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[Rich Ulery was a longtime resident of Nevada County.  As a professional realtor Rich found time to give generously to the community through various leadership positions he held in civic organizations.  He also served as the chairman of the NC Republican Central Committee.  Rich and his bride are among the great exodus from California, having pulled up stakes and moving to Arizona last year.  I post Rich’s email as received by permission.  gjr]

Hi George,

I read that Nevada County supervisors just approved the 2019-20 budget of $258 million. While I understand the difficulty of comparing two different county budgets in two different states, I do find it interesting that Pima County, Arizona is wrestling with the approval of its $1.4 billion budget. Pima County has slightly more than 10 times the population of Nevada County, meaning that it costs Nevada County taxpayers almost 2X what it costs Pima County taxpayers to operate the county government. 

Certainly, the impact of Federal and State mandates and differing demographics will pollute this comparison. There are also cost of living considerations, although I will assure you that Nevada County COL is not double Pima County — not even close. I will also assure you that Pima County has negligible unfunded pension liabilities. I suspect Nevada County is still hovering close to $200 million.

I'm not sure what conclusions, if any, to draw from this, but I found it at least intriguing.

Rich Ulery

 

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58 responses to “Rich Ulery – CA escapee writes”

  1. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Leaving? I am waiting for the glorious day when the State of Jefferson is formed. First thing (or maybe third) thing the new State of Jefferson will do is to wall off the Great State of California. No worries, we be inclusive. You will be grandfathered in. Figured Dougski and Punchy will be worm food by then, but patience is a virtue.
    There is one primary reason I am staying put for awhile. That’s for me to know and you to find out. Besides, with the new gas hike kicking in July 1, I may be able to get too far down that long lonely highway.
    I looked at Ecuador, Its changing fast and not for the better. Then I checked out Nicaragua and they were welcoming ex-pats. Cool place. Terrain just like Costa Rica, except without the touristy national eco parks, beaches, pick pockets, and a new misogynistic attitude. Costa Rica changed. Nicaragua had everything Costa Rica has, without the crowds.
    Nicaragua would have been a place to live like a King. Just get used to daily power outages and don’t cross over the hump if driving to the east side (Caribbean) at night. And get used to the gas station (and you) waiting for a few days for the delivery truck. But, Nicaragua has suddenly become not quite so “open”. Gov’t is tightening up on freedom again. And the drug routes. Best just wait for that pot of gold, aka, The Great State of Jefferson. Raise Shasta Dam! We have water to sell, more than we would ever need.

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  2. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Toes… Jefferson won’t happen until California closes shop. No way could a state form out of California until the pension debt gets wiped clean.

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  3. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    6:16 pm Oh course. But, it’s just as good as any reason to tell Rock to shove it, none of his bees wax, pull my finger. I never subscribed to the ‘California: Love it or Leave it.’ mentality. Sounds so authoritarian and an unreasonable demand of anyone. But, I spy just now you had the real answer. It’s so exciting and devilishly delicious.

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  4. L Avatar
    L

    One would not know from AVMan’s above link that Tucson (home of the UofA) is the most liberal city in AZ, as his linked article unintentionally shows. Most of Pima County (at 6,000 square miles, it’s larger than Connecticut) is decidedly rural- half is an Indian Res, most is grazing country. Roads are fine; all problems seem to be urban from our perspective, 40 mi. N of Mexico.

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  5. L Avatar
    L

    As long ago as 1973, I built a kitchen for a large restaurant on Tanque Verde just east of the then-city limits, a site chose for both its beauty and for the fact that it was outside the city limit of AZ’s worst leftist infection. Today, it’s almost in the geographic center of the metro area.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Kinda speaks for itself when the most talked thing about California the National Media reports on is poop and poop apps.
    https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156465752285914/?type=3&source=54&ref=page_internal
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2237926396245096&set=gm.697522394036207&type=3&theater
    Well, they are literally dying on our streets. But no worries. Come July 1st, we will have the highest gas taxes in the nation, surpassing Hawaii. We’re number one!
    Hmmm. Wonder if any of their shoes will fit. They won’t be needing them where they are going.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2019-04-23/homeless-dying-in-record-numbers-on-the-streets-of-los-angeles?src=usn_fb&utm_source=usn_fb&fbclid=IwAR1c2qfj1qnHoWSPMno0CzEeNJg8Q0OUyAPlABclTEwkh_8Mxt89ohwYOp4
    To put it all in perspective, there are more homeless in CA than the population of Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s city of South Bend. And the poverty rate of Mayor Pete’s city is 2-3 times the National average.
    Moral of the story: don’t move to any Dem controlled city or state. Not even Newark, NJ.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Not California…..just change the name. Escapees.
    “In fact, more than 46 percent of New Yorkers of all ages moving out of the state are in the bracket earning above $150,000.”
    In the Big Apple, the tax burden on high earners is onerous. The local government relies “solely on the top 10 percent for over 70 percent of taxes, with the top 1 percent paying more than the bottom 90 percent combined. Any efforts to assist the most needy individuals are heavily dependent on the city keeping its reputation as a driver of the national economy. The accelerating outflow of middle class and upper class residents will no doubt tarnish that. As steep declines in revenue hit, spending cuts will burden the urban poor rather than the bureaucrats.
    “The current spending levels are likely unsustainable for the Big Apple in the long term. The New York City Council passed a $93 billion budget, which includes spending hikes of 6 percent for salaries, 9 percent for other employee benefits, 9 percent for debt service, 11 percent for health insurance, 12 percent for public assistance funding, and more. This local budget also set aside a new line item for taxpayer funded abortions, an army of new social workers, and even a package for the Green New Deal.
    “If New York continues to lose taxpayers in droves, the city will not be able to fund its current initiatives, let alone new spending increases. As the exodus further dwindles local revenue, public programs will eventually require massive cuts. Meanwhile, increased pension spending will eat up any slack the city has left. The pension plans are already underfunded to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. Retirement spending comprises nearly a quarter of the annual budget and will only continue growing.
    “Whenever push came to shove in the past, cities like Chicago and Detroit prioritized bureaucratic spending and honoring pensions over funding public programs and infrastructure. If New York takes a similar route, the people most dependent on campaign promises will be left behind.”
    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/449946-as-the-wealthy-flee-new-york-poorest-will-be-most-affected
    Buck Sexton moved to NY to enhance his career. As he walked the streets of the city, overtime he slowly realized that NY was becoming more like LA. Not SF, more like LA. He noticed also that Wall St was still there, but many of the big boys had moved out…a shadow of its former self. Not the same as it once was. He is quite happy to have moved on and out of NY. Priorities. Q of L issues. He will be fine in his new digs.

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