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Sandbox – 2aug19

[Interesting discussion from the last sandbox on Baltimore, shithole cities, and the misguided attack on Kushner and other investors in companies willing to provide housing in crime and drug infested ghettos.  The simple-minded accuse such investors of being "slumlords" with the same logic that investors (like me) can be accused of causing the opioid epidemic by investing in pharma companies or killing women and children in the mid-east wars by investing in defense industries.  Go figger.  gjr]

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  1. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Gee – speaking of shop-lifting…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Hayashi
    Cause everyone gets ‘distracted’ and walks out the door with $2,400 without paying.
    Boy – I’ll bet that fine really hurt. $180!!!
    Black kids in her district get thrown in the pokey for way less.
    Keep it up, Wiggly – you just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.

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  2. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    I sure wish I found this before I went to the land of my ancestors.
    You history lovers will like this.
    http://www.ancientpenwith.org/ancientsites.html
    https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1t4kDv6TMFeMgD0dyYTKyeF0STnM&ll=50.29005176380176%2C-5.1302220666218545&z=9
    Now back to the regularly scheduled TROLL kicking,

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    To be fair, the Twin Cities do not have a rat problem. Well, I mean that the Twin Cities do not have a rodent problem, if you catch my drift.
    —————
    Per Walt’s fantastic 4:05 pm link; Best run cities.
    Looks like CA scores 100% on the worse roads for big cities in the entire 57 (Obamaspeak) states. 5 out of 5 for the worse roads. Batting a thousand. Not to mention taking the prize for being at top of the turd pile for the worse 5 smoggiest cities, all run by liberal veghead banana brain Socialists greenies.
    Predictions: Trump is loaded, armed with facts, and ready to pounce on CA. Did you notice his tweet about “what happened to the highway funds “ for our terrible roads BEFORE he launched into the terrible shithole cities run by Demorats and all those missing billions that they can’t account for. What did they do with all that HUD money? What did they do with the 16 billion in HUD community block grants alone in 2018 or the 1.6 billion more this year? Hmmm. Riddle me that, Graft Man.
    Prediction: When the time comes and the moment is right, Trump will ask what happened to all those highway funds and gas taxes that were supposed to go to fixing our roads in CA??????? Place is run like a shithole. Terrible.
    Yea, what happened to those funds? Were they spent on the Leftinista Brown Streak pipe dreams nonsense and windmills, or simply used to meet payroll and benefits for the slackers on the government dime? Maybe to pay all those thousands who meet once or twice a year to sit on state commissions. Doling our the favors. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. Where is the accountability?
    Boy, Democrat controlled shitholes are looking more and more like that shithole Puerto Rico. I can hear the popinjays now: “Oh the poor people. It’s not their fault that their Democrat leaders stole all the money meant for them. Cut another check. It’s not their fault.” Come on, cut more checks and keep the corruption gravy train rolling. Come on, let’s get back to normal. Trump is a racist! And a bully!!

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  4. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Tozer-
    Speaking of mentally ill women. Check out Pelline’s for a press release by Senum written in the third person about . . . Senum.
    It appears that a cloud of collective amnesia has settled over this group. The topic was started by Paul:
    “George, Can you name a few Republican led cities that are being governed in a manner that you approve? You know what I mean, the opposite of a shit hole in your view.
    Rebane’s 5:30 “I’m not aware of any large urban areas that have been under Republican governance for any length of time.”
    Followed by my aid to Rebane’s ignorance, “Jacksonville”.
    But of course that is all forgotten in the rush to obfuscate Paul’s query and Rebane’s reply. The Republican way.

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  5. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Nice try jiggles. So you tossed out Jacksonville. BFD. No stats. Nope, that didn’t stick to the wall. Now pull and Emery and change the subject.(again)

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  6. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Re shithole cities – what point are our progressives here trying to make? that Republican led cities are equally blighted to those under Democrat control? Now that’s a very large crock.
    And what is the point about Jacksonville anyway? Here’s a list of the 25 highest crime rate cities in the land. I don’t see Jacksonville on it.
    https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/travel/experience/america/2018/10/17/25-most-dangerous-cities-america/1669467002/
    https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2019-07-30-the-most-violent-cities-in-america-are-all-run-by-democrats/

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  7. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    What is the point about Jacksonville anyway? Doo Dah, Doo Dah.
    Rebane’s 5:30 “I’m not aware of any large urban areas that have been under Republican governance for any length of time.”
    Does Jacksonville count as a large urban area under Republican governance or do you simply choose to gaslight Paul when he brings up something that discomforts your state of right wing bliss?

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  8. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Yeah – what the wiggly pig said!
    Go back and read his 6:07 – It turns out Jacksonville is not the largest city in the US and all the rest is just spittle blowing.
    No facts or stats.
    Jacksonville is run by not-Democrats.
    So?
    We were talking about the vast majority of major shit-hole cities in this country run by Democrats.
    And the left can’t deny the facts or come up with any factual counter other than to point out that the 5th largest city in the US by area is controlled by Rs.
    OK.
    So?

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Jigger
    I will have to take your word for it. I refuse, refuse I say, to ever peek at Fat Fuk’s blog again. Last time I checked it out he had a picture of a glass of water with a fruit slice. Big picture front and center. Whole story on the glass of water. It was in Italy or somewhere and instead of nice scenery of the area, the shit for brains took a picture of a glass of water and wrote a column about it!,!!!! Unbelievable. Who does that? That is not normal. Freaky. Fly all the way to Europe and features a glass of water. I guess it’s better than having to look at him on the beach. Always a silver lining.
    But, Mr. Smith (joe and jon), you missed the key qualifier again, per your diminished capacity, Mr. Handicap Man. The key is run by “Democrats for a long long time” Take San Diego. It goes right, it goes left. Pete Wilson town. Probably blue now with a mixed city council. Mixed with turnovers, left and right. UCSD is not UC Berkeley. Whole different universe. Heck, that San Diego region was where in 2014 the citizens went out to block the buses of unaccomphanied minors Obama flew in, that race hustler. And the San Diego keeps the illegals moving on. Keep moving. Send them to LA and get the criminal element out of that area. When the SD big fires hit, it was calm and orderly…as opposed to shithole cities when disaster strikes. Big difference.
    Austin is now a blue city, as is Denver. But, we don’t call them shitholes because they have not been run by brain dead liberals for 50 years. It takes years to destroy a nice American city. What the heck happened to St Louis? Memphis? Charm City? Someday Denver will be the outhouse of the old west…but it takes time. That’s the key.
    I cannot think of one big city run by Republican for long long stretches of time that is a National Embarrassment like EVERY single city run for a couple of generations by Tin Foil Hat corrupt Leftinistas. Sorry, I can’t think of one. I would not be surprised if there is one or two out there out of a couple hundred big cities. There is always an anomaly. Always one in every large crowd….just like His Lardship. Without weird one-offs, we would not have the freak shows at traveling circuses or His Assholiness. I
    But, knock yourself out and send reports back from The FUE’s non-blog. I just don’t get woodies over a pic or a glass of water. If I did, Insure as heck would not share it with the world, cherry picker.
    .

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  10. Scott O Avatar
    Scott O

    Wow – It turns out that Jacksonville is not a shit hole and it’s run by Republicans.
    So – just what is the point, here?
    Paul got his question answered, The Pig exposed his stupidity once again, and we’re good!

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  11. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Jacksonville. #95 on the list.
    Stockton.#145.. #5 biggest shithole on the list.
    I bet jigg for brains didn’t even look at the list.

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  12. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Well,, looks like a new breed of Democrat voter is in the works.
    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/08/02/report-spanish-biologist-working-human-monkey-hybrids-china/
    “Technology Review reported on Thursday, citing major Spanish newspaper El País, that biologist Juan Carlos Izpisua Belmonte, who presently works out of the Salk Institute in California, is working with Chinese scientists to create “human-animal chimeras” composed of human cells injected into monkey embryos.”

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The point here is rather than Punchy looking at the stats and facts, he does what he always does: deflect. When you pin him down, he says he will get back to you….and never does. I just attribute it to the poor tortured soul going through life with one oar in the water. Elevator does not go all the way to the top. Maybe the boxer took one to many blows to the head and was left with permanent brain damage. It’s not that uncommon. And, it’s not nice to pick on the mentally challenged. It’s not his fault, he seems to have been born that way.
    To borrow a line from the Sage of South Central (another shithole)….
    Q: “You would agree that 2 + 2= 4?”‬
    ‪A. “Oh, stop with the republican talking points.”‬
    Change my mind.
    ‪

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Detroit City Motown
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zwGTlpBHs7Y

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  15. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Is ‘liberal logic’ an oxymoron?

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “The trouble with Trump’s tweets about Baltimore is they that they are true
    But rather than focus on whether or not Trump is a racist, how about we focus on the man’s words? Are they true?
    Yes, they are.
    In all, Cummings has represented Baltimore for 36 years.
    In 2017, 13 high schools in the city of Baltimore were found to have zero students — not a single one — who were proficient in math. And out of the 3,804 students in all who took the state math proficiency test, only 14 were proficient.
    Baltimore’s schools perform this poorly despite the fact that residents of Baltimore pay 3.2% city income tax, the maximum local income tax rate allowed by state law in an already high-tax state. Take that as further proof that throwing money at problems doesn’t necessarily solve them.
    Crime in Baltimore is, simply put, out of control. With over 2,000 violent crimes per 100,000 people, in the year 2017 Baltimore was well within the most dangerous 1% of U.S. cities
    A 2018 video has surfaced of Pugh touring her miserable city and nearly gagging on her own words as she exclaimed, “You can smell the rats … Oh my God, you can smell the dead animals.”
    As a black American pundit, I am often asked whether I think Trump is a racist. I do not, but the answer I always give is that I don’t care. What I care about is the truth.
    Baltimore is steeped in squalor, and the black community there bears the brunt of its inept, corrupt political leadership. Trump hasn’t had time to cause that in his less than three years in office. But in less than three seconds, his tweet has shone a glaring spotlight onto it, and that bright light is causing the rats to scurry..”
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/the-trouble-with-trumps-tweets-about-baltimore-is-that-they-are-true

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  17. Russell Steele Avatar
    Russell Steele

    From Heartland’s Climate Conference:Rep. Tom McClintock Keynote Address
    Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA), ranking member of the Water, Oceans, and Wildlife Subcommittee of the House Natural Resources Committee, delivers an afternoon Keynote Address at The Heartland Institute’s Thirteenth International Conference on Climate Change on July 25, 2017.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    It’s a “white guy” …..for realz this time! Steve should be ecstatic!
    Mass Shooting at El Paso Wal Mart
    https://www.ktsm.com/news/breaking-possible-active-shooter-at-walmart-near-cielo-vista-mall/

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  19. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    But Fish! It’s the weapon used,, NOT the POS coward that pulled the trigger. I’m sure they will blame Trump for setting the turd off.

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  20. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Walt | 03 August 2019 at 03:14 PM
    Nahh……from the proglodyte perspective mass shootings are doubleplusungood when it’s a white guy!

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  21. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The guy a Grand Kealgle of the democrat KKK?

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  22. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Usually don’t just post a link, but IF this is real, which I am not saying it is, it is not good for your guy Trump. https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius-manifesto-el-paso-shooting/

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  23. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Not to mention that a whole hell of a lot of it should will pretty familiar to people who read this blog.

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  24. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    oops..meant to be….
    Not to mention that a whole hell of a lot of it will be pretty familiar to people who read this blog.

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  25. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Called that one!

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Ding, Ding, Ding…….What do I win Johnny!?!?
    Bodies not even cold yet and Frisch is out trying to score political points!
    You never disappoint Steve……

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Steve Frish’s link has a picture off the dude. Looks like Steve Frisch! Maybe your kid? Oh sorry, you are sterile.Maybe your nephew Steve?

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  28. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    fish “Bodies not even cold yet and Frisch is out trying to score political points!”
    Every time we have a shooting you guys say something like, “It’s too early to talk about gun control right now. We need to cool off. Too emotional still” Well, these are happening with such frequency, maybe it’s time YOU suggest just how much time we should take to “cool off” before “making points”.
    Trump-inspired white supremest shooters are becoming a dime a dozen, yet EVERY FUCKING TIME you have an excuse that “He’s not one of us.” Bullshit.

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  29. Steven Frisch Avatar
    Steven Frisch

    Yeah well if the shoe fits….and the shoe fits. I can’t help it if he is a right wing kook whose rhetoric fits a hell of a lot of what gets said here.
    His idea that we should create a confederacy of like minded and cultural homogeneous communities in order to protect our culture sounds kind of familiar.
    To say that the rhetoric of our President does not exacerbate these risks is nonsense.
    And no, people will not be waiting for the bodies to get cold anymore because the mass shootings are coming so frequently the bodies never have a chance to cool down.

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  30. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Let’s wait until the blood is mopped up until we get to pointing fingers. Last week it was the Gilroy Festival and some idiot (Rock Humper the woman hater) ran over here blaming some White Supremacist/Conservative/ Nazi material (and all of us here by extension), only to find out it was a book from 1897.
    Before that it was the Christchurch shooting and the 170 page manifesto had one sole reference to Trump, and not flattering terms. Heck, aren’t t we coming up on the 50th Anniversary of the Charlie Manson murders, inspired by the Beatles’ Helter Skelter to start a race war? And in between was blaming Sarah Palin for the target with bulls eye literature of vulnerable Dem districts for the reason Gabby got plugged in the mellon. Or did everybody blame Rush Limbaugh?
    At least Steve said “if”. At first glance, the shooter fits the profile. Young, male. Excluding Islamic Terrorism, all of the US mass shooters in history, save one, was not raised by his biological father. From Combine to Sandy Brooke to the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, all were on anti-depressants (head meds) and spent copious amounts of time playing video games of the violent nature. Time will tell.
    But, the above words are a waste of time. It’s all my fault. It’s all Trump’s fault. There, saved ya’ll the time. I do consider the hundreds of thousands surging our borders as an ‘invasion’, a term the shooter used. See, I am the cause. Heck, they had to use tear gas more than once just in the past 10 days as the illegals were attempting to storm the border ;again). Blame me, you are going to do it anyway. It is also a waste of time to once again say that no NRA member has ever been involved in such tragedies.
    It would be wise to let the bodies become room temperature first and let the investigation run it’s course on this sad day before running over here with an erection playing the blame game. That last statement was also a waste of time.
    Me thinks the shooter violated the law.

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  31. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    So Proggys asswipes, that gun free zone works SO well.
    Blame the gun. Not the coward.
    So.. Howed that mandatory gun turn in go “down under”?
    News FLASH Proggys!!! Criminals break laws!!

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  32. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    it’s not the shooter’s fault. I personally blame Beto for his rhetoric about removing all the fences.

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  33. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Get in front Steve! Have jiggles right next to ya’.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/area-51-military-warning-trnd/index.html
    “They’ve got a plan to raid Area 51 and “see them aliens.” But what will happen if they actually do it?
    Over one million people have signed up to a joke Facebook event, calling on users to meet at Area 51, the US Air Force base in Nevada that’s long been a source of alien conspiracy theories, in September.”

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  34. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Walt??? “So Proggys asswipes, that gun free zone works SO well.”
    Are you feeling well? We’re talking about El Paso Texas, your favorite free fire zone. El Paso, where people pack guns like car keys. Yep, walk tall in Texas.
    At least Bill has a starting point from which we can talk gun control. “When the blood’s wiped up.”

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  35. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Let’s not forget Spartacluz illegally walking across the border and escorting illegals into the US. Those kind of actions incite people. Heck, it’s against the law for me or any US citizen to enter the USA outside a port of entry. Yes, Beto and Spartacluz incited the shooter and drove him over the edge. That and Eric Swalwell’s divisive inflammatory talk about confiscating everybody’s guns.
    Time for the Socialists to tone down their rhetoric. Way pass time.

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Steven Frisch | 03 August 2019 at 04:31 PM
    Yeah well if the shoe fits….and the shoe fits. I can’t help it if he is a right wing kook whose rhetoric fits a hell of a lot of what gets said here.
    …..if you see something you really should say something!
    It’s just good sense……

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  37. Jig Wiggly Avatar
    Jig Wiggly

    Tozer
    Heck, it’s against the law for me or any US citizen to enter the USA outside a port of entry.
    Total BS. I do it several times a day, every day when paddling the boundary waters.

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  38. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Its about time! –
    The Navy has decided to drop all charges against Lt. Jacob Portier, the former platoon commander for Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, who was recently found not guilty of killing a wounded ISIS fighter in a high-profile case that exposed poor preparation and potentially unethical practices by Navy prosecutors in the case.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/navy-drops-case-against-seal-eddie-gallaghers-platoon-commander/
    😉

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  39. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Well Jigger, read the law. Just because you are breaking the law does not mean it is legal. Perhaps they mistake you for piñata.

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  40. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    What comrade deblasio wants everyone to forget was that it was HIS zero tolerance crackdown on cigarette tax avoidance was why they were arresting him for selling individual cigs. Comrade Bill D. owns it. –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nypd-union-rips-de-blasio-garner-cop-case
    😉

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  41. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    At our sea boundaries local traffic crossing back and forth over an invisible border line is not a concern. What they monitor is non-local traffic from a distance heading for our border that is picked up, tracked, and intercepted when it crosses into our waters.

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  42. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Closing the deal? –
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross will outline Washington’s plans to help rebuild Venezuela in the event President Nicolas Maduro leaves – at a conference in Lima next week, a senior U.S. administration official said on Friday.
    The official declined to give any details about U.S. President Donald Trump’s vague warning on Thursday of a blockade for Venezuela, but said that Maduro should view Trump’s comments as a sign he should take advantage of ongoing talks in Barbados to come up with an “exit plan,” the official said.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-outline-plans-help-venezuela-191950626.html
    😉

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  43. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Funny has anyone ever had Steve Frisch say anything bad about the lib shooters we have seen? Especially the one that hates Trump? Nope, so please get real Drisch, we know you enjoy your ilk gunning down innocent people. You defend them. As you have said, a good conservative is a dead conservative.

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  44. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Speaking of Venezuela –
    HOUSTON (Reuters) – The board of Citgo Petroleum [PDVSAC.UL] appointed by Venezuela’s congress chief was properly seated, a U.S. court ruled, dealing a blow to contested Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s efforts to retake control of the Texas-based refiner.
    Venezuelan congress chief Juan Guaido’s recognition by the Trump administration as the South American country’s legitimate leader makes his Citgo appointments valid, Delaware Chancery Court Vice Chancellor Kathaleen McCormick ruled on Friday.
    The ruling provides U.S. court backing for Guaido as the country’s official leader with power to name directors of Citgo and its parent, Petroleos de Venezuela [PDVSA.UL] (PDVSA).
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/u-court-rules-against-maduro-160144439.html
    😉

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  45. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Yup, gun free zone.
    https://crimeresearch.org/2019/08/yet-another-shooting-at-a-gun-free-zone-el-paso-shooting-at-cielo-vista-mall-is-apparently-in-a-place-that-banned-permitted-concealed-handguns/
    Nice try jiggy, just because all the dopers give the 🖕 to the law about weed, most law abiding gun owners respect the stupid law they despise.
    LIBS have a habit of picking and choosing laws they care to follow. You know, like illegal border crossing. And tossing out those here illegally.
    And of course growing WAY too much dope, and not buying from “approved” sellers.

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  46. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Here is some of the obvious why they stay shitholes –
    The city of Baltimore cannot account for the billions of dollars it receives in federal funding as crime, drugs, and rats run rampant in the city, according to a recent report on the city’s expenses.
    According to a 2018 audit of the city’s finances provided by USASpending.gov, Baltimore received $5.44 billion in federal grants, contracts, and other financial assistance.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/03/baltimore-cannot-account-millions-federal-funding/
    😉

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  47. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 03 August 2019 at 04:27 PM
    Trump-inspired white supremest shooters are becoming a dime a dozen, yet EVERY FUCKING TIME you have an excuse that “He’s not one of us.” Bullshit.
    Oh Jiggly…..I didn’t see your sniveling…..apologies!
    No, no….by all means …..talk all you want about gun control! I’m sure any suggestions you have will be appreciated by legislators.

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Good Doc @ 5:48 pm
    I was referring to Spatacluz walking across the border on land and escorting illegals in at a non point of legal entry. Sparacluz,, being a typical liberal like Jigger, only thinks he can walk on water. Also, I can’t see Spartacluz swimming across the Rio Grande or Niagara Falls to being them in. The camera crew would have difficulty and the Virtue Signaling visuals would be worse than his original Spartacluz moment at the Kavanaugh Witch-hunt.
    Be that as it may, it is not unfair nor partisan to say the Left historically has had a Big problem with LE and law enforcement in general. Big problem. It’s in their DNA. Laws are for other people to follow, not them….be they in or out of power.
    If no one is above the law, does that apply to illegal aliens? If not one is above the law and it is against the law for an employer to hire illegals, then why do illegals in CA need drivers licenses to drive to work???

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  49. fish Avatar
    fish

    The city of Baltimore cannot account for the billions of dollars it receives in federal funding as crime, drugs, and rats run rampant in the city, according to a recent report on the city’s expenses.
    According to a 2018 audit of the city’s finances provided by USASpending.gov, Baltimore received $5.44 billion in federal grants, contracts, and other financial assistance.
    Oh Don……if you could only see my shocked face!
    https://media.giphy.com/media/p092OM3vVCXII/giphy.gif

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  50. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt @ 6:10 pm
    Just another perfect reason to never leave your cave without your club. Too many crazies out there. That pound and a half is good extra weight to carry around.

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