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[Interesting discussion from the last sandbox on Baltimore, shithole cities, and the misguided attack on Kushner and other investors in companies willing to provide housing in crime and drug infested ghettos.  The simple-minded accuse such investors of being "slumlords" with the same logic that investors (like me) can be accused of causing the opioid epidemic by investing in pharma companies or killing women and children in the mid-east wars by investing in defense industries.  Go figger.  gjr]

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292 responses to “Sandbox – 2aug19”

  1. Scott O Avatar

    The Wiggly Pig is back again to demonstrate his stupidity.
    “Trump-inspired white supremest shooters are becoming a dime a dozen, yet EVERY FUCKING TIME you have an excuse that “He’s not one of us.” Bullshit.”
    “Trump Inspired”?
    When has Trump ever encouraged or urged anyone to violence?
    Oh, that’s right – never.
    Look folks – it appears (we have yet to make sure) that this guy is upset about what is happening to our country. You’re going to tell me that any Dem running for POTUS will make it better?
    No – it will make it worse and they’ll be more violence. If the Dems control the country, people like this nut case really will be “dime a dozen”.
    For real fun, cruise on over to DK – the comments there verge on hysteria.
    I know – why don’t we all make funny pictures of Trump with his bloody head cut off – that will certainly improve our nation!

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  2. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 612 pm
    Just as I thought we were finally done with Baltimore, you pull me right in. It’s not my fault. Nice pics.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7315563/Baltimore-account-millions-drugs-danger-yes-rats-lurk-corner.html?
    Mystery solved. Now we know where all those fleeing Baltimore are heading.
    https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156567351495914/?type=3&source=54&ref=page_internal

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  3. fish Avatar
  4. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 03 August 2019 at 06:00 PM
    Kind of cold there Todd. I think I am on record here multiple times saying no violence, and particularly no politically motivated violence, is ever warranted.
    You on the other hand are on record here supporting drawing guns on federal law enforcement engaged in the lawful exercise of their duties.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 6;52 pm
    Aha! ‘Tis true, tis true. Marianne is a Russian plant. They got to Tulsi as well, Their master plan is unfolding before our eyes. Putin is trying to disarm the populace before the Rooskies come marching in. Saul Alinsky would be so proud. He was quite impressed with how the mob operated. Is Alinsky still alive? Opps, I believe so. Ok, Saul Alinsky is thrilled. It’s been a long wait. Putin is smiling too. They have waited longer.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    That many are gunned down in Chicago and Detroit every weekend.
    It hardly makes the news.
    And what’s the first thing out of a Proggy’s mouth? “BAN GUNS!!!”
    Cowards like this go to places they know damned well they will get little resistance.
    Not one Proggy has had the balls to answer my simple question.
    “How did the N.Z. gun buyback go?” Since the spineless sent in the crickets,,, they didn’t get the HUGE pile they expected. Funny how that works.
    You clowns go right ahead with the “ban guns” crap. Every background check you can dream up will not stop nuts like this.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Joe make up shit again.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/joe-biden-vows-to-beat-the-nra-following-el-paso-shooting/
    “Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) vowed to take on the National Rifle Association (NRA) following the deadly shooting in El Paso Saturday, telling a crowd of supporters that he has beaten it before and intends to do so again.”
    And the NRA just got more new members.

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  8. Scott O Avatar

    What a laugh – “I think I am on record here multiple times saying no violence, and particularly no politically motivated violence, is ever warranted.”
    Yet he only shows up here to huff and puff about it when it might score him some political points.
    No one here is for murdering innocent people, Stevie.
    You have some really fine-tuned highly selective outrage going there. Let’s all make a big checkmark next to Steve’s name in the virtue-signaling box.

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  9. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 03 August 2019 at 07:16 PM
    That many are gunned down in Chicago and Detroit every weekend.
    It hardly makes the news.

    Progressives seem to have real difficulties with rate vs total. Today’s El Paso total….two slightly above average weekends in Chicongo.
    And it is as you say…..barely a peep. Of course it could be reticence in discussing high kill counts in progressive controlled area with unusually strict gun control. Might make people think that merely scribbling words on paper might not always work as advertised.

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  10. Scott O Avatar

    I love that standard brain-dead leftist line about vowing to ‘take on’ the National Rifle Association.
    Just what is Joe actually proposing to do?
    What do any of them propose to do?
    It’s like Jiggly and his ‘gun control’ baloney.
    Just what, exactly, do these idiots propose?
    All I hear is spittle-blowing, F bombs and lies.
    Get back to me when there’s some oxygen back in your brain and you can construct logical, coherent sentences.

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    PS:
    Fish was right yesterday. Jiggler has been rather cranky lately. And going off on Senum last night? Was was that all about? And previously going off on that self “lamenting lesbian” Hillary Hodgepodge, not to mention Miss Bonnie. They all are cis-gender and not one of them will date him. Guess they ain’t into non-binaries. Come to think of it, Jiggles has not been the same since Ms. Campbell was going through that mess divorce. Oh well. Some things are best left up to Providence.
    Some people don’t take kindly to their imaginary friends getting the boot.
    Boy, Jigger, you really blew your top today. I could feel the fire coming right through my internet machine. I think you owe this whole group an apology. Now, now, don’t be like Oberlin College. Just say “sorry, I will try to keep it in check.” Short and sweet. The first step is the hardest, but with practice, it comes naturally.

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  12. Scott O Avatar

    Here’s a good sampling –
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/2020-democrat-candidates-react-to-el-paso-massacre-outlaw-assault-style-weapons/
    Check out the ‘solutions’.
    None.
    Just table pounding and virtue signaling.
    Well – there is Marianne –
    “We must outlaw all assault style weapons for civilian use. Even then, there will still be millions of them on the street. Next we need to outlaw the manufacture and sale of the bullets that they carry.”
    Because murder is only bad when you use scary guns!

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Jiggles has not been the same since Ms. Campbell was going through that mess divorce. Oh well. Some things are best left up to Providence……
    Pish posh…….inquiring minds want to know about Jig and Rocks mandate at Jigs Tahoe place!!
    How’d everything go lads?

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Hmmm. When Rock Hunter was talking about bobbing back across the imaginary line was he referring to bromancing with Jeffry at the Lake and was he also referring to the state line?
    —————
    I think Marianne should lead a march on the NRA and form a human chain around the building and blast the HQ of the Forces of Evi with the higher power of love. Way better than Thunderdome.
    Too bad Omar, Nancy, that crazy lady in the cowboy hat, and a bunch of others are currently in Italy. Messes with speaking from the House steps in this National Political Emergency, lol.
    Opened the internet machine this morning and the first thing I saw a nice pic of a bunch of them standing in front of some non-descript old building in Italy. The crazy lady was wearing a purple cowboy hat and appeared to be feeling no pain. They be on some kind fact finding mission. Race back home…..nah, party one.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Steven Frisch | 03 August 2019 at 07:03 PM
    You totally missed the point. You don’t condemn lefty manifesto killers and you know it. That says to me and others that you condone violence against conservatives. Run but you can’t hide. You support killers and you have been exposed.
    And your assertion about Bundy? Another loser for your limited memory. Never said I supported killing anyone. I do support the right as written in the Second Amendment which you don’t. And the Second ws created just for that Bundy scenario.

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 03 August 2019 at 08:00 PM
    Hmmm. When Rock Hunter was talking about bobbing back across the imaginary line was he referring to bromancing with Jeffry at the Lake …..

    Rock also said that “Jiggly” paid as much in taxes as any three of us! This might be true….but I doubt that publishing a vanity bird cage liner magazine throws off that much in taxes.
    Wonder if Jiggly is Steve’s patron?

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “The power of ‘A People’s History of the United States’ to inspire violent action should not be underestimated after the ICE attack of Antifa supporter Willem Van Spronsen.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/26/howard-zinns-anti-american-textbook-inspired-antifa-bombing-attempt/

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  18. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The last background gun bill signed by Congress in March had Gaaby prominently displayed front and center in front of all the mics and cameras and was tickled pink with all the hard work to get it through. The tragedy left unspoken was that most recent historic landmark bill would not have prevented her own shooting and the death of those around her.
    Remember how beyond pissed AOC was when the R’s snuck one bye her on some Homeland Security Bill with the provision that it was a crime for illegals who failed to pass a background check to get a gun, roflmao She was hotter than a goats butt in a pepper patch. No one is illegal and R’s hate brown people. Welcome to Washington. Gotta keep ‘em in check.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Stevey speaking ill of the Bundy standoff?
    The 2ND Amenedment worked as planned there Steve. Tyranny was held at bay that week by today’s “minute men”.(and women)
    Or do you care to rewrite the story on that as well?
    Harry Reid’s storm troopers had to back down, and even lost in court. An ILLEGAL action by the FED gov. And dead FEDS would have been justified. And the blood would have been on LIB hands.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    Methinks there’s plenty going on to hyperventilate about various public policies of the Left and Right. Some of you are starting to get off the straight and narrow again.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    A Lefty that sides with Trump?
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/debbie-dingle-trump-china-democrats-2020-debates
    Her days are now numbered.
    “Rep. Debbie Dingle, D-Mich., expressed her disappointment with the way 2020 Democrats handled major economic and urban issues at the second round of Democratic primary debates.
    “I was very disappointed when they left Detroit,” the Michigan congresswoman said while appearing on “Cavuto Live” on Saturday. She said that the debate focused too much on “one-line practiced jabs” rather than issues that affected cities and the heartland.
    Trade, in particular, was missing from the debates, Dingel argued. Dingel, who predicted President Trump had a shot at winning in 2016, said she backed his tough talk on China and thought the trade issue helped him win the White House.
    “Some of the things he’s doing are tools in the box to try to help American workers play on a level playing field,” she said.”
    The game of “I can go farther Left than you” is all that matters.

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  22. Walt Avatar

    A warning to LIBS with ANTIFA snot nosed brats. Better keep them on a leash.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/03/texas-gov-antifa-el-paso/
    ““I was looking at a story recently in the last couple days where Antifa is posting they want to come to El Paso and do a 10-day siege. Clear message to Antifa: Stay out of El Paso. Stay out of Texas, basically. We don’t need them coming in on Sept. 1,” Patrick, a Republican, told Fox News.
    “We didn’t need them to begin with before this happened,” he said. “I would say to Antifa, scratch Texas off the map and don’t come in. It’s not the time and place for them to come at any time, particularly in aftermath of what happened in El Paso.” “

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  23. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The Wal-Mart Manifesto. Interesting read once you get past the first part. AI, mass unemployment, destruction of the environment, recycling capacity a joke, corporations owning our government, college indebtedness, importing millions of D voters, turning the USA into a permanent one party state, curses on R’s and D’s, Government won’t be able to handle all the social programs and ensuring civil unrest after Al with Universal Basic Income, too many skilled immigrants will be competing for good jobs exasperating the problem. Reads like the Christchurch shooter’s manifesto and inspiration (catalyst?).
    https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @9:08 pm
    Sorry Doc. I will try to keep it in check.
    Manifest con’t.
    Did I mention not enough resources, using up too many resources from Mother Earth, sustainability, US imperialistic wars…corporations are working in self interest to the detriment of our future and Q of L.
    Boy, he has something for everybody. Well, I always said it is impossible for socialism (or sustainability) to work with open borders and the Agenda 21 folks always said that we have to reduce the number of people for it to work. Yes, reminds me a lot of the Christchurch manifesto, except instead of being for written for Europe, this one is for America.

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    Beto Ties Trump to El Paso Shooting — ‘He Is a Racist, and He Stokes Racism in This Country’

    Sorry Robert Francis……still not going to help you! Of course it looks like Steve has found his candidate!
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/08/03/beto-ties-trump-to-el-paso-shooting-he-is-a-racist-and-he-stokes-racism-in-this-country/

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Progressives seem to have real difficulties with rate vs total. Today’s El Paso and Ohio totals ……two three slightly above average weekends in Chicongo.

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  27. fish Avatar
    fish

    They just aren’t making cops like they used to it seems…..

    ”Portland woman allegedly beat police officer with his own baton”

    #…..I got nuthin
    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/08/portland-woman-allegedly-beat-police-officer-with-his-own-baton.html

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    The hand making AOCs mouth move…..

    ”But they funneled more than $1 million in political donations into two private companies that Chakrabarti also incorporated and controlled, according to Federal Election Commission filings and a complaint filed in March with the regulatory agency.
    In 2016 and 2017, the PACs raised about $3.3 million, mostly from small donors. A third of the cash was transferred to two private companies whose names are similar to one of the PACs — Brand New Congress LLC and Brand New Campaign LLC — federal campaign filings show. -New York Post

    Oh we’ll miss you…..and you ability to eat an apple through the boards of a picket fence.
    Maybe back to tending bar……honorable work at least!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-04/and-here-it-aocs-just-resigned-chief-staff-under-federal-investigation

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  29. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Waiting for Walt or Russ to say something about all of our recent mass gunnings. “It ain’t the political climate, it’s only da weather. It ain’t man caused, cause it’s a natural cycle. Then George can chime in “Here, I’ll draw you a chart.”

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    At first I thought this was something from the Onion, but upon closer examination I see it is from a legit site. Man, being liberal means having absolutely no shame. You can’t shame a psychopath. It’s what makes Lefties so unique.
    Run Creepy Porn Lawyer, run!
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/03/michael-avenatti-is-mulling-a-2020-run-for-president-again.html

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Sure jigger.. Outlaw Proggys from owning guns.
    How many dead in gun free LIBtown this weekend?

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Racism.
    Who cares what color the murderer is? It is evil and should be treated as such. But now we see people trying to claim that the President’s tweets are setting these people off. But we who actually have a brain know that is totally bogus. There were mass shootings during the eight years of Obama and the press never once said his rhetoric or skin color was a reason. The media is corrupt as their articles are opinion pieces filled with words and intentions they create. We who voted for Trump and Trump himself are not racists. Ben Carson, a black man said that this week yet you never published that did you SacBee? There is evil in the world and it is color blind. Chicago loses more people to murder in a weekend yet you lovelies never cover that or call their Mayor a racist. Why is that? America deserves better than your reporting of your opinions as news. Until you do you leave one half of the country disbelieving all you write and you force us to seek the truth elsewhere. If everything is racist then nothing is racist. NOW we see you trashing Reagan as a racist. Did you see the chain of custody for your tapes? Did you question why after all these years these “tapes” were released? Did you challenge their authenticity? Could they be fake and you got fooled? Please stop with the racial divide you are perpetrating and help create hope and togetherness. But you can’t apparently. You all are liars and charlatans and we don’t have any use for you.

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    Who would deny that the increase in mass shootings have nothing to do with the evolving political climate? Of course they do; everything in the national conversation revolves around its politics du jour in one way or another. And there are at least as many political/politicized interpretations of any given issue as there are interpreters. According to an old Jewish aphorism, there may even be more – ‘Two Jews, three opinions.’

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 04 August 2019 at 08:27 AM
    Shouldn’t you out doing something…..anything?

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  35. Walt Avatar

    The anti gun Left sure have their heads where the sun don’t shine.
    So the Commies running for President want to “outlaw the weapons of war”.. And next on the crazy list is the “bullets they shoot!” Well, when the 2ND Amendment was written, the musket was the current “weapon of war”. So was the “ammo”.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/2020-democrat-candidates-react-to-el-paso-massacre-outlaw-assault-style-weapons/

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 04 August 2019 at 09:38 AM
    “This is what the Left is all about today,” wrote author Tarek Fatah. “Ho Chi Minh and Rosa Luxemburg just rolled in their graves.”
    Socialism……First as Tragedy, then as Farce!

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 04 August 2019 at 09:48 AM
    I wonder if they’ve given any thought to how many people they’re going to make rich once they outlaw guns?

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  38. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    ‘Two Jews, three opinions.’ – Dr. Rebane
    I like that better than “if you put 10 economists in a room, you’ll get 11 opinions.”
    Once again, the duration of these shootings is the length of time until the 2nd gun arrives. Don’t leave your cave without your club.
    Did anyone notice that the Wal-Mart manifesto sounded so much like something Bernie, Ralph Nader, or Robert Cross would say. No matter the question or topic, it all gets back to corporations.
    All in all, the Manifesto did not say anything that think tanks, studies, pundits, and numerous others from of all political persuasions have previously released on a whole range of topics from crony capitalism to Al to culture to the environment.
    When reading it, I constantly would say within myself “that is something the Green Party would say, that is something this or that historian would say, that is something would say, that is something Code Pink would say, that is something so and so would say. That is something so and so would say about beyond the tipping point. Picking soft targets is something Islamic cells or would advocate and security gurus have warned about…on and on it goes. Just an observation.
    ————-
    The guy who shot up the pizza place in D.C.: Do we think of him as a right-wing activist, or insane?” Garrow asked.
    “Garrow was similarly critical of the FBI’s use of the term “black identity extremists” and related attempts to ascribe incidents like the 2016 shooting of six police officers in Baton Rouge, La., to black radicalism. He said the shooter, Gavin Long, had a history of mental health problems. “The bureau’s presumption — the mindset — is to see ideological motives where most of the rest of us see individual nuttiness,” he said.
    “For Garrow, the historian, the FBI’s expansive definition has its roots in bureau paranoia that dates back decades. “I think it’s their starting point,” he said. “This goes all the way back to the Hoover era without question. They see ideology as a central motivating factor in human life, and they don’t see mental health issues as a major factor.”
    “Yet trying to label a specific belief system as prone to violence is problematic, he said.
    “I don’t think most of us would do a good job in predicting what sort of wacky information could lead someone to violence, or not lead anyone to violence,” Garrow said. “Pizzagate would be a great example of that.”
    https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-documents-conspiracy-theories-terrorism-160000507.html

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Being woke has its risks.
    Gillette CEO: $8 billion loss is ‘price worth paying’ over #MeToo campaign
    “In January, Gillette ran the short film “We Believe: The Best Men Can Be” which took on “toxic masculinity” and the #MeToo movement. Some criticized the ad for “virtue signaling” and making broad generalizations about male behavior. In May, Gillette also ran an ad depicting a man teaching his transgender son how to shave for the first time.
    “It was pretty stark: we were losing share, we were losing awareness and penetration, and something had to be done,” he said, adding they decided to “take a chance in an emotionally-charged way.”
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gillette-ceo-8-billion-loss-is-price-worth-paying-over-metoo-campaign

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    I’m not sure which statement is sillier….”Thoughts and prayers” again or Senator Brown calling for more “Sensible gun safety” laws…..

    ”We are also angry – angry that shooting after shooting, politicians in Washington and Columbus refuse to pass sensible gun-safety laws to protect our communities.”We are still learning about the attack in Dayton and we don’t know exactly what, if anything, could have prevented this specific tragedy.”But we know thoughts and prayers are not enough, we have a responsility to act.”

    We don’t know what caused it but we have a responsibility to act and act boldly to make it look like we have matters in hand!
    Thanks Sherrod.

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  41. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    22 mass shooting the US since January. About one a week. I’ve heard nothing but excuses here about why they’ve occurred and of course have absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s hate stirring rhetoric or the NRA.
    How about one of you experts make some suggestions how to stop these mass shootings. Bill seems fascinated with manifestos and Walt with anything long and hard that goes bang. Put you collective head together and come up with a plan. Anything better than “thoughts and prayers”?
    I’ll get some popcorn while the personal attacks fly for even asking such a question.

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  42. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Seems the killers are from all walks of life and political leanings. Many post on social media. Why don’t you start a company to identify these potential killers JIG and help out the country?

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 04 August 2019 at 11:29 AM
    We are a violent nation jig…..get used to it.

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  44. Scott O Avatar

    from the addled Wigged out Pig – “Bill seems fascinated with manifestos…”
    Yeah – the very idea of looking into the facts and reasons as to why these killings occur…
    You’re the one who showed up here sputtering and fuming – why don’t you provide an answer?
    Been plenty of nut cases shooting up the place when Obama was pres.
    If you want to blame Trump, you have to point to something he said or did to encourage folks to murder.
    As for the NRA – When have they ever encouraged folks to murder?
    Never.
    But facts and reason are just ‘ultra’ right wing talking points.
    As to what my ‘solution’ is to the problem…
    Well, I’ve got bad news for you bunky. It’s been going on for centuries and it ain’t going to stop no matter what you do. All we can do is try to lessen the number of occurrences. Posturing, scape-goating people or organizations without a factual basis and virtue signaling do no good as has been proven for decades.
    We’ve passed hundreds of ‘common sense’ guns laws that were predicted to do no good and all the left can do is demand more of the same.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    Looks like background noise in Progtopia…..

    More Mass Shootings? 4 Dead, 38 Wounded In ‘Normal’ Weekend In Chicago

    “Normal Weekend”??? That’s downright quiet for Chiraq!

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  46. Bill Toxer Avatar
    Bill Toxer

    Jiggles gets so impatient and demands we say just the right words. Obama knew exactly how to feel Jiggly’s pain. He wants his ewok back.
    I am still struck on Walt’s socialist convention link. Hilarious. Can’t focus on anything else. I can visualize those jazz hands flailing wildly in the air when triggered. Oh my.
    Profiling;
    https://www.facebook.com/551620308660281/posts/559482744540704/

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  47. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Come on guys, he’s waiting, he is waiting.
    https://images.app.goo.gl/CoF3kkE2sT9LWocE9

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  48. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Todd 11:34
    Be careful what you wish for. You are the only one here who has out right called for people to be killed. If AI is profiling potential perps, you might have a red line under your name.

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