[We will now have to dissect the when and how President Trump was the prime cause of all these massacres. And one thing is clear to many of our tight thinkers, the man is able to make such things happen in cities where he previously held a campaign rally. So finally, after all the years of mass shootings, we have identified their cause. Socialist science marches on. gjr]
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rebanesruminations.com 
361 responses to “Sandbox – 6aug19”
Popcorn time.
“In the wake of the weekend’s mass shootings, the liberal media have unleashed a torrent of false accusations and attempted political exploitation.
But for sheer, vile, slander, it will be hard to top the calumny uttered by Nicolle Wallace on her MSNBC show Monday afternoon. Wallace actually claimed that President Trump is “talking about exterminating Latinos.”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2019/08/06/nicolle-wallace-trump-talking-about-exterminating-latinos
Teens eating Tide Pods. Parents don’t know what gender they are. Trust me. Guns are not the problem.
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Correlation, causation?? I do believe that Jiggly is more than a bit out of his depth here.
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Woke, not so woke if its inconvenient. –
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/06/wapo-lucy-flores-suffers-backlash-after-accusing-joe-biden-of-inappropriate-touching/
😉
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The pander bear in chief wannabe –
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/08/06/5-joe-biden-campaign-promises-he-says-hell-fulfill-on-day-one/
😉
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Very interesting –
None of the roughly 1,200 migrants who had their asylum cases adjudicated by federal immigration officials while they waited in Mexico as part of President Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy were found to be eligible for asylum, federal data finds.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/06/zero-of-1-2k-migrants-eligible-for-u-s-asylum-since-remain-in-mexico-policy/
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George-
By your’s and Bill’s own reasoning, being born white means one has a greater chance of being a mass shooter in the USA. Want the numbers? No, I guess that is kind of self evident. And the black phenotype is casual of criminality in general.
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Reading the latest thread, I had to share this:
A: It’s not a gun problem, it’s a parenting problem.
B: So you are saying, every country in the world has better parents than America?
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Think Jig’s been lurking WUWT and picked up on a common comment without understanding the whole observation. Of course, just cause correlation doesn’t equal causation doesn’t mean that in real life it never does; in fact it usually does.
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Jig 709pm – Huh?
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“So you are saying, every country in the world has better parents than America?”
Actually there many countries with far higher rates of violence and murder. We are hardly in the lead for mayhem.
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Correlation is a very common, but not sufficient, element of causation.
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O have always thought that American criminals are unique in that they are practicing in a country of almost unlimited freedoms. So human nature lets those rascals who do hatm have more opportunity to do so. In other cultures there is way less freedom and more pressure on “rights” so people do less crime.
A criminal in Singapore that peddles dope is executed quite rapidly while in the USA he gets three squares a day, and counseling.
And Trump fell for the lefty trick of telling the world he opposes “white nationalism” as asked for by the left. Only to then be trashed for not being believed by them. You cannot make the left happy regardless and he should simply tell them to kiss his ass.
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Democrats in America have lost their minds and in my opinion, they are becoming dangerous. They say Trump’s rhetoric is the problem. Sorry, I have not heard him say anything like these democrats are saying. Their words are vile, violent and unAmerican. Trump has never said anything racist yet this is said by the left. In my view, they are projecting. They are claiming Trump and we supporters are doing and saying what the left is actually saying and doing. The killers from the weekend were not inspired by anyone, Trump or Warren. But somehow the clown car democrats for President blamed Trump and called him vile names. And nothing about Warren in the lamestream media These democrats cannot get elected to third-grade class President. Can you imagine if any of these unhinged democrats had the nuclear button? My goodness, they are simply unqualified and morons to boot.
It appears to me that Obama’s strategy to divide America is working. He practiced the Alinsk protocols of name-calling and division. He is a racist as are these democrats, top to bottom. They are the ones America needs to keep track of and make sure they never gain power over us politically. They are dangerous and divisive and they hate “white people”. Now I wonder about the conundrum of their white liberal supporters? The left has finally shown their traitorous policies and behaviors and we must defeat them at every opportunity. If the country wants to avoid becoming California we have to speak out and turn out to the polls and keep these seditionists from gaining power. Energize and organize for freedom and anti-socialism. If we don’t we will become slaves and cannon fodder again. Keep these lefty oligarchs out of power and our pockets.I hope you agree.
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Not surprised to find this load of crap on Yubanet.
https://yubanet.com/usa/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-link-between-mental-health-and-gun-violence-says-amnesty/
You have to be one “F”ed in the head individual to decide to go out on a killing spree.
“There is no evidence of a link between mental health and gun violence. Individuals with mental illness are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Only 5% of fire-arm related deaths were committed by someone with a diagnosed mental illness.”
So in general, you just need to be Liberal. (Since MOST mass killers have been found to be of that political bent)
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No 8:23, the single most common denominators are white male with a gun. You can’t even start to dispute that correlation, yet I certainly don’t believe white and male have anything to do with it. You are going to have to dig deeper than color, or parenting, or video games or Obama. I think your culture is the predominant underlying factor. Fear and hatred of people not like yourself.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
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Broken homes, broken kiddd
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho
Fact checker, 945pm, that distribution looks a lot like the general population of males by race.
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60% off mass murders are white, 60% of the population is white. 20% of the mass murderers are black, 13 % of the population is black.
They all have something in common. Broken families, broken kids. Broken families, broken communities. Broken communities, broken society.
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Gregory, I believe that Asians and African Americans are both overrepresented.
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Red Flag Law
Boy, imagine how many people will start turning in their crazy neighbors, not to mention ex-wives and vindictive ex-girlfriends. He’s crazy I tell,you, crazy and dangerous. He is worse than Hiltler.
When seconds matters and the cops are minutes away.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/06/red-flag-laws-not-good-solution-mass-shootings/
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Toes 1035pm
Not if damages are awarded for false accusations.
Hell, even in Nevada County we had a nutcase who shot up the place in 2001 and his bro was a law enforcement officer who knew his bro was a nutcase who was armed.
I expect if a Red Flag law with sufficient due process protections were crafted, Democrats in Congress wouldn’t go for it.
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White males are the problem? First whites are underrepresented as a percentage of population in gun violence. Second and far more importantly, we have a color blind cultural problem in the USA. The progressives have removed love and faith from our culture. Gun violence regardless of race is a natural consequence of progressive ideology. Combine that with progressives demonizing law enforcement and it is a clear path of how we got here. Progressives blame Trump in order to hide their ideological deficiencies. Look at Chicago. Mt. Sinai Hospital closed the ER this weekend because they were overwhelmed. That’s not Trump. That’s progressive ideology.
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“Fear and hatred of people not like yourself.”
Sure – that’s why most mass killers are killing folks that are just like them.
This fear and hatred crap is left-wing projection. No one is more fearful and hating than lefties.
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Amusing to see mass shooter stats elevated to the spotlight while at the same time homicide rates die a lonely death. Baltimore and Chicago vs. Dayton and El Paso. Are they not cut from the same cloth? The chickens are coming home to roost.
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“In a nation afflicted by fads, crazes, manias, and rages, mass murder is the jackpot for nihilists — begging the question: why does this country produce so many of them? Answer: this is exactly what you get in a culture where anything goes and nothing matters. Extract all the meaning and purpose from being here on earth, and erase as many boundaries as you can from custom and behavior, and watch what happens, especially among young men trained on video slaughter games.
“A culture where anything goes and nothing matters.
“That pretty much nails it.”
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/mass-shootings-fallout-culture-where-anything-goes-and-nothing-matters
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For science deniers (Todd) and Musk haters (Walt) watch this four second video and tell me Musk is just some dumb lefty squandering America’s money. “Drone ship catches nose cone of Space X.” Yeah, you guys are smarter and have done more for this world than old Elon. Tell us about it, again.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7331077/Incredible-moment-SpaceXs-droneship-Ms-Tree-perfectly-catches-rocket-fairing.html
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Scoot O.
Fear is the big one. While we have posted hundreds of news blurbs that we chuckle and find ridiculously beyond absurd, fear is behind it all. Trump is not going to relinquish power, a shoelace inadvertently dropped from a pocket becomes a Klan noose, a tank at the Washington Mall for the 4th of July becomes the onset of martial law, ad infinitum. Oh, we call it TDS or Addicted to Outrage or losing their ever loving minds, but fear is behind it all.
As Robert Cross once put it so concisely, ‘I am afraid you are coming to get me and are going to march me up against the wall.’ Well stated. Fear. Overriding fear. Terror.
Last night after glancing at Newbusters to see what new things the foaming at the mouth hyperventilating meltdown crowd on the MSNBC-CNN-Network-NYT cabal were saying, I saw pure unadulterated fear across the board. Fear is the big one.
“Fear and hatred of people not like yourself” is an old statement by Steve, oft used now by all the sock puppets. The projection of their own fear and hatred is so thick now that one cannot cut it with a knife.
Exhibit A is Dr. Rebane’s update to Scattershots; the mob driven by fear and hatred.
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Here another source identifying the problem in our society.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/27/mass-shooters-absent-fathers-link-ignored-anti-gun/
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Jig Wiggly | 07 August 2019 at 08:03 AM
Actually Jighead it is you that is denying science. I am all in on proven science. You believe those computer models based on human input not based on truth. And please tell us why the west is so much cooler now. Is that weather or climate? You see you can fool yourself drinking your Koolaid but you can’t fool we who are your mental betters.
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Hey….! Somebody pull the string in Jigglys neck again……I need more proglodyte grandiosity by association!
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@8:26 am
Fatherless homes. A reason a young man joins gangs to fill the void….as single mothers are in their knees daily praying that their boys never grow up to be gangbangers. It’s the reason Treyvon Martin’s mom sent him out of the city to be with his father in the burbs that summer.
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ScottO 7:39am – Does this qualify as “left wing projection” Scotty? https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/aug/06/prosecutor-man-body-slammed-boy-after-national-ant/
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Bill 7:40
As Robert Cross once put it so concisely, ‘I am afraid you are coming to get me and are going to march me up against the wall.
Sorry Bill, I don’t recall ever saying that. Do you have the source for that or 1) you are mistaken me for someone else or 2) you made it up.
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this whole ‘fatherless home’ argument is just another right wing bullshit dodge and NRA talking point and a sorry attempt to place the blame for gun violence on something/someone other than the real culprit…easy access to firearms where virtually any nutcase can get an assault rifle.
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Crabbman
It’s not just Montana, it’s Cranberry, Connecticut as well.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49329/watch-hockey-coachs-viral-message-players-about-james-barrett
Hey, isn’t Montana the place where a guy running for reelection body slammed a reporter? That’s how we used to settle our differences…before Antifa. Sleepy Joe is old school. He is going to take Trump behind the school house dude it out mano e mano, no weapons allowed. Me and Julio down by the schoolyard.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/happened-republican-greg-gianforte-body-slammed-reporter/story?id=58610691
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Maybe a few body slams will get their attention? LOL! The left treated me and others at a free speech rally with pepper spray in the face and water bottles thrown at us. We did not respond in kind. But when the Bikers for Trump arrived from Montana, thsoe heros of Crabb fled and cried like little babies. And they were never touched.
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@ 9:18 am
It was you. Months ago. There are so many things Punchy,…er…Roberta does not remember saying. Fear messes with everything.
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Right on Robert. 9:26.
Worth repeating: “this whole ‘fatherless home’ argument is just another right wing bullshit dodge and NRA talking point and a sorry attempt to place the blame for gun violence on something/someone other than the real culprit…”
Of course there are countless examples where entire swaths of military age men were removed from a society and the fatherless kids didn’t grow up to be mass murderers. I said that before, but the COJ remain fixated on NRA talking points.
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Mr. Cross obviously can’t read. The author of the book regarding mass shootings and fatherless homes was written by a Democrat and active feminist. Silly progressives. Reading is fundamental. 😂
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RL 905am – Body slamming a 13-year-old is dumb for a number of reasons. But does this citation equal things out between the atrocious things the Right and Left visit on each other?
RobertC 926am – “this whole ‘fatherless home’ argument is just another right wing bullshit dodge …” The literature on how fatherless homes shape young men is now vast beyond comprehension. Every such study replicates previous results. The Left destroyed the black family and made it financially rewarding for single young females to get pregnant and give birth to one or more meal tickets from the government. For that they got ballot box loyalty and a perennial plantation. And, of course, the inevitable bloodshed which is now denied pro forma as being the result of Great Society ad nauseum. Their narrative must not let the accusing finger point back at the source.
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Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 07 August 2019 at 09:50 AM
Sorry chief…….eliminating guns from society……that ship has sailed! Nice try though!
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Wanna get a grip? Start with reality. Start with the two commonalities in every single mass shooting,
Often but not always, there’s no father in the home.
Often but not always, the shooter has few or no friends and nothing resembling a real support network.
Often but not always, the shooter is unemployed or barely employed.
Often but not always, the shooter has some mental-health issue, sometimes formally diagnosed, sometimes not.
Often but not always, the shooter played violent video games.
Often but not always, the shooter was active on extremist or Columbine-focused chat boards or had a noticeable interest in or obsession with previous mass shootings.
Often but not always, the shooter has gotten in trouble in school or has been kicked out of school.
And then in every single case, has convinced himself that he is the real victim of powerful forces beyond his control, and that the only remaining option he sees for defiance is shooting as many random people as possible in a public place.
And in every single case, the shooter manages to get his hands on a gun — sometimes legally purchasing them, sometimes stealing them or taking them from someone else.
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“Of course there are countless examples where entire swaths of military age men were removed from a society and the fatherless kids didn’t grow up to be mass murderers.”
Like WWII? Those military aged men 17+ years old never got married and never had kids for the most part. The birth rate fell dramatically then. And it’s not just fatherless kids, as I’ve pointed out.
A fatherless kid in the 40s who sassed an adult got the crap knocked out of them by any passing dad. Try that now. There’s been a whole societal change in many ways and it’s been almost always for the worst. The stats and the correlation of aimless boys growing up today without proper male and female adult supervision is destroying our nation. Natural youthful male aggression used to be understood and channeled constructively or at least dealt with by fathers, coaches, teachers and the like. Nowadays society tries to sweep it under the rug or deny it’s existence. No wonder there is such a row about ‘toxic’ male behaviour. Society just tries to tamp it all down and demand that boys act like girls.
Folks like Jigg-head don’t want to really look at the issue of young American white males committing mass murder. Because it started long before ‘assault’ rifles and Trump.
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WWII? How about 2019? How many war ravaged countries have lost a significant fraction of fathers? In how many countries are random, mass shootings a weekly occurrence?
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The mob ruled the nyt –
Former Clinton Pollster Mark Penn: For New York Times ‘to Cave’ on Trump Headline ‘Will Haunt Them’
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-clinton-pollster-mark-penn-140352099.html
😉
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jiggly 1152am
“random, mass shootings” aren’t a weekly occurrence here, either.
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Gregory, my bad. We only have a mass shooting every 12.7 days. Feel better now?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/deadly-mass-shootings-month-2019/story?id=63449799
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RL 905am and GR 1005am
An adult body slamming a child of 13 is more than dumb, it’s criminal unless it’s necessary to stop the kid from harming another.
That said, how much jail time they should get depends upon the facts of the matter… wait until the verbal exchange between them is known.
And George, yes, the citation has nothing to do with the situations being discussed here, it’s just another content free shallow hit and run snark from an angry ‘toonist.
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Society was different in the past. People valued lives and it wasn’t a “do your own thing, let it all hang out” culture.
Come to think about it, when the GIs came home after WW2, some got into teaching and retired just about the time the public schools started going downhill. When they retired, there went the neighborhood. Then respect for others went out the window and now the closest shithole to us here in Whitey Town is the nearest public school.
How did the sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll work out? Do your own thang. Everything is relative.
Guns are just the symptom of a sickness brought on as a direct result to implementing Leftinista values. Unmoored from the anchors that formerly worked and held it all together. Adrift in the ocean, rudderless, tossed by every wave to and fro.. Instant gratification….like a rolling stone with no direction home. Lost at sea.
It takes a rather huge honking lack of self awareness to whine about blaming others for the recent shootings considering we have been carpet bombed for the past few days with “Its all Trump fault!” It’s all the NRA’s fault. What’s next? The shooters fingers jumped off his hands and jumped on the trigger all by their,lonesome.
So ahead and look at the symptoms till the cows come home while the cooler heads seek the root causes.
I am so glad we are not like them. They call for unity while ripping others to sheds.
“Obama promoted the lie of “systemic” anti-black police discrimination against blacks.
During his second term, 2 cops in NY, 3 in Baton Rouge and 5 in Dallas were murdered, execution style, by black men motivated, per their posts on social media, by their belief in this lie.
DID MEDIA BLAME OBAMA?” The Sage of South Central.
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Bill-
Oh, no Bill. No one blamed Obama. The white folk praised him high and low and turned a varicosed cheek each and every time they could have blamed Obama. Are you friggin’ brain dead? Oh yeah, the KKK is a gardening club.
Rep. Roger Williams (R-Texas) decried in a statement what he characterized as the “spread of misinformation and constant instigation by prominent leaders, including our president” who, he added, “contributed to the modern day hostility we are witnessing between the police and those they serve. As a result, today we are seeing one of the noblest professions condemned by those who could benefit the most.”
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