Golden Rule.
    Stick with his wrongheadedness about actual things- climate, economy, guns, etc. That should be sufficient task for us.

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  18. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    “What I wonder about is why no prominent proponent of preventable manmade global warming is willing to have a debate on the topic in a prominent public forum with a knowledgeable skeptic.”–George Rebane
    Are you serious George, I have offered such a debate here before, and all declined.
    I would be happy to meet you in the public square my friend under rules of order.
    (I would require we have a neutral moderator who would actually enforce the rules rather than allowing you to break them as Paul did the last time we met for a debate.)

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  19. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    That’s the spirit Steavy, Get all butthurt when you can’t hold your own against an admitted ditch digger.
    I work for a living while you have your hand outstretched for free money, since you failed at real work.
    You can’t back up your AGW horse shit. Russ kicks your ass at every turn.
    This isn’t COMMIE China where only what YOU care gets said, and other opinion is silenced.Uh,,, “moderated”. Welcome to America,,asswipe.

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  20. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Comrade Bernie’s eugenics train is rolling –
    https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/09/07/alveda-king-bernies-population-control-will-target-black-communities/
    😉

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  21. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Answer up Frisch,, just what will replace oil? That’s what your Presidential wannabes are promising.
    Your Mr. ECO here, you should have that answer. Just what is going to power the nation? HHUUMMMMM???????

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  22. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Actually Christy’s data has been pretty deeply studied by multiple sources and found wanting and flawed.
    https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/JTECH-D-16-0121.1
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/may/11/more-errors-identified-in-contrarian-climate-scientists-temperature-estimates
    But I am sure the case that will be made here by Greg is that Christy is correct and EVERYONE else is wrong. That is the modus operandi of the denier. .

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  23. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 07 September 2019 at 12:05 PM
    Ah, here it comes…can’t hack it so attack my employment.

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  24. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Walt | 07 September 2019 at 12:12 PM
    I have been pretty clear over the years about my opinion about what and how quickly clean energy can replace dirty energy. It will take about 50 years. We can get to about 40% clean in the next 15 years; 75% clean by 2050; and the last 25% is going to be very hard.

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  25. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    You call that “employment”? Yaa.. You stick with that.
    And as suspected, you can’t say what’s going to replace oil.
    CNG comes out of the ground too.
    So dodge the question and deflect. The usual response.

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Russ just kicks Frisch’s ass on the AGW crap. But thankfully the democrat Prez candidates are so friggin stupid they told the truth about their desires on this hoax of “climate change” the other day. Thanks Frisch and all your pals ofor giving the country another four years of Trump!

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  27. AVPMM Avatar
    AVPMM

    ,,,Posted by: fish | 07 September 2019 at 08:55 AM,,,
    Oh dear gun nut Fishstick,,,did my wannabe Wyatt Earp comment hit a little too close to home???
    Is this your blog??? Loving your selfie
    http://fishnerd.com/

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  28. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its getting downright medieval on skid row in LA LA land –
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/leprosy-could-be-next-public-health-crisis-hit-los-angeles
    😉

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  29. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    It’s a simple question Frisch,,, where is ALLL that electricity
    going to come from??
    The elect. buggy TODAY, gets ten miles to a pound of coal.
    The Tesla eats 150KW per battery charge. Yup,, there is efficiency for you. You can power a good sized window air conditioner for a week with that same power.
    You have any idea how much particulate matter is produced by elec. motors?
    Ever seen the inside of a UP locomotive gen. unit? That’s not diesel soot.
    Yet you want to impose your self imposed guilt trip an everyone.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: AVPMM | 07 September 2019 at 12:45 PM
    Uh no dugsKKKi….Wal-Mart can sell whatever they want…..in fact removing the firearms section should open up floor space for more adult care and incontinence items.
    So you got that working for you.
    it sounds like somebody might be a little sensitive about his time in the Del Oro though.

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  31. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Bernie now supports Soylent Green solutions to population. Maybe he could go to skidrow and get two birds with one stone?

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  32. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    StevenF 1159am – You again misunderstand. The ‘prominent proponent’ debate I referred to was one between nationally known advocates of their respected positions. While you may consider yourself such a prominent proponent, that opinion is not shared by many, and I most certainly don’t consider myself of such prominence.
    As to debating you in a more limited local forum, that would be fun but of little consequence. For openers, I’m not sure that we could agree on the detailed thesis of the debate – the one you outlined is an example of irresolution in which no one could even agree on terms to argue points such as “significant climate change”, “quickening pace”, “serious threat”, … . These are the bullshit terms on which the current politicized hysteria has been promoted without anyone defining any of the terms in such a way as to bring science and our state of knowledge into the discussion. For us to have a serious debate on the science of preventable manmade global warming, you would have demonstrate a command of the multiple sciences involved, which you have yet to do in the years you have argued your case on these pages.

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  33. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Dr.R… that would take place in a dimly lit room, with only the two or four “invited” discusers. No cameras, no recording equipment.(and we all know why) No way will it be in ANY public setting. The embarrassment of an ECO warrior will not be tolerated. Especially when he picked the fight.

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  34. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hurricanes: article worth a skim.
    https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch/an-overblown-hypothesis
    ———————————
    The candidate’s proposals
    “The candidates’ proposals accomplish almost none of these things. Democrats berate Republicans for “denying science,” yet there is little science in their position papers. Instead, they believe the answers to climate change are obvious: mandated technologies—like wind, solar, and electric cars—that we’ve already decided are best. We simply need to restrict behaviors—eating meat, air travel—increasingly viewed as problematic. Rather than looking to markets and science to develop better approaches, they want to impose readymade solutions by fiat.
    “There’s another reason we know that these proposals won’t work: they’ve already been tried. In 2011, Germany launched its ambitious Energiewende plan to shift its power grid from coal and nuclear power to “renewable” wind and solar. The program costs some $36 billion annually, and electricity prices have skyrocketed. Yet Germany’s carbon emissions remain as bad as ever, its air is filthy, and coal strip mines continue to eat into the landscape. The project is an epic failure by any measure.
    “Most of the Democrats’ climate plans, nonetheless, follow the German roadmap. Warren even vows to phase out nuclear power, currently America’s biggest source of carbon-free energy. A growing consensus exists among energy analysts and climate scientists that nuclear power is a crucial component in reducing carbon emissions. But on this issue, you don’t hear much from the candidates about “trusting the science.”(Booker and Andrew Yang, who take pro-nuclear positions, are brave exceptions.)
    “It’s almost as if bringing down carbon emissions isn’t the candidates’ top goal. If you look closely, you’ll see that their proposals are loaded with items only marginally related to carbon emissions: billions for “infrastructure” and new foreign aid, promises to create “10 million jobs”—and let’s make those “union jobs” while we’re at it.”
    https://www.city-journal.org/democratic-presidential-candidates-climate-change-plans

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  35. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Unlikable squared –
    Warren and Clinton talk behind the scenes as 2020 race intensifies
    Analysis: Neither camp wants to talk about it, but the two women have recently grown closer.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-clinton-talk-behind-scenes-2020-race-intensifies-n1049701
    😉

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  36. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Actually I could bring someone of much greater prominence than me (which I of course agree is not very great) to the table.
    And it’s not uncommon to need to zero in on a mutually agreed upon debate question. That is why I used the word “propose.”
    I would also say that you have failed to prove any expertise in any science either. You do have an expertise in ad hominem insult demonstrated daily. But then I did not make the offer to you, I made it to Greg and Russ.
    And Walt, I would be happy to do this very publicly with witnesses, on camera, whatever the heck you want. You obviously did not bother to go read the Public Forum Debate descriptions widely available…they are by definition public.
    Here is what I am absolutely sure of. Each of you is happy to blow off a little climate denial bullshit with your buddies…but none of you will ever have the balls to have your beliefs seriously challenged in a fair format in public.

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  37. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Listen to the high and mighty one. Your real quick to insult one’s intelligence. That’s what losers of arguments do.
    You have sown no real concept of the ramifications of an oil free economy. Nope, you won’t go there. Nor say right here what’s to replace it.. Crickets.
    All you ECO bastards can come up with is “may, might, could, possibly”. Look no further than the chicken little predictions of the last 30 years. Hawaii is still very much inhabitable.
    Sacramento isn’t beachfront property. And snow is far from a thing of the past in DC.
    Yes,, SNOW still in our own high country is a good teller of lack of AGW. Tough titty if that goes against your narrative.
    You can’t have it both ways.
    It’s either getting hotter, or it ain’t.
    But keep dodging facts and reality.
    Nope, you ignore the two ships of fools posts. Looks like that missing sea ice found them. Yes, ignore that fact.
    Shuck and jive all you care too. your the one looking like the fool.
    So just what will be your excuse if this Winter is worse than last year? “It’s just weather”?
    Yup we had one day this year that broke a heat record.(by 1.5 deg.) It must be AGW.

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The science is settled. It’s going to be electric car. Solar, and wind…by fiat.
    “There’s another reason we know that these proposals won’t work: they’ve already been tried. In 2011, Germany launched its ambitious Energiewende plan to shift its power grid from coal and nuclear power to “renewable” wind and solar. The program costs some $36 billion annually, and electricity prices have skyrocketed. Yet Germany’s carbon emissions remain as bad as ever, its air is filthy, and coal strip mines continue to eat into the landscape. The project is an epic failure by any measure.
    “Most of the Democrats’ climate plans, nonetheless, follow the German roadmap. Warren even vows to phase out nuclear power, currently America’s biggest source of carbon-free energy. A growing consensus exists among energy analysts and climate scientists that nuclear power is a crucial component in reducing carbon emissions. But on this issue, you don’t hear much from the candidates about “trusting the science.”(Booker and Andrew Yang, who take pro-nuclear positions, are brave exceptions.)“
    https://www.city-journal.org/democratic-presidential-candidates-climate-change-plans

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hurricans in the Atlantic. Worth a read or quick skim
    https://newcriterion.com/blogs/dispatch/an-overblown-hypothesis

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Looks like somebody really, really doesn’t want to be president?

    ”Sanders’ Latest Terrible Idea: Let Illegals Create Immigration Plan

    Are there criminal sanctions for so obviously throwing a presidential election….?
    https://lidblog.com/bernies-illegals/

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  41. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Walt-
    You keep whiffing at the same ball.
    You don’t understand the questions much less the answers. American Rifleman and Breitbart are not considered pillars of science. But you will never understand that because . . . (fill in the blank). You have become fixated on a patch of snow in the mountains above Truckee in 2019 and consider it a benchmark of world wide climate change trends. Chew another plug.

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  42. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    LOL jiggerd boob , Your just an epic fail. Didn’t know snow melts in Spring? Good job there.
    All in a tizzy think private sale background checks will work.
    Then STFU when a felon gets a gun right here. Funny you sure got quiet on that.
    Take another hit of that Dope Vape.

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  43. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Hey now senator that’s a thin veneer of political correctness that ruptured too easily –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-apologizes-for-laughing-after-man-calls-trump-retarded
    😉

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  44. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Frisch 218pm
    While the concept of a friendly debate is appealing, I can’t imagine you would approach it with anything other than your usual rattlesnake self.
    I’d not choose Russ to be at my side, or George for that matter. And if you can find someone more suitable a debater than yourself, propose them. You are a non-starter. We can debate here, or another blog. That’s it.
    The journal article you’ve cited is by a retired engineer whose research is unknown and is without affiliation and, as far as I can tell, he doesn’t claim that Christy’s research is, as you put it, “wanting and flawed”. The newspaper article is by a professor of mechanical engineering whose PhD thesis is an analysis of an industrial electric oven… while that would make him more interesting than a science nobody such as yourself, I’ve a good idea that he’s also motivated by fear and loathing of people who don’t attend the same Church of Our Lady of the Presumptuous Assumption that he does.
    The UAH results track the RSS results from the same satellite data fairly well, and they both track radiosonde (think high altitude weather balloon) datasets. And all four of those major datasets are significantly BELOW the IPCC blessed simulation runs.
    I’d suggest the question, “Global warming is not a crisis” that was the subject of an Intelligence Squared debate that was lost (very badly, I’m afraid) by a team led by Gavin Schmidt.
    https://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/global-warming-not-crisis

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  45. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    “So just what will be your excuse if this Winter is worse than last year? “It’s just weather”?”–Walt
    Well, um Walt, “worse” where? Do you mean globally? in the US? in California? or just Truckee, which you have been using as an example for two days, as though snow fields remaining visible in September means something?
    And what do you mean by “worse” do you mean colder? with more snow? or what?
    But yes, if it snows more in Truckee next year I will say it’s the weather, because Truckee is just one place on the planet, and winters are ‘better” or “worse” where I live every year.
    That’s what weather is Walt. Is that simple enough for you?

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  46. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Gotta love the sharpygate. The losing side (the ones bitching at Trump) now say ” Politics and weather science have no business being mingled”.
    Well there you have it.. AGW is nothing more than “political science”.
    Let the true believers come to grips with that.

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  47. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The Taliban must have mistakenly thought they were dealing with team 0 to think a couple of bombings during negotiations would strengthen their negotiating position. –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-announces-hes-cancelled-a-secret-meeting-with-taliban-leaders-after-car-bombs-in-afghanistan-kill-an-American
    😉

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  48. J. Barron Avatar
    J. Barron

    Doesn’t Trump understand “the Taliban” stretches across many countries in many, many sects? Completely predictable that negotiations with one sect won’t fly with another and a bombing will be blamed on the entire tribe and close negotiations. Trump needs to listen to his advisors and actually read history or else friggin resign. For all he knows the bombing was by Al Qaeda who blamed it on the Taliban?

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  49. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Look like its election meddling trouble for the lefty AG in Michigan –
    A former campaign staffer for Michigan’s Democrat Attorney General Dana Nessel allegedly said he used Ukrainian hackers to manipulate the election and help Nessel win the state’s closest race in 2018.
    The bombshell allegation was buried in a federal extortion lawsuit against Dmitriy Movsesyan, who worked on Nessel’s campaign at various points in 2017 and 2018. (Full disclosure: This columnist funded an independent expenditure against Nessel’s eventual 2018 Republican opponent, Tom Leonard, during the GOP nomination campaign.)
    The lawsuit, filed by Executive Car Rental owner Maher Waad in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, claims Movsesyan “boasted of his underworld network of Ukranian [sic] computer hackers, who Movsesyan claimed manipulated the 2018 Michigan Attorney General Election.”
    Obviously, this is a serious allegation that should be investigated by the U.S. Justice Department. The Michigan Legislature should also launch an inquiry, though it lacks the investigative expertise and resources for such a probe.
    Regardless of his exact title, Movsesyan was paid $21,651 by Nessel’s campaign, according to both state campaign finance records and published reports.
    One message included a selfie-style picture of him driving Nessel. “Oh look, it’s your favorite attorney general in my back seat,” Movsesyan is accused of texting.
    It is far too early to know all of the facts, but this allegation has potentially wide-ranging implications, not least because Nessel has been relentless in carrying out a hard-left agenda.
    Nessel’s greatest hits since taking office in January have included launching a special unit to surveil political opponents under the guise of so-called hate crimes, declining to enforce laws that conflicted with her ideology and uniting Muslims and Roman Catholics to denounce her threat to religious freedom. Even liberal writers have described Nessel as “brash” for turning “her liberal politics into policy.”
    Perhaps what is most astonishing about this latest allegation is the almost complete silence from the Michigan press corps. Only the Detroit News picked up the election manipulation allegation in their story about the extortion lawsuit.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/06/dennis-lennox-michigans-democrat-attorney-general-dana-nessel-caught-up-in-election-manipulation-allegation/
    😉

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  50. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The troll babbles and flashes the ignorant light, the Taliban spokesmen claimed the attacks and said they were to gain leverage braniac. –
    “”Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday”
    😉

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