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04 September 2019

[Apologies for the delay in providing new sand. You all seem to have covered every imaginable issue in the last Sandbox. And there is more to be said about it all. Haven’t heard of more dropouts in the derby beyond Gillibrand – we’ll update scores when I get home. Sally forth! gjr]

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259 responses to “Sandbox – 5sep19”

Gregory

06 September 2019

I sure did, Steve, and it didn’t disappoint. It isn’t peer reviewed and it has all the gravitas as the Christy paper from the GWPF.
There isn’t one mention of solar cycles or cosmic rays. Just a bunch of handwaving.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

So Steve… why can’t you recognize you’re only reading pieces by cosmic ray deniers?

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Russ

06 September 2019

NOAA disavows National Weather Service tweet that contradicted Trump
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) released a statement Friday evening disavowing a days-old tweet from the National Weather Service that contradicted President Trump over the reach of Hurricane Dorian.
The NOAA statement, which was unsigned and posted to the agency’s website on Friday, said that the “Birmingham National Weather Service’s Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time.”
Why does the lefty press insist on getting it wrong?

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L

06 September 2019

Steve @ 3:21- I went back to re-read your link but found that downloading the full report would take more time than I have to spare on this particular study. The graphic at the end of your link does an adequate job of illustrating their claims; what’s lacking is a causal connection between CO2 and the different outcomes they suggested, between mitigation and business-as-usual. Until someone can demonstrate that the equilibrium climate response to a doubling of CO2 is substantially larger than 1.1 C, I’ll continue to satisfy my interest in the opposition view by confining my reading to summaries.
Nothing against learning, but there’s only so much time available and many, many things of interest.
None of this is to suggest their prediction is wrong, merely that it isn’t proven.

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Russ

06 September 2019

Colder winter in 2019-2020 than 2018-2019? Check this out, the number of growing degree days this year are declining by as much as 25% in critical agricultural regions of the US. More details here: https://nextgrandminimum.com/2019/09/04/next-grand-minimum-declining-temperatures/
Based on the available data I would predict a cooler winter this year, than last, which was cooler than the year before. What happened to the warming?

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Walt

06 September 2019

Russ. I’m pretty sure the true believers will use the tried and true stand-by excuse…”It’s just weather”.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

Walt… it is just weather.
And climate is just cumulative weather.
An unmistakably cold ’19-’20 might turn a few more percenters towards climate realists. Eventually, I’d like to see LIB candidates being competitive, but this will take a collapse of the Democratic Party.
A man can dream, can’t he?
I’d not be surprised if the Warmistas at the top know this and are just holding on by their fingertips… imagine had Hillary won or Obama had held onto the Senate… they’d be crowing how they changed the world just in the nick of time (to take advantage of a natural variation in the direction they promised).

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

UH OH! Creepy grampa joe getting handsy again –
“I think that he means well but, you know, he grabbed my hands right away and that was really uncomfortable,” she said. “He was very close and, in my mind, I’m like, this is part of our problem: Not recognizing that you need to ask first, or can I shake your hand? Not just grab your hands and hang onto them.”
“That bothers me,” she added.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/06/iowa-teacher-rebuffs-joe-bidens-handsiness-you-need-to-ask-first/
😉

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Walt

06 September 2019

The attack on robot workers(spawned by LIB ideals) begins.
The LIBs still want their taxes!
https://www.atr.org/bill-de-blasio-president-i-would-issue-robot-tax?amp
“Democrat presidential candidate Bill De Blasio announced on Thursday that if elected, he would impose a national “robot tax” and create a new bureaucracy to regulate automation.
In a Wired op-ed, De Blasio wrote: “As President, I would issue a robot tax for corporations displacing humans, and create a federal agency to oversee automation.”
He said his “proposal would institute a ‘robot tax’ on large companies that eliminate jobs through increased automation and fail to provide adequate replacement jobs.”
De Blasio called for a tax increase by taking away full expensing of new equipment, and said companies would “be required to pay five years of payroll taxes up front for each employee eliminated.” ”
But only the G-man will profit from those funds.. Not one displaced worker.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

This summer, I’ve run the A/C just 16 times, and never overnight.
This is a record low usage for me, going back 20 years since the A/C was installed.
By the Accuweather long range forecast, Wednesday’s 90 will be the last temp in the ’90’s for the year up here.
Summertime’s done come and gone, my oh my!

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Walt

06 September 2019

LOL!!! Hey Crabbster! Is that MY plastic bottle?
You always seem to come here for inspiration.
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/r-l-crabb-it-takes-a-village-idiot-403/
I want my cut of the revinue.

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Walt

06 September 2019

G for the last few years(not counting last year) I used 4 cords of firewood to heat the place. Last year it went up to 5.
I’m still a cord short on the woodpile. A cheap truckload will be sitting by the road looking for a buyer soon enough.

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

Creepy grampa joe busted for revisionist history, again –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/06/joe-biden-hammered-after-falsely-claiming-he-opposed-iraq-war/
😉

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bull pucky.
Another study debunked.
The study, which found a 226 percent increase in white-nationalist propaganda and hate crimes in counties that hosted Trump campaign rallies, failed to account for political campaigns’ preference for hosting rallies in highly populated areas that naturally tend to experience more hate crimes, according to the analysis conducted by Harvard P.h.D. candidates Matthew Lilley and Brian Wheaton.
“Lilley and Wheaton were able to replicate the initial study’s findings with respect to Trump rallies, but found an even greater increase in hate crimes in counties that hosted Clinton campaign rallies during the same period.
Once the researchers controlled for population size, the effect of Trump rallies on hate crimes became “statistically indistinguishable from zero.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/students-debunk-study-showing-226-percent-rise-hate-crimes-following-trump-rallies/

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Walt

06 September 2019

Emery will splooge all over himself The kind of news he loves.
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2019/09/03/hurricane-brexit-to-make-landfall-towards-end-of-october/
“A massive shit-storm that has been hanging over the UK since June 2016 is set to make landfall towards the end of October confirmed meteorologists. But despite knowing for over three years that the most serious crisis since 1939 was heading our way, the government has done nothing to prepare us for the misery that lies ahead.”
And it only gets better from there.

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Walt

06 September 2019

jiggered never said he went on a trip to the UK,,, Now we know
why.
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2019/08/26/man-in-empty-restaurant-toilet-cant-decide-which-urinal-to-use/

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

What Motivates Democrats: Stopping Climate Change, or Ending Capitalism?
For many climate activists, the real enemy is modern society.
“One question leading climate activists should be asked is this: “If the planet suddenly started cooling rapidly, would you be in favor of increasing carbon emissions to keep the planet warm?” This admittedly annoying question is meant only to highlight a simple point. Environmentalists’ concerns over global warming fit nicely with their general anti-capitalist bias. But if there were a conflict between the two priorities and they had to choose one, which would they choose?
“Some environmentalists would probably increase carbon emissions, or embrace some other kind of geo-engineering, to stave off an ice age. But many — or most — would say that nature should be allowed to take its natural course, and what humans need to do is stop mucking around with it. These environmentalists would presumably be okay with global warming if the cause were natural as opposed to anthropogenic.
“This points to a deeper ambivalence about the actual risks of climate change. Joe Biden was criticized for admitting that the U.S. decarbonizing alone wouldn’t make a difference. “The fact of the matter is that we make up 15 percent of the problem,” he said. The rest of the world makes up 80, 85 percent of the problem.” But even if the entire world implements the most sweeping climate proposals, it would not guarantee that climate change would be stopped. And even if such policies actually succeeded in holding temperature increases to the current target of the Paris climate agreement, there is currently no scientific method that could definitely establish climate policies as the reason that temperatures stopped rising. In other words, not only is there reasonable doubt that climate policies would work, we might never be able to know that they did work.“
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/global-warming-debate-climate-activists-anti-capitalist-motives/

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

WINNING!
More markets for our farmers in asia as they suffer massive pork stock depletions. So not only is the chi com shift to other suppliers working for us with their 50 percent loss of swine stock its spreading across the region. –
HANOI (Reuters) – Vietnam has culled about 4.7 million pigs to contain an outbreak of African swine fever that has spread to all 63 provinces in the Southeast Asian country, an official said on Friday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/vietnam-culls-4-7-million-111223305.html
😉

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

Sharpiegate: CNN TOLD ALABAMA TO BE ‘ON THE LOOKOUT’ FOR DORIAN ON 8/28
https://news.grabien.com/story-cnn-told-alabama-be-lookout-dorian-828

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Walt

06 September 2019

This is why Trump has already won the election.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/06/elizabeth-warren-promises-executive-order-fossil-fuel-leases-ban-fracking/
Only the radical LIBS will vote for this insanity. Lieawatha
has no clue of the damage that would follow.
No sane Repub will vote for that, Nor the Independants.
Just the likes of jiggered and Dougy Emery as well.
I’m sure the Pharaoh of the foothills would too, even if it meant freezing like a mammoth come Winter, looking at the bright side of Trump being gone.

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Walt

06 September 2019

Just read a GREAT post from my find above,,
The guy says the oil refineries should shut down for a week or two just to give the Proggys a taste of their grand idea.
And watch the pandemonium that would soon follow.

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

The Democrats say Americans are the problem—so vote Democrat!……
Meat is good for you. The End
For Walt….
https://www.theblaze.com/chad-prather/watch-chad-prather-put-an-end-to-the-gun-debate?

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

The usual suspects engage in espionage. No really we discovered it on our own comrade. –
A Russian citizen was arrested in Italy last week for allegedly orchestrating a five-year scheme to steal General Electric’s trade secrets—and claim they belonged to the Russian state, according to the Southern District of Ohio US Attorney’s Office.
Alexander Korshunov, a former Russian foreign ministry official and an employee of the state-owned United Engine Corp. (UEC), colluded with Maurizio Bianchi, a former director at an Italian subsidiary of GE Aviation, according to a Department of Justice statement issued today. Both men have been charged with conspiring and attempting to steal trade secrets from a US company and could face up to 10 years in prison, the statement said.
On Korshunov’s behalf, Bianchi allegedly hired current or former GE Aviation employees as consultants between 2013 and 2018. They were paid to create a technical report about jet engine accessory gearboxes, for which they used GE Aviation’s trade secrets, the statement says. The firm Bianchi was working for allegedly had a contract with Aviadvigatel, a branch of UEC that the Department of Commerce flagged last year for “acting contrary to the national security or foreign policy interests of the United States.”
Despite the intellectual property belonging to GE, the employees’ statements of work allegedly said “the holders of patent and intellectual property obtained as a result of the work are…the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.”
https://qz.com/1703329/russia-allegedly-stole-ge-aviation-trade-secrets/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo
😉

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

This makes sense with the socialist dems anti-Semitism of late. They betrayed us, allies and begged and bribed those mutha mullahs just to get a meaningless signature that only emboldened the mullahs campaign of death across the region. –
NEW YORK — In the run-up to President Barack Obama’s controversial nuclear deal with Iran, the U.S. military under the Obama administration reportedly used American spy satellites to monitor Israel Defense Force actions out of concern that the Jewish state would strike Iran’s nuclear program.
The detail was contained in an extensive New York Times Magazine story titled “The Secret History of the Push to Strike Iran.” The story says it is based on accounts with “dozens of current and former American, Israeli and European officials,” including many top American and Israeli officials cited on the record.
The piece documents the fractured relationship between Israel and the Obama administration on a host of issues, especially disagreements over the emerging nuclear talks with Iran. The Israeli government was initially kept in the dark about the early talks that eventually became the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the deal that President Trump would later withdraw from.
The Times reported that Obama saw the JCPOA as the “centerpiece of his foreign-policy legacy.” For Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, however, the newspaper reported that the deal would, according to The Times’ characterization, “be the ultimate betrayal — Israel’s closest ally negotiating behind its back with its most bitter enemy.”
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/09/05/report-obama-admin-spied-on-israeli-military-using-american-satellites/

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Russ

06 September 2019

Frisch: Snow Depth in the Sierra Nevada Has Changed Little in More Than 100 Years, According to New Study
It’s well known that California, and especially the Sierra Nevada, can have wild fluctuations in weather. But, according to one new study, the average snowfall depth has been relatively steady over the past 130 years.
“There isn’t a trend significantly different from zero for the whole period,” said the study’s author, John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama. “I also looked at just the past 50 years and there is no trend over this recent stretch either.”
Christy, a critic of global warming science, contends the study’s findings contradict concerns that snowfall in the Sierra Nevada is disappearing due to manmade climate change.
A summary of climate change in California’s 2009 Water Plan Update acknowledges uncertainties about how increased greenhouse gas concentrations may affect precipitation, but finds “there is a very high confidence that higher temperatures will lead to dramatic changes in the snowfall and snowmelt dynamics in watersheds with substantial snow.”
“Higher temperatures will have several major effects: they will increase the ratio of rain to snow, delay the onset of the snow season, accelerate the rate of spring snowmelt, and shorten the overall snowfall season, leading to more rapid and earlier seasonal runoff,” according to the summary.
Christy gathered his data set from snow depth records kept by stations along the Southern Pacific Railroad.
“They took great care to measure snowfall because they had to know how much snow fell before sending trains through the mountain passes,” Christy said. “No one else had looked at this data in detail. The records are pretty thorough and the measuring tools – a device resembling a tall, sturdy yardstick – are easy to use and obviously don’t need power, so there aren’t many gaps in the record.”
He also used data from hydro-power and regional water systems, logging and mining companies and the National Weather Service stations and volunteers. Christy had to manually enter much of the hand-written data into a computer.
To analyze the information, Christy divided the state into 18 regions based on the snowfall and the quality of records for that region. Six or seven of the regions had good, robust data with at least five to 15 stations with records, he said.
Looking at both the 130-year record and the most recent 50-year record – which includes the 1975 to 2000 period when global temperatures rose – the California data show no long-term changes in snowfall in any region, according to a statement released about the study.
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/snow-depth-in-the-sierra-nevada-has-changed-little-in-more-than-100-years-according-to-new-study/
As always there are critics: “John Christy failed to find a downward trend in California snowfall because he is looking in the wrong places,” said snow researcher and occasional Tahoe Environmental Research Center consultant Bob Coats in a letter.
I guess Dr. Christy was supposed to look in only approved spots, under the AC vents, blacktop parking lots, and weather stations with burn barrels, like one at the Lake Tahoe spillway. See photo here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/13/apparently-goverenor-brown-youve-never-visited-the-weather-station-at-lake-tahoe/

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Walt

06 September 2019

LOL!! I really rattled the Frischy! He had to go find some article to cut and paste.
He went WAY out of his way to try and explain snow that lasted all Summer… With AGW at work.
He’s going to be losing sleep tonight.. “DAMN that ditch digger.. That snow was hiding in plain sight. He just HAD to go and point it out.. Now I have to make up excuses of just why it’s still there. DAMN his eyes!!…”
All that fuss, and only a few will ever bother to read it.
And Russ has already shot it full of holes.

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

What is it with the socialist lefts obsession with the letter R? Years and years of rancid Russian dressing that destroyed cnn and MSNBC and its new R addiction is:
RECESSION!
“This is Trumponomics and he’s doing very much the same thing,” Levin said. “These employment levels are historic. They’re record-breaking. We haven’t seen this kind of thing ever. And no, he didn’t inherit it from Obama, Trump’s policies have been completely opposite of Obama.
MARK LEVIN: COMEY ‘SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE’ TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER
“This is Trumponomics — and Trumponomics is working.”
However, Levin — who also hosts Fox News’ “Life, Liberty & Levin” — claimed the American people may not realize how well the country is doing because reporters and politicians refuse to speak frankly on the matter.
“You would think the media would be celebrating, the Democrats would be celebrating, the Republicans would be celebrating,” he said.
“Instead it’s ‘Ho-hum’ and ‘The recession is coming’ — but the recession is not coming, according to the Federal Reserve chairman.”
The Pennsylvania-born radio host added the press has instead sought to stifle news of economic achievements.
“They want to talk down the economy,” he said. “Hollywood is doing it, CNN is doing, [MSNBC] is doing it… they’re all doing it.
“The media on all platforms … has been shouting the word ‘recession’ for a month, but they won’t give Trump any credit. They won’t give capitalism any credit. Instead, on and on with the Marxist pablum that is regurgitated by the Democrats
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mark-levin-trumponomics-media-economy-jobs-numbers
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Walt

06 September 2019

The Proggys already know how to rig this.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maine-to-become-the-first-state-to-allow-presidential-ranked-voting-governor-will-allow-bill-to-become-law
It REALLY makes it easy to cheat.
“Ranked voting in Maine was approved by voters in 2016 but only used for federal races and primaries. The system was the subject of controversy in 2018, when Republican U.S. Rep. Bruce Poliquin lost his bid for reelection in Maine’s second house district to Democratic opponent, Jared Golden despite having more votes than his closest opponent.”

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Don Bessee

06 September 2019

It is such a target rich environment tonight! That’s right screw the working poor that are left. –
U.S.
Seattle City Council to Consider Natural Gas Ban
https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-city-council-consider-natural-181007496.html
😉

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

Hey, if you want to have a 20% more chance of bleeding on the brain, go ahead and be a veg-head. Red meat is good for you.
“This is the first study to look at the risk of stroke in vegetarians, said Tong. The research found that vegetarians and vegans had a 20% higher risk of stroke than meat-eaters, particularly hemorrhagic stroke — caused when blood from an artery begins to bleed into the brain. This translates to 3 more cases of stroke per 1,000 people over 10 years.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/health/vegetarian-vegan-diet-stroke-heart-disease-risk-intl/index.html
Come to papa.

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Jig Wiggly

06 September 2019

Russ 8:21
You spout opinion, yet here are the facts. Aren’t you one of those guys who say numbers don’t lie? Either the numbers lie, or you are a lier. I’m sorry, but your opinions simply do not correlate with reality. Your propaganda machine will always work with Todd and Walt, but for people with more than a minimal education, it’s laughable. As are you.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-018-0012-1

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J. Barron

06 September 2019

J. Barron 8:59
Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses
WOW. You guys are so democratic. Looks like you are owned by a strong arm dictator. A one man party. Taking a line from his buds in N. Korea and Myanmar. Even Venezuela isn’t this bad.
Crickets. Not a single comment. Silence speaks volumes. You own this. You can pretend no one takes notice, but we do and we don’t forget.

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Walt

06 September 2019

Did jigger Barron say something? I’m pretty sure you were just passing gas.
And for the jiggered one, Russ knows plenty more than you.
He’s forgotten more than you will ever learn.
Here is your juice box, (sour grapes) ,, now go hit up Mamma for your diaper change. No,, no hugs tonight, your therapy appointment is in the morning, so don’t be late.

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

And there has not been an increase in numbers or intensity of hurricanes since at least 1900.

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Walt

06 September 2019

Caucuses are so yesterday. Who wants to spend time going from group to group all damned night? That’s what a voting ballot is for. Your in, punch the ticket and then out the door.
Your problem jigger B. is the lose of your superdelegates.
Look at all the escapees from the nut house that are running for President.
No adults left in the Proggy party to keep the idiots in check.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

Wiggy Jiggly 937pm
You are absolutely correct… as of Spring 2018, there had been a decreasing snow pack in the Sierra.
And then the snows started the next winter.
I take it you think the drought and heat waves will come back. That is a possible future, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

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Walt

06 September 2019

Just because he has a snowball’s chance in Death Valley in July, you say stupid shit.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/09/06/joe-walsh-donald-trump-is-trying-to-eliminate-elections/
Kinda like jiggered and Barron.

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Walt

06 September 2019

🤣🤣 Good catch Gregory! I don’t think shit for brains even gives what he spews a second thought.
Imagine that. Snow starting to melt in the Spring. What a concept. 🤦‍♀️👌 Better luck next time jiggered one.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

Stevie Frisch
So, are you moving full speed ahead or are you harboring even a little concern that the next ten years will be slouching, in fits and starts, into the Little Ice Age part deux?
Please, a bluster would be in character, I’d hate for you to let fly with any doubt whatsoever.

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

“You own this. You can pretend no one takes notice, but we do and we don’t forget.”
Oh my. They are watching us and they won’t forget. Quick, to the safe place!
Reminds me of some long ago puppet saying they are keeping track of Trump early in the primaries and his latest statement will be Exhibit 1, which of course should disqualify him. They said they would not forget then as well. Did you hear the one about the crippled NYT reporter? Funny .
Won’t forget, eh? What, are you now not going to vote for Trump all of a sudden, roflmao.

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Walt

06 September 2019

Note to the jiggered one.
That’s why you don’t drink three too many Zima’s and post crap you don’t comprehend.

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Gregory

06 September 2019

“J. Barron” 944pm
15 Quatloos say the Barron is Michael P. Anderson

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Bill Tozer

06 September 2019

Careful Walt, the Boogie Man is watching you. Lost in the Ozone again.

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fish

07 September 2019

Posted by: Gregory | 06 September 2019 at 10:50 PM
15 Quatloos say the Barron is Michael P. Anderson
Part time anyway!

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fish

07 September 2019

Posted by: J. Barron | 06 September 2019 at 09:44 PM
Crickets. Not a single comment. Silence speaks volumes. You own this. You can pretend no one takes notice, but we do and we don’t forget.
Well….somebody got their Viagra free boner last night. Why always with the threats…..”j”….bad time at the “Spaceport” this year?

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Steven Frisch

07 September 2019

Yep Russ you are correct, John Cristy disagrees with hundreds of other scientists. So what? I could find ‘scientists’ who agree with Reinette Senum on vaccines, chemtrails, 5G and crises actors….yep, I bet I could.
https://www.desmogblog.com/john-christy
By he way how is that great big stash of incandescent bulbs doing? I am so glad you stockpiled against the LED apocalypse.

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Steven Frisch

07 September 2019

Hey Gregory, the science proving anthropogenic climate change will be proved correct over time and I really don’t need your approval.
The need to adapt our region to climate change is what motivates me…and I work on it every day, and I see every day that more and more residents of the Sierra, and Nevada County, see the problem and are doing work to begin to reverse it.
You, Todd, Russ and George can cite all the outlier opinions you desire….you are losing the battle…actually you’ve already lost the battle. California’s climate path is set for the next generation and you will never reverse it. Amongst conservatives below the age of 40, 70% believe climate change is an existential risk and government should take a leading role in mitigating it. You lost…you actually lost about 10 years ago.
Yep, you are in a bright (for you) shining moment of Trumpianism when action on climate change is temporarily slowed, with silly shit like the reversal of lightbulb standards, but coal is collapsing, business is divesting from fossil fuels, states are moving forward while the feds are dithering, major corporations are adopting climate risk management frameworks….it’s over buddy, your ideas lost.

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George Rebane

07 September 2019

Re StevenF 647am – Mr Frisch’s continued attempts to ‘prove’ preventable manmade global warming always wind up in the recital of the Apostles (of PMGW) Creed to confirm his deep and unshakeable faith that soon there will be incontestable science to support his belief system. Until then, all he can do is cite the politicized consensus on the issue that is totally free of science – the believers will not debate countering science; they dare not. Unfortunately, his conjectures on the political successes of mob mania may well become true; mankind has had similar episodes in the past. And as leading edge science becomes ever more inaccessible to the layman, the tendency to go with the comfort of the crowd becomes an overwhelming draw – no need to understand the underlying nature of things, just count the noses braying ‘Amen!!’

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Russ

07 September 2019

Hey Scott, Check this out no significant global warming in Idaho.
https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/publications/IdahoClimatePB.pdf
Conclusion Weather and climate data show climate change has had a minimal impact in Idaho, and to the extent, modest climate changes have occurred, the bulk of the impacts appear to have been beneficial. Even if Idaho were showing signs of substantial climate change and/or negative climate change impacts, Idaho has already dramatically curtailed its carbon dioxide emissions, which means state government action to curtail carbon dioxide emissions or otherwise address climate change would have extremely minimal climate impact.###

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MM

07 September 2019

,,,Walmart should be the hero of the Roundtable. Is it???
Big business,,,actually the biggest business,,, didn’t need big government to tell them what to do,,,they just did it.
Now plenty of giant corporations are telling the wannabe Wyatt Earps who want to open-carry to grow up and leave their pea shooters in the car when they shop at their stores.
Reasonable people – 1 Wackydoodles – 0

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