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[Now that President Trump has revealed that he does incorporate reasoned decision processes and make prudent decisions about engaging US forces in response to abundant provocations by murderous dictatorships, I wonder if the Dems will allow their minions to hear any of this on the media.  One can niggle about whether he should have revealed how the latest all came about.  gjr]

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  1. Scott O Avatar

    This will get the left all excited –
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2019/06/24/george-soros-leads-chorus-of-billionaires-calling-for-a-new-wealth-tax/#2324ad681ce7
    “Billionaire George Soros and members of the Gund and Pritzker families are among a number of the world’s wealthiest business leaders to have signed a letter calling for a new U.S. wealth tax.”
    See??!! The rich WANT to pay more taxes!!!
    Of course they’d pay higher taxes right now on their own – because of MORALITY and all, but they just don’t know how. It’s too confusing or something.
    This is how the wealthy got wealthy – paying more money.
    Right.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    A place where our LIBS will feel right at home.
    Nevada County chapter coming soon.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/23/communist-party-usa-chicago-cpusa-convention

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Bernie says it would be inappropriate to deport illegals who have deportation orders from the court or whom have broken the law (again) by failing to appear at their hearings. Can you say “open borders?” Can’t separate families, can’t detain them, can’t make them enter at a point of entry, can’t, can’t, can’t. But we can help them and care for them and make sure they have enough toothpaste and free eye surgery!
    “There are ICE raids set to start Sunday morning. Estimates of some 2000 people or so who will be targeted, is this appropriate?” moderator Margaret Brennan asked Sanders.
    “No, it’s not,” Sanders responded. “It is absolutely not appropriate.”
    “Several moments later, Brennan again pressed Sanders: “But specifically on this point the two thousand that are supposed to be targeted haven’t shown up for a court date so essentially they’re- they’re not following the asylum process. The legal standards when they’re here. So should they be prosecuted, should they be deported?”
    “Sanders responded: “I don’t- I don’t like this deportation thing at all and I think Trump uses this as a beginning to do worse things to come.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/48771/bernie-not-appropriate-deport-illegal-aliens-not-ryan-saavedra
    Ok, I get it now. It’s not called open borders, it’s just no deportations and no Wall. Got it. Well, Bernie is not a Maoist. They were nationalists. No, Bernie is a Stalinist. They believed in crossing national boundaries. Export and import. The Soviet original Commie leaders were from Ukraine and Georgia, not Russia. Make sense now. ‘Splains the Honeymoon in the good ole USSR and maybe also explains why John Brennan was a Gus Hall supporter and voter. Think globally, act globally. That’s makes the US the Evil Empire. Got it.
    https://spectator.org/john-brennans-president-remembering-comrade-gus-hall/

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  4. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    The masters of the universe still think they can put their thumb on the scale –
    Undercover videos recorded by Project Veritas reveals that Google is determined to prevent the re-election of Donald Trump in 2020, and is altering its products with this aim in mind.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/24/project-veritas-google-exec-decries-trumps-election-how-do-we-prevent-it-from-happening-again/
    😉

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  5. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Today in the socialist dem clown car –
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-de-blasio-roasted
    Joe Biden tanking earlier than expected, ‘maybe he regrets now even deciding to run’
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lara-trump-joe-biden-gaffes
    https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/marchers-confront-pete-buttigieg-police-chief-with-frustrations-after-south/article_25ff0d24-c317-53ed-9999-4f51ac5bcf36.html
    Only 22% of Democrats registered to vote say they know a lot about the candidates’ positions, while 62% say they know a little. And only 35% say they’re paying close attention to the campaign, with almost two-thirds saying they’re paying some or no attention.
    https://www.apnews.com/705afbd6b5c247f8ba2f81d212e5808e
    Will the clown car make a stop at? –
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/23/communist-party-usa-chicago-cpusa-convention
    😉

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  6. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    If putins new frigate is so great why does it need 3 salvage escorts to make a port call?
    It’s the first ship in a new class of frigates intended to replace aging Soviet-era destroyers to project power far away from Russian shores.
    The ship is accompanied by the logistics vessel Elbrus, the medium sea tanker Kama and the rescue tug Nikolai Chiker, the Russian navy said.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9365741/russia-warns-cuban-missile-crisis-warship-havana/
    😉

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Daily Quotes and a meme.
    The Gipper: “Government has an important role in helping develop a country’s economic foundation. But the critical test is whether government is genuinely working to liberate individuals by creating incentives to work, save, invest, and succeed.” —Ronald Reagan
    For the record: “Its completely inappropriate, it’s reckless, it’s irresponsible, it’s misinformed, and it’s flat out wrong.” —Acting ICE Director Mark Morgan on AOC’s “concentration camps” remark
    Friendly fire: “When she analogized institutions used for mass slaughter to legitimate institutions of government, that’s a moral and political obscenity.” —Democrat strategist Doug Schoen
    Braying Jenny: “I think a lot of people are conflating what a death camp looks like or a specific removal of people. These people are coming to the border. We are removing them from the border. We are placing them in camps.” —Rep. Ilhan Omar
    Non Compos Mentis: “I would find [taking legal action against Trump] disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection. As you know, the women have very little protection there. It would just be disrespectful. Mine was three minutes. I’m a mature woman. I can handle it. I can keep going. You know my life has gone on. I’m a happy woman. But for the women down there and, actually, around the world, you know, in every culture this is going on no matter high in society or low in society, it just seems disrespectful that I would bring [charges].” —advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who alleges Trump raped her in the 1990s
    What could possibly go wrong? “We are gonna … create a Medicare for All health-care system which guarantees health care to every man, woman, and child and saves the average American substantial sums of money. … When I talk about health care being a human right, last time I heard that undocumented people are human beings as well.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders
    And last… “The problem is that college costs have skyrocketed versus inflation due to government interference in loans, and the solution people are proposing is to have the government pay off those loans, giving colleges even less incentive to cut costs. There would be no student debt crisis if colleges hadn’t been fueled into an inflation of costs. If you’re talking about loans and nothing about making colleges reduce costs, despite all you posturing about caring about students, you are a bad person and making things worse.” —Frank J. Fleming
    https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156476803170914/?type=3&source=48

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Mayor Pete got the Mayor Steinberg treatment by his black citizens on Sunday. A cop shot an attacking black man wielding a knife. Protestors galore. His chance for any black votes went up in smoke.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Dropout Derby Delinquents – OK Messrs Branson, fish,and Juvinall, get in there and insert your #24 and #25 Democratic hopefuls. Please submit your new lists in the comments under the updated Dropout Derby post. Thanks.

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  10. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Well of course the would want to hide their election meddling from the stupid voters –
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/24/google-censors-video-exposing-google/
    😉

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Well LIBBYS,,
    Google employee, Jen Gennai, stating that the company shouldn’t be broken up because only they can prevent the “next Trump situation.”
    And the likes of you complain about “big business” and “Wall St.”
    paying Repubs off? It hasn’t been that way for a LONG time.
    Now don’t forget who the whore of Wall St. really was.(Hillary)
    I’m sure you LIBS are quite happy with one LIB company interfering with the elections. Their on your side. Oh… And not Russians.
    Just Frisco Communists.

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  12. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer
  13. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish and Gregory, as Libertarians what is your view of the Constitutionality of this:
    ‘I don’t have to do it, legally’: Trump says he can invade Iran without Congress’ permission.
    “I like the idea of keeping Congress abreast, but I wouldn’t have to do that,” said Trump. In response to the fact that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said he must obtain congressional approval first, Trump said, “I disagree. I think most people seem to disagree.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/i-dont-have-to-do-it-legally-trump-says-he-can-invade-iran-without-congress-permission/

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  14. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    When did he say invade oh great pony tail of ignorance. Try getting up to date to the war powers act but we know that’s too much for you.
    😉

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Rawstory again Emery? Clickbait is getting slim for ya’.
    Iraq could set of a nuke, and you would find a reason to piss and moan about not going in and kicking ass.

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  16. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    KVMR is clearly so proud of their own po’ ol’ fakenewsmans lies. The actual quote is;
    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/24/trump-i-dont-need-congressional-approval-before-striking-iran/
    And he does not – 😉

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  17. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    “After 15 yrs and $2bil [in the 1990s] the Kansas City school district failed all of Missouri’s 11 academic performance standards and became the first big-city school district to lose its academic accreditation.” -Larry Elders, the Elder Statesman
    ——————-
    U.N.: Living in someone else’s country is a ‘Universal Human Right’
    and once they are here…..
    Article 25 adds “Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and his family, including food, clothing, housing,and medical care….”
    That does not sound like a plan to help developing countries. The UN is a joke.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Thanks for confirming my quote Don. So you have no problem with the president taking military action without the consent of Congress. Just want to make it clear that’s your position. Can you show me where in the constitution it justifies that.

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  19. Walt Avatar

    Emery can’t comprehend the President has the POWER to do so.
    You better call the White House Emery, and have Trump clear any action with you.
    Seems all that Sun cooked your gourd.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 932pm – Perhaps you can show us where the Constitution prevents the President from such a response.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Read it and bitch Emery. From the war powers act.
    “The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force”
    Trump can do all the limited engagements he likes.
    He can pound the shit out of them with drones and Cruse missiles.
    And no troops set foot on camel jockey soil.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The War Powers Act long name:
    “Joint resolution concerning the war powers of Congress and the President”
    Enacted by the 93 Congress of the United States of America.

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  23. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Your quote is an absolute lie, he never said invasion oh great pony tail of ignorance, the legally passed federal war powers act allows for tons of fun on those mutha mullahs. Military forces can be on temporary duty for up to 89 days. Then you have the war on terror resolution that stands to this day. Wipe your lip you are drooling a little there.
    Another shining example of the KVMR crack(ed) po’ ol’ fakenewsmans fake news. I wonder if KVMR will play this –
    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/06/24/roseanne-barr-and-andrew-dice-clay-announce-mr-and-mrs-america-comedy-tour/
    😉

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Another historic day. Scratch that one off the ‘to do’ the list.
    “In an executive order issued Monday, Trump ordered the Department of Health and Human Services and other federal agencies to develop rules that will require hospitals and other health care providers to disclose prices to show what both the insurer and the patient will pay for a service.
    “The president has a clear vision for American health care,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. “Today, the president is delivering on that historic promise,” adding that this will “go down as one of the most significant steps in the long history of American health care reform.”
    “The new rules would also force health care providers and insurers to tell patients exactly what their out-of-pocket costs would be before any service is provided.
    “Everyday American patients are being taken advantage of by a system that hides critical information from them that they need to make decisions for them and their families,” Azar said. He added that knowing the cost of service beforehand means Americans would be able to comparison shop — just like they might when getting their cars fixed.
    “Azar also said his agency and others would seek to end “surprise billing,” in which patients find out weeks or months later that their insurance companies won’t cover a provided service.”
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/48783/trump-orders-health-care-providers-reveal-prices-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
    Well, that is more paperwork I do like. They charged my Uncle for a case of tampons!

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  25. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Shocking, absolutely shocking. Report scorched the President.
    The PBS Frontline special entitled “Lost In Detention” represents a scathing indictment of the administration’s immigration policy. The yearlong investigation did an extensive and deep dive into the U.S. immigration enforcement system and stories of hidden abuse in detention centers.
    “The nearly hourlong report makes for harrowing viewers: Women who have been detained complaining about being harassed by guards for sexual favors, sexually assaulted by guards, and guards threatening to kill the women they are harassing if they talk. A single mom with two daughters who overstayed a visa gets deported back to Mexico just because she changed lanes without signaling. Cops describe patrolling neighborhoods with significant number of illegal immigrants, where people instinctively run from the sight of a police car. A mother of five American-born children being deported over a speeding ticket.
    “The report describes, “a vast network of 250 detention centers, from county jails to large centers run by private prison companies, where immigrants facing deportation are held until they can be removed from the country. In the past decade, three million immigrants have been detained in the system.” The report shows white-domed tents surrounded by barbed wire, and are described as overcrowded warehouses of people. Those who have been through the detention centers describe beatings, racial slurs, official coverups, and threats to deport anyone who complains. The problem is described as more than a few “bad apples,” but more of “barrels of bad apples.”
    “One of the president’s immigration advisors callously declares, “At the end of the day, when you have a community of 10 million, 11 million people living and working in the United States illegally, some of these things are going to happen. Even if the law is executed with perfection, there will be parents separated from their children. They don’t have to like it, but it is a result of having a broken system of laws.”
    More from this shocking report. It’s sickening.
    “Wait, wait, I’m sorry, this Frontline special is from October 2011, and describes the immigration policies of the Obama administration. Clearly, these policies do not warrant a heated national conversation, are not a national scandal, outrage, or embarrassment, and do not deserve furious denunciation all across the political spectrum. If they did, we would have heard all of this eight years ago. While the allegations of abuse are repulsive, they simply didn’t seem to interest the media or the public on a large scale back in 2011.
    “And regarding the way illegal immigrants are being hunted, arrested, and deported, clearly the president knew what he was doing and this was simply tough enforcement of the immigration laws on the books. If it wasn’t, surely all of the current Democratic presidential contenders who are furious about the current policies would have noticed. I mean, Joe Biden was vice president when all of this was going on.”
    https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEApP-tYLjodbbukA2IvZEzkqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowh4uHCzDap4UDMMDclgY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

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  26. Don Bessee Avatar
    Don Bessee

    Now don’t go messing up team lefties approved narratives with pesky FACTS @1059!!
    😉

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Something for the true believers of AGW to wake up to.
    Here is a good, swift kick to the pea sized testis.
    https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Colorado-s-snowpack-is-40-times-normal-after-rare-14036967.php
    “On summer’s opening day, up to 20 inches of snow buried the high terrain of the Colorado Rockies, boosting the state’s snowpack to extraordinary levels for the time of year.
    The solstice flakes marked a continuation of a snowy stretch that began in January and February and lingered through spring. Even before the solstice snow, The Denver Post wrote, the state’s snowpack was “in virtually every numerical sense . . . off the charts.” At the time, the snowpack was 751 percent above normal.
    Kinda the opisate of what you doom and gloomers preach.
    Oh… And the nice cool weather WE are going to have in the coming days.
    We enjoy the cricket festival for your side of the ditch when
    news like this hits.

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  28. Paul Emery Avatar

    Obviously no Libertarians on this blog. Not a peep from Gregory or fish.

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  29. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    You obviously have no respect for this:
    Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Did Trump start a war?

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 648am – is it not obvious that you may not know what is going on in the Mideast?

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  32. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    That’s not my question George. If we attack Iran that is an act of war. How is that justified when the Constitution is so specific. Perhaps it’s not important but you cite the Constitution in many of your discussions-especially the Second Amendment but this seems unimportant to you. Can you explain? Perhaps there should be a Constitutional Amendment. What do you think?

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  33. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @ 7:00 am Has a War been declared? Gee, how could I missed that one?
    ———————
    Random quotes…..picked at random.
    “In 2017, the CBO … stated that the government-managed student-loan program would garner a respectable $114 billion in revenue over the ensuing 10 years. Then, in 2018, that revenue estimate nosedived to just $8.7 billion. … Now, the CBO is calculating a $31 billion deficit over the next 10 years. A Bloomberg Government report parsed this development as ‘a shift from past CBO forecasts that the government would profit from the program.’ That’s not merely a shift. That’s a deviation of epic proportions.”
    “The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly ‘anybody but Bernie.’”—Comrade Bernie (I-Vermont)
    “Sanders, Warren Vie for ‘King of the Free-Stuff Mountain’
    “Online Knitting Community Bans Trump Supporters, Accuses Them Of Backing ‘White Supremacy’
    “FLASHBACK: ABC’s ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015”
    Donald Trump Jr.: ‘Mexico Doing More To Protect America Than Democrats’
    Ocasio-Cortez Lies About Concentration Camp Remarks, Blames GOP For Her Words
    Biden promises to raise your taxes by an average of $1,400 on ‘Day One.’
    GAVIN NEWSOM: REPUBLICANS WILL BE 3RD PARTY IN 10-15 YEARS BECAUSE ‘MASCULINITY’
    Yikes! WTF???
    “I think most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.” —-Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll, an Elle magazine advice columnist.
    “In terms of interior enforcement … what’s the point?” —Nancy Pelosi on Trump’s deportation raids.
    Last but not least;
    “If you want to run a campaign based on reparations and concentration camps then it’s going to be very hard to win the election.” —HBO’s Bill Maher
    And a visual aide
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156695848363878&set=a.10154039903428878&type=3&theater&ifg=1

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  34. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    The War Powers act gives the President, umm, limited War Powers. It hasn’t been found unconstitutional. It was enacted over Nixon’s veto.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
    Then there were the actions by other Islamic entities that bedeviled Washington and Jefferson both, causing the US Navy to be founded.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars
    “From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli”. Sing it, Paul. The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact.
    Ships attacked in international waters, an aircraft blown out of the sky… what should be done, Paul?
    Perhaps the nuclear football that goes where the President goes should have a couple of clones that goe with the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader so that all three could come to a decision in a timely fashion?

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Give it a rest Emery. You were shown the facts. Deal with it.
    No amount of Emeryism is going to justify the whine.
    So Emery, If Iran declares war on us,(which they pretty much have)
    explain away why Trump can’t make Iran a footnote in history.
    LIBS are cowardly traitors, who have no intention of defending this nation or living up to protecting allies, You and yours would prefer world anarchy.

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  36. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    So Walt you believe the Constitution is obsolete in this matter. Why not a Constitutional Amendment ?

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  37. Walt Avatar

    Back at ya’ Emery, tell us why MAD “Max” should not be charged with treason.”giving aid and comfort to the enemy”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/24/crenshaw-maxine-waters-hate-for-trump-runs-so-deep-she-is-willing-to-take-irans-side/

    Maxine Waters
    @RepMaxineWaters
    Trump, you get no credit for so-called stopping the strike against Iran. Why was the unmanned drone in Iran’s airspace? Why the surveillance? Don’t provoke and then pretend innocence.

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  38. fishpunch@punchfish.com Avatar
    fishpunch@punchfish.com

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 June 2019 at 06:47 AM
    Obviously no Libertarians on this blog. Not a peep from Gregory or fish.

    What am I supposed to be responding to Punch-E?

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  39. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    “Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.”. Exactly Paul.
    If the President fails to get a declaration of war, then Congress can impeach him. That’s the remedy and the only remedy. I don’t think that is going to happen, as our public generally has no idea what we are talking about due to the dumbing down of our population through liberal progressive policies and also due to the fact that we have been involved in multiple military exercises since WWII with no declaration.

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  40. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    @8:28 am
    “What am I supposed to be responding to Punch-E”
    Well, Punchy left the building to go fiddling Sunday morn. He promised he will get back to a poster he identified as @10:48am at the time. Of course, that what was he said, but pay that no nevermind. He would not dare to utter another “lie”, would he? His topic he wanted answers to was concerning Health Care. So, I guess you are supposed to respond to Health Care.
    He’s all over the map. He is pissed that Obama launched all those drones and now he fears, fears I say, that Trump will go to war with Iran without Congressional approval. And now he wants a Constitutional Amendment. Takes 3/4 of the State Legislatures and 2/3 of the Congress. I say write the State Legislatures and get the ball rolling. If CA with its super majority one party Deep Blue State cannot get off their arses, then all is lost and we are stuck with current Federal Law. Now, back to health care.
    The non-birthers are going nuts lately.

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  41. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, is there a difference in your mind between an act of war and war?
    BTW the one President to totally ignore the War Powers act was Bill Clinton, who waged war in Serbia (then the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia), dropping bombs from Belgrade to Kosovo, killing many hundreds of Serb civilians, without a declaration of war, in a UN action undertaken without a vote of the Security Council.
    This was ostensibly done to stop Serbs from ethnically cleansing Kosovo of ethnic Albanians (think Ottoman Empire) from Kosovo. When the Serbs stopped resisting, blue helmeted UN forces stood by while Albanian Kosovars ethnic cleansed Kosovo of Serbs. Albanians had been streaming across the border into historic Serbian territory to take it over all along.
    Much later, we admitted to using depleted uranium ammunition against Serbs in Kosovo. Also in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    https://mondediplo.com/2002/03/03uranium
    Try to imagine the UN bombing Texas in order to stop Texans from stopping Mexicans from streaming over the border to retake the Alamo, and then making a new state of South Texas to make it safe for the South Texans.
    Hey, but we proved to the Saudis we were willing to bomb the crap out of Christians to make the world safer for Islam. The oil flowed.

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Raising a Constitutional question about Presidential powers. Do you believe this should apply to Trump in when he claims he doesn’t need Congressional approval to invade Iran
    Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 June 2019 at 08:58 PM
    Fish and Gregory, as Libertarians what is your view of the Constitutionality of this:
    ‘I don’t have to do it, legally’: Trump says he can invade Iran without Congress’ permission.

    Ahh…there it is!
    Well Punch…..we seem to be in a “Post Constitutional” era as half the crap Obama did and wanted to do would have certainly been constitutionally suspect just 20 years ago. Today you have the Speaker of the House telling illegals under deportation orders that they should just ignore them (this after due process has been followed). Would it be constitutional…..probably not. Not smart either as we are really over extended militarily. I wouldn’t worry…..I don’t think the president is going to pursue this course of action.
    Now as a libertarian I am mightily encouraged that representatives of the government are telling us to just not follow laws we don’t like. There are a couple of non California compliant handguns that I think I’ll have friend purchase in Nevada, wait for a couple of months, and then bring to me after they bust the first couple of morons trying to bring in ammunition the day after July 1st.
    Thanks Nancy….I think I can get on board with the “pick and choose” the laws we like plan!

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  44. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Fish
    What does that have to do with my 8:54?

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